All About The Haze (Compiled)

[Guest haze hater]

Yalor, advised him alrdy he still do it.. grrrrrrhhh

[Guest Guest]

Hey, my seventy plus mother doing ok leh, stil living life as normal.

At first i dun really beliv in stayin indoor since i have no mask, aircon or purifier, best i can do is shut doors n windows. It was this morning when i opened the door then i can SMELL the big diff!!! Stay indoor, but with de door n windows shut.

N one more thing, i m startg to feel a lil weird in de chest tis morning. Looks like have to give gym a miss.

I worry for those without air con or purifier, they do help a lot.

Closing the windows with no proper ventilation could be stuffy but better than the toxic haze.

For those who have, count your blessings.

But make sure you give your air con some rest.

My neighbour on his continuously for 2 days & they had broken down.

There's no need to on all. The air need to be clean & fresh, not necessarily cold.

Need to learn to conserve energy, too.

I turned on the air con (which I hated) in one room, opened the door, used a fan to circulate to the living room. My kitchen & toilet were closed off. When I woke up from a good night & went to the kitchen, there's a very distinct 'chow tar' smell.

Retire early, have a good night sleep to build up immunity to combat the haze the next morning.

[Guest Guest]

SOOOO PRO this 空姐.

She promptly removed her photo avatar after the saga.

But it's okay. We've saved a printscreen of her offending post.

Now we are investigating which airline she is flying with.

[Guest Guest]

i have no air con at home. i really can't stand the chow-tar smell in the house anymore. Can i ask if i close all the windows, will i suffocate to death?

 

i'm scared later i go to take a nap and don't wake up coz died in my sleep from lack of oxygen. Can someone who is more scientific advise me on this?

[angel_dust]

i have no air con at home. i really can't stand the chow-tar smell in the house anymore. Can i ask if i close all the windows, will i suffocate to death?

 

i'm scared later i go to take a nap and don't wake up coz died in my sleep from lack of oxygen. Can someone who is more scientific advise me on this?

 

You might want to consider buying this :

 

http://list.qoo10.sg/item/IPRO-2013-LATEST-DESIGN-WORLD-FIRST/410814594?selectedOptions=

[Guest Guest]

She promptly removed her photo avatar after the saga.

But it's okay. We've saved a printscreen of her offending post.

Now we are investigating which airline she is flying with.

Air Iraq? Iranian Air?

[Longpath]

This message is not Directly from my friend.

A friend works for NEA and here's what she advises: Hi all, pls make sure that u keep all windows shut at all times n bathroom doors too. Wat u breathe in gets lodged deep in ur lungs n can't get out. It's the PM2.5 particulate matter that's dangerous
Make sure u cover your nose when outdoors
Seems last night psi was actually 462 and not 300+ as reported.
FYI!!!
These particles are called PM10 (10 refers to the size in microns of the particulate matters). Breathing in an excess of these particles can increase a person’s risk of developing viral and bacterial infections, as well as heart and lung diseases, cancer and stroke. While the bigger air particles are filtered out by the respiratory tract, tiny particles are typically deposited in the lungs. These tiny particles can accumulate over time and harm the body.
So wear a substitute mask if N95 is out of stock.

 

Please TC all! (By Me)

[jason]

[jason]

maybe he can use this giant fan to fan back the haze to indonesia ? :twisted:

Edited June 21, 2013 by jason

[IkuTube]

How long have u been in BW?

 

Why u keep creating various threads on haze when the mods have clearly merge all the threads together? U should be banned from posting new topics. All your topics are lame and most copy and paste from stomp. 

 

Note to Crumpler

 

I kinda agree with imchaser.  While the intention is good that you are contributing to post, we appreciate if you could co-operate to post all matters relating to the haze in this thread in future.

 

IkuTube

[imchaser]

This message is not Directly from my friend.

A friend works for NEA and here's what she advises: Hi all, pls make sure that u keep all windows shut at all times n bathroom doors too. Wat u breathe in gets lodged deep in ur lungs n can't get out. It's the PM2.5 particulate matter that's dangerous

Make sure u cover your nose when outdoors

Seems last night psi was actually 462 and not 300+ as reported.

FYI!!!

These particles are called PM10 (10 refers to the size in microns of the particulate matters). Breathing in an excess of these particles can increase a person’s risk of developing viral and bacterial infections, as well as heart and lung diseases, cancer and stroke. While the bigger air particles are filtered out by the respiratory tract, tiny particles are typically deposited in the lungs. These tiny particles can accumulate over time and harm the body.

So wear a substitute mask if N95 is out of stock.

 

Please TC all! (By Me)

 

 

 

Wow. So she advise us to close the damn window and wear a mask....

