Which Country Is Good To Migrate?

[Friendly]

Hi..Everyone..

 

My bf is from Myanmar. We are getting married and looking for a place we can live togather.

Singapore is a very good country but its a little difficult to work things out for my bf. And i find things are getting too expensive for us too. 

 

I am looking for a place(country) to settle down. Myanmar is developing but slow, and it would be difficult for me to live there for long,as the goverment there is still working on how to deal with  foreiger. They still do not have things like PR.

 

I have also looked at Thailand,but i would need to look for a local if want to do a small business there like opening a shop. 

 

Buying a small house in this two countries is not a problem for us. We need to look for a country that we can do a small business and be able to become PR there.

 

Any suggestion or site that  i can visit to know more about living oversea i would appreciate.

 

Thank you.

[gstc82]

TS, if u need people you don't know telling u which country to stay. It shows that u ain't ready to move out of your country.

[Friendly]

TS, if u need people you don't know telling u which country to stay. It shows that u ain't ready to move out of your country.

I am trying get more information.. if you have a country that is workable i would love to look into it.. lor..

[gstc82]

I am trying get more information.. if you have a country that is workable i would love to look into it.. lor..

it's my dream to live in Burano, Venice.

[Phil]

it's my dream to live in Burano, Venice.

Italy did not legalize gay wedding...

You should come to France!

[abang]

Great idea for you to move to a more gay-friendly country.

I always like the idea of managing a small, inexpensive gay hostel in Thailand, be it Bangkok or Pattaya or Phuket.

I like the Thai hospitality and that unfailing smile and wai.

 

Retail business is slow but gay hostel should looks promising.

I am not talking about opulence here but basic needs for the younger, gay crowd.

After been backpacking throughout Asia for many years, I think a gay hostel is very feasible.

[wheeze]

Italy did not legalize gay wedding...

You should come to France!

 

France, or at least Paris, seem to have quite a number of homophobic people, judging from the anti-gay protests. Albeit it's "only" a tiny percentage of their population, but still...their population is large, so a tiny percentage is still significant. Might be reason enough to reconsider settling there permanently.

 

Pictures paint a thousand words:

http://i.imgur.com/qfb5mvI.png

 

Below's an ANTI-gay marriage protest; yes they're using the colour pink as one of their symbolic colours, the other being blue -.-

http://imgur.com/a/M1MZB

[patisoy]

If you want to settle down with your BF in a quiet, peaceful & gay friendly neighborhood, you must consider outskirts of Thailand. After living in Thailand for almost 3 years now, I would say that the less-developed provinces would be perfect. You may want to consider Huahin, Changmai, Changrai, Rayong or Banchang. The cost of living is really low and no issues on environmental pollution. The only problem may be access to advanced healthcare and sense of community. I would suggest that you really study the language so that you can integrate to the community faster. In general, Thais are friendly & hospitable. In order to start a business, you may need to get a local Thai business partner. A lot of westerners have managed to set-up businesses here. It is easy and less costly to get long term visa.

[Kai87]

Hi..Everyone..

 

My bf is from Myanmar. We are getting married and looking for a place we can live togather.

Singapore is a very good country but its a little difficult to work things out for my bf. And i find things are getting too expensive for us too. 

 

I am looking for a place(country) to settle down. Myanmar is developing but slow, and it would be difficult for me to live there for long,as the goverment there is still working on how to deal with  foreiger. They still do not have things like PR.

 

I have also looked at Thailand,but i would need to look for a local if want to do a small business there like opening a shop. 

 

Buying a small house in this two countries is not a problem for us. We need to look for a country that we can do a small business and be able to become PR there.

 

Any suggestion or site that  i can visit to know more about living oversea i would appreciate.

 

Thank you.

 

Interesting topic.

 

I don't mean to sound offensive so please don't take it the wrong way.

 

As per your header, many countries in this world is good to migrate to. However, 2 questions should be posted to you - Do you have sufficient funds and does the country wants you as a resident? (Therefore, it's not entirely up to you) So, you might want to source for countries you, especially your partner, CAN migrate to in the first place.

 

Now, as per your post, you find Singapore's increasing cost of living as a factor. However, buying houses and starting a business in a foreign country becomes plausible - I find it contradicting.

 

If this post is genuine, I think both of you have to think of a country you like and start doing individual research, rather then seeking open options. 

 

My two cents.

[gstc82]

Italy did not legalize gay wedding...

