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now at shogun. There is this weird old man standing next to me playing mahjong and mumbling cheebye several times. I thot shold say pong.

The crowd is mixed , lots f\of mature, i indian, i cute ang moh uncle, a few cubs, etc. I guess is a relaxing day and ppl are taking it slow. They are showing the movie 'Skyline' again but tis this a better DVD version. Good B-grade moviwe and everybody now watching (at least 20 to 30) upstairs and downstairs.

There are a few young guys , the specky , goody type, etc. Nice young man though. There is also a few fair, Jap-looking ma\en, quite cute.

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now at shogun. There is this weird old man standing next to me playing mahjong and mumbling cheebye several times. I thot shold say pong.

The crowd is mixed , lots f\of mature, i indian, i cute ang moh uncle, a few cubs, etc. I guess is a relaxing day and ppl are taking it slow. They are showing the movie 'Skyline' again but tis this a better DVD version. Good B-grade moviwe and everybody now watching (at least 20 to 30) upstairs and downstairs.

There are a few young guys , the specky , goody type, etc. Nice young man though. There is also a few fair, Jap-looking ma\en, quite cute.

wow.. who are you with?

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wow.. who are you with?

Off topic abit.... Where's the toilet that u took the pic? Still got open shower (no door) ard meh? Look like a camp thou....

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wow.. who are you with?

With friends. Now they are showing the new kuan gong movie starring donnie yuen. Just finished with a cute g-men , can go orchard window-shop now. Now the crowd is getting into action. Stilll, the crowd is not too bad. got a few cute bears/cub. There's one or two giants that came in , but they r just your average joe,pleasant but not those big manly type.

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The crowd is very bad tonite. No bears, on stockies, no muscle. Thought it was fundoshi nite, it wasnt. Ended up beaten by bed bug at the black sofa in front of the dark room, very itchy. Hope the management can do something about it.

heng! was so tired and was torned between dragging my tired body down or to nua at home. but tk god, i had a good orgasm tdy at shogun. arrived at 4.30pm and finished by 5.30pm. one of my most efficient and fruitful visit to shogun.tdy crowd only slightly better, but got cute bears/cubs and i already makan one of them. hehe

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I really doubted yr sentence, I know that 10 men take such cases very seriously, if you have reported to them on yr destiny, they will warm the ass-hole and if he remain unchange, they will confirmed banned him. I dun face such incident which I used to kena but now when i tell them no or tell them that i will report to the mgt, they will surely scare and goes off. I knew that they have already banned a few lousy customers becos of their bad behaviours.

and guess what, jeremy was not alone. there was this big, fat tall and bald staff around when i approached the counter.

i was speechless when i heard that reply. since i informed the mgt and no action taken, i decided to settle it in my own way. i guess there are 2 different styles of mgt at tmc - one when patrick is around and the other, in his abscence.

therefore i stop going to TMC. this is also a blessing in diguise. i am actually much comfortable and happier in shogun. i also have had better sexual experiences in shogun, too. but thanks for defending tmc on their stand regarding this harassment issue.

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I bumped into that guy on last sat at shogun as well. Doesn't take no for an answer. Anyway, he is not the only one. These days, it seems quite a number of patrons don't take no for an answer. They will persist and stalk you.

Last Saturday, when i was kissing a guy along the corridor, someone placed a bottle of poppers under our nose. These people have no respect for others. I don't think this is anything the management can do. Nobody wants their moods to be spoiled. So just show basic courtesy and respect.

thanks for your verification.

yes, there were a lot of other incidents like that. last month when i was upstair in the tv lounge, i witness this ugly incident.

This guy, Mr A, grabbed Vincent up to confront another guy, Mr B. Mr A was very angry and told Vincent that Mr B tripped him in the darkroom. Mr A almost fell and hit the wall. Mr B was pissed off by Mr A cause Mr B's advances were rejected. Mr

A shouted at Mr B "fxxk off, i m not interested in u...." and wanted to call for the police but as Action for Aids was launching an event at shogun. Mr Vincent asked Mr A to give him some face. I was a bit taken aback coz i thot better leave if the police was being called. There were a couple of who witnessed this unfortunate incident

As the poppers incident, if i were u, i would grab that asshole and one of you would go down and grab vincent, the owner.

this is coercion of the worst kind!

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well, this is my first post and I will be going to overnight in Shogun on Thursday with my friend.we are both young so any advices for us?

since you are young, i presume both of u are above 18 or 21,right?

I seriously do not recommend for you to go and stay overnite!

It's better to go on a sat, say 4ish to 8 or 9 pm.

Pls feel free to go to the counter to ask for Vincent or any staff should u encounter unwanted attention or harassment.

and pls practice safe sex.