 

 

What a groundbreaking advise.

Edited June 21, 2013 by imchaser

[Guest Guest]

How long have u been in BW?

 

Why u keep creating various threads on haze when the mods have clearly merge all the threads together? U should be banned from posting new topics. All your topics are lame and most copy and paste from stomp. 

 

u can just say nicely....

 

at least he contribute something.....instead of you just bitching

[Guest Guest]

everyone should buy N95 mask and wear it outdoors now....

 

dun have to care about looks or feel paiseh....i know some gays will....

 

the fine particles we breathe in are really bad for our health....

[Guest Guest]

ok please dun quarrel ... we got more serious problems to tackle now. Did you read the latest on Straits Times? Let's all pray for rain because the Indonesians say they are overwhelmed and can't do anything about the fires unless a miracle happens in the form of a downpour ... my goodness gracious!

[Guest Guest]

everyone should buy N95 mask and wear it outdoors now....

 

dun have to care about looks or feel paiseh....i know some gays will....

 

the fine particles we breathe in are really bad for our health....

 

I want to buy N95 but can you tell me where to buy? Everywhere it's out of stock.

[imchaser]

u can just say nicely....

 

at least he contribute something.....instead of you just bitching

 

Im sorry but im no Snowball. Guys with annoying animation picture as signature doesnt deserve to be treated nice. lol.

[lausanne]

You know, at the beginning of the year, when I was transiting through Beijing, the air was just as bad, probably even worse.

 

You also probably heard that their air quality was so bad that it exceeded whatever measurements or scales that were in use at that time.

 

I just got off the plane one day before this article was written, and I had totally no idea what it was when I deplaned and smelt a burning soot smell in the air - could it be the airplane fuel burning? It doesn't smell like that, I told myself. Later I was told that I came at one of the worst times of the year when the air was at its worst.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/science/earth/beijing-air-pollution-off-the-charts.html?_r=0

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/02/28/the-most-shocking-photo-of-beijing-air-pollution-ive-ever-seen/

 

Is there any other official source, other than the one by the NEA? The US Embassy in Beijing and Consulate in Shanghai run their own indexes, as an alternative to the official government index. I just checked the US embassy in Singapore website, and there is apparently no alternative index. We really should know about it if the pollution goes "off the scale".

 

Please share if you know any other alternative index.

[Guest Guest]

Do you guys know if water humidifiers are useful as well in place of actual air purifiers?

 

eg:

[Guest Guest]

 

Is there any other official source, other than the one by the NEA? The US Embassy in Beijing and Consulate in Shanghai run their own indexes, as an alternative to the official government index. I just checked the US embassy in Singapore website, and there is apparently no alternative index. We really should know about it if the pollution goes "off the scale".

 

Please share if you know any other alternative index.

 

i heard the PSI index can get really bad at certain hours but the govt toned down it so as not to scare citizens.

 

anyone can verify or think its true?

[Guest haze hater]

Suddenly the PSI at 168 feels so mild... n air so fresh

[lausanne]

Actually, to stretch the discussion further, can this can be considered a kind of warfare? I mean, how different is it as compared to poisoning our water supplies, or cutting off our water supplies? Our air is literally being poisoned. I think there are also defense related aspects to this as well, not just the environment related aspect.

[Guest Guest]

"Singapore child is being suffocated," says ESM Goh

 

As the haze in Singapore creeps up to over 400, Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong has declared that the "the Singapore Child is being suffocated".

 

SINGAPORE: As the haze in Singapore creeps up to over 400, Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong has declared that the "the Singapore Child is being suffocated".

 

In his latest Facebook post, he asked how can the child not scream?

 

Mr Goh noted how former Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi used to say that Malaysians and Singaporeans are like neighbours living in a pair of semi-detached houses.

 

Mr Goh said that what each does will affect the other.

 

"So we have to be considerate in our behaviour, like not putting on the TV too loudly or burning our garden refuse openly if the smoke will enter our neighbour's house," he added.

 

Indonesia, said Mr Goh, does not share a semi-detached house with Malaysia or Singapore. However, he said its detached bungalow is in the same housing estate. Thus, Mr Goh said Mr Badawi's analogy of neighbourly behaviour still applies.

 

He added that Sumatra is a big place and forest and peat fires are not easy to put out, unlike lallang or bush fires, which are small and confined.

 

"They burn and smoulder over thousands of acres in remote places far from the reach of fire fighters," he said.

 

Thus, he said it is best to prevent man-made, illegal fires from being started in the first place. But as of now, Mr Goh said that "the Singapore child better learn to survive the tortuous smog and haze."

