Pink Dot Event Discussion (2007 to Present Day) (compiled)

[doncoin]

@G_M Thank you for sharing. It is beautiful, and moving. Today in NYC they are celebrating 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots that sparked the LGBT civil rights movement. While what Singapore is going through is different, and certainly a lot more peaceful than the violence and brutality the Stonewall rioters faced, nonetheless, it is taking a stand and telling the world that LGBT people exists. We are here, and there is no shame, and absolutely nothing wrong with us. 

 

To the younger LGBT folks on this forum, be proud of who you are. Be who you are. Don't let anyone tell you that you are less than. 

[Guest LiYi]

 

[Guest Guest]

Any (MediaCorp) celebrity spotted in Saturday’s PD 2019 event?

[Steve5380]

Your Pink Dot celebration is so different from the events at the Stonewall Inn 50 years ago, which lead to one of the most seminal celebrations. 

Here is a chronicle of it:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots

 

"Stonewall has been compared to any number of acts of radical protest and defiance in American history from the Boston Tea Party on. But the best and certainly a more nearly contemporary analogy is with Rosa Parks' refusal to move to the back of the bus in Montgomery, Alabama, in December 1955, which sparked the modern civil rights movement. Within months after Stonewall radical gay liberation groups and newsletters sprang up in cities and on college campuses across America and then across all of northern Europe as well.^[172]"

 

^" A secret legion of people, known of but discounted, ignored, laughed at or despised. And like the holders of a secret, they had an advantage which was a disadvantage, too, and which was true of no other minority group in the United States. They were invisible. Unlike African Americans, women, Native Americans, Jews, the Irish, Italians, Asians, Hispanics, or any other cultural group which struggled for respect and equal rights, homosexuals had no physical or cultural markings, no language or dialect which could identify them to each other, or to anyone else... But that night, for the first time, the usual acquiescence turned into violent resistance.... From that night the lives of millions of gay men and lesbians, and the attitude toward them of the larger culture in which they lived, began to change rapidly. People began to appear in public as homosexuals, demanding respect.^[173]"

 

 

You are fortunate that your government has not let the oppression of gays go so far as to provoke similar riots.  I think that some gratitude is owed to the American gays who took the heat so that pacific demonstrations like Pink Dot exist today.

  

Edited June 30, 2019 by Steve5380

[gsky]

 

[gsky]

His Facebook says for PD 2019, but has since been.....????? 

[wilfgene]

The most interesting part is THIS thread started only 28 hours before the event.

Schism?

[lonelyglobe]

On Monday, July 01, 2019 at 5:02 AM, Guest Guest said:

Any (MediaCorp) celebrity spotted in Saturday’s PD 2019 event?

Celebrity are living in closet, cannot show up in this event except for a few that are already out perhaps.

[Steve5380]

25 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Celebrity are living in closet, cannot show up in this event except for a few that are already out perhaps.

 

Aren't there Singapore celebrities with sufficient confidence in their heterosexual image that they can support gays?

[Guest Passing]

I think the Pink Dot is getting nowhere.  Apologies if anyone is offended.  

I guess the timing is bad.  The momentum did not pick up fast enough.

So when the backlash like the transgender bathrooms, happening elsewhere is making people here more cautious.

And I think making the against people less and less willing to accept.

[TopChinese]

1 hour ago, Guest Passing said:

I think the Pink Dot is getting nowhere.  Apologies if anyone is offended.  

I guess the timing is bad.  The momentum did not pick up fast enough.

So when the backlash like the transgender bathrooms, happening elsewhere is making people here more cautious.

And I think making the against people less and less willing to accept.

Then what do you suggest we do as a community as an alternative?

 

Bitch mindlessly in some internet forum?

 

Keep quiet and let others call us names?

 

Watch your younger relatives grow up thinking they are alone in the world?

 

We must stay visible. Even if it seems like there is no hope or nothing changes. 

 

[Guest sad]

Just now, TopChinese said:

Then what do you suggest we do as a community as an alternative?

