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Omgosh im out of confinement. Tekong was really a nightmare for me, and I have 5 weeks to go before i officially get the hell off this island. Im PES B2L3, and I seriously thought that it would be like a chalet with some regimentation and discipline cos we cant be in the frontline of battle anyways.

My PCs and Section Commanders were nice to us (dont know whether its cos of confinement reasons) at the individual level. But then they will not hesitate to screw us upside down even if we are late to fall-in by only 3 mins (ridiculous things which i wont get). I shall decline to comment much on the sergeants, except that they are generally nice with severe temper issues.

To my horror, i got screamed at for not tucking in my CIVILIAN shirt during my enlistment day. Then once we were at coyline, all the vulgarities and cheebyes and nabeis start spewing out.

We were also made to sit and stand until we could do it fast enough.

I cant really stand people shouting at me non-stop for really minor things, and then go on to tell me to suck thumb "cos this is the Army". Example: on our first bookout day, my platoon forgot to do area cleaning in the morning (dont see how its gonna help much in battle). The fxxking that we got later ... 30 counts of 4 jumping jacks. Then the ludicrous timings given ... like 7 mins to change from admin attire to full battle order.

Confinement was really hell for me. I miss my civilian life and my parents. I haven exactly gotten pushups for punishment (icant do a standard one by the way ... not even 1) But its a sad and depressing mental game. Next up would be field camp, and I have heard more stories of how its more of a tekan camp with push ups in FBO, sgts stunning your rifle, high kneeling everywhere. So can anyone tell me how to deal with BMT other than to just suck it up? Like anything? Or how to deal with field camp?( i need to pass this to graduate so i have to know what to expect)

all I can say is: welcome to army dear! :) just grit your teeth and go through it ah!

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Confinement was really hell for me. I miss my civilian life and my parents. I haven exactly gotten pushups for punishment (icant do a standard one by the way ... not even 1) But its a sad and depressing mental game. Next up would be field camp, and I have heard more stories of how its more of a tekan camp with push ups in FBO, sgts stunning your rifle, high kneeling everywhere. So can anyone tell me how to deal with BMT other than to just suck it up? Like anything? Or how to deal with field camp?( i need to pass this to graduate so i have to know what to expect)

You wrote 5 paragraphs loathing your life in NS.

Really, you can't do a standard pushup. Is that due to some form of physical limitation or medical condition.

Treatment generally gets better after tekong. Before that, give yourself a reason on why you shouldn't quit. Ask yourself, life's going to screw you up sooner or later. There isn't OOC in life, what then?

The human mind is incredibly strong.

Believe in yourself. Make the best of your situation. Be happy.

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Omgosh im out of confinement. Tekong was really a nightmare for me, and I have 5 weeks to go before i officially get the hell off this island. Im PES B2L3, and I seriously thought that it would be like a chalet with some regimentation and discipline cos we cant be in the frontline of battle anyways.

My PCs and Section Commanders were nice to us (dont know whether its cos of confinement reasons) at the individual level. But then they will not hesitate to screw us upside down even if we are late to fall-in by only 3 mins (ridiculous things which i wont get). I shall decline to comment much on the sergeants, except that they are generally nice with severe temper issues.

To my horror, i got screamed at for not tucking in my CIVILIAN shirt during my enlistment day. Then once we were at coyline, all the vulgarities and cheebyes and nabeis start spewing out.

We were also made to sit and stand until we could do it fast enough.

I cant really stand people shouting at me non-stop for really minor things, and then go on to tell me to suck thumb "cos this is the Army". Example: on our first bookout day, my platoon forgot to do area cleaning in the morning (dont see how its gonna help much in battle). The fxxking that we got later ... 30 counts of 4 jumping jacks. Then the ludicrous timings given ... like 7 mins to change from admin attire to full battle order.

Confinement was really hell for me. I miss my civilian life and my parents. I haven exactly gotten pushups for punishment (icant do a standard one by the way ... not even 1) But its a sad and depressing mental game. Next up would be field camp, and I have heard more stories of how its more of a tekan camp with push ups in FBO, sgts stunning your rifle, high kneeling everywhere. So can anyone tell me how to deal with BMT other than to just suck it up? Like anything? Or how to deal with field camp?( i need to pass this to graduate so i have to know what to expect)

I read with sadness and anger. Sad because a young guy, the future of my country is whining and behaving like such a looser. Angry because you think your intellect is above others but you are nothing but a spoilt brat.

I get it, you are Pes B and you are weak. But you are behaving exactly like what you are; a weakling, Just read back what you wrote. Everything you write is about you, you, you. whine, whine whine. How miserable you are, How people mistreat you, How pointless training is..on and on and on.

