Shogun Spa @ Chinatown (No Ads Allowed)

[gaygaysin]

dun blame him. most of the youngster nowadays will call any1 age >30 as uncle. i accepted the fact liao...

[Guest Lao Uncle]

dun blame him. most of the youngster nowadays will call any1 age >30 as uncle. i accepted the fact liao...

I thought 50 to 60 yrs old are uncles, balding with liverspots. Beyond that, Kongs, with white pubic hair

Aiyoh, then go to the hip hip expensive sauna across the street lah.

Shogun is a place for mature adults but I do find youngster in their 20s there and cruisng me this lao uncle.

I say 'choy, i m old enough to be ur father' and quickly 'siam'. Dun know what I am attracting a lot of Poly students in other venues, too. It's very disturbing lah :oops:

I still prefer ppl between 35 and 55, more charming and comfortable.

[Guest Guest]

is shogun a place we can go just to relax or have a chat? instead of the usual having fun and stuff...

Yes, if you like mature men between 35 to 55 yrs old. I had met a lot of nice ppl - towkay, snr exec,

married men, etc there and what I enjoyed most was the emotional connection. We had fun laughing and comparing notes. I would play matchmaker for some of friends who were to shy to go for the ones the liked. I would be most happy if they could click and enjoy themselves. I would also make use of the 1 hr time-out to go out with friends to the nearest hawker centre - Chinatown or Maxwell.

The movies shown are pretty new and interesting. I saw parts from the movie 'The Switch' starring Jennifer Aniston & Jason Bateman last evening. Just lie around and relax or going into the steam room(very cruisy) or just sit and people-watch in the japanese garden upstair.

[Guest guest]

is shogun a place we can go just to relax or have a chat? instead of the usual having fun and stuff...

I love to go to sauna. But not every time I go there, I score. Not score because of choice. I just to go dude in the sauna. Walk around naked. Look at other naked guys. I love to sit at the bench at the first level at the Jap garden, watching naked guys walking pass me. checked out their butt.

Therefore, it is possible to just go there to relax yourself, catch some free show and show yourself a bit.

[Guest guest]

U must be seeing ghost, 80 uncles. I arrived at 4.30pm and left at 7.30pm. There were a couple of muscular guys - 1 with glasses but face so-so, the other guy is abt 1.8 m tall, better face. The biggest one was sitting on the couch outside the darkroom. The rest were more not as big but with toned body. One is abt 1.86 m tall, the other a jap-like man with nice face.

There were also 3 tanned looking guy with moustache/goatee but more on the stocky side. They were coming in and out of the steam room to hit the shower. They are a bit beng but still not bad. If you follow the earlier threads, there were enquiry from shorter guy. I also noticed abt 5 to 6 short guys there including one staff from 17 sauna. One of them was a cute Pinoy-looking guy with big eyes. He was cruising outside the only room with yellow light. Not many chubs though.

Compared to last Sunday (also bcoz of the event), there were lesser people today. This happened also towards the end of last month. The crowd was pretty good in the 2nd and 3rd wknd of March.

I typed mostly uncles. But not too sure why 80 came. If indeed 80, then you are right, I must be seeing ghost.

I saw that specky muscular guy too. Too bad the face not my type. but quite hung. saw that while he was showering at the first level.

[Guest guest]

U must be seeing ghost, 80 uncles. I arrived at 4.30pm and left at 7.30pm. There were a couple of muscular guys - 1 with glasses but face so-so, the other guy is abt 1.8 m tall, better face. The biggest one was sitting on the couch outside the darkroom. The rest were more not as big but with toned body. One is abt 1.86 m tall, the other a jap-like man with nice face.

There were also 3 tanned looking guy with moustache/goatee but more on the stocky side. They were coming in and out of the steam room to hit the shower. They are a bit beng but still not bad. If you follow the earlier threads, there were enquiry from shorter guy. I also noticed abt 5 to 6 short guys there including one staff from 17 sauna. One of them was a cute Pinoy-looking guy with big eyes. He was cruising outside the only room with yellow light. Not many chubs though.

Compared to last Sunday (also bcoz of the event), there were lesser people today. This happened also towards the end of last month. The crowd was pretty good in the 2nd and 3rd wknd of March.

I typed : Mostly uncles, not 80. Not sure how 80 came out.

