Pink Dot Event Discussion (2007 to Present Day) (compiled)

[Guest Bitter]

On 7/21/2023 at 10:44 PM, benedict5856 said:

 

 

in the first place, equal rights don't exist.

gays can't give birth to children, so how can they have any rights.

its all craps, living in their own imagination world.

 

On 7/21/2023 at 10:48 PM, benedict5856 said:

 

The most disgrace are those fighting for so-called rights.

Discrimination happens everywhere, not just being gay.

Be it race, age, intelligence, ability, connections, discrimination will always be there.

Yes, now its legal to have sex. So what? what's next? our lives will be even better??? please lah.

such bitter boomer energy 

 

it’s really sad that just because your gay life might not have gone the way you wanted, you want to criticize and complain about people trying to make things better for others. 

[superflawless]

On 7/29/2023 at 4:16 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Oh,  I was not thinking about interfering in these crucial political social issues, not at all.   This is exclusively for you Singaporeans, of course!

 

My question was more like:  as a foreigner, during the Pink Dot can I just stand in the park, silently, quiet, motionless like a wax statue, with a blank expression in my face?  With only my chest moving in and out to breathe?

Can, just stand outside of the barricade, outside the perimeters of the Speaker's Corner. 

 

[Vometra]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8oKtW3T9-8/

 

A shit stained butt plug? 

 

 

[Guest Respect for LGBT]

14 minutes ago, Vometra said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8oKtW3T9-8/

 

A shit stained butt plug? 

 

 

I find the design very undignified towards LGBT.  Not cute at all.   I urge someone not to display it publicly. 

[Vometra]

https://mustsharenews.com/pin-design-pink-dot-event/

 

 

[Guest Respect for LGBT]

58 minutes ago, Vometra said:

https://mustsharenews.com/pin-design-pink-dot-event/

 

Good!!!  At least someone heard my voice.  In future, please check with me for approval, or seek members from this forum for feedback and opinion, before releasing any undignified design to save unnecessary expenses. 

[mate69]

Good. Should be this way

[Guest Guest]

When Pink Dot?

[G_M]

https://pinkdot.sg/

[1983rophi]

How did it go? 

Anyone can kindly gimme a summary of anything exciting that happened besides having 20 drag queens on stage, lol

                             

Thx ❤️😍🤩😘Jem. 

[1983rophi]

in 2015 i was diagnosed at D.S.C. with something bad( u know what i am referring to). DOCTOR DERICK at DSC warned me:

                                          

"U need a year of treatment in order for it to go away."

                                                

this was the lowest point of my life so i decided to attend church & one member/Christian brother got acquainted with me & found out about my medical condition & joked/responded to me:

                                                   

"don't worry Jem! this is so common! almost every month ONE OF US in the gay community gets it so i know u can bear with the pain for the next month💪i will support u thru your recovery❤️‍🩹."

[1983rophi]

he is a gem & i thank GOD for placing him in my life in 2015,he is:

                                                                                           

 

https://theatrememories.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/koh-boon-pin

 

[1983rophi]

***my point is: "Pink Dot" is a yearly celebration & commemoration of true love & inclusivity. i have been a recipient in 2015 so i pledge to pass-it-on & bless anyone who needs help managing a/any health condition by encouraging u to take ur meds & ensure ur full compliance with ur Doctor's orders. Jiayou💪

[Guest Close up]

2 hours ago, 1983rophi said:

How did it go? 

Anyone can kindly gimme a summary of anything exciting that happened

This year, more politicians attended and the sight of Jamus Lim brought so much excitment. 

[Guest Slow]

41 minutes ago, Guest Close up said:

This year, more politicians attended and the sight of Jamus Lim brought so much excitment. 

 

Definitely a shift in perception. Last time all politicians so scared. Cause if you support gay, you're a deviant by association. But since our ex PM show support to gay, now the perception changed that anybody who is anti gay is hateful. Anyone who is pro gay is loving. 

 

LOL. 

 

Very funny le society. The facts remains. We gay are still faggot who like cock and getting fucked. 

 

Ironic. Cause we don't have gay marriage all this thing. So gay is still just a sex thing.. 

 

Slowly la. Maybe another 50 years we might reach there. Taiwan and Thailand already leading the pack on this. 

 

Singapore want to be number 1 but lacking in this area. Oh well I don't have much hope, my prime as a gay man in Singapore is already past the prime. Just an old man, trying to live a lonely meaningless gay life.

[Guest Boomers]

2 hours ago, Guest Slow said:

 

Definitely a shift in perception. Last time all politicians so scared. Cause if you support gay, you're a deviant by association. But since our ex PM show support to gay, now the perception changed that anybody who is anti gay is hateful. Anyone who is pro gay is loving. 

 

LOL. 

