Preference Discussion + Why People Prefer Particular Race / Type? (compiled)

[Guest Guest]

It's become so easy and so common that sexual racism thrive on the internet; profiles or comments such as - No Asians, No GAMs, No Blacks, No fems, No fatties, etc. These phrases are not only unacceptable and offensive, it's also also hurtful to those who encounter it.

How to tackle this issues? Discuss.

[Asura]

Hi Guest,

I guess people all do have their preference. Even for people who have no preference, they will probably not like to see something.

Not to mentioned, some people also have bad experience? Phobia? I guess people do know what they like and do not like.

As for those words on the internet, I guess for me, I will take it as the person are being blunt. Probabloy uses of words like "NO White", "No fatties" etc, will tend to hurt people. I guess its easier for people to write what they don't like instead of what they want, cause most and most of PLUs do not know what they want, or simple, they do not know if something which is not od desirable will turn them on.

For me, I normally say, I would prefer someone who is meaty, does it sounds nicer than "No slim and skinny"? Would you think I have a bias mind?(infact, I have a phobia, due to something when i grew up)

Don't take those messages too seriously and persoanlly, but maybe treat it as a time saver, would you? no point to blame people of what they say, just because it is the ultimate truth of what they like or dislike.

And maybe people can be less blunt. But I don't believe they are that bad as to be label "Sexual Racism"

[Guest Guest]

True to some degree that some people are just blunt or inconsidered that the use or their words would hurt some people, but many gay men consider that sexual preference simply can't, by definition, be racist. I think that's wrong. Prejudice is prejudice. Racism diminishes us, weakens our community and, let's face it, means that everyone gets laid less and has fewer chances to fall in love. That sucks.

[Asura]

True to some degree that some people are just blunt or inconsidered that the use or their words would hurt some people, but many gay men consider that sexual preference simply can't, by definition, be racist. I think that's wrong. Prejudice is prejudice. Racism diminishes us, weakens our community and, let's face it, means that everyone gets laid less and has fewer chances to fall in love. That sucks.

Very true indeed, I felt like that too.

By the way, laid less is better than laid wrong

[oralb]

let's be realistic, when it comes to sex everyone discriminates, it is just the extent of that discrimination and whether the person show it explicitly.

[Guest Guest]

What we're discussing here is how to eliminate offensive words over someone sexual preferences.

If someone wrote like this; I saw many oldies, fatties and uglies on the beat...any young and good looking guys wanna meet up? No fatties, oldies or asians. Isn't that offensive? To me that person trying to say that asians are ugly and not to his taste. I saw this kind of comments too often on some gay forums made by Caucasians.

[GachiMuchi]

For guys who only like men are they already sexual racist?

As the saying goes; one man's LC is another man's CB?

Hmm....then...some likes both LC and CB. Does that means he is not sexual racist?

[Guest SexISsex]

Sexeul preference need no explanation and apology..... apart from colours, body odour, oral freshness, builds,height, looks, hairs, age, size of tool, it's cleanliness, cut no cut et cetera et cetera ........ & there is this thing call 'chemistry'

and when all these external condtion met, 'you top or bottom'(?), ' you do anal?', ' you do oral ?'.

Sometime it is quite amusing to experience in the sauna that patron (including the so called good looking ones) simply went round and round and round the whole night, and yet seems could not find the right match .

[Guest Guest]

Since gays don't want to fxxk vaginas, does this mean they are sexually discriminating against women?

[Guest TC]

let's be realistic, when it comes to sex everyone discriminates, it is just the extent of that discrimination and whether the person show it explicitly.

This is a gross generalisation. Not *everyone* discriminates.

The more accurate way of putting this is - when it comes to sexual partners we all have our *preferences*.

I happen to like "mee siam mai hum" and dislike char kway teow, but it doesn't follow that I am discriminating or have anything agains't that dish. :-)

Sex like food is purely a matter of taste. After all, "Degustibus non-est disputandum."

