Debate On Hiv / Stds And Visiting Sauna + What are the chances of getting STD in sauna?(compiled)

[Guest Happylark]

and it degrades into a flaming session. it's valid to say that there's higher risk to get infected by the bugs at a sauna.

1) condom usage not abided to.

2) sex with MORE casual partners in sex orgies. which increases the probability of coming into contact with someone with the virus.

it's not the sex wholesomely that gives rise to contracting virus. and no one said so either i think.

[Guest Guest]

Exactly. Some people can't never see things in perspective. The person to read up on STD is you Freedom and this has nothing to do with being "chicken" or not. You got it all wrong. Anyway, no point reasoning with you. Senseless

[Guest Guest]

Exactly. Some people can't never see things in perspective. The person to read up on STD is you Freedom and this has nothing to do with being "chicken" or not. You got it all wrong. Anyway, no point reasoning with you. Senseless

Cool down girls.

The fact is that having casual sex with multiple partners definitely increases the chances of STD. Hence, be it sauna, spa, blind dates or cruisy toilets, just be safe!!!!!

[flamempire]

Guys,

Just to share an information with you, there is this vaccination called Gardasil that can prevent, among others, genital and anal warts. It can be obtained in all major clinics in Singapore, and costs around $300. It consists of three injections administered over 6 months. I strongly encourage EVERYBODY to have this vaccination.

[Freedom711]

Exactly. Some people can't never see things in perspective. The person to read up on STD is you Freedom and this has nothing to do with being "chicken" or not. You got it all wrong. Anyway, no point reasoning with you. Senseless

Ok~~ Im just trying to tell you, theres more than one way to get STD besides Suana. Its just personal discipline on playing safe. If u jux insist on going bitchy....noting I can do abt it. But it jux does reflect on ur personal interpretation of things. And btw by mentioning chicken, i dun mean ur courage of entering suana. Just returning you the favour for calling people names.

I apologize to the rest if its causing inconvenience to you. Anyway I do agree that Sauna can be dangerous and unfortunately many has contact some unwanted stuffs there. I also agreed that maybe staying away is a good choice. But end of day, I think the spreading of diseases lies with personal responsibilities, and not places itself. You may stop urself from entering a sauna, but will you stop urself from getting hooked up over the internet or having sex with guys outside of sauna?

End of day, I just feels that no matter where we are, its our responsibilities to protect ourselves and others by playing safe.

It is just my 5 cents worth of thot. You may disagreed with what I said and I totally respect your point of view. I also do believe everyone here are matured and civilized adults and do know how to bring our point across gently.Do enlightened me with ur thots.

Edited May 15, 2011 by Freedom711

[Guest Guest]

I just came back from sauna today. I definitely kenna something there. I got a pair of sore legs after cruising for 5 hrs and NO SEX I got to watch 2 very intersting movies though. My friend & I chanced upon this thread and he told me 'dun inhale bcoz the air got sars virus'.lol

[Guest Guest]

Ok~~ Im just trying to tell you, theres more than one way to get STD besides Suana.......If u jux insist on going bitchy....noting I can do abt it. But it jux does reflect on ur personal interpretation of things. And btw by mentioning chicken, i dun mean ur courage of entering suana. Just abt you only dare to sign in as anonymous.

Each time u bring up a new interpretation. That is precisely my point - senseless discussing with u.

U said u didn't mean courage when u said chicken. Here's what, I mean what I said of u - bird brain & senseless. If ever technology is advanced enough to replace a brain, u should crawl over to register even if u r crippled .

BTW, don't scratch ur head & think till the cows come home, order super extra large (brain capacity), that's definitely the size u need

Now u say u were referring to more than one way to get STD. This is precisely my point - u r senseless. U didn't mention earlier & each time u bring up a new interpretation. U mention tt u didn't mean <blah blah> when u said "chicken". Here's what. I mean what I said - you r bird brain & senseless. Using 'guest' has nothing to do with courage too... Again jumping into senseless conclusions. If there is a shop that sells intelligence or a brain, even if u r crippled, u should crawl over & grab one immediately. Oh btw, u should take extra large

[Guest Happylark]

i have never been to one. my boyfriend doesnt want me in one either. let's all chill and learn english.

spelt as sauna - pronounced somewhat like saw-na.

not spelt as suana - not pronounced as sua-na.

a word a day

[Guest Guest]

Oops sorry for the "cut & paste" text. Anyway it is ok, messy or proper text makes no diff to a bird brain. U probably think alphabets are worms for your breakfast.