You should come to France!

I love Burano as its quiet, colorful n full of charm. However from what I know, the young is leaving Venice or bright lights of Milan.i don't mind staying in Siena as well. Paris would be up there as well as I already have a good friend there !!!

[Friendly]

Interesting topic.

 

I don't mean to sound offensive so please don't take it the wrong way.

 

As per your header, many countries in this world is good to migrate to. However, 2 questions should be posted to you - Do you have sufficient funds and does the country wants you as a resident? (Therefore, it's not entirely up to you) So, you might want to source for countries you, especially your partner, CAN migrate to in the first place.

 

Now, as per your post, you find Singapore's increasing cost of living as a factor. However, buying houses and starting a business in a foreign country becomes plausible - I find it contradicting.

 

If this post is genuine, I think both of you have to think of a country you like and start doing individual research, rather then seeking open options. 

 

My two cents.

I asure you my friend that this post is very genuine. And yes here is part of our research. And for your information a three room hdb flat in Singapore i equal to very big house by the beach with garden in Myanmar. That is what i am saying.. And renter for shop houses in Countries like Myanmar and Thailand is much much cheaper then in Singapore. And so is labour. The problem is like eg... Myanmar still does not issue P.R and Thailand i need to find a local to have a 50 percent share for a business. I hope i have done my best to explain myself.

[Phil]

I love Burano as its quiet, colorful n full of charm. However from what I know, the young is leaving Venice or bright lights of Milan.i don't mind staying in Siena as well. Paris would be up there as well as I already have a good friend there !!!

Thanks!

All are beautiful places, but do not hesitate: come to Paris!

[azimuth]

How about New Zealand? Gay friendly.

[Friendly]

How about New Zealand? Gay friendly.

Yup... we are going there to get married... but not sure about living there... lor.. thanks..

[darkflame]

Career-wise, I may have to head to Japan.

[greenroad]

Career-wise, I may have to head to Japan.

Kinda expected you would mention Japan, DF.

Same here, would consider Japan because the Japanese society is one which I want to belong in.

Work wise in their corporate world in my perception is scary.

[sky1985]

But its not that easy to migrate to japan. Foreigners mainly worked there. Their benefits r good for their citizen.

[Toro]

Thailand or Bali

[Friendly]

Thanks!

All are beautiful places, but do not hesitate: come to Paris!

Paris...is not the place for us, firstly its to X.... We are looking for reasonable country that we can live in..

[Phil]

Paris...is not the place for us, firstly its to X.... We are looking for reasonable country that we can live in..

I understand...

Anyway, good luck!

[abang]

By the look at things and the limited choices available, Thailand seems to be the obvious place.

It has the best airport network and most importantly, it is most gay-tolerant.

The standard of living is very acceptable and as I've mentioned earlier, I would consider opening a gay hostel for young gay people.

 

The younger set are likely to be more budget conscious and probably less demanding.

As long as your place is clean and comfortable, they wont be asking for the sky.

 

So, you two : Have a blessed marriage and a good life ahead.

Uncle Roland

[Friendly]

By the look at things and the limited choices available, Thailand seems to be the obvious place.

It has the best airport network and most importantly, it is most gay-tolerant.

The standard of living is very acceptable and as I've mentioned earlier, I would consider opening a gay hostel for young gay people.

 

The younger set are likely to be more budget conscious and probably less demanding.

As long as your place is clean and comfortable, they wont be asking for the sky.

 

So, you two : Have a blessed marriage and a good life ahead.

Uncle Roland

Thank you Uncle Roland, My bf just got his Spass to work in Singapore,and we are happy and will be visiting Thailand often to execute our plan. First thing first, would be going to New Zealand for our big day before end of this year.Do have a good life to you too. A Big thank you for all who have shared with us here.

[gstc82]

By the look at things and the limited choices available, Thailand seems to be the obvious place.

It has the best airport network and most importantly, it is most gay-tolerant.

The standard of living is very acceptable and as I've mentioned earlier, I would consider opening a gay hostel for young gay people.

The younger set are likely to be more budget conscious and probably less demanding.

As long as your place is clean and comfortable, they wont be asking for the sky.

So, you two : Have a blessed marriage and a good life ahead.

Uncle Roland

do u know abt laws of doing biz on Thailand? Property laws in Thailand? Thai culture ain't all "land of the smiles" all the time. Thailand faces price increase like sg, labour shortage in some parts. And Thai ain't as accepting as gays as u think.