 

Very funny le society. The facts remains. We gay are still faggot who like cock and getting fucked. 

 

Ironic. Cause we don't have gay marriage all this thing. So gay is still just a sex thing.. 

 

Slowly la. Maybe another 50 years we might reach there. Taiwan and Thailand already leading the pack on this. 

 

Singapore want to be number 1 but lacking in this area. Oh well I don't have much hope, my prime as a gay man in Singapore is already past the prime. Just an old man, trying to live a lonely meaningless gay life.

The state organs all still boomer-run so all staffs still think and act like boomers - only top down instruction following - and can never think and act for themselves!

[youdoyou]

3 hours ago, Guest Slow said:

 

Definitely a shift in perception. Last time all politicians so scared. Cause if you support gay, you're a deviant by association. But since our ex PM show support to gay, now the perception changed that anybody who is anti gay is hateful. Anyone who is pro gay is loving. 

 

LOL. 

 

Very funny le society. The facts remains. We gay are still faggot who like cock and getting fucked. 

 

Ironic. Cause we don't have gay marriage all this thing. So gay is still just a sex thing.. 

 

Slowly la. Maybe another 50 years we might reach there. Taiwan and Thailand already leading the pack on this. 

 

Singapore want to be number 1 but lacking in this area. Oh well I don't have much hope, my prime as a gay man in Singapore is already past the prime. Just an old man, trying to live a lonely meaningless gay life.

Well if we’re gonna consider ourselves “faggots” who are only about sex, what more the conservative hetero society?

 

Also I don’t think it’s a change in perspective from the MPs that brought them to pink dot. It’s cos the elections are on the horizon. It’s always been about power, and I don’t think the ex-PM was necessarily showing support. 
 

But yea, it’s heartening that places like Taiwan, Nepal and now Thailand have and are doing more for equality. Singapore, unfortunately, is becoming like a theocracy that we like to poke fun of, where just one complaint can make everyone backpedal. 

[Guest Guest]

4 hours ago, Guest Close up said:

This year, more politicians attended and the sight of Jamus Lim brought so much excitment. 

Thought he attended before? Or it is others WP MP?

[Magicerife]

PinkDot has evolved over the years, but I don't know if it is entirely for the better. Nowadays, it's not uncommon to see attendees that appear to support inclusivity and diversity at the event (? for their grams), only to revert to discriminatory behaviors once it ends.

[mate69]

5 minutes ago, Magicerife said:

PinkDot has evolved over the years, but I don't know if it is entirely for the better. Nowadays, it's not uncommon to see attendees that appear to support inclusivity and diversity at the event (? for their grams), only to revert to discriminatory behaviors once it ends.

 

Indeed

 

[Guest Will see]

11 hours ago, Magicerife said:

PinkDot has evolved over the years, but I don't know if it is entirely for the better. Nowadays, it's not uncommon to see attendees that appear to support inclusivity and diversity at the event (? for their grams), only to revert to discriminatory behaviors once it ends.

We will know very soon, whether the same party members will attend pinkdot after the result of an election.   Let's hope people who attend pinkdot came with pure heart and passion for LGBT instead of trying to earn political mileage. 

[Guest Don't understand]

I particularly like the speech by Anne Goh where she highlighted media censorship, lack of MOH protection for teachers and students in schools and workplace discrimination.

 

Media censorship - which generation are they waiting to die off before they can lift this censorship of LGBT on local media?

 

I am also wondering how come the physical violence from strangers endured by drag artist Kira Moon did not gain any traction, from the time of eruption when it was first reported on news until now when she finally spoke about it again at Pink Dot. How come nobody wants to talk about it?

 

This government has always ignored and doesn't care about emotional violence towards LGBT people and chose to verbally condemn only physical violence. But now how come not even a fart from any minister about this unprovoked physical attack?

 

Now that physical violence towards LGBT people has indeed occured, unprovoked even, the government just want to sweep this under the rug again, is it?

 

Just the purely verbal condemnation of physical violence is enough, they think?

 

So if they cannot prove that the physical assault was motivated by religion, they will just treat it as unimportant and pretend it didn't happen at all?

 

Ps: I am thinking the government repealing 377a and allowing Pinkdot is like scheming for Taylor Swift concert exclusivity, all done to make Singapore appear like a vibrant and exciting place for international tourists and business investors.

 

For show only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Don't understand]

1 minute ago, Guest Don't understand said:

I particularly like the speech by Anne Goh where she highlighted media censorship, lack of *MOE protection for teachers and students in schools and workplace discrimination.

 

Media censorship - which generation are they waiting to die off before they can lift this censorship of LGBT on local media?

 

I am also wondering how come the physical violence from strangers endured by drag artist Kira Moon did not gain any traction, from the time of eruption when it was first reported on news until now when she finally spoke about it again at Pink Dot. How come nobody wants to talk about it?