 

Bitch mindlessly in some internet forum?

 

Keep quiet and let others call us names?

 

Watch your younger relatives grow up thinking they are alone in the world?

 

We must stay visible. Even if it seems like there is no hope or nothing changes. 

 

 

how to stay visible when we cant even see your face?

[lonelyglobe]

Thats the ironic part, everyone say we got to be confident, proud and not afraid but in reality, how many people dare to show a face pict?  All we get is either no pict, cock pict, ass pict, chest pict and anything else except a face pict.

Edited July 2, 2019 by lonelyglobe

[Guest thorny sting]

4 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Aren't there Singapore celebrities with sufficient confidence in their heterosexual image that they can support gays?

 

I assume you are talking about the Sultan of Brunei? Oh, but he is banned to talk as a Foreigner on the event.

 

Unfortunately, in a country where gay sex is criminal, do you think celebrities will speak out for gays?

It can be seen as government critic and in most important point they would fear to endanger their role in famous TV drama/ soap operas.

I m sure any very outspoken (even heterosexual) would have difficulties getting into future TV roles, once they supported gays.

 

Gay content is more or less censored, movies with the slightest gay tackle on the arm by another men would be qualified as R21 (only for adults above 21 years), recently you can be lucky if it is rated M18 (permitted for above 18 years).

 

There is even a regulation for the censors to say, that only gay movies that have a "sad" ending are more or less permitted interpreted from the section that gay content should not promote a normal or homosexual "lifestyle".

 

Bet, lucky that Armie Hammer in Call me by your name, made that final call to anounce that he is marrying a woman, otherwise would maybe not gone through the Censors here.

 

We don't have any George Clooney or Jennifer Lopez here in Singapore. Sorry.

 

We have Celebritty Kumar or should I write Celepretty.... but....

 

Read for yourself. the encyclopaedia is quite funny... censoring Oscar awards and cutting pieces out of the ceremony...

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_censorship_in_Singapore

Media censorship in Singapore

Code of practice:

“Programmes that depict a homosexual lifestyle should be sensitive to community values. They should not promote or justify a homosexual lifestyle.”

 

Content Rating:

 

R21 (restricted 21) – restricted to persons aged 21 and above. May contain frequent full frontal nudity with strong details (close ups of male/female genitalia) in sexual and non-sexual context, graphic but simulated sexual activity with strong details and could be prolonged/frequent, strong sexual violence, explicit portrayal and exploration of mature themes such as those involving deviant sexual activities (e.g. sadomasochism, bondage, orgies or sex involving violence) or strong homosexual themes including same-sex marriage/parenting as a main theme, homosexual activity with some details, pervasive strong coarse language, strong and realistic depictions of graphic violence and gore, depiction of graphic torture if it is not deemed excessive, hard drug use sequences with strong details and depictions of sustained graphic horror with strong details. (This classification was introduced in 2004). Movies that are classified as R21 are currently excluded from home video releases and suburban theatres. However, as recommended by the latest CRC in September 2010, R21 video-on-demand (VOD) is now allowed on pay TV services.^[2] In July 2016, the MDA officially greenlit R21-rated content for Over-the-Top (OTT) services.

 

 

NAR (not allowed for all ratings) – In exceptional cases, a film may not be allowed for all ratings (NAR) when the content of the film has been deemed to undermine national interest or erode the moral fabric of society. This includes themes that promote issues that denigrate any race or religion, language that denigrates religion or is religiously profane (example: Jesus [expletive] Christ), depiction of real sexual activities/unsimulated sex (e.g. actual penetration, actual ejaculation, actual oral sex, actual masturbation), themes that glorify undesirable and unnatural sexual activities (e.g. bestiality, paedophilia, etc.), content deemed to be exploitative or obscene in nature such as actual pornographic footage containing real sex acts, fetishes or practices which are offensive or abhorrent, explicit promotion and normalisation of homosexual lifestyle, explicit homosexual scenes, materials glorifying and encouraging drug and substance abuse, detailed and instructive depiction of illegal drug use, detailed or gratuitous depictions of extreme violence or cruelty and detailed instructions on methods of crime or killings.