TC

[Baloo]

how about like this:

I prefer people who are much younger than myself of legal age i.e. 18 up, does not have bad breath or strong body odour, (sweat smell is different) intellectually stimulating, playful in in bed, yet mutually respecful, smooth bodied and generally easy going... advantage to people who spot crew cuts, and have uniform and boots fetish...

so i did not say any race, or body shapes, or whatever... but from the description, there is a only a very specific range of persons who can fit this bill... is that still discrimination?

or you prefer this:

"need hole to plug. clean or not dun matter. I use rubber."

totally no discrimination hor?

:twisted:

I'd say that most people are literacy challenged, and linguistically limited (including myself) and cannot express themselves except to act out a CHEE CHOR LAN...

and most want to fug (an image of) themselves psychologically (unconsciously so - and could be what they fantasize about) ... and so... most will go for their own kind...

it takes an accomplished thing to separate the sex from the psychological needs... where in sex you can fug anything... literally... and derive sexual enjoyment... and intellectual intercourse, where more is involved.

.

[Asura]

mee siam got hum one meh? hehehe

I thought should be Laksa mai hum

Well, true that not everyone is "bias".

Am I consider bias? I only prefer chinese, cause only one would understand myculture, I am not really against skin, or colour.

So am I bad?

[Baloo]

everyone, even his own press people got it wrong in explaining the deal.

in context, he was saying ' you cannot ask for mee siam mai HIAM ' (chilli)

becos mee siam, by itself, its very preparation already has HIAM. so cannot mai HIAM.

his idiot kancheong people focussed on mee siam instead and said say he meant laksa.

bros.. laksa ai or mai hum (cockles) is an option. it can be done. no problem. so what's the context of saying that in the whole of his speech???

sigh... it's so comical to see boo boo like this to be explained by the just follow law way... all wrong one lor...

and becos it's COCKles, all just jump in and play cockLES lor... who cares about chilli...

it's so silly the whole hum vs hiam becoming mee siam vs laksa episode I find it so NOT funny anymore - but a shame upon the 'high level people' who dun speak dialects anymore... si beh cham... it's sad actually...

how can our revered leader mix up mee siam when he meant laksa? the two names dun even sound close together!!!

but to mispronounce hiam to become hum... that's easy becos that guy is trilingual in English, mandarin and Malay... not hokkien. so easy to make that error. cannot... must make bigger error.. he meant laksa... hahahahhaha.... god damn... it's so stupid an explaination it's not even funny anymore.. the laughter is no longer of humour leow...

ok ok... time to take my medicine leow... boh jiak yok....

:whistle:

[Asura]

hahaha, where got big episode about mee siam vs laksa

Just joking lah, aiyo... hehehehe

[reflection]

It's become so easy and so common that sexual racism thrive on the internet; profiles or comments such as - No Asians, No GAMs, No Blacks, No fems, No fatties, etc. These phrases are not only unacceptable and offensive, it's also also hurtful to those who encounter it.

How to tackle this issues? Discuss.

Guest, let's be realistic with issues like preferences, biasedness, prejudices, ordiscrimination. etc, whether relating to nationalities, races, colours, sex, age, size, roles, etc. Each one of us feels more comfortable with certain people for whatever reason, no matter how shallow you think it may be. Only people who have reached certain spiritual level are able to love everyone, e.g. Mother Theresa, etc.

I dont think it is rude to specify one's preference for or biasedness against certain issue. I think this will prevent unnecessary friction.

If one gets offended by phrase like "No Asians, No GAMs, No Blacks, No fems, No fatties, etc", I can only say that the person is oversensitive.

At my age, I have been discriminated many times and I just brush it off...

With my look I have also been told not "his type"

With my role, I have also been told not able to satisfy at the bedside.

The only compliment I get most is the size of my dick...

Am I going to get upset by all these? Come on...life is short, I have better things to worry.

You ask how to tackle the issue? To me it is not an issue...The issue is how you look at things positively!

[bukitpanjang]

The only compliment I get most is the size of my dick...

Am I going to get upset by all these?  Come on...life is short, I have better things to worry. 

You ask how to tackle the issue?  To me it is not an issue...The issue is how you look at things positively!

wah hey... can i try out that well complimented tool?

