Love Between A Discreet Bottom And A Sissy Bottom?

[Guest Fishybusiness]

Im a discreet bottom and recently I'm seeing another bottom too... He's really attentive to me but he tends to dress up like David Gan which gets a lot of unnecessary   attention from the public. He is also the insecure feminine type with very feminine body language which is a little hard for me to accept at times  because I'm a bottom too... Im trying hard to change myself to accept him for who he really is but sometimes would wish I were dating someone more manly... Anyone can share their similar experience with me?? Can two bottoms work out?

[Guest Ironrod]

Yeap don't waste time.

He can be your best of friend but dating and BF?? It's a waste of time.

[Prince+ve]

So are you guys officially dating? Perhaps you can discuss this with him & see what he thinks?

Who knows, a compromise or agreement could be reached?

You might even discover you are a top! Ahha!

Edited November 7, 2011 by Prince+ve

[Guest Guest]

Two btms cannot work out.

I'm using the term loosely because anything is possible in this world but chances are so improbable that

I wouldn't wanna pull wool over your eyes.

You're better off dating someone manlier and has the ability to plow your ass.

How do u mean by discreet? U look manly but u r a btm? like me?

It won't work. There's this sissy guy who tried to chase me. We met at the sauna and he gave me very nice massage and tongue job. After that, I avoided him but he still kept asking me why I will not accept him. Of course I don't need to tell him that I am a btm.

He was making it difficult for me to hook up with other men by sticking to me. Even when I hook up with a man, I kept my moaning low to avoid him hearing.

Till one day, suddenly he left me alone and I was so relieved. Luckily I hooked with a top who fxxked me very well before. I was so relieved that we had loud sex.

When we finished and the top exited, I saw him at the door looking in. wtf, I thought this was my freedom to do what I liked but somehow I felt uneasy. I can sense that he somehow found out the reason why I rejected him.

Strangely, I felt quite sad when we met at the showers and he totally ignored me with a cold look. Wow, gay relationship is all about sex only. One moment so crazy about me, next moment so cold? All because of...???

[Guest Guest]

Two btms cannot work out.

I'm using the term loosely because anything is possible in this world but chances are so improbable that

I wouldn't wanna pull wool over your eyes.

You're better off dating someone manlier and has the ability to plow your ass.

Love will overcome ... there are no absolutes in this world. Anway, bottom is just a label. What exactly is a bottom? Most important thing is ask yourself honestly whether you feel for him and love him. That's the most important thing, rather than just obsessing over a label.

[leo724]

Love will overcome ... there are no absolutes in this world. Anway, bottom is just a label. What exactly is a bottom? Most important thing is ask yourself honestly whether you feel for him and love him. That's the most important thing, rather than just obsessing over a label.

I agree with you regarding your point that there are no absolutes in this world, and that we should not be too obsessed over a label. However, i have always believed that within a couple, the two parties have to complement each other in some way, especially when it comes to not sexual role, but personality. If both parties in TS's situation are yearning for a manly partner, and that TS's date is quite different from his expectations, then TS really should consider whether its worth the time and effort to find complements between them, and whether he is trying to accept his date as a friend or as a lover. This consideration concerns both TS and his date.

Essentially, TS might want to ask himself: Are there sufficient matching points in personality and ideals between him and his date, as of now, to make it worthwhile exploring possibilities of a relationship? Quoting a cliched but very relevent and unbiased saying, there are no absolutely right and wrong decisions when it comes to relationships =)

[Guest jayy]

Love will overcome ... there are no absolutes in this world. Anway, bottom is just a label. What exactly is a bottom? Most important thing is ask yourself honestly whether you feel for him and love him. That's the most important thing, rather than just obsessing over a label.

Completely agree. People in the local circle seem to be obsessed with labels.

[Guest Guest]

Although i know this doesnt apply to all but we must remember that it is partly our personality that lead us to choose to be top or bottom.

What i am trying to say is that both of u might behave the same and it can be either gd or bad, you will only know it after spending some time together.

[Guest how about two Tops]

So what happened if they are both Tops?

From TS, he didn't mention SEX but felt uneasy about the sissy btm behaviour in the public.

Guess, it will be highly impossible for the r/s to work for this case.

Actually, not a matter of labelling for this case.

Two Tops or Btms can workout theoretically base on love perspective. However, adding the SEX needs and public pressure due to behaviour factors might or ca really stress this r/s.

[Guest Guest]

There are more cases of two tops as compared to two btms. Maybe it is easier to btm than to top.