Will stop this posting, otherwise ur testicle sized brain will be overloaded.

Happy chirping

[Guest Troy17]

Oops sorry for the "cut & paste" text. Anyway it is ok, messy or proper text makes no diff to a bird brain. U probably think alphabets are worms for your breakfast.

Will stop this posting, otherwise ur testicle sized brain will be overloaded.

Happy chirping

Hmmm well...Freedom really have some grammarical error and spelling error here and there.Need to brush up his eng but I still understand wad he meant.

Unknown guest: Thats all for your arguement to fight back? woh you really short on facts and bullets ya. Fought like a gal...meow~~

[Guest Troy17]

Hmmm well...Freedom really have some grammarical error and spelling error here and there.Need to brush up his eng but I still understand wad he meant.

Unknown guest: Thats all for your arguement to fight back? woh you really short on facts and bullets ya. Fought like a gal...meow~~

Oopz laughing at ppl~~ its grammatical error and argument*.

[Guest Guest]

Oopz laughing at ppl~~ its grammatical error and argument*.

it's good to write perfect english but more important to be gracious to others who are not so well-versed.

it's the quality of the thooughts that counts.

[Guest Ignoramus]

How you know he got genital warts from sauna?

He must have engaged sex with someone else, and that could have caused him to contract the genital warts even if it was not in the sauna?

You do not have to have sex to develop anal warts. It can be transmitted from person to person by direct contact.

[Guest ignorami]

There are lots of other stuff that are easier to catch than hiv, ie warts, to different strains of hpv ranging from cold sores on the lips to genital herpes to those that progress to cancer - most of which, embarrassing and INCURABLE. Everyone should do their due diligence in educating themselves first on all the potential risks that are involved before engaging in an activity that has irreversible consequences. Google for images, how are they contracted, treatment options, and decide if you want to open the floodgates to this host of infections and a lifetime of stress as a result of a momentary weakness.

Ignorance and inflated egos are not immunity nor vaccination and the day we think or feel ourselves larger than life, and that the worst will never happen to us, is when we become prime candidates for these affliction.

Saying that, I am no means championing abstinence, nor am I fear-mongering but rather, simply advocating informed and responsible practices not only to potential partners but more importantly to oneself.

Have fun and play safe!

PS: To those shooting off brash snarks like "dun inhale bcoz the air got sars virus", just so you know you'll be choking on your own words with the warts in your deserving throat sooner than you think.

[Guest Guest]

There are lots of other stuff that are easier to catch than hiv, ie warts, to different strains of hpv ranging from cold sores on the lips to genital herpes to those that progress to cancer - most of which, embarrassing and INCURABLE. Everyone should do their due diligence in educating themselves first on all the potential risks that are involved before engaging in an activity that has irreversible consequences. Google for images, how are they contracted, treatment options, and decide if you want to open the floodgates to this host of infections and a lifetime of stress as a result of a momentary weakness.

Ignorance and inflated egos are not immunity nor vaccination and the day we think or feel ourselves larger than life, and that the worst will never happen to us, is when we become prime candidates for these affliction.

Saying that, I am no means championing abstinence, nor am I fear-mongering but rather, simply advocating informed and responsible practices not only to potential partners but more importantly to oneself.

Have fun and play safe!

PS: To those shooting off brash snarks like "dun inhale bcoz the air got sars virus", just so you know you'll be choking on your own words with the warts in your deserving throat sooner than you think.

Heng, not me. i m the only the typist.

bxxxxx , u kenna cursed lah. So no blowjob this wknd. better get the flowers from kuan yin temple to gargle.

dun curse me hor. i wish you well with a lot of fxxks this wknd in sauna. may the gay fairy bless you with erection 24/7 this whole yr.

[Guest ignorami]

Heng, not me. i m the only the typist.

bxxxxx , u kenna cursed lah. So no blowjob this wknd. better get the flowers from kuan yin temple to gargle.

dun curse me hor. i wish you well with a lot of fxxks this wknd in sauna. may the gay fairy bless you with erection 24/7 this whole yr.

Wow, you're so pathetic i actually feel sorry for you.

[Guest Guest]

Wow, you're so pathetic i actually feel sorry for you.

feel sorry, then let me 'enter you sesame'.

[Guest Move]

To all childish posters, you guys should stop and all argument should be moved to flaming room.