Have you ever wonder why you are so weak? Because your mind is weak. Because you always avoid doing things you don't like and you got away with it. But in the army, you can't get away from it, you can't have your way. So when push comes to shove, you fail. You fail big time. You can't even do 1 bloody push up. Why? Because you are weak minded. weak body, weak everything, yet you talk big about how pointless everything is in the army. But if others can do it why can't you? Why?

Have you ever thought of how nice to have a fit body like what others have? Gym too expensive, no time, too far, etc. all those excuses.

Now let me put it in another way. The army you are in is a "big gym" with "free membership" (Enlistment). It has trainers (your sergeants / corporals) and motivators (CSM) to help you shag that weakling you are and transform you to someone better, whether you like it or not for the next few weeks / years.

Yes, it's not easy in the army. But everyone who is Singaporean goes through it, like it or not. Ask those guys who never been through it and they will tell you that it was their greatest regret. Ask those guys whom had been through it and you will hear them telling how they miss the friendship they had, the training, the Independence and the good and bad times they spent during their time in the army, etc.

Now, Stop the negativity and start thinking positively how you can overcome your own limitations and grow and be man and stop behaving like a bloody weakling spoilt brat of a boy.

Prove to yourself that you can overcome everything. The enemy is not the army or the things that is happening around you, The enemy is YOU yourself. If you want to be angry, be angry with YOURSELF because it is your own negativity that FAIL YOU, not the army.

The people around you is trying to help you to be better, you just need to be positive and put an effort and work at your own limitations.

You fail because you allow yourself to fail and you succeed because of the effort you put in.

At the end of the day, you reap what you sow.

It's your life and you decide.

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im in whiskey coy. lol so sad, could have some fun if it was nearer hahahaah.

I was from whiskey coy! :0 the prev batch... Bmt how to haf fun?!? So risky..

is whiskey slack? I have loads of friends in Whisley.

I was from prev batch.. Whiskey quite slack.. IMO the most xiong coy in sch3 is Taurus :/ but I heard this time round, the first book out for Taurus was 12++... Unlike wad I hear from my friends abt how Taurus was like..

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Omgosh im out of confinement. Tekong was really a nightmare for me, and I have 5 weeks to go before i officially get the hell off this island. Im PES B2L3, and I seriously thought that it would be like a chalet with some regimentation and discipline cos we cant be in the frontline of battle anyways.

My PCs and Section Commanders were nice to us (dont know whether its cos of confinement reasons) at the individual level. But then they will not hesitate to screw us upside down even if we are late to fall-in by only 3 mins (ridiculous things which i wont get). I shall decline to comment much on the sergeants, except that they are generally nice with severe temper issues.

To my horror, i got screamed at for not tucking in my CIVILIAN shirt during my enlistment day. Then once we were at coyline, all the vulgarities and cheebyes and nabeis start spewing out.

We were also made to sit and stand until we could do it fast enough.

I cant really stand people shouting at me non-stop for really minor things, and then go on to tell me to suck thumb "cos this is the Army". Example: on our first bookout day, my platoon forgot to do area cleaning in the morning (dont see how its gonna help much in battle). The fxxking that we got later ... 30 counts of 4 jumping jacks. Then the ludicrous timings given ... like 7 mins to change from admin attire to full battle order.

Confinement was really hell for me. I miss my civilian life and my parents. I haven exactly gotten pushups for punishment (icant do a standard one by the way ... not even 1) But its a sad and depressing mental game. Next up would be field camp, and I have heard more stories of how its more of a tekan camp with push ups in FBO, sgts stunning your rifle, high kneeling everywhere. So can anyone tell me how to deal with BMT other than to just suck it up? Like anything? Or how to deal with field camp?( i need to pass this to graduate so i have to know what to expect)

Idk wad to say to you.. If ur not going to change ur mindset, u won't only suffer the next 5weeks but the next 1year 8months of it army life... Honestly alot of tings we do in army is nt always for battling in war.. It's just regimentation and discipline.. Like u say being late for 3min oso kena screamed at.. Idk abt you, being on time is.. Pretty important.. ESP if u want to talk abt going to battle... Imagine ur resupply come in late 3min? Maybe enemy wild haf charged in liao... I noe it sounds a little ridiculous la.. But jus tink, makes some sense right? We all will go thru the 9weeks of bmt.. Some ppl enjoy, some ppl find it like shit... Whether u wan ur bmt experience to be enjoyable or not depends on yourself...

I personally think there is no such ting as how to deal with this ehh... Jus.. Take everything with an open mind lo. Dot look at them so negatively... They pump u, jus take it as helping u to train to do more pushups lo.. It's not easy la :/ ... My confinement week nvr get pumped also... The moment I book in the next week, first day kena pump Liao.. So u better prepare.. ESP so since ur enhanced batch right? They will cfm expect ur fitness to be quite up there 1... When I enter my fitness oso cui la... Oso cannot do alot pushups 1.. So that 1, no nid worry, cfm kena pump until u can do pushups 1..

