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And one amusing thing is he was disappointed just bcos he couldn't get his FREE ice cream. I'm like...WTH!!!

And yeah, perhaps abang shouldn't attend next year's pink dot.

 

btw, every bwer has right to voice out his feelings.

perhaps abang really encountered sth bad, like too warm weather, perspiring, etc.

He nevertheless never deserve such poisonous comments from u.

 

see any mediacorp star attending pink dot?

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just by looking at the video, the place does look really cramped and hot as everyone is fanning themselves. reminds me of the class 95 movie at the park at fort canning. not very ideal.

 

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Why is the pink dot in front of the fear "creature"?

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btw, every bwer has right to voice out his feelings.

perhaps abang really encountered sth bad, like too warm weather, perspiring, etc.

He nevertheless never deserve such poisonous comments from u.

 

see any mediacorp star attending pink dot?

Agree, actually I was also relatively disappointed. They ran out of drinks, and I didn't get the pink torchlight.

 

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So you always like to be a crying baby here. You must acknowledge your limitation; at your ripe old age still bunking with your parents and also you don't pay any income tax because you are a job hopper. Stop your complaint it will do you good in this forum.

Shut the CB mouths

. .I am merely stating my disappointment with the programming and the ice cream was for that boy, not me!

 

Once again you got the facts wrong, I paid more tax than you...there are always other sources of income, silly boy!

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hey anyone know who is the guy wearing the full pink-beige coloured shirt holding some yellow round thing, in this pic?

 

yes he is damn cute please >.<

Fattie bom bom walk down the street

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Seriously, sometimes I question the very motive and understanding of this 'pink dot' thing.

 

You can 'meet up', hang out' and 'group in' for all you want.

 

But at page 12, I see the news of our police rejecting the request for closure of the road. Seriously? Am I reading it correct?

 

So where would this go? Road closure this year? Then next year 'march down to Orchard'? Then later evolve and become a 'carnival-road march' like in Pattaya or Brazil, with floats and fireworks?

 

Please, the last thing I want is to see something got out of hands, stirred up and made chaotic by some 'opportunists', who are NOT into the welfare of the gays, but just want to make the so-called 'boring' Singapore a little noisier?

 

And as far as the motive as concerned, I have my concern: I am a single myself, and I daresay, SINGLES are being penalized much more than being 'gay'.

 

Do you even see any law being stipulated against 'gay', beside the elusive 'Sec. 377a'? No? Of course, our draconian government HAS already admitted that this law will NOT be activated, so long as no two men are found to be conducting into some 'intimate' acts in PUBLIC PLACE.

 

Thus we do not read, see or hear 'gays being charged for having sex in their homes', but we DO read about news about men being charged for 'indecent acts' in public toilets.

 

And IF our government does relent and remove this law, again my question: what's next? To legislate a law to approve 'same-sex marriage', which I totally suspect the whole movement is going toward?

 

And would that help Singapore, given our already-low population?

 

Like I said, SINGLES are penalized openly and blatantly by LAW - I pay every single cent of tax, and yet I can't even buy a frking new flat, albeit the miserable 2-room, which is just better than a monkey cage.

 

So before things got out of hand here in Singapore, a country that I love, I say: this Pink Dot thing better be controlled and toned down, before it gets too large and cumbersome to be maneuvered till the point of losing control.

 

'cause THAT will be the saddest for Singapore, not because police steps in to 'crack down', but this event/ movement halting and disrupting the peace and stability of Singapore when it got too big and spills over to other parts of the island.

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hey anyone know who is the guy wearing the full pink-beige coloured shirt holding some yellow round thing, in this pic?

 

hmm looks like you le. u not self advertising hor? :rolleyes:

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the yahoo comments are quite bad.....

 

would be bad if most straight singaporeans really think like that.....they might speak the truth online instead of hiding behind a mask when face to face with you....somemore lots of people visit yahoo daily....

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So you always like to be a crying baby here. You must acknowledge your limitation; at your ripe old age still bunking with your parents and also you don't pay any income tax because you are a job hopper. Stop your complaint it will do you good in this forum.