Going to sauna is your own decision. Having said that, u should play safe. However, chances are, the more u have fun, the possibilities of contracting STD increase proportionally. I've seen both btm/top like RAW but don't understand why the like it that way. However, pls always insist "no rubber, no SXX". because u might just regret for the rest of your Life.

Generally, not only sauna u shouldn't go but should avoid any form of cruising places becos STD and HIV don't appear only at Sauna but everywhere. I'm not sure about other sauna, for TMC, there are few regulars don't mind having RAW if they or their partners didnt bring Rubber. If I meet someone who don't mind RAW if both of us didn't bring rubber, I will skip the session :-) and look for other opportunities.

There are btms who can't satisfy by one 'F' session, and need multiple partners. Just imagine u are on him RAW after few men had done it.

Yes, U only live once, u deserve ur life, ur fun and ur SXX. BUT DON'T REGRET if U contracted something unpleasant for the rest of ur life.

[Guest sg_boy911]

I too got anal warts (external) from going sauna almost a year ago.its really regretable. I went to nsc and had treatments for months.shitting was very difficult bec the warts is just outside the skin outside my hole and during treatment the clinic have to use a tube and insert in my ass to open it for the doc to spray the cold thing to kill the warts. I too didnt know how i got it because i always make sure guys who top me is wearing condom.not sure if one can get the anal warts virus from a guy who touch ass of a guy with the anal warts.

[Guest sg_boy911]

I only found out i got anal warts when its length reached more than 1 inch.its not easy to detect and feel it for my case bec the extra skin grew outside the skin beside the opening of my hole.no wonder am enjoying to be bottom coz the skin when rubbed adds itchy feeling.but was shocked when i put a mirror under my butt to see whats that long thing i touched while cleaning my hole 1 time. At first i tot its causes by eating spicy food.but after consulting gp. Gp suspected its anal warts and recommended me to see nsc skin specialist.thank god mine is external warts and do not need surgery if internal warts. Let this topic serve as warning to be very careful when guys touch your hole or skin rubs skin of your butt n hole.

[Guest Guest guest]

Can I clarify, what is an anal wart?

Does it only affect bottoms duting anal sex?

What are the signs and symptoms?

[Guest Guest]

Will the policies below work for this country ?

Beijing - People will be held liable for intentionally spreading sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), the Ministry of Health stated in its draft amendment to the regulation on STD prevention and treatment.

People that intentionally spread an STD will face financial and even criminal penalties, depending on the damage caused, according to the new amendments.

The amended law requires STD sufferers to take precautions to prevent transmitting a disease to others, while the current regulation, which has been in force since 1991, only required them to seek timely treatment.

The draft appeared on Tuesday on the website of the Chinese State Council's Legislative Affairs Office, which is soliciting public opinions until June 5.

[briax]

not only in saunas, anyone who you meet anywhere, like strangers you meet from internet also could have those diseases and pass them to you.

I agreed with Sonnabend on this. It has nothing to do with the places you are having sex. It is what and how you protect yourself that makes the difference. You can be having sex on your own bed but if you are not protected and the sex partner is having a STI, he can transmit to you knowingly or unknowingly. At the end of the day, it is your responsibility and decision to protect yourself.

[Guest Picture]

I only found out i got anal warts when its length reached more than 1 inch.its not easy to detect and feel it for my case bec the extra skin grew outside the skin beside the opening of my hole.no wonder am enjoying to be bottom coz the skin when rubbed adds itchy feeling......... Let this topic serve as warning to be very careful when guys touch your hole or skin rubs skin of your butt n hole.

Do u have a picture? Is ur treatment successful?

[Guest sg_boy911]

Do u have a picture? Is ur treatment successful?

I dont have..yes the treatment was successful.after the experience I stop being flexi and return to pure top. I guess avoid guys finger to touch your hole.for bottoms u can use your own fingers/hands to put lubs and make sure the top covers the whole cock with a condom.for tops inspect hole if u see extra skin near anal

[Guest sg_boy911]

After tat I now always check bottoms ass for any extra skin near the asshole.i remember after inspection to 1 of my bottom.i saw he got lots of small anal warts.my hard cock immediately went soft and told the bottom am sorry I have no more energy as excuse

[Guest ignoramus]

I agreed with Sonnabend on this. It has nothing to do with the places you are having sex. It is what and how you protect yourself that makes the difference. You can be having sex on your own bed but if you are not protected and the sex partner is having a STI, he can transmit to you knowingly or unknowingly. At the end of the day, it is your responsibility and decision to protect yourself.

