Guest Grrrrrrr!!!! Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Guest Grrrrrrr!!!! said: Last time ban long hair, hippies, communists, now gay people. Why our regime so evil??? Churches - christianity, what a nonsense religion - should be banned instead! Our govt and local fundamentalist christians - one so lame, another so extreme! SO ANGRY!!! The last time i checked, Jesus had long hair - together with his message of free love for all - he is obviously a total hippie!!!!!!! Ban his religion!!!!! BAAANNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Companies like the ones who were supported Pink Dot had a history of showing their support to the LGBT community by participating in Pride events. Apple annually has a team who march and take part in the San Francisco Pride, so does Facebook, Google etc. Banks like Barclay's, Chase etc. all have supported LGBT events. They want to create a better world for their employees, whom they recognise to be a vital part of the company's success. I do not feel their participation is in any way an interference with Singapore politics. Their participation is more of showing support to their Singapore employees, not just the LGBT ones, the company's core values of inclusiveness and equality. barocco80, RyanH and mate69 3 Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neh Neh Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Why held such an event anyway? Just to prove that LGBT exists in Singapore where it is not acceptable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Acceptance Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Guest Neh Neh said: Why held such an event anyway? Just to prove that LGBT exists in Singapore where it is not acceptable? Bcos such event is to create awareness that all humans are equal and free to love. Just to prove that LGBT not only exist in Singapore and homophobic is pointless barocco80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 19 hours ago, Guest Neh Neh said: Why held such an event anyway? Just to prove that LGBT exists in Singapore where it is not acceptable? Because there are still people like u and me who are afraid of using our own name and identity to post a comment on a gay forum like this. ask yourself why do u fear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovehandle Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 On 6/8/2016 at 5:46 PM, Guest Neh Neh said: Why held such an event anyway? Just to prove that LGBT exists in Singapore where it is not acceptable? We all have to start somewhere. If everyone takes an attitude of why bother, then change is never going to happen. spr 1 Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 There are several parts to this event, asking for acceptance, showing that LGBT exist, protest. Pink Dot has lumped everything into one. So not many people really know that they are participating in a political protest and they innocently joined in. I think asking for acceptance is good. Showing people LGBT exist ? Really ? I think it's a marketing line, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest :-( Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 On 6/6/2016 at 1:59 PM, Guest Disgusted said: Nicholas lim. A "used to be" well known guy known to be so full of himself by others who had known him. He had a boyfriend who commited suicide by jumping. Read online he was so remorseful for having thrown tantrums at him beforehand. Of cos remorseful lah, boyfriend successfully commited suicide leh. Could be linked to his callous and bitchy diva attitude? his bf committed suicide? rip, what a sad gay story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groyn88 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) This is an excerpt of Google's video entitled, "Be who you are. Love who you love. #prideforeveryone" containing only the scenes from Pink Dot 2016 in Singapore. Edited June 25, 2016 by groyn88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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groyn88 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) Transcript: "Today I want to honor and appreciate all the straight allies amongst us. If you’re here because of a friend, sibling, child, parent, colleague, or maybe just because you believe in the freedom to love, then I just want to say a big THANK YOU! My best friend, Joan, has been one of the most amazing allies in my life and the reason I can be here today owning my story, is because of people like her and many others out there like you. Allies sometimes wonder if your voices really matter and I am here today to tell you a huge gigantic YES! I remember when I was younger and in the closet, I was afraid because I thought I was different and maybe I would never belong. But I started hearing the voices of straight allies around the world speaking up – people whom I didn’t know personally but their voices mattered. Their speaking up really helped me gain the courage to come out and own my story. That’s why I’m here today. So I wanted to say your presence here today and your voices matter. Speak out your beliefs and love with all your heart. I know it’s not always easy, even for allies. So thank you for putting yourselves, your careers, your reputations, your friends on the line to stand with us today. You cannot imagine the difference you are making in the life of an lgbt person who is wondering if he or she is worthy of love and belonging. Thank you for making a stand for love! To all of you who are LGBTQ, know that you are worthy of love and belonging, no matter what the world tells you. You are okay just as you are! As a woman, I especially want to give a shout out to all the women out there! “Courage is to