 

thats quite a personal attack right. not everyone has rich parents like you and can afford to move out, some of us need to take care of our aging parents dude.

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btw, every bwer has right to voice out his feelings.

perhaps abang really encountered sth bad, like too warm weather, perspiring, etc.

He nevertheless never deserve such poisonous comments from u.

 

see any mediacorp star attending pink dot?

 

Got

spor Bryan Wong, CHW, Thomas Ong,  xie shaoguangetc.

 

Use yr brain. u want them career suicide?

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From the comments..

1. The parents who so called protecting their children from bad influence of lgbt culture, didnt realize that they r the ones contributing to the discrimination and hatred towards the minority. No one can decide if their children will be gay, but they hv the power to create more accepting society if their children turn out to be one.

On a higher perspective, it is about discrimination, lgbt might be fully accepted in the next generation. But discrimination towards another group of minority might appear. And their children could become the minority. We had inequality towards race, slavery, and gender in the past generations.

2. When they comment about the 'dirty' sex gay ppl r having, they didtn realize that it is their mind that is dirty. No one perform any sex act in front of them, it is their mind imagining thinggs that make them feel uncomfortable or perhaps slightly aroused but feel judgmental towards their own feeling.

3. For those who claimed so confidently it is a choice to be gay, the only reason is that they have made the choice - suppressing their nature to choose to be straight.

 

Raising visibility and educating the masses are not the same wor. Your reply merges the two with no basis for doing so.

 

Visibility alone does not correct stereotypes or misconceptions. Or are you trying to tell me just because you gain visibility homophobia instantly disappears?

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Shut the CB mouths

. .I am merely stating my disappointment with the programming and the ice cream was for that boy, not me!

 

Once again you got the facts wrong, I paid more tax than you...there are always other sources of income, silly boy!

 

Don't you realize by now they don't want to hear negative comments?

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yes he is damn cute please >.<

Indeed very cute, he has the look n body. Actually the are many cute guys at pink dot lar, tis makes str8 pple wonder how come gays mostly are cute?! Haha.

对自己好是一种幸福,

对别人好是一种积福。

 

Spend time counting your blessings,

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Raising visibility and educating the masses are not the same wor. Your reply merges the two with no basis for doing so.

Visibility alone does not correct stereotypes or misconceptions. Or are you trying to tell me just because you gain visibility homophobia instantly disappears?

Discrimination is due to lack of awareness and fear for the unknown. if the support for lgbt grows even among the straight ppl, those homophobic ones will realize that more ppl r turning towards acceptance..soon or later they will have doubt about their belief.

If u read the comments on yahoo articles, some didn't want to accept that 20k of locals at pink dot by claiming those present were foreigners. It is the herd mentality especially their belief is based on shaking ground...they need other ppl support to substantiate their claim based on the loudest voice not facts and logic. It is actually quite natural for them to think this way based on how they reason things.

From the rate things are going round the world, soon those who discriminate will become minority, and be dicriminated.

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on a side note, 

 

anyone noticed the expressions on the public's faces when people in pink flooded places nearby, i.e maxwell food court?

 

raising awareness as an agenda aside, i personally think we really did shock some people. especially with the horde of people in pink and those who, no offence, cross-dressed and chirping away loudly. people were wondering what exactly just happened. heard a couple asking if "there was an ahgua show nearby".

Many pple simply wonder how come there are so many pink flooded places nearby. I saw one service crew at one of the eatery inside chinatown pt was standing at the door n called pple who were wearing pink walking past, by shouting 'pink color, came in n eat', the tone of tht person seems like "making fun" of the pple. Cld be tht guy know tis is a gay event?!

对自己好是一种幸福,

对别人好是一种积福。

 

Spend time counting your blessings,

not airing your complaints.