 

This government has always ignored and doesn't care about emotional violence towards LGBT people and chose to verbally condemn only physical violence. But now how come not even a fart from any minister about this unprovoked physical attack?

 

Now that physical violence towards LGBT people has indeed occured, unprovoked even, the government just want to sweep this under the rug again, is it?

 

Just the purely verbal condemnation of physical violence is enough, they think?

 

So if they cannot prove that the physical assault was motivated by religion, they will just treat it as unimportant and pretend it didn't happen at all?

 

Ps: I am thinking the government repealing 377a and allowing Pinkdot is like scheming for Taylor Swift concert exclusivity, all done to make Singapore appear like a vibrant and exciting place for international tourists and business investors.

 

For show only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*MOE, not MOH.

[Guest Action Please!!]

42 minutes ago, Guest Don't understand said:

Just the purely verbal condemnation of physical violence is enough, they think?

 

As for authority who only verbally "condemn" violence, the victim will have to take it as a joke for now. until violent offender faced the full force of the law  I am a strong believer that actions speak volume, just like the offender used physical force on innocent people.  LGBT shouldn't expect anything less from the authority for protection too.

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Guest Don't understand said:

I particularly like the speech by Anne Goh where she highlighted media censorship, lack of MOH protection for teachers and students in schools and workplace discrimination.

 

Media censorship - which generation are they waiting to die off before they can lift this censorship of LGBT on local media?

 

I am also wondering how come the physical violence from strangers endured by drag artist Kira Moon did not gain any traction, from the time of eruption when it was first reported on news until now when she finally spoke about it again at Pink Dot. How come nobody wants to talk about it?

 

This government has always ignored and doesn't care about emotional violence towards LGBT people and chose to verbally condemn only physical violence. But now how come not even a fart from any minister about this unprovoked physical attack?

 

Now that physical violence towards LGBT people has indeed occured, unprovoked even, the government just want to sweep this under the rug again, is it?

 

Just the purely verbal condemnation of physical violence is enough, they think?

 

So if they cannot prove that the physical assault was motivated by religion, they will just treat it as unimportant and pretend it didn't happen at all?

 

Ps: I am thinking the government repealing 377a and allowing Pinkdot is like scheming for Taylor Swift concert exclusivity, all done to make Singapore appear like a vibrant and exciting place for international tourists and business investors.

 

For show only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So is it still meaningful to have this yearly pink dot event? Like annual company family day gathering, have fun, picnics, take photos etc. .... then after that everyone goes home and forgets about it?

[mate69]

Not sure if it might be a case of PD apathy/lethargy?

[Guest Correct]

51 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

So is it still meaningful to have this yearly pink dot event?  then after that everyone goes home and forgets about it?

You correctly point out that Pink Dot is a significant annual event because of people "forgetfulness" of its importance.

[sphere]

 

[Guest Curious]

21 hours ago, Guest Action Please!! said:

As for authority who only verbally "condemn" violence, the victim will have to take it as a joke for now. until violent offender faced the full force of the law  I am a strong believer that actions speak volume, just like the offender used physical force on innocent people.  LGBT shouldn't expect anything less from the authority for protection too.

Because the police turned up after Kira Moon's group called for their assistance but they eventually let off the perpetrators without even any warning, and asked Kira Moon to file a Magistrate's Complaint about it before anything MAY be done.

 

I am wondering if Kira Moon went ahead to file the Magistrate's Complaint?

 

Because if she did, then I presume even the Magistrate sided with the perpetrators becauee the victim is LGBT?

[Guest Curious]

This inccident will set a precedent and send a message to everyone physically located in Singapore that they can physically attack LGBT people at whim unprovoked, without any legal or social consequence at all.

 

This is so fucking grave!!

[Guest Curious]

21 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

So is it still meaningful to have this yearly pink dot event? Like annual company family day gathering, have fun, picnics, take photos etc. .... then after that everyone goes home and forgets about it?

Then what else can be done?

 

You can't legally challenge the marriage law now.

 

Legally challenge MDA's LGBT censorship, MOE and MOM's lack of school and workplace anti-bullying and anti-discrimination laws, MOH's lack of healthcare anti-bullying and anti-discrimination laws, HDB's lack of occupant anti-discrimination laws instead?

[Guest Curious]

The ways the government allowed pinkdot and repealed 377a are very passive in approach, after much pushing and shoving by activists.

 

The way they courted Taylor Swift however, is so proactive and aggressive.

 

All are meant to create the illusion of Singapore being a fun, vibrant and exciting place without LGBT discrimination, to attract more international tourists to visit and spend money here, more global talents to choose to work here and more MNCs willing to invest, set up offices and relocate their headquarters here.

 

All only done to foster the local economy, nothing meant for the well-being, equality and rights of LGBT citizens.