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Oh u kena too i also got stalked n man he is persistent n forced and grabbed me into the room but i resisted. Not sure if he is the 1 u mentioned? Miine 'stalker' was bit short n round n smooth chn and I kept tellin him not interested but he said i like u so lean n athl lkn which i appreciate the compliment. But no means no rite there's a limit. Everyone having fun but also have bit of respect or courtesy least? :unsure:

BINGO! that's the guy - fair, big puppy eyes, smooth skin. Honestly, he's not that bad looking. but his desperado cruising style was scary. He's been doing that at 17 and 10men. Now Shogun, bcoz more ppl to harass. Aiyo, i told him nicely b4 and he continued to pester me like a hooker from patpong. I just want to get far away from him. Nevermind, when i bumped into him again. he would then come up and touch your arms and repeat the whole cycle. he stopped bcoz i shouted at him b4 but u know what, he was still trying his luck with me. I guess even if he was arrested and placed in police custody, he would harass the police (if he's cute), too :)

i was observing him, almost any above-average guy kenna and they were running for their lives as if he was a tsunami.

Strangely, he did not pester the gong gong.

i hope the gong gongs would do us a favor by pestering him, to give him a taste of his bad medicine.

Anyway, i spoke with Vincent this afternoon at Shogun regarding all these harassments.

Vincent clearly said "NO MEANS NO". He would ban these bad seeds from entering Shogun.

So guys, let's all go to shogun, respect yourself and others and have a fxxking good time, okay?

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well, R, it comes with the territory. When u look hot and appeal a wide range of men, like u obviuosly do, then comes the inevitable... loads of attention and sometimes from pple who cant contain themselves... I do believe he could not contain himseld literally and may have unloaded a lot of jizz with his hands just reminiscing that one encounter with u..... lucky bugger tasted heaven on earth

sad for him that he cant handle it and became "venomous"... but looking at the bright side, at 50, you surely got "it" and will probably have it for years to cum

this is one compliment anyone would decline.

i m attracted to a lot of guys but that does not mean i would go up and molest them.

i think we are the most lucky when we are desired by people whom we desire.

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So guys, let's all go to shogun, respect yourself and others and have a fxxking good time, okay?

too bad, some of them thought once they pay for the entrance fees, they can do what they like & they are big boss :lol:

shogun is still a nice place to go even you not there for sex, i like to watch " movies " there too

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At 50, I am not in the league with those younger men.

And thanks for the complements, abang admirer.... flirting to the max here.

Shogun is a place for us the older and heavier men to relax and unwind.

For $10 you get a couple of hours of "vegetating" in the steam room, dark room, TV room and the bathroom.. Wow that is a steal...

Yeah! Shogun is like a no frills sauna, cheap but value for money, esp in this current economy situation.

i dun need sauna or jacuzzi. one steamroom is fine. use of internet, watch the latest movies, etc. Wow, it's steal.

it's not always abt sex. i m always happy to see friends whom i made in sauna (some as far as 10 yrs ago) to catch up or to go makan later on. It's more like a gay social club, without the alcohol and the smoke.

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too bad, some of them thought once they pay for the entrance fees, they can do what they like & they are big boss :lol:

shogun is still a nice place to go even you not there for sex, i like to watch " movies " there too

we hab the same thinking.. hehe..

i too always jus sit ard, or walk ard toking to frenz..

watching movies, or use my laptop..

its like a place to relac and tink nth else..

look at cute or attractive guys, gossiping, chatting abt own experiences..

its like a real life forum itself.. haha..

wana make frenz, i dun mind making a fren like u to chat wid.. =]

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BINGO! that's the guy - fair, big puppy eyes, smooth skin. Honestly, he's not that bad looking. but his desperado cruising style was scary. He's been doing that at 17 and 10men. Now Shogun, bcoz more ppl to harass. Aiyo, i told him nicely b4 and he continued to pester me like a hooker from patpong. I just want to get far away from him. Nevermind, when i bumped into him again. he would then come up and touch your arms and repeat the whole cycle. he stopped bcoz i shouted at him b4 but u know what, he was still trying his luck with me. I guess even if he was arrested and placed in police custody, he would harass the police (if he's cute), too :)

i was observing him, almost any above-average guy kenna and they were running for their lives as if he was a tsunami.

Strangely, he did not pester the gong gong.

i hope the gong gongs would do us a favor by pestering him, to give him a taste of his bad medicine.

Anyway, i spoke with Vincent this afternoon at Shogun regarding all these harassments.

Vincent clearly said "NO MEANS NO". He would ban these bad seeds from entering Shogun.

So guys, let's all go to shogun, respect yourself and others and have a fxxking good time, okay?