I think both of you missed the point. Yes, it is our responsibility to protect ourselves. But I guess not everyone who visits saunas or whomever you meet elsewhere, will be responsible enough to stay away so that they do not continue spreading whatever it is they have.

So even if you protect yourself for after-action, a simple petting and rubbing action of the infected area would have been enough for you to get anal warts. So it's not a question of protection, but a question of whether the infected has the social responsiblity to stay away? And the answer is no.

[Guest neutral]

I think both of you missed the point. Yes, it is our responsibility to protect ourselves. But I guess not everyone who visits saunas or whomever you meet elsewhere, will be responsible enough to stay away so that they do not continue spreading whatever it is they have.

So even if you protect yourself for after-action, a simple petting and rubbing action of the infected area would have been enough for you to get anal warts. So it's not a question of protection, but a question of whether the infected has the social responsiblity to stay away? And the answer is no.

I feel what is the point of arguing over who goes and who doesn't go sauna.

There will always b pple who go and those who don't go. Each will have their own thinking.

To those who go..yes its fun but if you contract any disease gd luck

To those who dont go...gd for you..you can remain in this way..despite missing all the fun..

So no point arguing over this ...

[snowball]

I feel what is the point of arguing over who goes and who doesn't go sauna.

agreed, people don't go sauna does that mean they are saint,

they have other source to meet people for fun,

once you meet people for hanky panky ( sex ), there is always a risk

[Guest Be good]

Yes, you should not go to sauna. Once you been there, for sure you will regret. It's worse if you dont regret, cos you'll keep coming back.

There's nothing wrong with having sex. But the problem is STD. Sauna is the riskiest place to be affected. Ppl go there have sex like no tml. Think about how many hiv+ ppl still go to sauna. If you're lucky you dont get hiv. But still there are sex diseases like genital warts, herpes... These are easily transmittes through oral sex, even kissing. Someone look completely cute and clean and healthy does not mean he does not have std. In fact, he may be very dangerous cos he may have sex with many and infected with std but he himself dont even know yet.

Dont think just go there and have hj is safe. Hj is not safe 100%. if the guy play with someone dick and later on the same hand play with ur dick, he still can transfer the disease to u. It's low risk but it's not risk free.

Problem is u go sauna most of the time u wont be able to control urself. End up you will oral for others or let others oral u withouy using condoms. After that you feel scared but nothing you can do. Only pray that you dont have any diseases and try to control urself from comin back to the sauna.

Having said so, even when u meet someone on the net, or some one in the neighbourhood, or wherever it is, and then have sex with him; if you dont practise safe sex, you are still at risk. Life is like that. It's almost impossible to avoid getting std. But once you got it, there're no return. You'll be sorry for the rest of your life. Cos u cant find a bf. Cos if u love him, you dont want to affect him with your disease, therefore you have to stay away from him.

If not, once he gets infected by you and once he finds out, the love you have will become the ugliest.

Bottom line. Dont go sauna. Dont meet ppl for sex. If horny, masturbate. Be a good boy, or just 1 mistake, you will regret for the rest of your life.

[Guest Be good]

A better way is the sauna should do hiv test on everyone who wanta to enter the sauna. They then have to wait until the results come out (20-60mins) then if they're -ve they are allowed to enter. If +ve, can not enter.

This is not discriminating against hiv+ ppl. I do support them and feel sorry for them. Cos one mistake but they have to suffer for the rest of their lives. Anybody can make mistakes, especially when they're young and are not aware of the consequences.

However, this action is necessary to protect others from suffering.

[Guest Guest]

I too got anal warts (external) from going sauna ........clinic have to use a tube and insert in my ass to open it for the doc to spray the cold thing to kill the warts.....

The "cold thing" is liquid nitrogen. It is use to freeze the warts before remove them using laser.

"Be Good" suggested HIV test, this is good but not 100% safe because of the "window period" - during this period, you wont be able to detect the virus.

[Guest Guest]

After tat I now always check bottoms ass for any extra skin near the asshole.i remember after inspection to 1 of my bottom.i saw he got lots of small anal warts.my hard cock immediately went soft and told the bottom am sorry I have no more energy as excuse

It becomes a mating ritual that a total stranger will inspect me naked and feel here and there like buying a piece of go-go boy meat in the market. I have to bend over, spread my legs apart in a submissive pose.

