All About The Haze (Compiled)

[Guest Guest]

Hi. The haze cleared for today is due to slight change in wind direction. The NEA said that the haze will return tomorrow and expects a 24-hour PSI to be around 201-300 within the VERY UNHEALTHY range. Don't keep your masks yet!

Let's all pray to the Wind God.

[Guest Guest]

What's worse is that N95 masks r sold out everywhere !

The Guardian pharmacy at my house there can still put a notice which reads " no face marks on Saturday & Sunday "

My goodness... In such hazardous situation that is affecting nationwide there is no sense of emergency to quickly bring in stocks for replenishment.

I wonder if all of us can handle a real war situation...

I still can't get even one N95 mask after 4 days where PSI has been hitting hazardous zone. So I think we won't even hve a chance of handling a real war.....we'll all be dead b4 the war start.

[Guest Guest]

I still can't get even one N95 mask after 4 days where PSI has been hitting hazardous zone. So I think we won't even hve a chance of handling a real war.....we'll all be dead b4 the war start.

 

get from qoo10. dun wait for govt to give it free if u really need it.

 

my sis was lucky to buy it from coy doctor.

[Guest Guest]

get from qoo10. dun wait for govt to give it free if u really need it.

 

my sis was lucky to buy it from coy doctor.

I'm not waiting for free mask from govt. Just wan to be able to buy from a convenient pharmacy. The unity pharmacy started selling partially 2day but the queue is so damn long. I was told tat in the morning each person was limited to buying 10 pcs only and by afternoon each can only buy 4 pcs as the stock was running low so fast. When I saw how long the queue was I gave up bcos for sure there'll b no mask left when my turn comes.

 

Anyway i'm just one of many many ppl stuck here who are very frustrated bcos we were told by govt 4 days ago not to worry abt N95 masks as they hve 9 millions in stock!! I just hope the haze end soon with heavy downpours and ppl don't need those masks anymore and the masks will become a laughing stock. And go to hell wif the 9 million laughing stock.

[allyremen]

not sure about this....other parts of the world hv their own probs to handle....

 

sg always get 'bullied' by the big neighbours.....now u know why Ah Gong since last time want sporeans to excel in many areas and 'be better' than them and try to stand on our own feet...

 

Many younger Singaporeans failed to see the visions of LKY. Singapore must EXCEL in many things to stand up. Even Malaysia (my home country), much bigger than Singapore, get bullied by Indonesia and we felt that our government "appeared" to have to kowtow to them.

[Guest Guest]

When I saw how long the queue was I gave up bcos for sure there'll b no mask left when my turn comes.

 

 

make a big fuss at the counter, throw tantrums and appear to cry.....sure will have people give up one of their masks to you.

[Guest Guest]

i dun get it....shld we follow the 3h psi or 24h psi?

[Guest Guest]

make a big fuss at the counter, throw tantrums and appear to cry.....sure will have people give up one of their masks to you.

only crazy ppl like u will do tat. I rather die from the haze instead.

[Guest Guest]

Many younger Singaporeans failed to see the visions of LKY. Singapore must EXCEL in many things to stand up. Even Malaysia (my home country), much bigger than Singapore, get bullied by Indonesia and we felt that our government "appeared" to have to kowtow to them.

 

thats why indonesia gets earthquakes.....oops im so bad......but karma really goes around..

[Guest Guest]

i dun get it....shld we follow the 3h psi or 24h psi?

I also dun get it......many many ppl also dun get it.....we dun get wat these technical stuff means and we dun get the masks too. All we get is the damn haze......actually everyone who's trying to get the N95 mask don't really know under wat situation the N95 is really necessary. There is whole lot of confusion here even among the medical professions. Does the PM2.5 cause cancer? Nobody knows!

[Guest Guest]

thats why indonesia gets earthquakes.....oops im so bad......but karma really goes around..

Not only earthquakes, tsunami too, volcanic eruptions also, landslides...floods...terrorist attacks....so must be very bad karma.

[Wind0206]

Anyone know why the haze suddenly gone?? Was in my office whole day. So happy to see the skies cleared when I came out. Hehe

The haze has been blown to malaysia johor~ hope everywhere has clear sky soon!!!

[Exynos]

it's verty interesting... discussing about the haze with my PC, PS, and the ICT guys in my unit. it's like wow I'm part of history twice, in 1997 & now 2013? I really hope the haze clears soon though... wearing the N95 is really irritating

[Guest Guest]

I also dun get it......many many ppl also dun get it.....we dun get wat these technical stuff means and we dun get the masks too. All we get is the damn haze......actually everyone who's trying to get the N95 mask don't really know under wat situation the N95 is really necessary. There is whole lot of confusion here even among the medical professions. Does the PM2.5 cause cancer? Nobody knows!