Oh really man 1st time got 'stalked' n was actually quite fearful in a way like runnin away from 'tsunami' as u mentioned haha..but also kinda 'ruin' my nite but lucky got funtime too hehe. He really dun take No 4 an answer sitting there watching tv upstairs sat besides me n fondle me again wow was really agitated by then shouted at him n went downstairs lucky he did not follow me...actually dun mind being 'molested' but not in this manner LOL... :oops: Ofc shogun's 1 of my hangout place besides other saunas too... :whistle:

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since you are young, i presume both of u are above 18 or 21,right?

I seriously do not recommend for you to go and stay overnite!

It's better to go on a sat, say 4ish to 8 or 9 pm.

Pls feel free to go to the counter to ask for Vincent or any staff should u encounter unwanted attention or harassment.

and pls practice safe sex.

Actually we are 24. We just want to chill at a place overnight

And therefore chose Shogun since it's 24 hours. No harm right?

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Actually we are 24. We just want to chill at a place overnight

And therefore chose Shogun since it's 24 hours. No harm right?

ya...no harm....hmm y choose a sauna to chill overnight? u look gorgeous especially ur built...

u will sure attract all the ppls there when u go in...hmm all the uncles or chubs will sure go n try to have a taste of u and your frens...if u don mind all these, then i will say go ahead ba...u will enjoy....

let me know how u feel after u stay there overnight....hope u have a nice experience.....

u ever been to other saunas?

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Oh really man 1st time got 'stalked' n was actually quite fearful in a way like runnin away from 'tsunami' as u mentioned haha..but also kinda 'ruin' my nite but lucky got funtime too hehe. He really dun take No 4 an answer sitting there watching tv upstairs sat besides me n fondle me again wow was really agitated by then shouted at him n went downstairs lucky he did not follow me...actually dun mind being 'molested' but not in this manner LOL... :oops: Ofc shogun's 1 of my hangout place besides other saunas too... :whistle:

not just u, so many ppl romantic nite kenna spoilt by frodor (i eanted to coined him gollum but he's not that ugly).

nxt time, put a mouse trap in your towel and let him fondle lah. then use a cloth peg to decorate his willy loh.

sure cry father/mother.

but he's super thick-skinned, i shouted at him and he still try to peep at me when i was about to shower.

tk god i noticed b4 i took off my shower. heng ai.

i think every time he goes there, he always go back with a full load.

okay lah, i will tell him that the fishes in the pond are all gay.

then i ask him to put his dick inside the koi pond for the fishes to blow.

at least they would not reject his 'tiny worm'. hehe

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we hab the same thinking.. hehe..

i too always jus sit ard, or walk ard toking to frenz..

watching movies, or use my laptop..

its like a place to relac and tink nth else..

look at cute or attractive guys, gossiping, chatting abt own experiences..

its like a real life forum itself.. haha..

wana make frenz, i dun mind making a fren like u to chat wid.. =]

AND MOLEST ME, FOR FREE! where should i send my bill to?

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Actually we are 24. We just want to chill at a place overnight

And therefore chose Shogun since it's 24 hours. No harm right?

Okay, have your fun with others or in groups.

If both u are tired, find a cubicle with locks to rest for a few hrs, or take turns.

dun risk sleeping in the open space, pls.

as i said, look for the recept downstair for help.

The boss of shogun, vincent stays there, too.

pls be safe and have a good time with nice ppl :)

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well, this is my first post and I will be going to overnight in Shogun on Thursday with my friend.we are both young so any advices for us?

lolx.. tell u wat, if u need help, xiao xiong from the counter is at ur service..

if u r friends with him, and you have no choice but to slp in the open area on the 1st lvl,

he can protect u when he sees someone touching u at nite..

so chill.. =]

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ya...no harm....hmm y choose a sauna to chill overnight? u look gorgeous especially ur built...

u will sure attract all the ppls there when u go in...hmm all the uncles or chubs will sure go n try to have a taste of u and your frens...if u don mind all these, then i will say go ahead ba...u will enjoy....

let me know how u feel after u stay there overnight....hope u have a nice experience.....

u ever been to other saunas?

No. This is my first sauna experience.

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Okay, have your fun with others or in groups.

If both u are tired, find a cubicle with locks to rest for a few hrs, or take turns.

dun risk sleeping in the open space, pls.

as i said, look for the recept downstair for help.

The boss of shogun, vincent stays there, too.

pls be safe and have a good time with nice ppl :)

Hey, thanks for the advice..

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sorry arh.. i dun molest ppl.. srry to disspoint u..

even if c ppl who i like, i jus stay one corner peeping when i gt the chance..

you molested me at least 4 times already, c u in cock!

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lolx.. tell u wat, if u need help, xiao xiong from the counter is at ur service..

if u r friends with him, and you have no choice but to slp in the open area on the 1st lvl,

he can protect u when he sees someone touching u at nite..

so chill.. =]

If just touching then ok. I sleep there for a few hours once and few ppl try and touch, I wake up and tell them go away. What the issue?