 

So fake.

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

Do you mean LGBT Singapore citizens are discriminated against in Singapore?

 

But Tim Cook was warmly welcome in Singapore during his last visit. 

[mate69]

$$$$$$$$$$

nuff said

[Guest Curious]

46 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Do you mean LGBT Singapore citizens are discriminated against in Singapore?

 

But Tim Cook was warmly welcome in Singapore during his last visit. 

Not only Tim Cook, but Elton John, his husband and son born via surrogate were also warmly welcomed in Singapore with red carpet treatment and grovelling fake smiles because:

 

1. White man

2. Rich white man

3. Rich white man CEO of Apple Inc./iconic superstar of global cultural significance

 

No need to be even paiseh to admit this. Our government will happily prostitute themselves for the slightest hint of economic advantage.

[Guest Curious]

I remember when Elton John visited together with his husband and son, as a modern gay family indeed, he was even presented by our government with an Orchid named after him.

 

Such degree of prostitution just for some global media coverage and relevance.

 

It's frankly quite disgusting.

[Guest Curious]

Coming up with all those pom and pageantry to welcome Elton John, even to the extend of naming an Orchid after him, in order to fake acceptance of an obviously out and proud global LGBT icon, superstar and activist just in order to be captured by international media reporters to be shown on overseas and global media channels.

 

If I were Elton John I would openly reject that Orchid naming, reject those bouquets of flowers presented and refuse to walk on that red carpet in front of the international media and state the reason being Singapore retaining 377a in front of those international media reporters and when interviewed by them later to make a point.

[Guest hmmm?]

Aiya,  Singapore Inc loves to classified what is high-end or low-end product.  Pinkdot is just common folks fare, unless next year we invite.....Taylor Swift to stage at our Pinkdot event and then  attract world eyeballs.  Any high budget sponsors for next year?

[Vometra]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfCigciwPSYM-lWqqcjGLnHMk7g5R-KgO_Mvm1CKUg_bEtcLA/viewform

 

Letter to SPS MCCY & MSF on his presence at Pink Dot
This form is for those who have read the letter and wish to submit their personal information to support it for the purpose of submission to Mr Eric Chua, Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth & Ministry of Social and Family Development.

The deadline for submission of this form is 4 July 2024 (Thu) noon. For any clarification, please email citizens.sg.concerns@gmail.com.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12hhPApCBErJ4SiCo07Xv1NEk0assGI6J/view

 

Dear SPS Eric Chua,
We are a group of citizens – youths, fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers,
caring adults <to be adjusted based on responses on form> – who seek your clarification on
your decision to attend Pink Dot on 29 June 2024 at Hong Lim Park.

....

Edited July 3, 2024 by Vometra

[Guest Puzzled]

1 hour ago, Vometra said:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfCigciwPSYM-lWqqcjGLnHMk7g5R-KgO_Mvm1CKUg_bEtcLA/viewform

 

Letter to SPS MCCY & MSF on his presence at Pink Dot
This form is for those who have read the letter and wish to submit their personal information to support it for the purpose of submission to Mr Eric Chua, Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth & Ministry of Social and Family Development.

The deadline for submission of this form is 4 July 2024 (Thu) noon. For any clarification, please email citizens.sg.concerns@gmail.com.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12hhPApCBErJ4SiCo07Xv1NEk0assGI6J/view

 

Dear SPS Eric Chua,
We are a group of citizens – youths, fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers,
caring adults <to be adjusted based on responses on form> – who seek your clarification on
your decision to attend Pink Dot on 29 June 2024 at Hong Lim Park.

....

Some people are just very insecure and fearful and will suffer panic attacks upon hearing LGBT people gaining acceptance in Singapore.

 

I am wondering if they suffer from the symptoms below:

 

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/panic-disorder-when-fear-overwhelms

What are the signs and symptoms of panic disorder?

People with panic disorder may have:

• Sudden and repeated panic attacks of overwhelming anxiety and fear
• A feeling of being out of control, or a fear of death or impending doom during a panic attack
• An intense worry about when the next panic attack will happen
• A fear or avoidance of places where panic attacks have occurred in the past
• Physical symptoms during a panic attack, such as:
  • Pounding or racing heart
  • Sweating
  • Chills
  • Trembling
  • Difficulty breathing
  • Weakness or dizziness
  • Tingly or numb hands
  • Chest pain
  • Stomach pain or nausea

 

I also wonder if these people ever had any gay friend, colleage or neighbour, or if they live isolated in the forests of Singapore?

 

They should just migrate to another planet to avoid LGBT people then.

 

It's like having a real need to totally avoid encountering another race or nationality on a small island like Singapore. How can such cloistered existence and "lifestyle" choice be even implementable or ever sustainable in today's world?

 

It is so baffling! Don't they ever step out of their homes or places of worship?