NAR = banned.

 

M18 (mature 18) – for persons 18 years and above. May contain full frontal nudity with moderate detail (sexual & non-sexual context), sexual activity which may feature some details (such as infrequent views of bare breasts) but without stronger details, frequent strong coarse language, drug use with some details, stronger portrayal and exploration of mature themes including (religious themes, homosexual themes/homosexuality as a sub-plot and political themes), implied homosexual activity, occasional displays of affection (i.e. kissing and caressing) between persons of the same gender and prolonged and/or intense sequences that invoke fear and/or terror. (This classification was introduced in 2004)

 

 

 

https://the-singapore-lgbt-encyclopaedia.wikia.org/wiki/Singapore_gay_censorship

 

 

 

[Steve5380]

6 hours ago, Guest thorny sting said:

 

I assume you are talking about the Sultan of Brunei? Oh, but he is banned to talk as a Foreigner on the event.

 

Unfortunately, in a country where gay sex is criminal, do you think celebrities will speak out for gays?

It can be seen as government critic and in most important point they would fear to endanger their role in famous TV drama/ soap operas.

I m sure any very outspoken (even heterosexual) would have difficulties getting into future TV roles, once they supported gays.

 

 

I understand that you have a totalitarian government.  And the exclusion of foreigners from Pink Dot is a clear confirmation of this.

 

But what surprises me is that even in this gay friendly forum, which should have liberal ideas about sexual diversity,  one gets bashed as Ang Moh with "Westerner ideas" insensitive to "Asian mentality", in short, a message that "get the F out of here and don't try to bring your corrupted American values here". 

 

A clear sign of the depth of indoctrination perpetrated by your regime!

[Guest guest]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I understand that you have a totalitarian government.  And the exclusion of foreigners from Pink Dot is a clear confirmation of this.

 

But what surprises me is that even in this gay friendly forum, which should have liberal ideas about sexual diversity,  one gets bashed as Ang Moh with "Westerner ideas" insensitive to "Asian mentality", in short, a message that "get the F out of here and don't try to bring your corrupted American values here". 

 

A clear sign of the depth of indoctrination perpetrated by your regime!

 

 

Hey Steve, the last time I check , your own country also prohibits political donation from a foreign country .

 

And your country also want to make sure that Old  Russia is not unduely influencing the Presidential elections and the political cogwheel.

 

So, I do support the governemnt's stand that , PInk Dot should not be hijacked by foreigners especially ang moh to make political points and influence local politics.

 

Your country do the same for foreign political influence,

 

lest the younger generations in Reddot get swayed by western people and their arguments,

 

Pink Dot event should not have foreigner's participation,

 

they wield too much influence.

 

The few years back when Pink Dot secured sponsors from corporate multinationals like 

 

 

"  

Pink Dot SG 2013's list of corporate contributors grew to include global financial firm JPMorgan Chase, local hotel Parkroyal on Pickering, contact lens specialist CooperVision and audio branding agency The Gunnery, in addition to Google and Barclays.^[40] Local actress Michelle Chia, theatre company W!LD RICE, artistic director Ivan Heng and sportscaster Mark Richmond were the event's ambassadors.^[41][42]

The event was covered by local and international media, including Indonesia-based Asia Calling

 

 

it was foreign political influence on domestic politics already.

 

So next time , the restrictions were imposed.

 

So your own country , Steve alos restricts foreign interference too

 

 

 

[Steve5380]

22 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

 

Hey Steve, the last time I check , your own country also prohibits political donation from a foreign country .

 

 

You are right.  But I fail to see the correlation with the prohibition of foreigners in Pink Dot.

 

Russia did real damage to the US by helping Trump win,  they bribed him with his Trump Tower in Moscow and who knows what other business deals,  and in addition there is suspicion that they have materials to blackmail him.  (being spanked by prostitutes?)  As a consequence,  the US regressed tremendously, changed its foreign policies to become favorable to Russia and against itself (a threatening war with Iran), and lots of internal battles.  Foreign political interference can be enormously damaging.

