Guest guest Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 ASAS CHAIRMAN WHO MAKES DECISION ON PINK DOT ADVERT IS A CHRISTIAN, IS THERE CONFLICT OF INTEREST? Submitted by farhan on Fri, 09/06/2017 - 3:48pm <Facebook complaint by Ovidia Yu> I phoned ASAS to ask who had made the decision to demand Cathay remove their banner, given it does not violate any of the ICC guidelines. (see below) When I asked if no one in ASAS was aware how decisions were made, he said the chairman of ASAS has final say but that he could not give me his chairman's name. (I told him I had looked it up and could tell him who his chairman was if he didn't know. He then agreed that the ASAS Chairman is Prof Tan Sze Wee) The man on the phone (ASAS Tel: 6461 1888) said he could not say if the decision had been made in a meeting or if one person had made that decision, possibly after receiving a complaint from a personal friend or fellow member of the Barker Road Methodist Church where Prof Tan is a member. (remember what happened with the first Pink Picnic after Mary Loh reported to her church that she had been 'unwittingly invited'? BTW it wasn't an unwitting invitation, not from me at least. I had thought she was a friend. I was wrong and must say I'm starting to believe I can't trust people who call themselves 'Christians'. Especially not in positions of secular state authority where they enforce their church teachings on us.) He also did not deny that if I complained via email feedback as recommended, it would most likely be handled by administrative staff and not seen by decision makers/ the decision maker. Source: https://www.facebook.com/ovidia.yu/posts/10157426232509619 - More at AllSingaporeStuff.com https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/asas-chairman-who-makes-decision-pink-dot-advert-christian-there-conflict-interest FB: http://fb.com/allsgstuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 如果新加坡是一个能接受多种信仰的国家， 那为何又不能容许同志的presence？ 香港有平权，台湾有立法，新加坡有没有商讨的机会呢？ As there is racial harmony day in our schools, why cant we just have that wee bit to tolerance in our society? Why are we marginalise to the max for f..k sake? Banishing us from holding public gatherings will just drive us to form more underground movements - back to the 50s and 60s with the purging of communists...but this is already 2017. The world has moved on but sadly, we here in Singapore are still living in the long-forgotten era... Are we still a democratic society? Can I still proudly read aloud the pledge? Where is justice and equality? Where is my happiness? 老饼也没有多少时日了。。希望下一代人会真正得到应有的。。。对待！ *** We, the citizens of Singapore, pledge ourselves as one united people, regardless of race, language or religion, to build a democratic society, based on justice and equality, so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress for our nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auscent Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 The banner should read: Respect the rights of all. Cube3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Meet-devil Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, auscent said: The banner should read: Respect the rights of all. Those medieval gargoyles will comprain gay right is no human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePineapple Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) The banner thing reminds me of... Should those Advertisement on Fast-food - KFC etc - be taken down too ? as they promotes unhealthy eating ? hahaha those people in the group have brains that are too small. Edited June 9, 2017 by ThePineapple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 http://mothership.sg/2017/06/asas-advised-cathay-to-remove-pink-dot-slogan-as-it-may-affect-public-sensitivities/ "The promotion of event is permissible, but the statement was deemed to affect public sensitivities." Fark your public sensitivities lah. If it's not illegal then Cathay should just fark care ASAS which like CASE is a toothless tiger anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willie Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 15 hours ago, Guest Bonfire said: Is this still on? I realize that it would be better to go in this event after I got sick and having some sort of awakening. I think it is still on. I already signed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 http://www.marketing-interactive.com/cathay-and-pink-dot-respond-to-asas-demand-for-ad-amendment/ U gotta to love Cathay Please support Cathay! “Since making the statement, Cathay has received, and is grateful for the tremendous outpouring of positive support from the public through emails and social media. We hope that this positivity can be felt by all, and wish for greater acceptance and understanding amongst fellow Singaporeans,” the Cathay spokesperson said. Meanwhile both Cathay and Pink Dot are not budging and went on the offensive. Woohoo! "We cannot help but wonder if the council’s request arose out of complaints by a small group of people against Pink Dot who vociferously support the discrimination of Singapore’s LGBT community." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Once more, it shows that the so-called mainstream Singaporeans are NARROW-minded and cannot tolerate any form of "abnormalities" in their lives. We, the gay people, are definitely SMARTER, BRIGHTER and WEALTHIER than the average Joe (oops, Tans). They cannot compete with us on equal terms so they have to use HIGH-handed tactics to squash whatever we do... think Margaret Chan crushing cockroaches in Masters of the Sea..ha ha ha... This bout of publicity has generated more awareness of the coming event and putting an ad in a relatively youth-centric place is the right way to go. Heck the middle-aged stiff necked people, we want the younger generation to know more about acceptance of homosexuals in their society. They should learn how to live in harmony with us and not us with them, something we have been doing for donkey years. It is time for them to beef up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, abang said: Once more, it shows that the so-called mainstream Singaporeans are NARROW-minded and cannot tolerate any form of "abnormalities" in their lives. To be fair to these "mainstream Singaporeans", I dun think they are virulently homophobic. They dun really care about such issues and will just follow the "mainstream" sentiments (which is why I put the blame squarely on the gahment and the wear white scums for all the anti ajs propaganda). Talk to them nicely and reasonably, they will stand on our side. This has been shown in many countries that removed anti ajs laws or allow aj marriage; it's really a battle for the hearts and minds of the majority, who are reasonable people. The latest Pink Dot video also demonstrated that. Edited June 10, 2017 by Vometra spr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auscent Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Vometra said: To be fair to these "mainstream Singaporeans", I dun think they are virulently homophobic. Exactly. We can promote gay rights as human rights. Just like everyone from maids to foreign workers, from interns to rehired workers. Once universal values are ingrained, no need fight so hard for acceptance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terence Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 18/05/2017 at 3:56 PM, Guest Dave said: Hey guys, instead of discussing on who can attend this event, I would like to know if anyone might be interested coming together for a night of just 100% worship. Regardless of your age, your background, your church, your personality. There is no official or unoffical organization, church, company behind or related to this. No agenda or motive, just coming together to worship. A venue filled by you guys, a small band with a list of 10-15 of hillsong songs. I reckon on a Saturday night would be good. Let me know what you guys think! Cheers!!! "Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord," - Acts 3:19 How to tegister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shitty Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 19 hours ago, abang said: We, the citizens of Singapore, pledge ourselves as one united people, regardless of race, language or religion, to build a democratic society, based on justice and equality, so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress for our nation. You still believe in this shit after 55 years of your life? Wake up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NightOwl Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 05/06/2017 at 5:52 AM, Vometra said: Me! http://www.theindependent.sg/cathay-cineleisure-helps-advertise-pink-dot-2017/ What an abomination!!! Having this kind of event will not make our ancestors proud. I think this will be the start of the dowbfall of our beloved country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMan Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, Guest NightOwl said: What an abomination!!! Having this kind of event will not make our ancestors proud. I think this will be the start of the dowbfall of our beloved country. The true abomination is to choose to worship a foreign import deity instead of your own ancestor! Vometra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, MadMan said: The true abomination is to choose to worship a foreign import deity instead of your own ancestor! Aiyoh just ignore all these self loathing fags who basically just need a big cock up the ass. Why do u think they prostrate themselves before a authoritarian paternal figure and declare themselves sinful and unworthy? Typical submissive bottom slave mentality lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 http://mothership.sg/2017/06/cathay-cineleisure-puts-up-8-metre-long-pink-dot-ad-at-front-entrance/ "Cathay Cineleisure has overnight put up an 8-metre long, 2.5-metre high Pink Dot advertisement right smack at the front entrance of the mall." *bow down to Cathay* Cube3 and Hemnes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pinky Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 14 hours ago, Guest Willie said: I think it is still on. I already signed up You mean must sign up to attend Pink Dot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 http://mothership.sg/2017/06/cathay-cineleisure-puts-up-8-metre-long-pink-dot-ad-at-front-entrance/ Quote 鍾意就好，理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 I like to dedicate a song from 1967 to all those who spoke out loud against PINKDOT. The lyrics is so poetic and prophetic for this generation of lost souls.. "The Sound Of Silence" Hello darkness, my old friend I've come to talk with you again Because a vision softly creeping Left its seeds while I was sleeping And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of silence In restless dreams I walked alone Narrow streets of cobblestone ‘Neath the halo of a streetlamp I turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light That split the night And touched the sound of silence And in the naked light I saw Ten thousand people, maybe more People talking without speaking People hearing without listening People writing songs that voices never share No one dare Disturb the sound of silence “Fools” said I, “You do not know Silence like a cancer grows Hear my words that I might teach you Take my arms that I might reach you” But my words like silent raindrops fell And echoed in the wells of silence And the people bowed and prayed To the neon god they made And the sign flashed out its warning In the words that it was forming And the sign said “The words of the prophets Are written on the subway walls And tenement halls And whispered in the sounds of silence” Submit Corrections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, abang said: "The Sound Of Silence" Still amazing after all these years. Grew up listening to Simon & Garfunkel ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GachiMuchi Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Support the FREEDOM TO LOVE by grabbing a free Pink Dot SG decal, buying a Pinkie pin, keychain or plushies at the following locations! Limited number of Pinkie Pins, Pinkie Keychains and Pink Dot 2017 decals (free) will be stocked at the following stores: 1. Sharetea Singapore (歇脚亭) outlets in Bugis Junction, Jurong Point Shopping Center, Northpoint Shopping Centre, NUH, Parkway Parade, Wisma Atria and Woodlands MRT 2. Révolte in Suntec City and Wheelock Place 3. Actually in Orchard Gateway 4. The Authority in Orchard Gateway 5. Intermission Bar - at The Projector in Golden Mile Tower 6. Artistry at Jalan Pinang 7. Wunderloot will also be stocking all items online at http://www.wunderloot.com/product-tag/pink-dot-sg/ Note: Medium and Large Pinkie plushies will only be available at Locations 2 to 7 stated above. Quote http://gachimuchi2008.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iamziz Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Side track a bit trx86, shyc, Hemnes and 2 others 5 Quote ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 善待对人。麻烦用英文来表达信息。不是每个人都会看的懂中文 。| “People need to learn the art of making an argument. Often there is no right or wrong. It's just your opinion vs someone else's opinion. How you deliver that opinion could make the difference between opening a mind, changing an opinion or shutting the door. Sometimes folk just don't know when they've "argued" enough. Learn when to shut up." ― J'son M. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) Cathay Cineleisure puts up 8-metre long Pink Dot ad at front entrance June 10, 2017 Feisty. Nice. Belmont Lay Update, June 10, 2017, 4.30mpm: Pink Dot has informed Mothership.sg that the advertisement put up at the front entrance had been planned all along. The first ad was placed on the mall’s escalator and the roll out of the second ad was a scheduled event and proceeded as planned on Wednesday, June 7. It occurred after calls to report the first ad to the police and before the Advertising Standards Authority of Singapore (ASAS) and Cathay issued responses. Cathay has also issued a response: “We would like to clarify that the Pink Dot advertisement on the Cathay Cineleisure Orchard’s entrance door was up on Wednesday, one day prior to receiving the email from the ASAS. As mentioned, as Cathay is the ad platform provider, we have forwarded ASAS’s request to the Pink Dot organisers and will leave them with the final decision on the removal of the statement. Thank you.” Cathay Cineleisure has put up an 8-metre long, 2.5-metre high Pink Dot advertisement right smack at the front entrance of the mall. Here is what Cathay Cineleisure thinks of the calls for its Pink Dot ad to be reported to the police and the Advertising Standards Authority of Singapore (ASAS) advice to remove the “Supporting the freedom to love” slogan from its other Pink Dot ad stuck to the side of its escalator: This new massive ad also features the slogan, “Come support the freedom to love!” As to the question: “What is gayer than an escalator ad?” Well, 20-square-metres of Pink Dot advertising right in your faces, ASAS andWAAPD. Deal with it. Update: Pink Dot informed Mothership.sgthis second ad was rolled out as planned and not a response of any kind. Edited June 11, 2017 by fab Quote 鍾意就好，理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 9/6/2017 at 7:32 PM, Guest guest said: ASAS CHAIRMAN WHO MAKES DECISION ON PINK DOT ADVERT IS A CHRISTIAN, IS THERE CONFLICT OF INTEREST? Submitted by farhan on Fri, 09/06/2017 - 3:48pm <Facebook complaint by Ovidia Yu> I phoned ASAS to ask who had made the decision to demand Cathay remove their banner, given it does not violate any of the ICC guidelines. (see below) When I asked if no one in ASAS was aware how decisions were made, he said the chairman of ASAS has final say but that he could not give me his chairman's name. (I told him I had looked it up and could tell him who his chairman was if he didn't know. He then agreed that the ASAS Chairman is Prof Tan Sze Wee) The man on the phone (ASAS Tel: 6461 1888) said he could not say if the decision had been made in a meeting or if one person had made that decision, possibly after receiving a complaint from a personal friend or fellow member of the Barker Road Methodist Church where Prof Tan is a member. (remember what happened with the