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Many pple simply wonder how come there are so many pink flooded places nearby. I saw one service crew at one of the eatery inside chinatown pt was standing at the door n called pple who were wearing pink walking past, by shouting 'pink color, came in n eat', the tone of tht person seems like "making fun" of the pple. Cld be tht guy know tis is a gay event?!

 

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hey anyone know who is the guy wearing the full pink-beige coloured shirt holding some yellow round thing, in this pic?

 

Some of the late 70s and early 80s should know him. 

 

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you guys can help by thumbing down those negative comments made by bigots and haters in yahoo 

 

whats the use? you can clearly see the green thumb-ups largely outnumbered the red thumb-downs.

 

too much negative news of gay molesters, HIV and drug abusers.... :yuk:

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Some of the late 70s and early 80s should know him. 

 

Freedom is not free; it is attained with increased constitution and/or self-responsibility.

so he's in his 30's huh

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Many pple simply wonder how come there are so many pink flooded places nearby. I saw one service crew at one of the eatery inside chinatown pt was standing at the door n called pple who were wearing pink walking past, by shouting 'pink color, came in n eat', the tone of tht person seems like "making fun" of the pple. Cld be tht guy know tis is a gay event?!

 

I was rather amused when I entered Chinatown Point and walked past the said eatery. The guy said the same thing when he saw my group "Pink colour, come come!" Didn't occur to me at that point in time that he was making fun of us (or maybe he did!?), cos sounded more like he was trying to get biz.

 

Anyway, it was quite a nice sight to see the place flooded with pink... haha...

 

My friends and I ended up eating at the same eatery as there were long Q at other restaurants. :P

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Discrimination is due to lack of awareness and fear for the unknown. if the support for lgbt grows even among the straight ppl, those homophobic ones will realize that more ppl r turning towards acceptance..soon or later they will have doubt about their belief.

If u read the comments on yahoo articles, some didn't want to accept that 20k of locals at pink dot by claiming those present were foreigners. It is the herd mentality especially their belief is based on shaking ground...they need other ppl support to substantiate their claim based on the loudest voice not facts and logic. It is actually quite natural for them to think this way based on how they reason things.

From the rate things are going round the world, soon those who discriminate will become minority, and be dicriminated.

 

Discrimination is lack of education and understanding - so "fear of the unknown", yes, awareness no. Being aware of someone who is gay does not automatically remove his/her prejudices.

 

Point is - Raising visibility does not reduce discrimination. There are areas where visibility helps, this is not one of them. To change someone's mindset requires substantial interaction with said person - wearing pink enmasse does not bring about that end.

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Yes there were some very.... flamboyant people, so what? If you feel uncomfortable, fine. We cannot like everyone everywhere all the time here. Just let them be. :)

 

But seriously, walking around all wearing pink in my group (12 people) from HLP to Boat Quay for dinner did not raise any weird looks or comments or whatever. Passing in front of those "very straight" joints (snooker place, ktv, bars) was fun. They just watched us pass by, some smiled (and no, it's not a mocking smile), some asked us what was going on, etc...

At the restaurant in Boat Quay, all the waiters and waitresses asked us where we came from and what was all think pink thing and seemed curious about it. And that is all the point about it.

 

I do understand that some people might not feel comfortable about wearing pink and labeling themselves as gay but that's why so many straight couples, kids, grandparents were also there to support their relatives and friends. How many straight couples were walking away from HLP in pink, with their kids and all. I think it is also reassuring and heart warming to see so many straight people participate and support "us". From time to time, you need this one special day just to remind ourselves "we are not alone". Yes because being LGBT is not easy every day so a little support doesn't hurt. 

 

And regarding the comment

 

 

And IF our government does relent and remove this law, again my question: what's next? To legislate a law to approve 'same-sex marriage', which I totally suspect the whole movement is going toward?

 

And would that help Singapore, given our already-low population?

 

:blink: :blink:

 

What's wrong with same sex marriage? I know you're single and maybe it's by choice, but if one day you meet that special someone you want to spend the rest of your life with, don't you wish you could register (if sames sex "marriage" is a word that bothers you....) in order to enjoy the exact same rights as a straight couple?