 

In the issue of this thread,  the inclusion of foreigners in Pink Dot should not lead to economical, military, existential threats to Singapore.  It could however FAVOR THE LGBTQs !!  Is this so damaging?  And if we want to discuss "foreign interests in LGBTQs",  it could happen that a group of Western foreign men launch a campaign of donations and bribery to influence the liberation of gays in Singapore so that they can come as tourists and have wild sex with them!!

 

To my knowledge,  there are many Asian countries that are the main targets of Western sex tourists:  Thailand, Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea, Japan... (I know because I have been there, ha ha).  But Singapore is not the most frequented one.  There are relatively few Western sex tourists like me who have the rare sophisticated preferential likeness for Singaporean gays.   

[GachiMuchi]

#PinkDot11: Young Singaporeans chime in on 377A, PM Lee’s recent comments, and voting LGBT-friendly candidates in the GE

Danisha Hakeem 2019-07-02 LGBT, Politics

 

Thousands of Singaporean teens and youths flocked to Hong Lim Park last Saturday (29 Jun) to gather for the 11th anniversary of the Pink Dot movement, which supports the right of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) Singaporeans to love and live freely without discrimination.

TOC had the opportunity to interview more than a handful of such young Singaporeans, many of whom had attended Pink Dot for the first time in their lives.

A 21-year-old Singapore Management University student told TOC that she has been attending Pink Dot since 2006, but was not able to attend last year’s edition.

“I’m dressing up extra this year to make up for it,” she said, followed by a bout of laughter.

 

When asked if there is anything markedly different from the previous editions, she replied that there appears to be “more and more young people” this year “dressing up” in a more “vibrant” fashion as a means to express themselves more freely than they normally would.

Photo: Terry Xu/TOC

“The millennials are generally more accepting of it [Pink Dot and LGBTQ-related movements] than the older generations,” she added.

The SMU student also raised an issue with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s recent comments regarding Section 377A and the LGBTQ community in Singapore, suggesting that his statement does not explore the full depth and breadth of issues plaguing the community.

Section 377A is applicable to only a subset of the LGBTQ community – that is, against men who engage in sexual relationships with other men.

“Actually, Pink Dot’s message – from what I’ve seen – and also the people who come here, especially straight allies – focus mostly on the ‘love is love’ message, which is, [about] allowing gay marriages and lesbian marriages … But I think there is less focus on trans people and their struggles,” said the SMU student, who is a gay cisgender woman.

“I cannot speak for them, but I have heard from my friend [trans man] that he suffers a lot … He faces a lot more discrimination than we realise, and I feel like with what PM Lee said, I feel that it [his statement] is very ignorant of that struggle.

“Maybe he was referring to the fact that gay and lesbian couples aren’t really discriminated, and even though we do not have [same-sex] marriage, we’re not like outrightly attacked unlike in other countries, which is something that he said … But it’s not just that.

Photo: Terry Xu/TOC

“Pink Dot is not only [about] celebrating love … It is also [about] celebrating acceptance, gender [diversity]. That’s the main reason why [being able to have] Pink Dot [every year] is not enough. It’s not enough that we’re just being “tolerated”,  and with the [trans]gender issue being completely ignored as well,” she stressed.

Even non-heterosexual cisgender people are placed in a “grey area” by the government in terms of treatment, she said.

“We’re not being celebrated, but we’re also not being accepted fully,” she said, adding: “So if that is the mildest form [of tolerance], the trans community faces a bigger problem that is rarely addressed or even visible [in the eyes of the Singapore society on a larger scale].”

Photo: Danisha Hakeem/TOC

An 18-year-old student we interviewed said that it was her first time attending Pink Dot.

“The previous years, I was actually really nervous to attend and all, but I guess this year I’m just, like, why not, right? So I decided to come with my friend.”

When asked if she attended the event on anyone’s behalf or to support anyone in particular, she replied: “No, for myself actually [laughs]”.