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i hope that does not come out as offensive?

coming back to guest's point. out of 10 profiles i respond to, who does not explicitly mention racial preference etc and everything else is equal, ultimately i'd get 1 reply (not necessarily favourable) so in fact success rates is close to zero.

yes i used to be badly affected because i feel like something is wrong with me.

and the more i internalize that emotion. it becomes the only truth.

its sad to see myself in that state.

so whats the point really?

yes. life is not all about coming online to sgb... trevvy / fridae / etc etc

life is about being who i am and being with the people who can actually see beyond my physical (given that point of time, and non sexual context).

and surprisingly, when i started living my life that way, i've actually enjoyed a lot more AND made a lot of difference in THEIR lives. (their lives being my friends and family)

trying to look at things positively is just like walking around with both eyes shut.

face the fact and the truth. its ugly. and like those b-grade movies where the scare factor wears off after they reveal the *insert typical b-grade character here*, its easier to get on with the rest of the show.

[Guest PSS]

It's become so easy and so common that sexual racism thrive on the internet; profiles or comments such as - No Asians, No GAMs, No Blacks, No fems, No fatties, etc. These phrases are not only unacceptable and offensive, it's also also hurtful to those who encounter it.

How to tackle this issues? Discuss.

well, let us face the facts, Most Good Looking Guy with built ( Fit Tone or Muscular etc ), do you think he will want someone that is normal or Ugly etc? Maybe most of people will say they are stuck up, picky etc just like what most give comments about those guys at TC, but is that really True?

To me, most people are just jealous about them, why cant they selective when they are " Good " enough to be so, when a person just prefer to have fun with their own Race eg Chinese just for Chinese, to me is not racist, must they have sex with all race then consider not? Pls wake up & not be so childish.

Everyone have their own prefernce, if you get rejected then get furious about the person, don't you think that you behave like a small kid?

Some people like mature, some prefer youngster, some are " potatoes ", what you going to say? Youngster that don't like old uncles will be address to be rude & not respect them, however mind i ask, are they wrong to have this thinking at their young age?

Honestly, i don't think so, you may say that one day they will getting old, true enough, but you can't expect them to sex with mature or old people when they are still young, not all youngster will like someone can even be their father or Grandfather? Why no one will blame the old uncles that are " thinking too much?

Even if Good Looking Guys walking whole night in sauna w/o any action, so what? Just they never meet anyone their type, anything wrong with that? Not everyone can be " Anything or Whatever ", they rather go back home empty handed & DIY, how to sex with someone that not even their Vege?

Get rejected by those Good Looking Guys are not ashame, but be mature & understanding as your age should.

Not to be harsh, just blame those that are " Potatoes " before you give such unfair statements.

Again, as long they are HAPPY, they can forget actually they are Chinese or Asaian & their own Roots, they can do whatever they like, no one have the right to say they are wrong.

[seekachub]

Aiyah....discriminating is such a strong word.

People reject me cos i am skinny...am i being discriminated too? :swear:

Come on! What century already now...still talking abt discriminating or Racism.

What is Racism?

Racism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Racism is bigotry, prejudice, violence, oppression, stereotyping, discrimination or any other socially divisive practice whose primary basis is the concept of race.

However, beyond that, the term has varying and often hotly contested definitions. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races. The Merriam-Webster's Webster's Dictionary dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.[1] The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism thus: the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others.

As an ideology, racism first appeared during Early modern Europe in Spain during the Reconquista,[citation needed] and then during the 19th century, where "scientific racism" ideologies, which attempted to provide a racial classification of humanity, became very common[citation needed]. Although such racist ideologies have been widely discredited after World War II and the Holocaust, the phenomena of racism and of racial discrimination have remained widespread all over the world.

Racism has been a motivating factor in social discrimination, racial segregation, hate speech and violence (such as pogroms, genocides and ethnic cleansings). Despite the persistence of racial stereotypes, humor and epithets in much everyday language, racial discrimination is illegal in many countries. Some politicians have practiced race baiting in an attempt to win votes.

[Guest Guest]

For guys who only like men are they already sexual racist?

No they're not. They're sexual sexist.

[Guest Guest]

Sexism is a form of evil discrimination.