[Kai87]

I asure you my friend that this post is very genuine. And yes here is part of our research. And for your information a three room hdb flat in Singapore i equal to very big house by the beach with garden in Myanmar. That is what i am saying.. And renter for shop houses in Countries like Myanmar and Thailand is much much cheaper then in Singapore. And so is labour. The problem is like eg... Myanmar still does not issue P.R and Thailand i need to find a local to have a 50 percent share for a business. I hope i have done my best to explain myself.

 

Great. So you have subconsciously narrowed your options to cheaper destinations like Myanmar and Thailand where your SG dollars brings you more value. I am sure fellow bw-ers will be able to advise more aptly with such information being available in the first place!

[jolterxtreme]

Singapore is no longer a place I can call home.

 

i want to find a husband and settle down with. And is seen ordinary in eyes of their locals.

 

i am thinking of swiss, Germany, Sweden, norway, Canada, Australia, Austria, New Zealand.

 

but first I need to get a husband from there.

[murano]

1 hour ago, jolterxtreme said:

Singapore is no longer a place I can call home.

 

i want to find a husband and settle down with. And is seen ordinary in eyes of their locals.

 

i am thinking of swiss, Germany, Sweden, norway, Canada, Australia, Austria, New Zealand.

 

but first I need to get a husband from there.

Taiwan

[Veloster]

I was born in Busan Korea and fly home often esp after COVID though I am pr here in sgp...I was invited two years back to apply for citizenship ..I refuse! 

[murano]

19 minutes ago, Veloster said:

I was born in Busan Korea and fly home often esp after COVID though I am pr here in sgp...I was invited two years back to apply for citizenship ..I refuse! 

Good choice. Cheaper to fly Jeju Air home than take up SG citizenship.

[Veloster]

I fly SQ only 😂 and it's still cheaper even in premium class 😂 

[murano]

Is Busan fun?

Edited yesterday at 10:10 AM by murano

[Veloster]

Def and it's so close to Jeju do or what we call Jeju island! Don't go summer time it's too crowded becos of the beach and it's rather expensive during that period ..so other periods are great esp spring and fall...and it's just a two hr forty mins ktx ride ...Korean type of a bullet train! One way depending different periods would cost between 55 and 65 SGD...

[kaiser74]

10 minutes ago, Veloster said:

Def and it's so close to Jeju do or what we call Jeju island! Don't go summer time it's too crowded becos of the beach and it's rather expensive during that period ..so other periods are great esp spring and fall...and it's just a two hr forty mins ktx ride ...Korean type of a bullet train! One way depending different periods would cost between 55 and 65 SGD...

Where are the fun places? I only knew all the touristy spots when I visited Busan during early Spring. 

[youdoyou]

4 hours ago, jolterxtreme said:

Singapore is no longer a place I can call home.

 

i want to find a husband and settle down with. And is seen ordinary in eyes of their locals.

 

i am thinking of swiss, Germany, Sweden, norway, Canada, Australia, Austria, New Zealand.

 

but first I need to get a husband from there.

Why is Singapore no longer a place you can call home?

[Veloster]

I call home but I nvr will say I call it my home becos I was born in Busan and although I lived here since secondary school ..I was educated in the USA and I travel widely ...and becos of that privilege in short I don't agree with the we are first class..we are first class in infrastructure but in terms of the way we behave again it's challenging to explain in a text form but in short we def can be better behaved...example I always when taking say the bus wish the captain and when I alight I am always the only one saying from the back thank you loudly...I see young parents pointing to our migrant workers and telling their kids if they mis behave these dark looking me will catch them etc...so is that how we educate our kids and mind you I seen and heard this mamy times...we are def far from being first class in terms of being a gracious nation ..enough said ..I am not going to say anymore...there are a few more examples...

[jolterxtreme]

2 hours ago, youdoyou said:

Why is Singapore no longer a place you can call home?

cause cannot find someone settle in singapore. also, i think gay men in singapore is quite closet and depressed regardless and that includes me. I travelled to sydney somewhere last month and I am in love with the gay scene there. Everyone is open with their sexuality and I can only envious for them being true to themselves and open themselves with anyone they wishes to.

[youdoyou]

8 hours ago, jolterxtreme said:

cause cannot find someone settle in singapore. also, i think gay men in singapore is quite closet and depressed regardless and that includes me. I travelled to sydney somewhere last month and I am in love with the gay scene there. Everyone is open with their sexuality and I can only envious for them being true to themselves and open themselves with anyone they wishes to.