However, while she was excited about seizing the opportunity to attend Pink Dot for the first time, she was also apprehensive about “people recognising me, because I’m still closeted”, partly because she is a hijab-wearing Malay-Muslim and fears potential backlash from the majority of people in her community.

Similar to the 21-year-old SMU student’s views, the 18-year-old said that PM Lee’s government, in the wake of his comments, “can definitely do more” for the LGBTQ community, as discrimination is still rampant, even if it is not always manifested in overt ways.

“We are the minority in Singapore. I find it really difficult being a minority,” she said, adding: “Even when he says it’s fine, it’s not really fine … There are still people who will give us [disapproving] stares and all. We’re judged on a daily basis.”

Photo: Terry Xu/TOC

TOC also spoke to 20 teens, the majority of whom had agreed that they would cast their votes on a candidate who has made LGBTQ rights a part of their campaign for the General Election.

However, while Singapore’s young generation appears to be comfortable making a change at the ballot box, an overwhelming 16 out of the 20 teens interviewed by TOC will draw the line at the polls in the General Election, as they have indicated that they would not take active steps to advocate for LGBT rights via other means such as joining groups and organisations for such a purpose.

TOC found, based on interviews with the teens, many of whom were first time attendees, that despite a general consensus among them that LGBTQ rights would be the swaying factor between two equal candidates, many of them would not make LGBTQ rights the most crucial factor when casting their vote.

Only a few of the respondents had placed LGBTQ rights on par with other issues affecting Singaporeans in general such as employment, housing and healthcare.

Political parties in Singapore generally reluctant to express outright, unambiguous support for LGBTQ rights through key policies and election manifestos

Political parties in Singapore have been reluctant to express public support for LGBTQ rights, choosing to either opt for a “middle ground” or compromise with a largely conservative Singapore society, or to avoid touching the issue altogether.

Seven members of the LGBTQ community in Singapore sent a joint letter to six political parties in Sep 2010, the year before the 2011 General Election seeking clarification on the stance of six political parties on the issue, and to learn whether any of them had put in place in their election manifestos policies to safeguard LGBTQ Singaporeans’ rights.

The National Solidarity Party (NSP) responded that while it advocates equal opportunities for all Singaporeans, including those with sexual orientations that are not heterosexual, it maintained the stance that “individuals’ interests and rights should not supercede the core values that the society holds.

“Singapore’s social core values, at this moment, only recognizes family unit with heterosexual relationship. In principle, NSP has to respect such core values held as a society,” said Goh Meng Seng, who was the party’s secretary-general then.

“NSP is made up of a wide spectrum of individuals with different inclinations, from extreme liberal to ultra conservative. However, the mean score index is skewed towards the conservative position.

“We believe that this composition of NSP is more or less representative of the Singapore society at large,” said Goh in the statement.

“However, we do not discount the fact that social mindset may change over time. It will depend very much on the social acceptance of Singaporeans on promotion of alternative lifestyle over the media.

“We do not think Singapore society is ready to legitimize same-sex marriage. Most of the issues raised could be dealt with by other legitimate means like writing a Will or empowering LGBT partners by means of Attorney of Power,” he added.

Consequently, although the party said it “will be fighting for a broader base of equality and rights for Singaporeans in various segments of legislation (eg. equal opportunity in labour law etc), the isolate issue of LGBT rights will not be NSP’s main political campaigning focus for the foreseeable future,” the party’s statement read.

However, it will not bar its members, should they be elected to Parliament, the freedom to vote on Section 377A according to their conscience.

The Workers’ Party (WP), the only opposition party to have representatives in Parliament as of now, has declined to state its position on LGBTQ rights since it clarified its stance during a Penal Code review debate in 2007.

Chairperson Sylvia Lim was quoted as telling one of the surveyors via a phone call in Oct 2010 that the party has “no position” on the matter.

More recently, WP’s secretary-general Pritam Singh told Parliament in Apr this year that the party will not push to repeal Section 377A as a consensus cannot be reached within its leadership committee regarding the issue.