tell the story of who you are with your whole heart.” (Brene Brown) So let’s tell our stories with our whole hearts! Whether you’re straight or queer, the world needs to hear our collective voices. The world needs to hear us make a stand for love! It’s time to let the world hear us roar!" Edited July 1, 2016 by groyn88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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heliumduck Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) PINKDOT get your act together leh ~~~~ whats this -- http://pinkdot.sg/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi ????!!!! in other news as you all may know about the news article -- http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/local-firms-throw-weight-dollars-behind-pink-dot Quote https://www.reddotforpinkdot.com/ Facebook Event Quote https://www.facebook.com/events/818918454914525/ 1 APRIL 2017 EDIt ITS BACK : https://pinkdot.sg/ Edited March 31, 2017 by heliumduck Yaoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pink Pong Ball Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 I hope they play Beauty and the Beast Song this coming PInkdot. Gay as old as Time True as it can be No one even care Than Christian intervent Deliberately.... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heliumduck Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Guest Pink Pong Ball said: I hope they play Beauty and the Beast Song this coming PInkdot. Gay as old as Time True as it can be No one even care Than Christian intervent Deliberately.... lol ha! #warnotice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Who is going to this year pink dot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boyfriend Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Probably with my boyfriend because I dont dare go alone. I've never been to previous years' so it would be a first-time experience for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyo74 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Who is going to this year pink dot? I go every year when i notice this event and many of my friends will join too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscurus Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 still a long way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ShakesHead Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 While it's a very obvious desperate attempt to guilt by association, why can't these guys organize their own private event on another day, and keep it to themselves?? https://singaporeaffairs.wordpress.com/2017/03/31/pink-dot-2017-the-sponsoring-of-sexual-depravity-extreme-perversity/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Buliaojie Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 These guys are actually the anti-pinkdot parties who wanted to bring down the Pinkdot event?? otherwise why so no brain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stay Calm Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Homophobes can choose to single out orgies to present why homophobia should be upheld but within our own community, shouldn't we be crystal clear that the purpose of Pink Dot is to establish equality among sexualities? I'm more than confident that heterosexual orgies exist in Singapore - does that mean we should get organised and talk about how amoral heterosexuality is? How about heterosexual rape? We don't have to sink to the level of hate groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hate? Prejudice? Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Guest Stay Calm said: Homophobes can choose to single out orgies to present why homophobia should be upheld but within our own community, shouldn't we be crystal clear that the purpose of Pink Dot is to establish equality among sexualities? I'm more than confident that heterosexual orgies exist in Singapore - does that mean we should get organised and talk about how amoral heterosexuality is? How about heterosexual rape? We don't have to sink to the level of hate groups. But aren't they flaunting it? But most people don't even realise they are operating on the principles of hate. It is so subtle and well-ingrained within our minds. We all desperately need re-education! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovehandle Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Guest ShakesHead said: While it's a very obvious desperate attempt to guilt by association, why can't these guys organize their own private event on another day, and keep it to themselves?? singaporeaffairs.wordpress.com/2017/03/31/pink-dot-2017-the-sponsoring-of-sexual-depravity-extreme-perversity/ Cut and paste into browser if you want to read the link. yes, I rem they organised this event.... the question is how did the rest know about it? King Pink held its group sex and BDSM orgy event for the first time at Parkroyal Hotel which is located just beside Hong Lim Park and how they even get the pics? I don't even rem seeing it at BW the person must be an insider, if not he will never be thinking of keywords like : bw, King Pink 2016 , sm etc (I m not saying SM or such activities are wrong as people in the straight word do that) I wish to know the reaction of the hotel who rented out the room to that hotel guest, we should be able to find the bw user who advertise this and I don't get it why is the tumblr website not in private mode?http://the-kingsg.tumblr.com/ Yaoi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I dun see what's wrong with bdsm and fetishes. Why is there a need to hide, why can't kingsg organize their events on the same day as pinkdot? Straight people dun have bdsm, bondage and even rape and incest fetishes