I saw that specky muscular guy too. too bad his look is not my type. But he quite hung. Saw him while he was showering in the first level open shower.

After not able to find anything to my taste in the first level, i was preparing to leave. but went to the sauna to look for a final chance. There i meet one stocky guy with a great butt. Short, thin mature hair. Face - my type. Wanted to have some fun with him in the sauna, but was too crowded. And it was getting very hot for me. So gave up. took a final shower. As I was preparing to leave, saw that stocky guy finishing his sauna and got out from the shower area. We went to the dark maze, got a room and have a quick fun.

[Guest Guest]

I typed : Mostly uncles, not 80. Not sure how 80 came out.

I saw that specky muscular guy too. too bad his look is not my type. But he quite hung. Saw him while he was showering in the first level open shower.

After not able to find anything to my taste in the first level, i was preparing to leave. but went to the sauna to look for a final chance. There i meet one stocky guy with a great butt. Short, thin mature hair. Face - my type. Wanted to have some fun with him in the sauna, but was too crowded. And it was getting very hot for me. So gave up. took a final shower. As I was preparing to leave, saw that stocky guy finishing his sauna and got out from the shower area. We went to the dark maze, got a room and have a quick fun.

The specky guy's face CMI, I agree. But he's a super top as told by my friends. The other specky face is better but body not as muscular.

I wish the sauna and wet area is a bit bigger. I also meet cut guys there. The sauna is too crowded.

Sometimes, I want to go in and when I see people bear the door, I just walk away.

Is the stocky guy with a G-men cut but quite cute? BTW, what is your 'face type'?

[Guest Guest]

I love to go to sauna. But not every time I go there, I score. Not score because of choice. I just to go dude in the sauna. Walk around naked. Look at other naked guys. I love to sit at the bench at the first level at the Jap garden, watching naked guys walking pass me. checked out their butt.

Therefore, it is possible to just go there to relax yourself, catch some free show and show yourself a bit.

I luv the Japanese Garden. It's a good place to see guys 'in the light', check them out b4 we target them. But that place is also very cruisy. I scored some of my best guys just standing there or pretend to wait for the shower, looking at the fishes, using the sink, etc. Very easy to have eye contact there and hit the bullseye!

But Shogun's been lucky for me, I scored at least once on each visit. I hope there will be visitor from Asia in th following wks coz I read some recent good reviews posted by others on Utopia-Asia website.

[Guest peace]

Is it safe to sleep at Shogun overnight?

Will you get molest?

[Guest Guest]

Is it safe to sleep at Shogun overnight?

Will you get molest?

Must lock the room. Dun Sleep in the open?

My friend woke up with 'super human glue' all over him.

[abang]

Utterly rubbish on the doubts of staying overnight there.

Yes sex permeates every corner but I am very sure that we are all understanding folks who will not go molesting any and every one.

Patrons there are very restrained... never had I encountered someone with bad manners...

[Guest guest]

Utterly rubbish on the doubts of staying overnight there.

Yes sex permeates every corner but I am very sure that we are all understanding folks who will not go molesting any and every one.

Patrons there are very restrained... never had I encountered someone with bad manners...

u never encountered doesn't mean other ppl also never kana. Although in the dark but "they" also know how to choose the good one.... hahaha no offence.

[mgb2144]

Am thinking of going Shogun this Friday evening for the chub and chaser night. How's the crowd on Friday nite? Lots of chasers? The last time I went there, it was full of chubs and seniors..... Z

[Guest Exec Chaser]

I prefer mature executives 30s to 50s, can anyone advise which weekday evening is best for me? Thanks.

[Guest chuBBBBy]

i plan to go this Friday after my evening class...will any fit chaser be there after 10pm?

[Guest Guest]

Utterly rubbish on the doubts of staying overnight there.

Yes sex permeates every corner but I am very sure that we are all understanding folks who will not go molesting any and every one.

Patrons there are very restrained... never had I encountered someone with bad manners...

The ex-staff, the chubby cute malay guy kenna.

[Guest Guest]

I prefer mature executives 30s to 50s, can anyone advise which weekday evening is best for me? Thanks.

Try Wed Nite, or Thurs (G-men) nite. Fri nite a lot of chubs.

[Guest paui]

Is it safe to sleep at Shogun overnight?

Will you get molest?