“Even within the party at large, views differ on the matter, a microcosm of Singapore society,” he said.

Consequently, an “uneasy compromise” on the controversial legislation – where the law will be retained but not enforced – had to be made by PM Lee and his government.

Touching on whether WP’s stance will affect its voter base, Singh said: “Electoral support for the WP based on Section 377A does not enter into our decisions to field specific candidates… What matters is their integrity, credibility, ability and the depth of their concern for Singapore and Singaporeans.”

The Singapore Democratic Party, while initially supporting the repeal of 377A in 2010, not only out of the spirit of not only “tolerance but also acceptance of our fellow citizens regardless of their race, religion, sexual orientation, or political persuasion”, appeared to have retracted its pro-LGBTQ stance in 2013.

SDP’s secretary-general Chee Soon Juan, in a statement, said that while the plight of the LGBTQ community must be dealt by the larger part of society with “compassion”, the community “must understand the sensitivities of those – including those who belong to religious faiths – who cannot yet accept an alternative to traditional sexual orientation”.

“Not everyone who cannot accept the homosexual lifestyle is homophobic. These are matters of the heart and of faith especially for our Christian and Muslim friends – matters which run deep into one’s being and cannot be argued away,” the statement read.

“The gay community must also realise that the law is only one aspect of the controversy. Even if Section 377a of the Penal Code is repealed, there is still the outstanding – and I suspect the predominant – issue of acceptance of homosexuality by society at large,” according to Chee.

“I had stated in 2011 during the general elections that the SDP would not pursue a gay agenda. I say again: Neither the Party nor any of our members, including Vincent, will embark on a gay agenda,” Chee said, in reference to SDP’s then-treasurer Vincent Wijeysingha, who resigned from the party two months after coming out publicly as gay.

“The only agenda that we have and will be pursuing is the urgent need to reduce the inflow of foreigners into our country, introduce a universal healthcare system, and make housing prices affordable,” Chee stressed in his statement.

Singapore’s political parties’ reluctance to incorporate the issue of LGBTQ rights into their key policies and their election manifestos may be a source of disappointment for LGBTQ Singaporeans and their allies.

However, it can also be theorised that the reluctance might not only stem from general sentiments from a conservative majority in Singapore – particularly older segments – but also even by the views expressed by young LGBTQ Singaporeans who would similarly place bread and butter issues above all others, even above LGBTQ rights.

[Guest thorny]

11 hours ago, Guest guest said:

The few years back when Pink Dot secured sponsors from corporate multinationals like 

"  

Pink Dot SG 2013's list of corporate contributors grew to include global financial firm JPMorgan Chase, local hotel Parkroyal on Pickering, contact lens specialist CooperVision and audio branding agency The Gunnery, in addition to Google and Barclays.^[40] Local actress Michelle Chia, theatre company W!LD RICE, artistic director Ivan Heng and sportscaster Mark Richmond were the event's ambassadors.^[41][42]

The event was covered by local and international media, including Indonesia-based Asia Calling

 

 

it was foreign political influence on domestic politics already.

 

So next time , the restrictions were imposed.

 

 

 

 

But strangely, only towards this topic the foreign donations were stopped. Any other sponsoring of events in Singapore (food safety, health, lifestyle, travel, cars, furniture) foreign companies donating or sponsoring events are very welcome in Singapore. Strange isn't it?

No impact on local politics?

Just take the issue of sustainability and eco measures...

 

We all know that the big corporations used the Pink Dot to show how friendly they are towards LGBTQ to attract future staff and present them as "modern".

But disallowing the sponsoring on the Pink Dot was just indicating that the government wasn't happy with so many foreign corporations pushing for a change.

And it was indicating that the government sees the gay topic as a political one.

 

Maybe Pink Dot got too big and successful?

 

Honestly, I think the government hoped with the new measures disallowing foreign MNCs to sponsor the event, the publicity will calm down and eventually making the event unviable or the organisers unable to receive sufficient financial support.