Fieldcamp was tiring but a fun experience for me... Get to bond even better with ur buddy and ur section mates... May sound crazy, but I enjoyed the combat rations lol. It will be hard la.. But I tink army .. Is More mental than physical.. So if u wan good life, please change ur mindset.. If u going to keep the 'bmt is gonna be a chalet', ur jus going to suffer... Ur commanders Shuld haf told u all such tings at the start of bmt ba.. There are alot of ridiculous tings thy ask u to do like give u little time to change from this to that den come down... U all can ask for time extensions... Unless ur sgt Dam gl, dun wan give, then suck thumb lor.

I noe I'm repeating this, but if u going to remain like his and haf this thinking, not only u will suffer.. Ur buddy, section, platoon will suffer.. Cuz u will tink everything they ask u to do is ridiculous, den u won't wan to do, den u pull every1 down.. Whoever u complain to abt this, u will get the same answers 1.. Its ur mindset

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Mmm... I need opinions.. :| My encik just asked me for sex.. What to do.. >~<
Seriously? dafuq~ and did anything happen?
Yea. Sry about the confusion. Primary role: guardsman, secondary role: lifeguard
Ahhh I didn't know guardsman have to had a secondary role as a lifeguard. So as in river crossing if your friend were to drown and you gotta save him in your FBO as well?
wow that sucks >< but hope to see you soon~ not that soon anyway >< see u at city march! 2012
seriously!? MDC?
yeeeeaaaah! ST service here Haha!
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Omgosh im out of confinement. Tekong was really a nightmare for me, and I have 5 weeks to go before i officially get the hell off this island. Im PES B2L3, and I seriously thought that it would be like a chalet with some regimentation and discipline cos we cant be in the frontline of battle anyways. My PCs and Section Commanders were nice to us (dont know whether its cos of confinement reasons) at the individual level. But then they will not hesitate to screw us upside down even if we are late to fall-in by only 3 mins (ridiculous things which i wont get). I shall decline to comment much on the sergeants, except that they are generally nice with severe temper issues. To my horror, i got screamed at for not tucking in my CIVILIAN shirt during my enlistment day. Then once we were at coyline, all the vulgarities and cheebyes and nabeis start spewing out. We were also made to sit and stand until we could do it fast enough. I cant really stand people shouting at me non-stop for really minor things, and then go on to tell me to suck thumb "cos this is the Army". Example: on our first bookout day, my platoon forgot to do area cleaning in the morning (dont see how its gonna help much in battle). The fxxking that we got later ... 30 counts of 4 jumping jacks. Then the ludicrous timings given ... like 7 mins to change from admin attire to full battle order. Confinement was really hell for me. I miss my civilian life and my parents. I haven exactly gotten pushups for punishment (icant do a standard one by the way ... not even 1) But its a sad and depressing mental game. Next up would be field camp, and I have heard more stories of how its more of a tekan camp with push ups in FBO, sgts stunning your rifle, high kneeling everywhere. So can anyone tell me how to deal with BMT other than to just suck it up? Like anything? Or how to deal with field camp?( i need to pass this to graduate so i have to know what to expect)
I'm lazy to cut your paragraph but B2L3 and already complaining? No offence but you are the kind that make most Singaporean thinks the entire army is weak. C'mon!

3 mins late in the army is ALOT. Tried having your sgt doing 10 push up per seconds? they are only screaming at you whereas we do punishments bit by bit. (due to certain training GOM) -.- Yes you don't fight in the front-line, neither do I. but imagine you as a storeman, a war needs ammunition and you are late by 3 min. Kinda get the point?

FBO in 7 mins changing from admin? i honestly think your coy is kinda cool. back then in my BMT, my sgt wants us to change from admin to FBO 5 mins. I'm from plt 4 which means im at the highest floor.

Ever tried helm in 1 training shed, ILBV in another, field pack in another, my 'wife' in my locker. Try gathering all the items in 5 mins and fall in.(Note the training sheds are all far apart) That's call "out to tekkan"

Just a word of advice.

You really need to change your mindset else time is gonna pass real slow and torturing. I'm not gonna ask you to suck it up just cause this is the army. Perhaps just following instruction and work fast might get you out of trouble. And I mean EVERYONE in the platoon that is.

The famous quote "one for all, all for one"

From Taurus! Woohoo!
Hush! gonna ord soon and still telling others where you are from 2 years ago.
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Omgosh im out of confinement. Tekong was really a nightmare for me, and I have 5 weeks to go before i officially get the hell off this island. Im PES B2L3, and I seriously thought that it would be like a chalet with some regimentation and discipline cos we cant be in the frontline of battle anyways.

