Guest Love them Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 http://vimeo.com/20656976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Euouae90 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Sad for them. But I still love eating meat and chicken. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamAlex Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I feel bad for those animals but it's part of our food cycle, don't think anybody is going to do anything significant except maybe going vegan 5 years anniversary soon Loving can hurt, loving can hurt sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boilgold Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 OMG, I really hope that this situation is juz some exceptions of the normal food industry. Poor animals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVisitors Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 You may rear or farm them for your food, but it is absolutely inhumane to subject them to unnecessary abuse and cruelty.This is why Muslims practise their animals to be slaughtered throught the Halal way, where animals are calmed down, prayers offered for them before they are slaughtered. This was explained to me by a Muslim friend of mine.I still believe animals have souls.When I was a kid, our family used to live in one of those landed property pre-war Peranakan bunglows.We used to rear our own chickens, ducks, had a few goats, two cats, three dogs , a piglet and a lotus pond where we reared fishes like the sheng yu and the soon hock. Even as a kid, I gave them all each a name.Thus we had our own supply of eggs, goat's milk, lotus seeds and fresh water fish.We also have a plot of land where we planted our own vegatables and about 60 pots of orchids.When we have to slaughter one of them for an occassion, I felt very sad, and so did my grandma.Thus I grew up having these connection with animals. Infact be it a plant or an animal, they are all just lives to me.Even when a plant of mine died due to my own forgetfullness to water them, I feel sad for them due to my own negligence.Really don't understand why should that guy, just punch and kick the calf. That cruelty really doesn't makes sense. fenghou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenghou Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 You may rear or farm them for your food, but it is absolutely inhumane to subject them to unnecessary abuse and cruelty.This is why Muslims practise their animals to be slaughtered throught the Halal way, where animals are calmed down, prayers offered for them before they are slaughtered. This was explained to me by a Muslim friend of mine.I still believe animals have souls.Totally agreeJust want to highlight this part and emphasize on itWe rear animals for food, not for pleasure of torturing or mocking them.perhaps I would convert into being a vegetarian one daybut that requires a lot of compassion, determination and a big hearti'm lacking in all of these traits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVisitors Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Totally agreeJust want to highlight this part and emphasize on itWe rear animals for food, not for pleasure of torturing or mocking them.perhaps I would convert into being a vegetarian one daybut that requires a lot of compassion, determination and a big hearti'm lacking in all of these traitsNo doubt it is a kind contribution on your part, but we cannot be exclusively vegetarians and not including other source of nutiiets as you age.Vegetables and fruits are very high in fibre, vitamins and minerals, but they lack protein for muscle synetheis and calcium for bone/joints formation.That is why the very strict vegetarians often develope bones and joints ailments as they age.Even you are a vegetarian, include egg for your protein source, milk and cheese , for your protein and calcium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenghou Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 what about soy proteins? can they replace the proteins we get from meat??i've actually thought of the issue beforeit's not about whether we should be vegetarians or not, but more of choosing suppliers who practices more sustainable farming methodsfor example airpork from Australia advertised that their pigs feed on natural beans and wheat and that they are not confined to small "cells"i also remember watching the news which states that some cows in certain countries are fed with natural hay , sleep on water beds, have air conditioning and listens to classical music daily...we as consumers should choose meat excursively from such farmers who practice human and sustainable farming habitsbut of course such meat from such providers demands a premium price, not everyone can afford themi would certainly choose to eat meat from such providers exclusively if i am rich though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVisitors Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) what about soy proteins? can they replace the proteins we get from meat??i've actually thought of the issue beforeit's not about whether we should be vegetarians or not, but more of choosing suppliers who practices more sustainable farming methodsfor example airpork from Australia advertised that their pigs feed on natural beans and wheat and that they are not confined to small "cells"i also remember watching the news which states that some cows in certain countries are fed with natural hay , sleep on water beds, have air conditioning and listens to classical music daily...we as consumers should choose meat excursively from such farmers who practice human and sustainable farming habitsbut of course such meat from such providers demands a premium price, not everyone can afford themi would certainly choose to eat meat from such providers exclusively if i am rich thoughProteins from plants differs from the animal ones, because the latter's molecules matches closely to our human's muscle molecule structure.In the long run, our muscles doesn't benefit much from the plant protein's . You have heard this before that, soya benefits women but not men. Some researchs found that soya proteins not only lowers sperm production, it converts into estrogen in men.Eg. Collegan comes from pig or aquatic source. But apparently this was found the collegan fron pig works better for human skin production, because the pig's molecules resembles closer to the human's as compared to the aquatics Edited April 6, 2011 by TheVisitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenghou Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 yup heard that soy proteins aren't as good as proteins from meat beforethanks for verifying perhaps another alternative for vegetarians could be vegetarian multi-supplements but then again there must be a catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azuchan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Animal proteins take the form of long chains. The body breaks the protein down into amino acids easily. You can see it in human and animal muscles, giving long strands of muscle fibre.Plant proteins take the form of clumps, like clumps of hairballs. The body takes longer to break it down. You can see it in the tofu making process, where the curds are clumped up together.Also, plant proteins are incomplete proteins, meaning they don't carry all the essential amino acids the body needs in a single source.Animal proteins are complete proteins, because they have all the essential amino acids the body needs from a single source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stars Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) You can replace meat in your diet, but it has to be done correctly. Edited April 7, 2011 by stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keith87 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) for god's sake. i almost puke watching this. i stopped watching at the pig part,now i will never eat pork again, thank u. wait a min, i am halal. Edited February 26, 2013 by keith87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qedcwc Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) yup heard that soy proteins aren't as good as proteins from meat beforethanks for verifying perhaps another alternative for vegetarians could be vegetarian multi-supplements but then again there must be a catchI beg to differ.When we're talking about food sources that are rich in protein, one should ascertain whether it's complete protein or incomplete protein. Protein can be broken down further into smaller units called amino acids. Generally there are 22 types of amino acids. Of these, 13 can be synthesized by the human body by itself, thus called non-essential amino acids. The remaining 9 have to be consumed via food intake, thus called essential amino acids.A COMPLETE protein food source will contain all the 9 essential amino acids. Usually animal proteins, obviously meat, are complete protein food sources.Incomplete protein food sources do not contain all 9 essential amino acids. Plant proteins usually fall into this category. SOYBEAN, however, is the ONLY exception to contain all the 9 essential amino acids. The advantage that soy protein has over animal proteins is that it does not contain as much excessive saturated fats and calories as animal protein. Plus, it also contains natural isoflavones, phytochemicals that help to lower 'bad' blood cholesterol levels.Quote from Wikipedia:Soybeans are considered by many agencies to be a source of complete protein. A complete protein is one that contains significant amounts of all the essential amino acids that must be provided to the human body because of the body's inability to synthesize them. For this reason, soy is a good source of protein, amongst many others, for vegetarians and vegans or for people who want to reduce the amount of meat they eat. According to the US Food and Drug Administration:"Soy protein products can be good substitutes for animal products because, unlike some other beans, soy offers a 'complete' protein profile. ... Soy protein products can replace animal-based foods—which also have complete proteins but tend to contain more fat, especially saturated fat—without requiring major adjustments elsewhere in the diet."People often tell me that taking too much soybeans can cause a man to develop larger breasts. I am, unfortunately, a soybean lover. Soy products, like soybean milk, tau foo fa, tempe, beancurd, etc, are among my favourites. However, over the years, this claim didn't manifest on me at all! If you were ever to consider soy protein supplemental drink mixes, keep a lookout for the term soy protein isolate. This translates into that purin, a substance when in excess causes gout, is reduced to minimum levels in the protein source. Generally many protein sources contain varying amounts of purin and the liver has the capability to handle it, but not when it's in excess. Purin is exactly why doctors advise gout patients against consuming any protein products, but this indirectly deprieves the patients the necessary proteins they need.For supplements, sometimes the term 'vegetarian supplements' may not necessarily mean they are good, but may only mean that the capsules or softgels are not made from animal gelatin or other animal derivatives. The stuff inside may possibly be synthesized from inedible stuff, which although specifies the presence of vitamins and minerals in it, but the human body is only able to absorb approx 8% of these synthetic nutrients, while the rest are waste. Consumed long term, this waste will become a burden to the liver, which is why we hear and read a lot of negative reports on supplements. We already saw what happened to Andrea de Cruz, I think nobody ever wants that to happen to our own selves.Therefore, if one is ever to consider looking for supplements, please ensure that the manufacturer is of renowned status, specializing in producing supplements from mainly fruits and vegetables, grown organically on their own plots of farmland, produced and packaged within their own premises by their own efforts, this at least ensures the quality of the products is in check. Edited April 7, 2011 by qedcwc "You like who you like lah. Who cares if someone likes the other someone because of their race? It's when they hate them. That's the problem."Orked (acted by Sharifah Amani) in SEPET (2004, directed by Yasmin Ahmad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clickclock Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 wow thanks for giving the link, its an eye opener.. i feel kinda guilty I draw sexy men, visit http://www.toastwire.tumblr.com click on 'My Artworks'. Willing to take on comissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeowPrince Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Food is still food. There is PETA and there is the other PETA... People Eating Tasty Animals. Instagram @the_meowprince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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