Take it as a compliment is you are molested.

If you are damn teruk, no one will even bother you.

[Guest Guest]

I thought 50 to 60 yrs old are uncles, balding with liverspots. Beyond that, Kongs, with white pubic hair

Aiyoh, then go to the hip hip expensive sauna across the street lah.

Shogun is a place for mature adults but I do find youngster in their 20s there and cruisng me this lao uncle.

I say 'choy, i m old enough to be ur father' and quickly 'siam'. Dun know what I am attracting a lot of Poly students in other venues, too. It's very disturbing lah :oops:

I still prefer ppl between 35 and 55, more charming and comfortable.

ah pek and ah pek even gross

[Guest Guest]

Is it safe to sleep at Shogun overnight?

Will you get molest?

It is unspoken and understood by ALL that those who sleep at the upper floor TV hall are openly on display to be molested unless he "wakes up" and rejects the molester; otherwise keep on molesting as you like

The shy ones will sleep in the rooms with the doors locked and will be left alone.

The really daring ones will sleep in the darkroom and these will be free for all.

Last weekday night I missed the MRT home, Why can't the MRT run late like those in HK? Instead of paying 20+ dollars for the taxi home, I decided to sleep in Shogun again because I was a bit drunk. Got in nearly 1am and surprisingly, all the rooms were taken.

Knn no choice but to sleep at the TV room. Molest then molest loh boh pian. Decided to get the condoms on standby just in case when I heard 3 ah beng types saying hello to each other and saying, "tonight want to come here and play is it" and sniggering.

Walau die ah, understood what they meant by play, I went hunting for a room. Still no room. I thought the TV was very loud so I can wait and try to find later and I won't fall asleep. But I did

As expected I got woken up when I noticed someone on top of me and smelling my breathe and saying, "ho say liao, this one very drunk can play."

Next thing I knew my legs were raised and one of them saying " buat gu yu" and felt the coldness of ky on my ass.

Next thing I knew, I sat up and pushed them away. Luckily they just laughed and left me alone. Seems like they respected the rules of this game.

My blanket was thrown to one side and I was stark naked. My after drinking headache already starting to make me very giddy. I looked around and the bright EXIT light showed only 1 other guy sleeping on the other end. I wanted to throw up but managed to hold it. I simply gave up trying to get up because my head was spinning. I just knocked out again without putting on my blanket. I was semi conscious yet felt so weak.

I felt I will surely fall asleep again and this time there was no stopping them. No choice, I took out the 5 condoms and put them on my tummy. At least they must do it safe.

As expected, they came back again. "hahaha this type sure mabuk one we only need to wait awhile. waaah somemore got put so many condoms for us to use. Eh brothers, comfirm tonight can play until siao liao."

"Wait lah you sex wolf. We carry him to your big room then we all can play him until siao."

Despite my big size, they managed to carry me to that big room. Then I felt the light turned on"got light can see more fun mah hehehe"

"let me see ha...waah brother you see, this one very wet one leh, just now you got see people makan him already or not?"

"Aiyah just now I put ky one lah maybe that ah lao makan him already, his hole so loose one, ah huat also not so loose one"

"Oi don't anyhow say me leh. He bu one I have no business liao. Help you to lock room doors also never thank you me."

Before I even knew it, my legs were raised and one cock came inside me.

"you can watch free tiger show loh, he not bad what. you saw him one and tell us to look see one. but you say he very manly also so salah leh, somemore want us to help you....see lah you got no luck mean we lucky lah"

"you want ask ah leng to f you lah, he not bad also"

"tolong lah, you 2 cannot be fight to me one...only this type goondu one you all can bully only"

"don't want suat loh, this one comfirm our vage got not waste money one hehehe song ah"

"oi just now you say got give him smell that mee yau, how cum he still can wake up one...make us all so surprised"

"how I know woh....maybe this one cheaper one...good one very expensive leh....see this time got work leh ...."

"next time better buy good one lah, just now see him want to vomit like that...if he vomit...then become no use"

"but they say this one not so strong he can feel and become very hiao so I must try mah"

"wey see see he moving his body already hehehe shiok right"

"eh ah leng, you want try 2 arrow one bird with me or not"

"you siao ah, he not wake cannot make one, wey don't pretend pretend, now my turn already"

Out one and a skinny one took over. "Wey don't only watch lah help me push his legs one side I want to see my cock in out in out his hole better."