In this case, one party has to give in. But sonetimes nobody wanna give in. So it leads to a clash bcos of too strong and stubborn (or ego?) a character.

Of cos im just talking abt the sexual part.

[fab]

Very difficult unless both of u are able to live without anal sex.

[Guest captain obvious]

2 dildo?

[jtsc]

If sex is the main concern then it will be difficult but if love is what you looking for, you have to go beyond sex. While two bottoms may be sort of disadvantage when come to sex but one can find substitution. However if love is what you looking at then lots of effort and time will be needed to grow the relationship.

[PaterTenebrarum]

TS, it will not work out for the fact that you wish he were more manly and do not like that aspect in him. That is how he is and if you don't like it, then tough.

Somehow, I feel that this isnt the case of two bottoms together. It's more like you arent that attracted to a guy who is not very masculine. And from your post, you said that he is "insecure" and tends to dress flamboyantly. So, if you feel this way about him, it's time to go your separate ways.

And I have a feeling you do not really want to let him go cos of the attention he has been giving you. (Well, you did say he is very attentive to you.)

I now put it to you, will you still feel this way if you meet a masculine, butch, secure, goodlooking guy who just prefers to get fxxked to fxxking and is NOT as attentive to your needs?

Edited November 8, 2011 by PaterTenebrarum

[suckling_pig]

Im a discreet bottom and recently I'm seeing another bottom too... He's really attentive to me but he tends to dress up like David Gan which gets a lot of unnecessary attention from the public. He is also the insecure feminine type with very feminine body language which is a little hard for me to accept at times because I'm a bottom too... Im trying hard to change myself to accept him for who he really is but sometimes would wish I were dating someone more manly... Anyone can share their similar experience with me?? Can two bottoms work out?

My dear, are you confusing love and sex ?

[P_Drinker]

TS, it will not work out for the fact that you wish he were more manly and do not like that aspect in him. That is how he is and if you don't like it, then tough.

Somehow, I feel that this isnt the case of two bottoms together. It's more like you arent that attracted to a guy who is not very masculine. And from your post, you said that he is "insecure" and tends to dress flamboyantly. So, if you feel this way about him, it's time to go your separate ways.

And I have a feeling you do not really want to let him go cos of the attention he has been giving you. (Well, you did say he is very attentive to you.)

I now put it to you, will you still feel this way if you meet a masculine, butch, secure, goodlooking guy who just prefers to get fxxked to fxxking and is NOT as attentive to your needs?

i agree.

DUDE, it's not a matter of two bottoms, two tops, two bottomless tops, WHATEVER. Relationships don't work on formulae - if they did, everyone CAN be attached and singlehood would only be due to choice or a shortage of a certain gender for specific sexualities (this is too much but u get my drift).

it's entirely up to u - u decide what u want. be it in terms of sex, or affection, attention, how the person treats you etc, and u weight the pros and cons. you don't come to a FORUM to ask a bunch of faceless people what THEY think YOU should do in YOUR life!?? they're not YOU!!

like what P.T. said... it's obvious you like certain aspects of being with this person. so you decide whether the pros outweigh the cons. it's really for you. and you both have penises, they can get hard unless u're impotent. if not, there are ways around it. love REALLY conquers all; sex is just momentary pleasure - you simply need to cum.

[derryfawne]

He was making it difficult for me to hook up with other men by sticking to me. Even when I hook up with a man, I kept my moaning low to avoid him hearing.

That sounds quite creepy and stalkerish actually.

[Freedom711]

Seriously, I don't understand whats with the label thing. Aint we the one who try to break through the label and prove the world wrong? There was a time when everyone says men and men, women and women can't be together and we are fighting to prove them wrong. Why are we denying 2 btm to be together jux because of the role they are playing? isnt that ironic.

[Guest oishi]

I think there are two considerations to the "Label" of bottom:

1) Physical

2) Mental

If you both check both boxes, then it is impossible to work out.

Physically both need to be fxxked; and mentally both want to be taken care of.

In fishybusiness's case, obviously it will not work out, as he is already seriously affected & troubled by the other party's mannerism behavior

[Guest Guest]

Mental bottom?? I can't believe the amount of nonsense some people can come up with...

[Guest Guest]

I think it's really all up to the individual. I know of couples who are 2 tops and 2 bottoms etc. Im not into anal sex myself so it's not really an issue whether he's top or bottom, but he has to be masculine and not soft.

[Guest guest]

2 dildo?

go read Larry story Forbidden Attraction chapter 9.