But I understand why he's doing it. In fact I get worried if he don't inspect my backside thoroughly before fxxking me. If he is careful then I know he is clean too,

A sauna is the best place for sex because we can shower before and after sex to keep clean.

[Guest Raymond Loi]

Gay sauna may sound fun, but in the long run, one is likely to catch std, hiv, infection unless one is careful.

Is one able to resist the temption inside and let the head rule regarding taking precaution like condom?

Is the mattress, seat, floor really free from infection? Full of bacteria, viruses.

Besides, the dark areas in sauna gay club attract a lot of bas energy, qi and bad spirits. Many people and practitioners can vulge.

Have safe fun elsewhere, make friends elsewhere.

Have fun, satisfy urge, be healthy, be safe, be mentally and physically happy, peace of mind.

[koolkai]

Besides, the dark areas in sauna gay club attract a lot of bas energy, qi and bad spirits. Many people and practitioners can vulge.

Why do the dark areas tend to attract negative energy and bad spirits?

Edited May 22, 2011 by koolkai

[Guest Be good]

A sauna is the best place for sex because we can shower before and after sex to keep clean.

You're INCORRECT. shower does not prevent you fom getting STD, NOT AT ALL.

You used the word "clean" as in hygene clean is correct, but not clean as in healthy clean.

I hope ppl dont have this kind of misconcept about STD. If they think shower before and after sex can prevent std, they are wrong big time and they will pay a big price for this silly misconcept.

I did not mean to point out you are wrong. But i do think we should know better about std so as to protect ourselves and others.

[HakunaMatata]

I was thinking about visiting a gay sauna to take a look but after reading the comments, makes it sound really scary. With all the concerns, can those who visit gay saunas post here and tell us why you still go? Is the risk worth it?

[Alain T]

I was thinking about visiting a gay sauna to take a look but after reading the comments, makes it sound really scary. With all the concerns, can those who visit gay saunas post here and tell us why you still go? Is the risk worth it?

Nope..not worth it for the risk of STD or even HIV. Well, if you would want to have a visit, experience it and still can control your "urge"...you may try.

I never fxxk in any sauna that I've visited (since years ago), but I dont see this can free me from STD/HIV either..and let me tell you, you'll gonna get bored and stop going after a while...like me now...

[GachiMuchi]

Whether you go or don't go to a sauna, you can still get whatever diseases because at the end of the day, you are responsible for yourself.

The question here is; Will NOT Visiting sauna prevents you from NOT Getting diseases? The answer is NO.

There are those who don't go to sauna but frequent chat rooms, personal forum, toilets, parks, etc. looking for sex. Does that means that they will least likely be infected compared to those who frequent saunas?

Here are my views :

Those who DONT'T go sauna :

1. The shy, the young, the virgins and the closeted or all of the above.

2. Those who are infected, because they afraid that they will meet ppl who knows they are infected.

Those who GO sauna :

1. Easy to get people because everyone goes there for sex or at lest 99%.

2. No guessing game.

3. Safe environment for sex. Compared with meeting people in cruising areas.

4. Those who don't have a place and don't want to spend lots of money for hotels, who checks ID.

5. No baggage. just fxxk and fxxk off.

6. Theme nites.

7. More choices to choose from. Those who are not choosy have more to choose from and those who are, has less.

8. Opportunity to be as kinky and raunchy as you can be.

9. Free HIV testing at saunas.

The disadvantage of online sex:

1. Can get fake pictures/info. Lots of them lie about their looks and age, etc.

2. Your pics or web video might get posted online in forums, etc.

3. They can also be infected with all kinds of diseases which you don't know.

4. If you go to their place, you might be robbed, raped, drugged or worst things can happen which is beyond your control.

5. If they come to your place, you might be harassed, stalked, things stolen, etc.

The disadvantage of public cruising for sex:

1. May get caught and charged for indecency, etc. (many cases in papers)

2. Getting caught on video or picture by surveillance camera, neighbours posting pic onto Stomp, etc.

3. Accidentally cruising a str8 guy and getting into all sort of trouble.

4. No guarantee that the person you hook up are disease free.

5. Dangers of getting robbed, raped, drugged, etc. or worst, killed.

So, you draw your own conclusion. If you really want to play it safe; Stay home and jo to your favorite videos.

[Guest Marad44]

There's only one way to know if you are clean - test!