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just arrived at shogun abt an hr. Crowd so so except for a few cute cubs/hunks. description for tonite 's crowd - from the very fair to the very dark, from the gorgeous to the u-glee (sorril). still have not cum , hopefully more would show, i mean, better quality.:)

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just arrived at shogun abt an hr. Crowd so so except for a few cute cubs/hunks. description for tonite 's crowd - from the very fair to the very dark, from the gorgeous to the u-glee (sorril). still have not cum , hopefully more would show, i mean, better quality.:)

alot of people a not?

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alot of people a not?

getting more crowded now but I think quality more important. I guess Friday only get busy after 9pm.abt to leave for supper but saw a few not-too-bad ones , so going up again:)

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Shogun is pretty packed right now. Last nite was as bland as porridge, tonite, ppl are getting so horny that you could feel it in the ir-

Great music by adele, gag, j-lo. A lot of bears and chubs> I guess they must be waiting for tonite. Also some lean and toned young men, handsome face with sunshine smile. But not my cup of tea, sorril. Some tall guys, some indians and the rest your avearge uncle joe.

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the bears are hot tonite. One Jap regular, top is here. some bears from m'sain. there is also one short, fair hairy cub.

A lot of big tall men(1.8 to 1.9m) with better body, more towards the muscular/stocky type. M friend was pleasantly surprised coz it was his visit on a sat to shogun. Tk God for tonite. Let's hope tm is also as good!

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indeed the lean and toned young guys r all up to standard... but too bad, i am not their type...

like a guy (not lean & toned, but shorter & muscular), but think he is not interested too.. he was stalked by a very big chub and few times he was standing beside me and saw him kissing & hugging someone beside me..

i really think Shogun too dark.. i am totally blinded so i hav to keep standing at the wall...

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is babybear xiaoxiong (the guy at the counter)?

i wonder... does it even matter? why bother who is it him or not?

unless you like that fat thing la.. haha.. he's more like a chub than a bear,

i wonder how dare he call himself xiao xiong..

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i wonder... does it even matter? why bother who is it him or not?

unless you like that fat thing la.. haha.. he's more like a chub than a bear,

i wonder how dare he call himself xiao xiong..

jz curious lol. and yea i think cubs/bears are really cute :whistle:

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jz curious lol. and yea i think cubs/bears are really cute :whistle:

lolx.. oopx.. accidentally pressed enter..

u like him?? seems like we hab a large diff in taste..

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indeed the lean and toned young guys r all up to standard... but too bad, i am not their type...

like a guy (not lean & toned, but shorter & muscular), but think he is not interested too.. he was stalked by a very big chub and few times he was standing beside me and saw him kissing & hugging someone beside me..

i really think Shogun too dark.. i am totally blinded so i hav to keep standing at the wall...

Yummy, handsome face shouldbe quite photogenic. I counted at least 3 to 4 of them (1 chinese, the rest i think Pinoys).

Never mind, it was not meant to be. At least, you did not harass him.

Back to harassment of patrons at Shogun:

1. the short, fair chn (actually indo/thai mix) was banned from Shogun when he tried to enter on wed. This isd due to the

numerous complaints from the customer.

2. There was an episode that happened inthe darkroom. A guy was flung towards the woden/glass door coz he was harassing this

big bear numerous times but did noit get the I-not-interested several times. Very Maloo.

As Shogun is getting more crowded esp on Wknds and the quality are getting better, there are bound to be itchy fingers that dun appeal to the brain. What I would advise is to look at the person you are interested in and nod or smile. If the person returns the smile, make sure it's not a friendly one but a sexual sign. Then try to get close to the person to touch them on the back or the side. No resistance, then move on to the ass. It's a slow process but at least you spare yourself the embarassment of being rejected. If u r rejected, move on gracefully. Do not hiss or use vulgarity against the person. Why?

Because the next person u r interested could witness your behaviour and get turn off b4 you even try your luck on a new target.

Actually, the red light was pretty bright and good for cruising.

I guess some 'Phantom of the Opera' or 'Lusty Vampire' prefer dim or no light.

My friend & I were outside bcoz we could hardly see inside.

Mgt, ps take take. Tks.

I hope the mgt take note

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just arrived at shogun abt 1 hr ago, finished my biz already . today's crowd is okay but some pretty good hunks. one from china with fair skin, nice bod;

the other tanned with big chest. the movie now showing is the cny flick 'laughing all the way home', wuth jack neo, jaclyn, mark. quite a joy to watch.

quality not bad tdy.

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he's the guy with the laptop. nice guy to know.

the slightly chubby guy is andy, i think?

who's andy?

i nvr heard of any staff called andy..

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