To be perfectly non-discriminatory, gays must willingly offer their bananas to vaginas.

[Boya]

stating your preference, is a consious act of drawing physical boundaries so that we define and design our environment exactly the way we want it to be. In old shanghai, when parts of the city were leased to the super powers of the west, restaurants, clubs and exclusive bathhouses have the sign "No Dogs and Chinese allowed" at their entrances.

The history of discrimination is still very much alive in current days. over time, we have only learnt to dress it up a lot more nicer so that it sounds like modern individuals associate a sense of "preference" to ideas of "exclusivity and identity - how clever are we? :smokin:

[Guest Guest]

Is race one of your considerations when you find:

1. a boyfriend.

2. ONS partner.

P/S No racist comments, please.

[Asura]

1. Chinese Only

2. Any race, so long clean and practise safe sex

[reflection]

Is race one of your considerations when you find:

1. a boyfriend.

2. ONS partner.

P/S No racist comments, please.

It seems to me the answer is obvious....It is either yes or no. Perhaps one should ask why. There is something wrong with this question : race is regardless of whether the partner is bf, or ons.

[Guest thatwasrunie]

agreed

race and first impression counts, for me that is~

[Guest PSS]

YES

[Guest Guest]

Is race one of your considerations when you find:

1. a boyfriend.

2. ONS partner.

P/S No racist comments, please.

How can one post a reply and not be racist if one prefers a race to another!? Jeezz!!

The only politically correct answer in HUMAN race I guess.

[reflection]

Is race one of your considerations when you find:

1. a boyfriend.

2. ONS partner.

P/S No racist comments, please.

How can one post a reply and not be racist if one prefers a race to another!? Jeezz!!

The only politically correct answer in HUMAN race I guess.

Guest, what a sharp reply.

[Guest PSS]

How can one post a reply and not be racist if one prefers a race to another!? Jeezz!!

The only politically correct answer in HUMAN race I guess.

My " Fair " Guest, mind i ask, is it a guy that need to sex with all races & totally not selective or picky mean not " racist " ? Who teach you that?

I have a few Good Friends, include Malay too, however if sex, i will just into same race or maybe white ( very very seldom ), boy friend just Chinese only, is it mean i am racist ????? Why don't you point the arrow to those potatoes just into white?

[reflection]

How can one post a reply and not be racist if one prefers a race to another!? Jeezz!!

The only politically correct answer in HUMAN race I guess.

My " Fair " Guest, mind i ask, is it a guy that need to sex with all races & totally not selective or picky mean not " racist " ? Who teach you that?

I have a few Good Friends, include Malay too, however if sex, i will just into same race or maybe white ( very very seldom ), boy friend just Chinese only, is it mean i am racist ????? Why don't you point the arrow to those potatoes just into white?

PSS,

That guess at 09:05pm is not discounting on what kind of races you are engaging in sex with. He is referring to the statement "P/S No racist comments, please "

It is like a trap - when you answer yes, you are in fact committing a racist answer.

[Guest PSS]

I only can say that you must totally understood what mean by racist & prefrence first, if want to use " xiao ren zhi xin " to ask or answer this Q, then you are really racist Many people in this world is very " Bo Liao " one else where the War come from

[GachiMuchi]

I like races like Singaporenese, Chinese (China), Taiwanese, Japanese, Thainese, Koreanese, Hongkongese.

Am I racist?

[reflection]

I like races like Singaporenese, Chinese (China), Taiwanese, Japanese, Thainese, Koreanese, Hongkongese.

Am I racist?? ?

You Beng-look, who dare to say you racist

Like those gangster Lao Da

[Guest Guest]

I grew up watching western movies and I adored all the westerner looks so when I knew I am gay I have natural tendacy to look for ang mo for sex and bonding AM I A RACIST!!!

[Guest PSS]

I grew up watching western movies and I adored all the westerner looks so when I knew I am gay I have natural tendacy to look for ang mo for sex and bonding AM I A RACIST!!!