- CNA/ac

[Guest Guest]

KNN indonesia is fucking irresponsible.....but whats the use of pointing fingers at them lightly?

[Guest haze hater]

I want to buy N95 but can you tell me where to buy? Everywhere it's out of stock.

Hi, i pre-ordered mine at... all deals asia dot com... pls read the terms n conditions before u decide whether to buy or not

Meanwhile, i have to stay alive till i collect the masks :-)

Heng is near one of de sauna, can visit de sauna after collectn

[Guest Guest]

Hi, i pre-ordered mine at... all deals asia dot com... pls read the terms n conditions before u decide whether to buy or not

Meanwhile, i have to stay alive till i collect the masks :-)

Heng is near one of de sauna, can visit de sauna after collectn

Siow, sauna so dark & hazy. Can you still find the hole?

[Guest Guest]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/6-out-of-7-air-purifiers/718194.html

 

LOL

 

"The air purifier from Panasonic (model F-PMF35A) was the only one that did not perform as claimed in the advertisement.

 

It was advertised to be able to inhibit 99 per cent mould, fungus and bacteria but the test results for total bacteria count and total yeast and mould count showed that the elimination rate was less than 99 per cent.

 

CASE said it has met up and advised Panasonic to either withdraw or amend their claims.

 

The local consumer watchdog commissioned the test in April 2013 because of the recent trend of consumers purchasing air purifiers to improve the air quality in their environment.

 

CASE advises consumers to compare prices and performance of air purifiers between brands before deciding which brand and model to purchase."

[Guest Guest]

Do you guys know if water humidifiers are useful as well in place of actual air purifiers?

 

eg:

No, we use humidifiers because the air is too dry, for example cold weather or in an air con space.

If not , we would wake up with nose bleed due dry nasal passages. The air is cooler due to the water vapour from the humidifier. It does not purify the air.

Air Purifier are those with filters. There's also LED indicators to let you know when you have to change/wash the filter. The price range are from $200 up to $800. Some latest air con model has this function plus ionizer. There are the cheaper brands like Mistral, Sharp has some mid range model. But the really good ones costs like $800 or even higher. Best to have a purifier in each room, with or without the fog. It's a good investment for yourself & family.

[Guest Guest]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/6-out-of-7-air-purifiers/718194.html

 

LOL

 

"The air purifier from Panasonic (model F-PMF35A) was the only one that did not perform as claimed in the advertisement.

 

It was advertised to be able to inhibit 99 per cent mould, fungus and bacteria but the test results for total bacteria count and total yeast and mould count showed that the elimination rate was less than 99 per cent.

'Jien Shan'

 

CASE said it has met up and advised Panasonic to either withdraw or amend their claims.

 

The local consumer watchdog commissioned the test in April 2013 because of the recent trend of consumers purchasing air purifiers to improve the air quality in their environment.

 

CASE advises consumers to compare prices and performance of air purifiers between brands before deciding which brand and model to purchase."

Jien Shan.

All purifiers works the same.

The poor gets the cheaper & bigger ones

The rich gets the brand & better designed ones.

[Blacque]

Hope the cloud seeding commences asap. 

[Guest Guest]

No, we use humidifiers because the air is too dry, for example cold weather or in an air con space.

If not , we would wake up with nose bleed due dry nasal passages. The air is cooler due to the water vapour from the humidifier. It does not purify the air.

Air Purifier are those with filters. There's also LED indicators to let you know when you have to change/wash the filter. The price range are from $200 up to $800. Some latest air con model has this function plus ionizer. There are the cheaper brands like Mistral, Sharp has some mid range model. But the really good ones costs like $800 or even higher. Best to have a purifier in each room, with or without the fog. It's a good investment for yourself & family.

 

so am i right to say that air humidifier might do more harm than good since the water vapour might mix together with the harmful air particles from the haze and in turn we breathe it in?

[GachiMuchi]

so am i right to say that air humidifier might do more harm than good since the water vapour might mix together with the harmful air particles from the haze and in turn we breathe it in?

I think you should look at Air Filters or Sterilisers instead of humidifier. 

[MeowPrince]

Haiz.  And now there are "enterprising" profiteers selling N95 masks online at $75/box. 

 

At least the haze has subsided a little for now.

[TheVisitors]

 

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-drink-man-woman-16/%5Bgpgt%5D-seriousness-haze-photo-taken-%40-sg-east-coast-4262992.html

Nice cropping...good framing !!!

 

Actually I am more concern with two things

 

1) the chemical and possible toxic caused by the induced rain the next few days

 

2) the animals and plants been burned alive or suffocated to the death. A BW member on a business trip in Jakarta said the PSI

    there is as high as 700 ....