But I think they failed...

 

[Guest thorny]

11 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

To my knowledge,  there are many Asian countries that are the main targets of Western sex tourists:  Thailand, Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea, Japan... (I know because I have been there, ha ha).  But Singapore is not the most frequented one.  There are relatively few Western sex tourists like me who have the rare sophisticated preferential likeness for Singaporean gays.   

 

You are quite wrong on that point. It might be that there are some hot spots for sex tourism from Westerners in Asia. But this applies maybe to leisure travel.

However, there are many gay business visitors to Singapore. Singapore is a business hub and event location. Most business events and the most important trade shows, conferences happen in Singapore and not in the other parts you mentioned.

Counting all, I would dare to say there are more gay Westerners traveling to Singapore or via Singapore than to the other regions mentioned. Maybe they are not sex tourists, but for sure there are gay business travelers.

Singapore is very fortunate in these terms if you prefer Westerners for fun...

It happens easily that you attend an event in town and you receive messages on apps from business travelers in town.

[G_M]

Thank you everyone for coming down to support Pink Dot 11 and standing #AgainstDiscrimination.

We would love to hear your feedback! Please click on the survey form below and let us know what we did well and how we can do better!

https://forms.gle/fX9VNeeePUBF2ehw7

 

 

[Guest Guest]

https://pinkdot.sg/

https://loveliveshere.pinkdot.sg/

 

 

 

 

[Guest uhh]

never understood the point of pinkdot tbh

[luvhandle]

wow! but hard to see how those involved can form a line/dot?

[JYAG-sim]

 

[Guest act str8]

2 hours ago, Guest uhh said:

never understood the point of pinkdot tbh

 

pushing to help end discrimination to people like u?

[Guest Guest]

We should learn to appreciate.

 

For a ‘still rather conservative’ and ‘somewhat backward in terms of LGBT progression’ country like Singapore, be glad that Pink Dot is still able to take place year after year.

[Guest uhh]

1 hour ago, Guest act str8 said:

 

pushing to help end discrimination to people like u?

no thx.

judging from how it has evolved in the past few years, it is bringing negative labels of plu as loose and promiscuous instead.

[doncoin]

5 hours ago, Guest uhh said:

never understood the point of pinkdot tbh

 

So that you realised that you are not the only gay in the village. There are many others. and you are not alone. There is a network to support and embrace you for you.

[notd]

4 minutes ago, doncoin said:

 

So that you realised that you are not the only gay in the village. There are many others. and you are not alone. There is a network to support and embrace you for you.

 

Did it not occur to you that he could be a troll  

[Guest uhh]

3 minutes ago, doncoin said:

 

So that you realised that you are not the only gay in the village. There are many others. and you are not alone. There is a network to support and embrace you for you.

 

yeah this makes more sense.

all the lofty statements about love and discrimination really a bit bullshit.

[Guest ex supporter]

7 hours ago, Guest uhh said:

never understood the point of pinkdot tbh

 

Pink Dot actually used to be a good movement back in its early years, but has worsened as the years gone by. The Pink Dot related functions are more like social networking events now, and people stick to their own cliques. If you look ordinary, be prepared to be snubbed or feel unwelcomed even if you didn't intend on achieving anything i.e. find boyfriend, find friends, find hookup etc when coming for this. End of these functions, you see tons of drunkards including some of the key people. 

 

The hypocrisy repeats itself every year. People you recognise walk past you like they never ever knew you. People whom you see every year shake hands with you as they think you are someone new, feels like you are talking to NPCs in a game at times.

 

Just my few cents' worth of thoughts.

[Guest uhh]

4 minutes ago, Guest ex supporter said:

 

Pink Dot actually used to be a good movement back in its early years, but has worsened as the years gone by. The Pink Dot related functions are more like social networking events now, and people stick to their own cliques. If you look ordinary, be prepared to be snubbed or feel unwelcomed even if you didn't intend on achieving anything i.e. find boyfriend, find friends, find hookup etc when coming for this. End of these functions, you see tons of drunkards including some of the key people. 