first Pink Picnic after Mary Loh reported to her church that she had been 'unwittingly invited'? BTW it wasn't an unwitting invitation, not from me at least. I had thought she was a friend. I was wrong and must say I'm starting to believe I can't trust people who call themselves 'Christians'. Especially not in positions of secular state authority where they enforce their church teachings on us.) He also did not deny that if I complained via email feedback as recommended, it would most likely be handled by administrative staff and not seen by decision makers/ the decision maker. Source: https://www.facebook.com/ovidia.yu/posts/10157426232509619 - More at AllSingaporeStuff.com https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/asas-chairman-who-makes-decision-pink-dot-advert-christian-there-conflict-interest FB: http://fb.com/allsgstuff And this Professor Tan Sze Wee is supposedly a high-level senior management in A*STAR too? An Executive Director there, commanding several thousands of supposedly forward-looking innovators with big dreams and ideas there? https://www.a-star.edu.sg/About-A-STAR/Corporate-Profile/Senior-Management/Prof-Tan-Sze-Wee.aspx If a person like that can agree to such backward-looking orders to demand Cathay to remove their banner, it is no wonder nothing forward-looking has ever came out under his leadership in A* Star, and the entire nation is still relying on cheap labour to move forward. Let's see what ASAS has to say of the advertisement in front of Cathay now. spr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) On 6/9/2017 at 7:08 PM, GachiMuchi said: Thousands of Singaporeans from all walks of life, who are easily influenced by things around them, have turned irreversibly gay. Roll off my chair when I read this.. If that is the case, will I, the Gay man in Potong Pasir, switch to become a heterosexual just because there is a church (St. Andrew's), an Indian Temple and lots of other religious activities advocating the need to procreate. Will I, of all people, suddenly wake up one morning and want to marry a char-bo..(Hokkien for Female, otherwise Trouble in English)? If there are hints of gay influence in our society, then what about those ads about Father's Day on TV? Will I be rushing out to wham-bang-thank you-madam? Super laughable and Siao (Hokkien slang for maddness and stupidity). I can't even bring myself to see a straight porn (even if the actors are hunky but not, most of the time, they look like social rejects) and will walking past lingerie department makes me want to take a woman to bed.. 我还没傻， 发疯到这个地步。。看看异性恋的爱情动作片就会变（本）质吗？ Edited June 11, 2017 by abang alignment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SAINT talking Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 According to the Bible, eating pork and shrimp is a SIN. ASAS should ban all NTUC advertisements from selling seafood. According to the Bible, borrowing is a SIN. ASAS should banned all BANKS from promoting credit cards and MAS should be a banned insitutitions. According to the Bibles, wearing cloth with mixed fabric is wrong. ASAS should banned all shops from selling cloths of mixed fabric. According to the Bible, eating leavened bread is a SIN, ASAS should bann all BREADS AND CAKES outlets in Singapore. They are unbiblical according to Christian. According to the bible, this govt is full of SIN for being a hypocrite. ASAS should convince all PAP ministers to step down and live a biblical life. tomcat and fab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Loo Soo Kiat Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 S'PORE GOVT ARE COWARDS FOR TRYING TO TAKE DOWN PINK DOT POSTER Submitted by farhan on Sun, 11/06/2017 - 11:55am Dear PM, DPM, Ministers, MPs, NMPS and Dr Tan, I write to you today with a heavy heart. I have been and always will be a Singaporean Son. Someone who has done his part to play a constructive role in society. Having done my duty to the country in the highest capacity that I could. However, something that I have learnt as of late is that my country will never stand by me. To it I am nothing more than an inconvenience. The unspeakable. Addressing me would be toxic. I am nothing more than a topic to be brushed under the carpet, to be hidden and forgotten. You see, I do not fit the mould of a typical Singaporean Son narrative. I am different. I am gay. I am a Gay Singaporean Son. As I write this, hidden in my room, I yearn for a different Singapore. A Singapore where my sexuality or gender plays no significance. Where I will not be discriminated by my own government and its regulatory bodies. However, I know that will never happen, not in my lifetime, because that is not in my hands. The people who can make a difference, people who are reading this letter, lack the courage to do what is right. I recall the late great MM Lee once said, and I quote conservatively, ‘…I cannot change them overnight. I think society, their own experiences, their own reading, their own observations, will bring about the change despite their innate biases.’ This was in response to a question of how conservatism opposes practical views when it comes to homosexuality. Over the past few years we have made progress in this issue, there is no denying. However, when regulatory bodies and laws stand in our way of progress, ready to hold us down to our conservative roots, what do we do? Lest we forget that these regulatory bodies only pander to the views of highly conservative individuals. These individuals whom are ready to strike out against change the moment they sense it coming. The government sets the stage for conversation and progress. What happens when the government chooses to take the easy way out and avoid the conversation? By acting behind the scenes to restraint progress in the name of conservatism? I believe the question I have on my mind is: Am I not worthy of conversation? Am I not worthy of progress? I cannot emphasis enough how hateful rhetoric and behaviour is propagated by the deafening silence and inaction of the government in halting discrimination in its track. You see, what rips families and societies apart is not the freedom for LGBT people to love openly, but the rejection of this freedom. The failure to recognize that they are only human. That they too love from the heart. I am utterly disappointed by the stand taken by the Advertising Standards Authority of Singapore in their feeble attempt to pander to the hateful by saying that, and I quote, “ ‘Supporting the freedom to love.’ which may affect public sensitivities due to the issues at hand”. Let’s not forget that Love does not breed hate. Hate breeds hate. Today, I will remember, that the government of Singapore and its regulatory body decided to stand on the side of hate. Nathan Tan- More at AllSingaporeStuff.com https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/spore-govt-are-cowards-trying-take-down-pink-dot-poster FB: http://fb.com/allsgstuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GachiMuchi Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) ASAS Chairman is member of gay-hate Facebook group June 11, 2017 Tan Sze Wee's FB It was recently reported that the Advertising Standards Authority of Singapore (ASAS) advised Cathay theatres to remove the statement “Supporting the freedom to love” from an advertisement for Pink Dot, displayed on an escalator in its Cineleisure shopping mall. Award-winning novelist, Ovidia Yu, said in her Facebook that when she called ASAS to ask about the advisory to Cathay, she was told that the ASAS chairman has the final say on making decisions in matters such as this. Ovidia Yu revealed that The ASAS Chairman, Tan Sze Wee, is a member of Barker Road Methodist Church. Mr Tan is the executive director of A*STAR’s Science and Engineering Council. His bio on A*STAR states that he volunteers with the Young Men’s Christian Association’s local chapter. A search in the Facebook group ‘We Are Against Pink Dot in Singapore’ (WAAPD) shows that Mr Tan is also a member of this group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/waapd/?order=&filter=&member_query=tan%20sze%20wee&view=members The group is the one which first raised objections to the theatre-chain displaying the advertisement. Edited June 11, 2017 by GachiMuchi Quote http://gachimuchi2008.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Petition Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 There's a petition which we can sign ... please support and spread the word. As citizens, we have the right to know the truth. https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/demand-for-explanation-from-advertising-standards-authority-of-singapore-with-regards-to-pink-dot-advertisement.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Wow....this would be like in ancient china...one person would hit the gong outside the city court, complaining about something....then quickly run inside from the backdoor, put on the judge's clothes, sit on the judge chair and pass judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I wonder why idiot members like Vometra and some other guests did not come out and say All Singapore Stuff and The Independent are shit stirring. Straits Times and Channel News Asia won't want to report all these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 that escalated quickly. if only there is a gay escalator, you ride and by the time reach the top, you are full blown fabulous. *joke only ah, in these tough times must be able to laugh, as well as retaliate* iamziz 1 Quote 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Otista Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 To be frank, all these non senses are rooted to the government inability to comprehend the issue. Almost unthinkable for a first-world's gov to deny basic human right with morality or religious reason. Most ministers have high educations, went to Harvard or Carnegie Melon, sure they should able to make a better decision than let's say China :). I have a strong believe, it's due to personal matter of the big boss who not comfortable with gay matter, probably due to past bad experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backward looking Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Once a fishing village, forever a fishing village. The fish stench will linger and stick around after 10000000 years, still. Not asking for the freedom to marry. And even if that, no one is forcing the Christians to marry us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GUEST Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I don't think it's personal, religion or bias. I don't think the LGBTs should hound on ASAS. It's just reflecting the conservative nature of Singapore. Going after ASAS will not do the LGBT here any good as the public will see it as going after them. A negative for the LGBT. Quote The survey also asked about attitudes towards homosexual