meh? Come on lah, the article is obviously written by the wear white scums with all the rehashed arguments against lgbts. Whatever we do, or don't do, they'll still hate us and find excuses to persecute us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lai siu chiu Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, Vometra said: I dun see what's wrong with bdsm and fetishes. Why is there a need to hide, why can't kingsg organize their events on the same day as pinkdot? Straight people dun have bdsm, bondage and even rape and incest fetishes meh? Come on lah, the article is obviously written by the wear white scums with all the rehashed arguments against lgbts. Whatever we do, or don't do, they'll still hate us and find excuses to persecute us. Not trying to judge but you do realise this is not just sm, but also an sm orgy, rite...? It's definitely very out there but also a good exercise for understanding diversity in practise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Checked out the blog. Lots of bondage, mummification stuff. Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Not feeling well Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 On 01/04/2017 at 2:42 PM, Guest Buliaojie said: These guys are actually the anti-pinkdot parties who wanted to bring down the Pinkdot event?? otherwise why so no brain? Their agenda is clear, probably staged for the purpose of tarnishing pinkdot, everyone have their choice to do what they wanted after pinkdot and it has nothing to do with part of the pinkdot event. I fear our msm will add salt & vinegar if they see those pictures. Our newspaper and govt have never been friendly towards the LGBT community and we don't want them to use SGKing event as excuse to perscute the whole LGBT community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemnes Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 wat the hell did i just read... in line with what love handle said, this guy is most likely an insider, or a super homophobe who digs every gay news. The blog is called "Singapore Affairs" (https://singaporeaffairs.wordpress.com) but its just a disguise for "anti-gay, anti-pinkdot and anti homosexuality write-ups from a hypocrite homosexual insider/homophobe." Just take a simple scroll through and you can see all the articles written anonymously to bash pink dot and give the community a bad name. shameful person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mummified Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 All those mummification are so disgusting and a turn-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azuchan Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Dear members and guests Someone from the Wear White campaign has infiltrated this forums to gather information about our private gatherings. He/she has used this information against us and is trying to paint ourselves in very bad light. We are being portrayed as depraved, debauched, perverse, etc., while fighting for equality. The link attached is evidence of this: https://singaporeaffairs.wordpress.com/2017/03/31/pink-dot-2017-the-sponsoring-of-sexual-depravity-extreme-perversity/ Kindly make sure you exercise the utmost discretion when organizing such events. This platform has been invaded by entities who want to harm us as members of the LGBTQ+ community. The safe space we are creating for ourselves online is under attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eujiboo Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 On 4/1/2017 at 10:48 PM, Guest Lai siu chiu said: Not trying to judge but you do realise this is not just sm, but also an sm orgy, rite...? It's definitely very out there but also a good exercise for understanding diversity in practise! "Not just SM but SM orgies", I still don't see anything wrong with that. If the members are consensual and everyone's in a safe environment, I don't see what there is a need to call for attention. Everyone has different fetishes that may not sit well with the general public, but in no way does it mean it is illegal or wrong. Vometra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Judgemental gays, oh the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_M Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 hours ago, azuchan said: Dear members and guests Someone from the Wear White campaign has infiltrated this forums to gather information about our private gatherings. He/she has used this information against us and is trying to paint ourselves in very bad light. We are being portrayed as depraved, debauched, perverse, etc., while fighting for equality. The link attached is evidence of this: https://singaporeaffairs.wordpress.com/2017/03/31/pink-dot-2017-the-sponsoring-of-sexual-depravity-extreme-perversity/ Kindly make sure you exercise the utmost discretion when organizing such events. This platform has been invaded by entities who want to harm us as members of the LGBTQ+ community. The safe space we are creating for ourselves online is under attack. Blowing Wind is a public forum which can be googled. I have been telling people this, all these years. The Wear White campaign DID NOT infiltrate this forum, they only need to google and all your shit will be shown to the world. So who was the person who allowed them to use what was posted then? Are you so ignorant not to know that Blowing Wind is public forum? All of what you guys posted; be it orgies, personals, your profile pictures, your fetishes, etc. ALL can been SEEN. They only need to GOOGLE! Quote http://www.facebook.com/gachimuchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Aiyoh please lah people, it's just another thinly disguised homophobic article written by the wear