"Aiyah why so kin chiong, we can play him whole night until his hole song song"

"eh you think he know or not we fxxking him? his eyes like got open a bit"

"how I know leh...if he know he sure kick us like last time..."

"maybe we tell him later then we can book him next time...he comfirm is bu one, see you touch his nini he got moaning somemore...I like him very much leh"

"you sex wolf siao ah, wait he beat you then you know...if he want just now already we play already no need wait and wait"

" ya loh just now he so fierce I thought he so manly....now ah...aiyoh give me also don't want"

"brother don't talk so much, got hole we share fxxk...this one very tokkong...see his hole already my saliva dropping...."

"ya lah, you hole man I nini man... I like his nini so big so spring....he is bu one really no fight...his kang must be very tokkong also fxxk until his hole so big"

"how you know woh...maybe he slut also you don't know"

"ya lah, slut is like you go sleep inside darkroom, sime lanjiao also can do one... this so goondu, we tie room lock he also don't check got string there...lucky tonight almost full one"

"wey his eyes like looking at you.... wait he call you lao kong haha"

"let him look loh, you me already his real lao kong what...see him put condom for us if not I really shoot my seeds inside him and make him pregnant comfirm my wife hehehe"

"waaaahhhh I want to see my man juice come out his hole...take pictures and comfirm to him"

"you 2 sex wolf siao is it? people big big man let you fxxk you still no satisfy...you think this is japanese pxxn ah...he look very educated one leh...sekali he hoot you back then you die"

"ya lah if he kang one you also do like us..."

"don't lah...I very scared you know...he put condom comfirm he don't want us to shoot juice inside him...he already let us fxxk him comfirm mah.."

"like that ah...but you see him like very enjoy leh..."

"enjoy your head ah....help me turn him over I use my backside fxxking kungfu he lagi enjoy" ..............................................

Well I was in a daze, still can see vague shadows but hear everything in hokkien. Needless to say I was played the whole night till they left and I slept till 10am when someone came to the room to wake me that they want to clean the room. I was soaked in man juices.

My reason for posting is to find out what drug did they use? Does anyone know? Other than being sore for the whole week, I was not angry because they didn't seed me when I checked my sloppy hole. At least they respected my wish and well, sex is no big deal to me even if it's not truely by consent but I did consent in a way. Any lawyer will tell you that.

[Guest Guest]

Take it as a compliment is you are molested.

If you are damn teruk, no one will even bother you.

It's like saying those people who got rape should take it as a compliment.

Just as Mike Tyson raped Desiree Washington(beauty pageant contestant).

I dun to be molested to know my worth.

[Guest Guest]

It is unspoken and understood by ALL that those who sleep at the upper floor TV hall are openly on display to be molested unless he "wakes up" and rejects the molester; otherwise keep on molesting as you like

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My reason for posting is to find out what drug did they use? Does anyone know? Other than being sore for the whole week, I was not angry because they didn't seed me when I checked my sloppy hole. At least they respected my wish and well, sex is no big deal to me even if it's not truely by consent but I did consent in a way. Any lawyer will tell you that.

They do that to u in 24kaikan Japan butthe Japs will go away if you kick your blanket to show them u r not inteested.

When did this happen? Can you recognize them? What is the chemical they used to drug u? I hope these asshole will be lock up in jail. Shogun Mgt , pls take note of these people.

[gummibear]

They do that to u in 24kaikan Japan butthe Japs will go away if you kick your blanket to show them u r not inteested.

When did this happen? Can you recognize them? What is the chemical they used to drug u? I hope these asshole will be lock up in jail. Shogun Mgt , pls take note of these people.

However there is something pretty fictitious about this story, the victim is supposedly drugged but he sure can remember the dialogue between the 3 people very much in detail. If not, could it be exaggeration or plain fabrication? Besides, all gay men love sensationalised reading material.

[Guest Guest]

However there is something pretty fictitious about this story, the victim is supposedly drugged but he sure can remember the dialogue between the 3 people very much in detail. If not, could it be exaggeration or plain fabrication? Besides, all gay men love sensationalised reading material.