You talk about buying a place as a single person. What about a gay couple, under 35, who wish to buy a place together? What about laws protecting successions? Not sure about the word here but I'm referring to material, real estate, money that should legally come down to your partner if you were straight but that you lose if you're a gay couple?

Another point is hospital visits: so many gay couples cannot visit their partners in a hospital in cases of serious illnesses or terminal stages because it's for "close relatives only"?

 

The list goes one.

I am not considering myself an activist but I still do consider these rights as universal and should not discriminate anyone in any ways.

 

Of course there's still a long way to go in Asia and that's why things still need to be done.

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http://therealsingapore.com/content/pink-dot-losing-focus

 

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PINK DOT LOSING FOCUS

 

This year's Pink Dot celebration came and left. Many pro-LGBTs felt it was an auspicious occasion. Many conservatives felt this is getting too far. But for the majority of Singaporeans, it is a non-issue and a non-affair.

 

As an observer of Pink Dot celebration the last few years, I can say that Pink Dot has lost its original focus. Isn't this event supposed to be an awareness programme to help Singaporeans accept that there are gay people? So what's all this feel-good celebration that has nothing to do with the cause?

 

The above is like Christmas becoming so commercialised, many Christian conservatives are brooding on the fact that the real spirit of Christian Christmas is no longer around. 

 

At the rate Pink Dot is going, in a few years' time we would have about a hundred thousand people supporting the Pink Dot event, having a good time partying, but hardly anyone would give a thought or two that LGBTs are fighting for their rights. 

 

Oh well. If that is the case, the conservatives won't have to worry too much about Pink Dot, would they?

 

 

Note the feel-good, let's-party, dance-till-we-drop atmosphere. Whatever happened to the theme gay rights activists are campaigning for like the repeal of S377A? 

 

No diff from how about almost everyone celebrates Christmas partying, with no thought of a special baby boy was born to deliver a message, no?

 

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PS - Many Christians do not realise that the 25 Dec celebrated as Christmas has pagan origins. 2000 years ago or so when many civilizations in Europe worshiped the sun, 25 Dec was seen as the turning point. The shortest daylight was on 24 Dec. 25 Dec was hence celebrated as the "return of the sun god". When Europe was Christianized, they could not let go their pagan practices.

 

PPS - I predict that in a few years' time when many straights have been "converted" to celebrate Pink Dot, they too would not let go their straight practices either, ie they won't give two hoots about LGBT ideals. They'll just continue partying.

 

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Discrimination is lack of education and understanding - so "fear of the unknown", yes, awareness no. Being aware of someone who is gay does not automatically remove his/her prejudices.

Point is - Raising visibility does not reduce discrimination. There are areas where visibility helps, this is not one of them. To change someone's mindset requires substantial interaction with said person - wearing pink enmasse does not bring about that end.

Awareness I referred to is about the correct understanding on lgbt..especially the misconception of so many who still see it as a choice. Not really knowing a person's sexual orientation.

The visibility I see here helps in terms of how a society has grown towards acceptance, not exactly the visibility of individual at the event. Wearing pink at the event doesn't imply that your are lgbt, you could be a straight person there to support the cause.

It is not possible to change mindset immediately. It takes time. It takes time for someone to reconcile with his or her own sexuality. It takes time to gather the courage to be yourself and lead the life you want. It also takes time see the changes in the society and be open and accepting to differences in others.

There could have been other ways. But there is no perfect approach. nothing will change if there is no action.

There are ppl who still believe that the best way is remain status quo..do what you want behind closed door and dont flaunt your sexuality. But is this really fair and just? Every human deserves the respect for who he or she is. Why do they need to hide and live in fear just because they don't fit into the majority.

There are ppl who still use derogatory remarks on gays. This is what they learnt from the society of the last generation. The society today wants to change this misconception.

The world is changing. Ppl are demanding equality and justice. This is especially true for the younger generations. They are more vocal and will stand for the rights of their own and their fellow brothers and sisters.

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