Edited June 21, 2013 by TheVisitors

[Guest Guest]

I want to buy N95 but can you tell me where to buy? Everywhere it's out of stock.

I was at both Unity pharmacy and Guardian pharmacy this afternoon and ask the staff when the N95 will eventually come in and they told me maybe 1 to 2 weeks. I think by then I'll be dead if I really need the N95 for breathing!!

[Guest Guest]

I thought the news yesterday said N95 masks all restocked liao?

[Guest Guest]

I thought the news yesterday said N95 masks all restocked liao?

Tat was wat I told the staff at unity and guardian but they were as clueless as I. How can we manage a crisis like this one if even the most basic item like the N95 can't be found anywhere? From abt every 20 ppl I saw wearing masks, only one is wearing a N95 and the rest are wearing something that offers absolutely no protection against the haze. Seeing things like this going on is more scary than seeing the PSI hitting 400!

[Guest Guest]

Hope the cloud seeding commences asap. 

There're planes and equipment all ready but the elusive cloud needed for seeding simply won't show up,  

[Guest Guest]

KNN indonesia is fucking irresponsible.....but whats the use of pointing fingers at them lightly?

If any Singaporean were to die (touch wood) as a direct result of this haze, indonesia will have blood on its hands and it will be murder!

[snowball]

If any Singaporean were to die (touch wood) as a direct result of this haze, indonesia will have blood on its hands and it will be murder!

do you think they care?

[Guest Guest]

only one is wearing a N95 and the rest are wearing something that offers absolutely no protection against the haze.

 

women can double up their bra as mask and wear on their face.

[snowball]

long queue at watson and guardian giving their name and numbers in the wating lists for masks.

[Guest Guest]

women can double up their bra as mask and wear on their face.

haha...then their breasts will be exposed!!

[Guest Guest]

If any Singaporean were to die (touch wood) as a direct result of this haze, indonesia will have blood on its hands and it will be murder!

 

why would they care? they just need to give a loud fart and sg will be gone.

 

is indonesia jealous of sg achievements or what?

 

from CNA:

 

The haze crisis has caused tensions to escalate dramatically between tiny Singapore and its vast neighbour, with the city-state repeatedly demanding that Jakarta step up its efforts to put out the fires.

 

However, Indonesian officials have become irate at the demands, and on Thursday the minister coordinating Jakarta's response to the crisis accused Singapore of acting "like a child".

[Guest Guest]

do you think they care?

Of course they don't care....they are murderers

[Guest Guest]

haha...then their breasts will be exposed!!

 

not that we care right?

 

so........straight men can use their briefs and double up as masks?

[Guest Guest]

If any Singaporean were to die (touch wood) as a direct result of this haze, indonesia will have blood on its hands and it will be murder!

Pls show concern & check on elderly neighbour & friends to see how they are doing.

Check if they need anything such as mask.

I met one who did not turn on the air con due to some family politics.

She does not want to be the initiator so she resisted.

Also dun turn air con full blast at 16 degrees for 24 hrs.

It is still bearable now. Turn it on before you sleep, then on the fan to circulate.

Dun overload the Power Plant.

[Guest Guest]

haha...then their breasts will be exposed!!

& turned black.

[Guest Guest]

why would they care? they just need to give a loud fart and sg will be gone.

 

is indonesia jealous of sg achievements or what?

 

from CNA:

 

The haze crisis has caused tensions to escalate dramatically between tiny Singapore and its vast neighbour, with the city-state repeatedly demanding that Jakarta step up its efforts to put out the fires.

 

However, Indonesian officials have become irate at the demands, and on Thursday the minister coordinating Jakarta's response to the crisis accused Singapore of acting "like a child".

It's because Indonesia is acting 'like a child' playing wif fire. Light the fire but now don't know how to put it out and blaming everyone else.

[Guest Guest]

better dun go saunas this period....most people not very 'healthy'...

[Guest Guest]

why would they care? they just need to give a loud fart and sg will be gone.

 

is indonesia jealous of sg achievements or what?

 

from CNA:

 

The haze crisis has caused tensions to escalate dramatically between tiny Singapore and its vast neighbour, with the city-state repeatedly demanding that Jakarta step up its efforts to put out the fires.

 

However, Indonesian officials have become irate at the demands, and on Thursday the minister coordinating Jakarta's response to the crisis accused Singapore of acting "like a child".

I remember those forest fire in US, many fire fighter were called in to put out the fire.

It was declared a state emergency of great concern on many lvls - lives, ecology, pollution, etc.

I guess the whole world is watching with disappointment & deeply disturbed by such a childish reply from the other side.