My PCs and Section Commanders were nice to us (dont know whether its cos of confinement reasons) at the individual level. But then they will not hesitate to screw us upside down even if we are late to fall-in by only 3 mins (ridiculous things which i wont get). I shall decline to comment much on the sergeants, except that they are generally nice with severe temper issues.

To my horror, i got screamed at for not tucking in my CIVILIAN shirt during my enlistment day. Then once we were at coyline, all the vulgarities and cheebyes and nabeis start spewing out.

We were also made to sit and stand until we could do it fast enough.

I cant really stand people shouting at me non-stop for really minor things, and then go on to tell me to suck thumb "cos this is the Army". Example: on our first bookout day, my platoon forgot to do area cleaning in the morning (dont see how its gonna help much in battle). The fxxking that we got later ... 30 counts of 4 jumping jacks. Then the ludicrous timings given ... like 7 mins to change from admin attire to full battle order.

Confinement was really hell for me. I miss my civilian life and my parents. I haven exactly gotten pushups for punishment (icant do a standard one by the way ... not even 1) But its a sad and depressing mental game. Next up would be field camp, and I have heard more stories of how its more of a tekan camp with push ups in FBO, sgts stunning your rifle, high kneeling everywhere. So can anyone tell me how to deal with BMT other than to just suck it up? Like anything? Or how to deal with field camp?( i need to pass this to graduate so i have to know what to expect)

well i guess everyone has said their piece. and here's my take:

1. Timings. As everyone mentioned before, timings are important. a few minutes might seem trivial at an individual level, but the SAF is all about the grand scheme of things. If every individual delays by a minute, this will result in a snowballing of hours lost. Besides, with the integration of the different formations and services, attack and defense requires coordination, sometimes to the exact second. I'm sorry, but missing the mark by 3 minutes is too much. Ask anyone who has been through BMT. 3 minutes is unforgiveable. I remember once when the entire camp was involved in a Total Defence activity. Immediately after the talk, while everyone headed to the reception, my course commander gave us 20minutes to prep for lesson. That effectively meant that 7 minutes to change from No. 3 to No. 4 was a luxury. (we had to run back to bunk, change, run to our eq storage area and carry them to the training ground)

2. Discipline. Area cleaning in the morning? Yeah ridiculous. What does it do? Heck, I don't even make my own bed in the morning. But that's cause i'm ill-disciplined (well at home anyway). Discipline plays a huge role in being a soldier. It's a core value even, not sure if you even stopped to realise that. If you were outfield and you lack the discipline to clean up after yourself, you're in for a ride my friend. Besides, keeping your bunk clean will help in keeping sickness at bay. Somewhat. You're in an environment with new stress factors introduced in your life, one person needs to fall sick, before the entire company starts hacking away in the LT. Tekong cough sounds familiar eh? Besides, why not take this opportunity to foster some bonds. I remember washing the toilet with my coursemates back in OCS. well there were about 15 of us. and it was a speedy job. but we had tons of fun doing it.

3. Fitness. Yeah, your fitness level is not optimal. Could be attributed to your health problems. But if you're given pushups as punishment, then i suppose it's not an upper limb issue. It's ok to not be able to do a standard push up. I couldn't do a single chin up when i enlisted. i left OCS with a personal record of 23 chin ups. barely the median number in my course, but it's still a number i'm proud of. every single punishment you do, will contribute to that moment you do a standard push up. and you won't look back. as my course commander used to say, "pain is good. it's how you know you're still alive". and i'm sorry you got 30 counts of 4 JJs. you should've gotten 30 counts of 4 pushups. and more.

4. Mindset. It's not uncommon to complain about tough training. But let's not forget that war is very real. We are a sheltered and protected nation. We've enjoyed peace for many years. But that doesn't mean we should be complacent. The peace we enjoy every day comes from the tough training we go through. It serves as a deterrence to our threats. Besides, we train hard to fight easy. Correct me if i'm wrong, but this would be OCS Hotel Wing Comd's mantra? If we don't train as we'd fight, then we'll only be on the losing end should we move out for war.

I know you miss home, your family, your friends, your time, and your freedom. But I hope you treasure them more. And treasuring them means working hard in ensuring their happiness.

I enjoyed my 2 years in NS. and I loved BMT. might be cause it's not the toughest coy out there. But i'd like to think that it's mostly cos i allowed myself to go with the flow, take whatever that comes, and look on the bright side. i'm not a born optimist, but i gave myself something to look forward to.

A senior once told me to just look forward to each meal. breakfast. lunch. dinner. night snack, if any. soon you'll be looking forward to book outs. and then whatever milestone that comes. 2 years is short, BMT even more so. Really, just enjoy. Because if you don't, then the 2 years is truly a waste of your youth.

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