white scums, there's no need to trip over yourselves and get your g-string/thong in a knot. Not the first, and won't be the last. Even if there are no bdsm orgies or other weird fetishes, they will still go after the latest pedophile or toilet cruiser. Really, the straight majority dun give a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Observer Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 15 hours ago, Guest Not feeling well said: Their agenda is clear, probably staged for the purpose of tarnishing pinkdot, everyone have their choice to do what they wanted after pinkdot and it has nothing to do with part of the pinkdot event. I fear our msm will add salt & vinegar if they see those pictures. Our newspaper and govt have never been friendly towards the LGBT community and we don't want them to use SGKing event as excuse to perscute the whole LGBT community. actually you are right. one look at the bdsm guys and it is so obvious they are out to ruin pinkdot. it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. do it privately la, why must take photos and add pinkdot's name ah? very purposely leh. inside confirm got people anti pinkdot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapplejacked2 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 That site is pretty much an echo-chamber, preaching to the choir type. I wouldn't be overly concerned over a group that would be laughed off by most other progressive groups. Come take a swipe. Take a jab. Parade for all to see. Let me be your walking freakshow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaze Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Funny.. TS, if u have so much fear, then don't post anything.. in the first place, we ought to have responsibility for our actions.. many things to comment (posted in general, not against you solely) 1) fear of your content being used against you - why post those things if such fear exist? 2) fear of being identified in real life - why use a nick that implicates you in the first place? 3) fear of your pic being posted - why agree to join such event knowing pictures will be taken. 4) join but don't know beforehand pics will be taken - why not speak to the photographer and ask for your pic to be deleted? I'm pretty sure every1 here is not a kid.. even so, they shouldn't be ignorant about such things.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azuchan Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just to clarify: I am a registered member of BW. I did not post those content. I am merely advising and reminding everyone to be a whole lot more discreet and discrete in posting anything anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shy to expose anything Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, azuchan said: Just to clarify: I am a registered member of BW. I did not post those content. I am merely advising and reminding everyone to be a whole lot more discreet and discrete in posting anything anywhere. Your erected dick is indeed from discrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Guest Observer said: actually you are right. one look at the bdsm guys and it is so obvious they are out to ruin pinkdot. it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. do it privately la, why must take photos and add pinkdot's name ah? very purposely leh. inside confirm got people anti pinkdot. Probably set up by the same guy, who was slightly slapped by our govt, for posting on his fb page for wanting to shoot the LGBT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Who Is this stupid King Pink and what is he trying to do? He's just making us more misunderstood by the hate groups ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Priorities Right Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 One can sense that the writer(s) in the blog singaporeaffairs is full of hate. Add in a large dose of legal training, resentment of being excluded from the pink circle or unrequited plu love and he/she is trying to damage the progress of our society as a whole. How? By the common method used by colonialists and their subsequent native stooges of divide and rule. Yes, by making the rest of Singaporeans hate another subgroup, there are lots of money to be made. Also, the writer must be quite a social prude = ,easily alarmed by those photos which are not in the least offensive, kinky and extreme - a trait of those self righteous multi billionnaire / political families disgusted with mixing with the rest of the poor population and think they are Heaven's little Archangels until they find out and then hypocritcally hush hush the sordid affairs of their circle. To end, if the blog author is really concerned about parents caring about the future of their children, then why in the whole wide world not raise the bigger and more critical issue that with the influx of foreigners taking over the jobs and local daddies and mummies may have a very high chance of losing their jobs and the whole family might just need to end their life on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bonfire Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 hours ago, snapplejacked2 said: That site is pretty much an echo-chamber, preaching to the choir type. I wouldn't be overly concerned over a group that would be laughed off by most other progressive groups. Come take a swipe. Take a jab. Parade for all to see. Let me be your walking freakshow. I totally agree with you. Things written in the blog are merely stringing pieces of incidents or events together so as to preach their anti-gay message loudly. It is merely associative and irrational. It is definitely an F grade piece of exposition by any standards. Very absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eujiboo Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 As the GM said, I don't know why anyone can be so confused that information or pictures that are ON THE INTERNET can appear on different sites. BW itself isn't exactly a private "invite-only" forum, and the pictures used in that article were all taken from Tumblr. Whatever you post online, it stays online and basically anyone can access it. Be it if you want to post dick pics, people are still able to see them, just maybe not identify you via your username. Know what you're posting and don't suddenly get scared that non-BW members might see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groyn88 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 This news clip was broadcast over Channel News Asia during their "Singapore Tonight" bulletin at 10 pm on Monday, 3 April 2017.http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/s... The Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) will move to prevent foreigners from advancing political causes in Singapore after the latest amendments to the Public Order Act, announced Minister K Shanmugam in Parliament on Monday (Apr 3). The Commissioner of Police may now refuse to grant a permit for public assembly or procession - if it is directed towards a political end and organised by or involving non-Singapore entities or citizens. “It has been the Government’s long-standing position that foreigners and foreign entities should not import foreign politics into Singapore; nor should they interfere in our domestic issues, especially those of a political or controversial nature,” said Mr Shanmugam. “This ensures that Singapore is not used as a platform by foreigners to further political causes, especially those that are controversial or divisive.” He asked: “Let’s say you have Malaysians financing an event in Singapore, encouraging Singaporeans to take part, which says shariah law ought to be imposed. Do you think we should agree? The answer is obvious, isn’t it?” “Our Singaporeans organising a protest is one thing. Foreign-financed, (or) participated protests are a completely different ball game.” Nominated Member of Parliament Kok Heng Leun later asked if the amendments would curtail "active citizenry" or participation in Singaporean civil society, but Mr Shanmugam said: “I wonder if we are moving like ships in the dark in the sea - the Bill says one thing and Mr Kok’s speech pretty much has nothing to do with the Bill.” He said he agreed with Mr Kok’s points, but that they had nothing to do with the amendments, which were targeted at foreign participation. “In fact, I’d say, have more faith in our citizens,” Mr Shanmugam added. “Don’t just hope for foreign involvement in organising events. Why don’t we have confidence that our own people can organise and take part in civic activities?” Said Mr Shanmugam: “Look at Pink Dot. Last year, my ministry made it clear we will not agree to foreign participation. As a government, we don’t take a position for or against Pink Dot, but we do take a position against foreign involvement. “The point is this is a matter for Singaporeans, Singapore companies, Singapore entities to discuss.” He added: “There was concern that when we say no to foreign sponsorship, for example for Pink Dot, it will have an impact on the event. But as you see, based on media reports, Singaporean sponsors are stepping up. “Have confidence in Singaporeans. Don’t think you can only do well by getting money from foreigners and getting foreign participation in.” DEFINING “POLITICAL ENDS” Mr Kok and MP Louis Ng also raised questions on whether the police commissioner would have the institutional competence to make decisions on the definition of “political ends”, and whether political neutrality would be compromised in the process. “Any attempt to define upfront a political or nonpolitical event will run into shades of complexity,” Mr Shanmugam responded. “All you will end up doing is creating alleyways and byways in which your definition will be made useless and you will be a made a laughing stock.” Therefore discretion has to be given to the executive - in this case, the Commissioner of Police, he said. “The alternative is to run to court for each time somebody is not happy and that is not the way you can run a proper government,” said Mr Shanmugam. “The way we run a government successfully and cleanly has been to vest discretion in many areas in executives, with the knowledge that our highly educated population will hold the executive to account if there is abuse of that power.” “In this context here we are specifically dealing with the Commissioner looking at an event and saying it is political involving foreigners. I don’t think Singaporeans will argue with this, in giving the Commissioner the discretion to make that assessment.” He added: “If the Commissioner declares an event to be political, that doesn’t make him political. He’s not deciding in favour of one conclusion or another. His is a threshold question - does it involve political ends?” “Our position is that we will make the decision. If we are wrong, we will take it on the chin and our people will know whether the decision is being exercised properly or improperly. And if we keep making decisions improperly, any government will face the consequences.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantonmee Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Don't think it's the end of the world There's always crowdfunding and other means for financing. Our community has the most creative peeps after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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