Guest, if you like white for sex & to be your bf, you not RACIST, however if you think that this way make you look & feel more " HIGH CLASS " & you are proud not knowing your own mother touge, you are not RACIST too, but you are real SICK & cant be cure, as your body & your blood already decide what you are just you thought you are different with your same race, maybe next Life if you can be human again

[Guest Guest]

If you don't have the "chemistry" with someone how can he be blamed as a racist.Ask asura to explain the elements surrounding the word "chemistry" :whistle:

[Massagee]

Guest, if you like white for sex & to be your bf, you not RACIST, however if you think that this way make you look & feel more " HIGH CLASS " & you are proud not knowing your own mother touge, you are not RACIST too, but you are real SICK & cant be cure, as your body & your blood already decide what you are just you thought you are different with your same race, maybe next Life if you can be human again

The earlier guest merely likes AngMohs, don't need to say until like that lah. Peace out.

[Guest Guest]

The earlier guest merely likes AngMohs, don't need to say until like that lah. Peace out.

Massagee, if you read my post carefully, you will know what i mean. Some people they into white but they never forget their own root, that's we can say is prefrence, however ...

You know i know, truth is truth, even how beautiful or lies to be made, True fact remind unchange

[Guest White asslicker.]

I grew up watching western movies and I adored all the westerner looks so when I knew I am gay I have natural tendacy to look for ang mo for sex and bonding AM I A RACIST!!!

Angmo "Tao Kee" ma!

[kiddo]

hmm for a pinch of caucasians is fine...but my standards of them is even higher....=x for singaporeans chinese...maybe a small bit of malaysian chinese would do good...japs exec are cute too.....lols...thats my taste of my race of guys =x

[Asura]

If you don't have the "chemistry" with someone how can he be blamed as a racist.Ask asura to explain the elements surrounding the word "chemistry" :whistle:

Win liao lor, there is 110 elements in the periodic table and you ask me to explain. :swear:

This is the best I can find:

Chemistry (from Egyptian k

[thaiboyz]

Its all a matter of reference. I am into chinese, japanese, korean, thai, vietnamese....not into black, whites, arab and indian. So am i considered as myself as racist...hmm...i dun think so because i have friends of these races as well.

[TopChinese]

What's not racist:

Being attracted to someone of your race or other race

Preferring to date/fall in love/have sex with someone of your race or other race

What's racist:

Looking down/making fun of people who like other races

Bitching/Joking about people's lian jiao/BO/body hair because they are of another race

Refusing to socialise with other people because they are of another race.

It is a preference. You guys should be ashamed if you're laughing at someone else who do not share yours.

[Guest Guest]

I went to sauna yesterday and there was this Chinese guy, tanned, short, quite well built and cute. The moment he saw me, his face turned sour dan full of disgust. Mind you I am Chinese too. This is the fenomenal of GAM in angmoh land.

[reflection]

It is like a trap - when you answer yes, you are in fact committing a racist answer.

Reflection, I really think you read too much into the details....

Asura,

Thank god we have different ways of looking at things. It is just like oil and water doestn mix.....

What you see as half full is half empty to me

[Asura]

I got the hint

Lets celebrate diversity

[Guest WhiteGod.]

I went to sauna yesterday and there was this Chinese guy, tanned, short, quite well built and cute. The moment he saw me, his face turned sour dan full of disgust. Mind you I am Chinese too. This is the fenomenal of GAM in angmoh land.

You should sandblast and paint yourself white, then he'll respect you. He worship whitemen. God is white to him.

[reflection]

I got the hint

Lets celebrate diversity

You think so ?

[Asura]

hahaha....

Seriously, I really think this kind of so call Race chase thread are normally started by someone who is going for some "superior" race and yet cannot get, than start condaming....

I am not saying the "superior" race is racist, but everywhere, its all the same. White hates black, yellow hates white, black hates all but black......

No end. If you really cuise someone of the prefered "superior" race, and never get it, go on with life and maybe someone better is coming lah. Don't come in BW and waste time repeating this over and over and over again.... save space for personal to make love

[Guest Guest]

Don't know why most GAM but not all, particularly those from Singapore or Malaysia that living in angmoh land (from my own observation) tend to feel disgust with their own kind whereas those from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand are the opposite. I wonder why.