 

The hypocrisy repeats itself every year. People you recognise walk past you like they never ever knew you. People whom you see every year shake hands with you as they think you are someone new, feels like you are talking to NPCs in a game at times.

 

Just my few cents' worth of thoughts.

 

I totally agree.

 

Also, the discourse on love and discrimination in Pinkdot is too fixated on the repeal of the law that criminalises gay sex.

To be honest, even if the law is repealed and gay men are legally allowed to have sex in singapore, we will probably still face a lot of discrimination and hate.

This is because to the public eye, the gay cause has been too focused on OUR sexual needs, and acceptance of OUR lifestyle year in year out.

Public opinions can only be swayed when the society sees that most LGBTQ members are contributing meaningfully to our society at large, rather than always asking for attention and portraying ourselves as victims. 

It is time to focus rather on how LGBTQ members have contributed meaningfully to our society for a change. 

 

 

[tic-toc]

3 hours ago, Guest uhh said:

 

This is because to the public eye, the gay cause has been too focused on OUR sexual needs, and acceptance of OUR lifestyle year in year out.

Public opinions can only be swayed when the society sees that most LGBTQ members are contributing meaningfully to our society at large, rather than always asking for attention and portraying ourselves as victims. 

It is time to focus rather on how LGBTQ members have contributed meaningfully to our society for a change. 

 

 

👍👍👍

[Guest Fatty]

15 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

https://pinkdot.sg/

https://loveliveshere.pinkdot.sg/

 

 

 

 

4. Hook up

[Guest Pink Merlion]

If everyone wear Pink Mask, the message will be even stronger.  I hope the govt support the LGBT by producing washable pink mask for us to collect at certain place.  If you light up pink at home, nobody can see and your family will say you "seow!"

[phewphew]

29 minutes ago, Guest Pink Merlion said:

If everyone wear Pink Mask, the message will be even stronger.  I hope the govt support the LGBT by producing washable pink mask for us to collect at certain place.  If you light up pink at home, nobody can see and your family will say you "seow!"

erm what XD time to pull a banksy and shine pink light on the merlion HAHA

[Guest Guest]

is this only for local and pr only again + ang moh?

[Guest uhh]

4 hours ago, Guest Fatty said:

4. Hook up

lol

[Guest Guest]

45 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

is this only for local and pr only again + ang moh?

bro, its an online event leh, what you think?

you can even participate from overseas

[Bern]

Ready to Make Pink Dot this year?

 

We need EVERYONE to head over to loveliveshere.pinkdot.sg NOW if you haven’t already, to light up VIRTUALLY! It does not matter whether you have lit up your homes physically or not.

 

It does not matter whether you have lit up your homes physically or not. We want to see mini pink dots show up on the map through this light up! It will only take ONE minute of your time! Pen a message of love and indicate a location you prefer and we’re good to go! #loveliveshere #pinkdot12

 

Go to https://loveliveshere.pinkdot.sg

1. Submit your preferred name
2. Compose a message of love and support for Singapore
3. Select a location (in Singapore) that best represents where you will be participating from

 

 

Join thousands of other supporters for the grand reveal and see Singapore light up like never before on 27th June from 8pm!

 

Supporting the freedom to love

https://pinkdot.sg/

[upshot]

Done.

 

[Cube3]

Yup done! ✨✨✨

[Guest Dollar and Sense]

Just write a short message,  choose your location to light up on the map, and done in the comfort of your seat!!!  Why was it so difficult for you?

[Guest Singapore gay Town]

Once the result is out.  everyone will be able to identity which town has the most gay people.  This is going to be very interesting.  Guys, keep lighting up the Singapore map to find out.   I can't wait!

[fab]

Right to love.

[Larry]

Done.

[Guest Guest]

1 more week to pink dot! 

[WheelofTime]

Have followed suit! Excited sia.

[practease]

Any of you guys adorning your windows with pink lights? Feels like fun, really enjoy such activities in show of solidarity.