I agree. Why did he prepare 5 condoms? He could have reported this to the mgt? Why did he not make a police report? If this case is purse in the court of law and proved to be fabricated, the person who posted this may be in serious legal trouble.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

However there is something pretty fictitious about this story, the victim is supposedly drugged but he sure can remember the dialogue between the 3 people very much in detail. If not, could it be exaggeration or plain fabrication? Besides, all gay men love sensationalised reading material.

aGREE.

[Guest ZZZZzzzz]

its was probably a very WET WET WET DREAM he had cos he was not able to attract anyone when he was awake .....put it this way ...he did CUM !!! :twisted:

[Guest Pure Ajee]

Can be a good adult novel writer. I will buy your book.

[Guest cumjuice]

went to shogun today at around 6 plus to 7 plus..

the cute chinese staff manning the counter, is really hot.. he went upstairs to play,, i think he know he got market value. so he used a towel to cover his private part and walk around. Quite a lot of us wanted him. i think gt one guy wanted him badly that he grab him and pull into the room. but the chinese guy just refused.

the quality and quantity is still ok., i think gt at least 20 to 30 plus ppl at nite.

Managed to grab hold of a bit of the chinese guy private part,, quite small,,, maybe not erected yet ;p

[mango_juice]

That one is molest or rape?

[Guest Matured Writer]

I agree. Why did he prepare 5 condoms? He could have reported this to the mgt? Why did he not make a police report? If this case is purse in the court of law and proved to be fabricated, the person who posted this may be in serious legal trouble.

Sometimes the immaturity of some people is really unbelievable. This is a story told by me, not a news broadcast. You need video to prove it is it? This is what I try to recall and I don't claim to be 100% accurate since I was so stoned. So you prefer that I keep repeating "maybe he said this, maybe he said that"? Few non-fiction novels are written news reporting style; it is all understood. Like that also must spoonfeed you like primary school pupils

Call the police? report to management? go to court? I suggest better still go home and cry to mummy can? This probably come from those type who kena touched at the sauna will cry mother cry father like a princess. So high class go sauna for what?

I already said sex is no big deal to me. I did not really want it but hey like ZZZZzzzz said, I did cum not once but twice. I am no virgin and yeah man I did get gangbanged twice willingly with some friends.

You know why some woman rape victims hate to be questioned by the defending lawyer for the rapist? Some of them were traumatized by the fact that they felt something during the rape, they were deeply ashamed of that feeling more than the act of being raped.

I am no virgin woman and pardon me but my body do respond to their physical stimulations. I am not proud of it but merely shrug the whole thing off. This type of sex is not new to me but the way it happened was new and so I wrote it down loh. After reading, not happy go wash your eyes and say choy choy choy loh. Big fat deal

I already accepted the fact that if I sleep at the TV room sure kena molested but at least I can reject or if I like the handsome guy I got the condoms ready. 5 condoms just in case there is an orgy, so sue me I'm a slut but slut also can play safe leh. But I rejected those guys and never expected to be carried into the room and get banged the whole night. I am suay suay so what. These things happen.

[Guest jj]

went to shogun today at around 6 plus to 7 plus..

the cute chinese staff manning the counter, is really hot.. he went upstairs to play,, i think he know he got market value. so he used a towel to cover his private part and walk around. Quite a lot of us wanted him. i think gt one guy wanted him badly that he grab him and pull into the room. but the chinese guy just refused.

the quality and quantity is still ok., i think gt at least 20 to 30 plus ppl at nite.

Managed to grab hold of a bit of the chinese guy private part,, quite small,,, maybe not erected yet ;p

tq very much

[Guest VictimToo]

Sometimes the immaturity of some people is really unbelievable.

whether this is a make-up story or a true incident... BE IT.... but from all these reports and feedbacks we are now aware what sort of crowds goes to Shogun. So if u like to be molested or gangbang, etc.... dun complaint, No body forced u in but just consider first whether is this the right saunas u prefer?? I once a victim there too (being molested during my sleep over night), I make no complaint as I already expected what sort of crowds there... so simple, I just dun over night there anymore. Just my 2 cents worth of advise.

[Guest Guest]

went to shogun today at around 6 plus to 7 plus..

the cute chinese staff manning the counter, is really hot.. he went upstairs to play,, i think he know he got market value. so he used a towel to cover his private part and walk around. Quite a lot of us wanted him. i think gt one guy wanted him badly that he grab him and pull into the

room. but the chinese guy just refused.

the quality and quantity is still ok., i think gt at least 20 to 30 plus ppl at nite.