I empathise, and agree with the lack of decent options here. But you can choose to be as open as you want here too. The same way people in Sydney are as open as they want to be. I mean, you’re going to find people who hide their sexuality everywhere. And I also think gay life shouldn’t be the only consideration in deciding to move.

Edited 21 hours ago by youdoyou

[Veloster]

58 minutes ago, youdoyou said:

I empathise, and agree with the lack of decent options here. But you can choose to be as open as you want here too. The same way people in Sydney are as open as they want to be. I mean, you’re going to find people who hide their sexuality everywhere. And I also think gay life shouldn’t be the only consideration in deciding to move.

I fully agree and as a bi sexual person I am open to all at work with my mom and my brother and everyone else ...I am open to all and yes gay life or whatever should not be the reason the only reason to move...for me I still love Korea more partly becos I was born there and since coming here in my adolescent years I been going back often plus going back there is even more conservative but the space to explore and also one day retiring early in life I love to do so outside a city as we have our farm outside Busan and although mom has her own restaurant and lives by herself and her two dogs. 

[radiusulnar]

Perhaps I am a frog in a well but for the moment I can't see where else I would go that is better than where I am now, here in Singapore

[paddle_up]

1 hour ago, radiusulnar said:

Perhaps I am a frog in a well but for the moment I can't see where else I would go that is better than where I am now, here in Singapore

 

Dont label yourself that sexy.

 

I reckoned there is no perfect place for retirement but the right fit for many of us.  Your priorities or what are important to you may be varied, so if the country managed to fulfill more of your expectations, its the right place for you to retire.

 

Having been overseas for years for studies and work, personally, safety is utmost important to me.  i dont get hostilty for my orientation.  During pandemic, at least, the country tried its very best to preserve my job by paying 75% of my salary, it tried to  secure vacinnes for my safety, it deploys flight to ferry SG citizens in crisis situations.  The strong dollars give me the capacity to indulge when i travel overseas for a break or let my hair down to be naughty.  However, gay marriage is not allowed, tripartite doesnt include me, high cost of living, and etc.

 

Nevertheless, this country is not perfect and never will it be but its the right fit for me currently.

[Cavalier]

I want to try living in new zealand or indonesia and see how things go.

 

life is slower-paced and the air seems fresher, with mountains to climb and seas to dive in.

[Veloster]

I once lived in Bali far from the touristy area .. Bali is five times the size of Singapore for three mths and I love every min of it esp when it was just after COVID ...learnt the culture etc the cuisine etc ..despite having been to Bali almost two dozen times before 😂 but those three mths changed me immensely and spiritually and I feel made me a better person!

But the Korean blood in me still feels different and each year when I go back to Korea at least twice a year ...I am always at mom's farm of oranges and water melons and it's just awesome to smell the fresh air the morning mist and lots more! Esp during spring and 🍂 🍁 fall seasons!

[paddle_up]

That is the goodness of it isnt it.  When one has live in other countries for quite a while, it makes one appreciate what one country has to offer as many a times, we take it for granted.

 

Learning from others also make us wiser as it allows us to appreciate the simplier things in life and not take it for granted.  Also, one need to put down other countries as i am sure we have learnt and gained from them in one way or another.  

[iKneadyou]

I think it all depends what is your goal. To settle with work, for business or to retire. I think every city has it’s pros and cons. 
 

For me, at this age, I prefer somewhere easy to do business. Bangkok or KL definitely in my list. Maybe even Taipei

[youdoyou]

3 hours ago, radiusulnar said:

Perhaps I am a frog in a well but for the moment I can't see where else I would go that is better than where I am now, here in Singapore

That’s absolutely fine. Everyone has different needs and expectations.

 

I lived overseas for a year and yes, it was liberating to be outside of Singapore, even though I was in a city with greater surveillance. But the bubble is the bubble. 
Coming back here at the start of Covid was painful, and I didn’t like it. I looked into moving elsewhere again, and had the opportunity a couple of times but it didn’t happen for different reasons.
 

And now, I’m not so sure anymore. The world is increasingly messy and xenophobic. Singapore has its own problems too, of course, but the push factor isn’t as strong as it used to be. Having said that though, I wouldn’t say no to live elsewhere again if the right opportunity arises, (almost) wherever that might be.

[hansgeiwst1]

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