relations. When it came to sexual relations between two adults of the same sex, 78.2 per cent of respondents said it was wrong. And 72.9 per cent did not agree with gay marriage. However, fewer disagreed with gay couples adopting a child, with 61 per cent saying it was wrong or almost always wrong. Taken from: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singaporeans-still-largely-conservative-ips-survey-finds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, Guest GUEST said: I don't think it's personal, religion or bias. I don't think the LGBTs should hound on ASAS. It's just reflecting the conservative nature of Singapore. Going after ASAS will not do the LGBT here any good as the public will see it as going after them. A negative for the LGBT. Quote The survey also asked about attitudes towards homosexual relations. When it came to sexual relations between two adults of the same sex, 78.2 per cent of respondents said it was wrong. And 72.9 per cent did not agree with gay marriage. However, fewer disagreed with gay couples adopting a child, with 61 per cent saying it was wrong or almost always wrong. Taken from: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singaporeans-still-largely-conservative-ips-survey-finds Is this a matter of "the chicken or the egg"? Do policies change to reflect the readiness of the people, or are people the ones to change policies and governing laws? One example, if Abraham Lincoln did not campaign for the rights of the black slaves, and became the first to free his own slaves, probably African Americans today will still be owned. Abraham abolished this policy and practice, and started right in the deep south, where many racists and white supremacists can still be found today. He was met with death threats, people who threatened to topple his seat as President etc, but he fought for what was right and fair. Another example, the Sufragette movement also was met with a lot of violence. But all it stood and fought for, was the right for a woman to vote, for her collective voice to be heard. In both cases, the people were not ready. But Change needed to happen despite the oppression and violence thrown at the brave few. Question is, are there any brave few in Singapore? And to do it not with violence and hatred, but to champion this cause peacefully and with love? I don't think so. The most evolved way is to let whoever have their say, and still go on as normal. Because those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter. MadMan and fab 2 Quote 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 20 hours ago, Guest Otista said: To be frank, all these non senses are rooted to the government inability to comprehend the issue. Almost unthinkable for a first-world's gov to deny basic human right with morality or religious reason. Most ministers have high educations, went to Harvard or Carnegie Melon, sure they should able to make a better decision than let's say China :). I have a strong believe, it's due to personal matter of the big boss who not comfortable with gay matter, probably due to past bad experience. What past bad experience you had in mind ? Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, tomcat said: Is this a matter of "the chicken or the egg"? Do policies change to reflect the readiness of the people, or are people the ones to change policies and governing laws? One example, if Abraham Lincoln did not campaign for the rights of the black slaves, and became the first to free his own slaves, probably African Americans today will still be owned. Abraham abolished this policy and practice, and started right in the deep south, where many racists and white supremacists can still be found today. He was met with death threats, people who threatened to topple his seat as President etc, but he fought for what was right and fair. Another example, the Sufragette movement also was met with a lot of violence. But all it stood and fought for, was the right for a woman to vote, for her collective voice to be heard. In both cases, the people were not ready. But Change needed to happen despite the oppression and violence thrown at the brave few. Question is, are there any brave few in Singapore? And to do it not with violence and hatred, but to champion this cause peacefully and with love? I don't think so. The most evolved way is to let whoever have their say, and still go on as normal. Because those who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter. Lky was a suitable one to change it. But alas he din change enough. Quote 鍾意就好，理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Life Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 22 hours ago, Guest Otista said: I have a strong believe, it's due to personal matter of the big boss who not comfortable with gay matter, probably due to past bad experience. He was forced to be straight because his father was a statemen. I pity him for not being able to enjoy his gay life and have to marry a manly woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Emundo Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 hours ago, fab said: Lky was a suitable one to change it. But alas he din change enough. too bad his predecessor is homophobic, face turned black black if asked about his view on this topic and immediately resorted to family value by majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 http://mothership.sg/2017/06/asas-clarifies-decision-process-on-pink-dot-ad-leaves-some-questions-unanswered/ "ASAS Chairman Tan Sze Wee explained that the ad authority’s decisions on complaints and feedback were put to a vote by its 27 council members and that the final decision would be adopted based on a simple majority. Despite the latest statement, there is still no clarification on the definition of “public sensitivities” and “public sentiments”, and little explanation on what exactly warranted the advice for the Pink Dot tagline’s removal, even though the ad did not flout the SCAP." So fast can convene and decide? Their own website said might take up to a month or more to come up with a decision on complaints leh. Hemnes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan97 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 i have been going to pinkdot for several years with my pals but this year i don't know why but i am kinda contemplating not to go. but but but my friend reminded me the importance of attending pinkdot this year in particular because apparently foreigners are not allowed to participate so there will be a drop in the count ok so moral of the story, its particularly important for locals to attend pinkdot this year to show our support!!! MadMan, gsky and Vometra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMan Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 37 minutes ago, Vometra said: http://mothership.sg/2017/06/asas-clarifies-decision-process-on-pink-dot-ad-leaves-some-questions-unanswered/ "ASAS Chairman Tan Sze Wee explained that the ad authority’s decisions on complaints and feedback were put to a vote by its 27 council members and that the final decision would be adopted based on a simple majority. Correction: final decision would be adopted based on a simple majority "PRESENT". That means not all 27 members need to vote. If only 3 members present, as long as 2 voted for it, that's the final decision? How transparent and democratic can that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, dylan97 said: ok so moral of the story, its particularly important for locals to attend pinkdot this year to show our support!!! I also say. Edited June 15, 2017 by Vometra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 "A group of foreign companies, including Facebook, Google and Uber, had written to the Singapore police asking for permission to support this year’s Pink Dot event. ....the 10 companies also listed three conditions under which they would participate in the event: They would not be individually listed or recognised as official sponsors; their names and logos would not be on official event collaterals; and there would be no foreign representatives from the companies speaking at the event. However, their application was rejected by the authorities." http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/foreign-companies-application-support-pink-dot-rejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 It should not come as a surprise that there is a deliberate attempt to squash pink dot and the gay rights movement in sg. First the restriction on foreign sponsorship, and then when that didn't work, forced the organizer with the threat of law to enforce the participation of citizens and prs only. There probably is some committee formed to sabo us as well .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube3 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 40 minutes ago, Vometra said: It should not come as a surprise that there is a deliberate attempt to squash pink dot and the gay rights movement in sg. First the restriction on foreign sponsorship, and then when that didn't work, forced the organizer with the threat of law to enforce the participation of citizens and prs only. There probably is some committee formed to sabo us as well .... They can always just picnic in the open wearing Pantone 223C...don't have to be at the park itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopChinese Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 This year is going to be monumental. After Pink Dot there are quite a few parties happening in the area including a drinks promo and a gay diva disco in Orchard. We will paint this town pink! PM me if you like details - cannot disclose in public. Hemnes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bonfire Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Guest Guest said: "A group of foreign companies, including Facebook, Google and Uber, had written to the Singapore police asking for permission to support this year’s Pink Dot event. ....the 10 companies also listed three conditions under which they would participate in the event: They would not be individually listed or recognised as official sponsors; their names and logos would not be on official event collaterals; and there would be no foreign representatives from the companies speaking at the event. However, their application was rejected by the authorities." http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/foreign-companies-application-support-pink-dot-rejected I'm thankful that these companies continue to show their desire to support the good cause of fighting for the universal freedom to love regardless of sexual orientation or gender. It's regrettable that our law no longer permits them to do so. Nevertheless, plenty of support from local firms and people remain. I'm excited for this year's Pink Dot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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