Managed to grab hold of a bit of the chinese guy private part,, quite small,,, maybe not erected yet ;p

I was there too at that time, surprised to see so many people on a wednesday. Good mix of crowd.

The top level maze area was really hot at the sidewall facing the sun, many people avoided that area. Personally i think there are too many lying space there, "dead" spece which may be good if converted to walking space instead.

Was eyeing on a tall and decent hunk, but saw him went into a cubicle with a specky guy. Heard moanings coming

from inside, then later saw them exchanging numbers. Sad. Haha.....

[BP-stock]

anyone going to the stock/bear theme tonight?

[Guest Guest]

anyone going to the stock/bear theme tonight?

Is it nude or in underwear tonight?

[Guest Guest]

How's the crowd tonite? Any update?

GM's invitation is making me horny. Thought of going down now to 'sow my seeds of luv'.

[snowball]

GM's invitation is making me horny. Thought of going down now to 'sow my seeds of luv'.

don't just thinking, do with action

[Guest cumjuice]

tq very much

are you the yandao staff who is covering yourself with a small white towel.

[gymcub]

Not much cubs and G men. Instead, quite a number of hunks and lean fit this evening at Shogun.

[Guest khanomjeen]

What time is lights out in Shogun? What time does TV room upstairs stop tv to sleeping time?

I am thai from bkk will spend 2 nights in shogun tmr. Have a blanket? Big blanket is enough for cool?

[Guest Guest]

don't just thinking, do with action

would you be able to document the action and record GM's moaning when he cums then post it on HOTGOO?

[Guest Guest]

Not much cubs and G men. Instead, quite a number of hunks and lean fit this evening at Shogun.

Yes, last wknd also see more hunkS & lean fit. Should have gone tonite.

[Guest Guest]

What time is lights out in Shogun? What time does TV room upstairs stop tv to sleeping time?

I am thai from bkk will spend 2 nights in shogun tmr. Have a blanket? Big blanket is enough for cool?

Shgun is 24hrs. Dun sleep in TV Room. Get a room with lock. Wk nites better. Wknd very crowded.

Get blanket from counter. abt 230BHT for 12 or 14 hrs stay?

[Guest paui]

It's like saying those people who got rape should take it as a compliment.

Just as Mike Tyson raped Desiree Washington(beauty pageant contestant).

I dun to be molested to know my worth.

Don't put words in my mouth, and don't put things out of perspective.

[Guest Guest]

Don't put words in my mouth, and don't put things out of perspective.

I m just putting things in their right perspective.

Molesting is not Complimenting.

It is an Invasion of Privacy whether it happen in private/public to any straight/gay/man/woman.

Thank you.

[GachiMuchi]

would you be able to document the action and record GM's moaning when he cums then post it on HOTGOO?

You mean you want Snowball to record me fxxking you and post it on hotgoo? I don't mind. Been there done that.

[Guest Gsm]

I m just putting things in their right perspective.

Molesting is not Complimenting.

It is an Invasion of Privacy whether it happen in private/public to any straight/gay/man/woman.

Thank you.

Depends on how you define molest. Some princess think even soft brushing in the corridor is molest. You can hear them complaining loudly or even here.

Some people like to be molested at the sauna. You don't like don't spoil it for others. Stay home or stay in the bright areas and don't spoil things.

[irus1966]

Yup... all u pussies, princesses and queens who comes to the sauna and claims that they are being molested should

seek mental treatment.

Those who are caught having their hands covering their "jewels" during nude theme nights should be given leather handcuffs and

have their hands tied behind their backs.

Please don't bother coming into the sauna and spoil the fun. Free your mind, for heaven sake!!!

[Guest Guest]

As mentioned shogun crowds r more rugged and wild and mostly treated molesting , gangbang are very common . So if u kena "rape" or Yr dick n balls kena grap out of nowhere.... Welcome to shogun. This is the place!!!!

[mgb2144]

I m just putting things in their right perspective.

Molesting is not Complimenting.

It is an Invasion of Privacy whether it happen in private/public to any straight/gay/man/woman.

Thank you.

Oh for christ's sake, u r in a sauna!!!! If u r so afraid of being touched, stay at home!