[Kurio_boy]

I don't go to public saunas cause I have one at home

[thick.white]

There's only one way to know if you are clean - test!

Why do people use the term 'clean'? It implies that anyone with an STI must by definition be dirty.

[thick.white]

There's only one way to know if you are clean - test!

Why do people use the term 'clean'? It implies that anyone with an STI must by definition be dirty.

[gz69]

So much discussion about how unsafe saunas are. I do not share the same sentiments. Yes, sex always carries risk. Are you sure yr BF has not done something outside and is bringing back with him the unwanted "guests"? To be fair, many have loyal, faithful relationships and I am not insulting anyone here.

What about your immune system? If diseases can be spread so easily, there would be widespread outbreak of everything. Washing before and after is not only good hygiene, you are at least washing your body and reducing some risks. Even when microbes (virus, bacteria) enters your body, your body immune system is waiting and will fight them off. If your immune system is weak, you do not need to visit a sauna. Even taking a Lift will make you sick because of virus / bacteria left on buttons, doors, etc.

Many have a misconception of the power of your own urine. Be open-minded. Just do a search under Urine Therapy and read the testimonies of the power of your own urine in strenghtening your immune system. Urine is not a waste product. It is called Plasma Ultrafiltrate (medically) and is similar to the fluid in your mothers womb where you are there. It is cleaner than distlled water when it is excreted. The contamination comes after it leaves the body. There are not my wild statements... all can be found on Internet.

As a gay who have frequented many saunas here and overseas, I trust my own urine to keep my immune system strong. Touch wood, I have avoided problems but I also practise safe sex and I do not inhale nitrates or other substances. And personally I like it when someone examines my body before we start the fun. If he can do it, I presume he is okay too. Focus on your immune system. It keeps you healthy and alive each day.

[Guest fall sick in gay Sauna]

Hi all you Guys here, Seriously I just want to know what you all is thinking. Even though you wear condom if you do anal. But you just let any guys suck you, or you suck him or kiss any guys who you can't even see in the dark ?

 

And you think you will not get any disease or fall sick by doing all that ?! I have a few gay friends who fall very sick after going to sauna, simple because they just kiss, suck and lick any stranger who they are attracted to. Is it really worth it ?

 

So what do you to protect yourself not to fall sick while having fun in gay sauna ?

 

For those married man who have fun in gay sauna, you think that you wont fall sick while you have fun in Sauna ? And you think is ok that you can safely go back home and you will spread it to your wife and children ?  You know that you able to spread flu virus, bacteria and other air born disease when you are having close contact with another human being ?

 

So all of those having fun in sauna just assume everybody is healthy and you will not get sick ? So if there is another SAR virus happen in Singapore you still like to go to Sauna ?

 

Sometime I think so many man are being very irresponsible. Or you are just being ignorance thinking that you wont get sick or you are the one who spread the disease to other people.

[Afterwork]

Not that I'm advocating that everyone go sauna now, but short of asking for a doc's certification of clean bill of health

There is always an element of risk in any cruising activity - not just limited to sauna.

I mean it's just like you pick up someone at a bar, what guarantee is there the person is "clean"?

It is about social responsibility - if u are sick, then don't cruise.

[Guest Guest]

You can bring along a dettol spray, before you suck the cock, spray some on it first.

[Guest xx]

You can bring along a dettol spray, before you suck the cock, spray some on it first.

or dun eat raw, cook it before you suck

[Guest fall sick in gay sauna]

Hi Afterwork,

 

I agreed with your analogy. Unfortunately, in my personal opinion the problem with most of the gay man and even married man who go to gay sauna are very socially irresponsible.

 

I think one has higher chances to get sick while having fun in gay sauna. I think many man here know the risk but they don't care about the consequences. Only panic when it is too late.

 

Not that I'm advocating that everyone go sauna now, but short of asking for a doc's certification of clean bill of health

There is always an element of risk in any cruising activity - not just limited to sauna.

I mean it's just like you pick up someone at a bar, what guarantee is there the person is "clean"?

It is about social responsibility - if u are sick, then don't cruise.

 

[Guest curiouslad2]

Seriously, all these saunas should be closed down. They are giving free passes to young ppl , luring them for their own selfish economic gain. Some young people are not ignorant, they are being lured by experienced ppl to have sex without safety, thus exposing themselves to diffeerent diseases at a young age. If it's HIV, then one will regret forever.

 

Think should write to MCYS and advocate the closing down of these places.