 

chill honey.....give u a kiss

[snowball]

Not only earthquakes, tsunami too, volcanic eruptions also, landslides...floods...terrorist attacks....so must be very bad karma.

别幸灾乐祸, 通常受苦的可是无辜的百姓。心肠若不好和无良之人有何分别?

[HendryTan]

Passed NTUC Unity Pharmacy 9+pm. There was a queue about 20 long for N95 mask.

I was told there was a very long queue in the afternoon.

Each N95 mask selling for $2.50. Sizes are adult and children.

[Guest Guest]

别幸灾乐祸, 通常受苦的可是无辜的百姓。心肠若不好和无良之人有何分别?

can u post in English? no everyone can read Chinese here in an English forum

[Guest Guest]

I have access to the N95 mask but did not bother to buy.

I would rather stay in house as much as possible

Make sure the air purifier (btw, are the also out of stock, too/)is on with proper ventilation of clean air in my space.

Have good quality & ample sleep.

Relax my mind & muscle (heard my friend having headache & muscle ache)

Eat healthy food(raw garlic, onions, lime juice, yoghurt, red pepper) to boost immunity.

Don't get too agitated & let the haze situation control your moods.

Make the best of this current situation.

Call your friends or ex-bfs(hehe) to find out how they coping.

[Guest Guest]

can u post in English? no everyone can read Chinese here in an English forum

 

why so rude. u can just skip it

[Guest Guest]

Passed NTUC Unity Pharmacy 9+pm. There was a queue about 20 long for N95 mask.

I was told there was a very long queue in the afternoon.

Each N95 mask selling for $2.50. Sizes are adult and children.

 

Guys, if im not wrong, some CCs are starting to distribute N95 masks already.

 

quickly go grab them on sunday morning.

[snowball]

不是每个人都适合戴上N95, 最好事先请教询问, 如你有哮喘, 心脏弱等, 而且不宜长时间戴上。

Edited June 22, 2013 by snowball

[Guest Guest]

I have access to the N95 mask but did not bother to buy.

I would rather stay in house as much as possible

Make sure the air purifier (btw, are the also out of stock, too/)is on with proper ventilation of clean air in my space.

Have good quality & ample sleep.

Relax my mind & muscle (heard my friend having headache & muscle ache)

Eat healthy food(raw garlic, onions, lime juice, yoghurt, red pepper) to boost immunity.

Don't get too agitated & let the haze situation control your moods.

Make the best of this current situation.

Call your friends or ex-bfs(hehe) to find out how they coping.

So is the N95 mask really needed by everyone? Under wat circumstances should one who is healthy have the mask ready for use or should everyone keep some in case the PSI hit 500? Wif PSI above hazardous level for almost 2 days, wat definitive health impacts are there without wearing these masks? There are so many unanswered questions regarding the specific use of the N95 masks in the current haze situation. Whether one has the N95 or not doesn't seems to follow any scientific reasons.

 

Those of us who lived through the 1997-1998 haze didn't even heard of N95 then. But then the highest PSI was 226. It was during the SARS 2003 that we started to know of N95. It was mostly used by medical staff in hospitals then. So, if not for SARS, today ppl won't even know tat they should go round looking the illusive N95.

[Guest Guest]

why so rude. u can just skip it

hello im the guest whom the snowball reply and I don't know wat the hell he's saying!! I think u r fucking rude

[Guest Guest]

why so rude. u can just skip it

hello im the guest whom the snowball reply and I don't know wat the hell he's saying!! I think u r fucking rude

[Guest Guest]

Guys, if im not wrong, some CCs are starting to distribute N95 masks already.

 

quickly go grab them on sunday morning.

The CC distributions are not for everyone.....they are for the low income residents

[Boo]

Praying that it won't worsen over the night. 

[Guest Guest]

im just curious, how often should we change our N95 masks if say, we wear it moderately everyday?

[Guest Guest]

The CC distributions are not for everyone.....they are for the low income residents

 

oh yea just realised....

[Guest Guest]

im just curious, how often should we change our N95 masks if say, we wear it moderately everyday?

Many ppl queuing to buy N95 also like u and me still don't know when to change. I tried google...but guidelines are pretty vague in particular when using N95 in this haze situation. Another very important aspect of wearing N95 in contrast to wearing the common medical mask is facial fit. Because we are wearing the N95 to keep out the haze when breathing, a less than perfect fit means the haze still get pass the gaps between the edges of the mask and the face resulting in the PM2.5 travelling to the lungs.

[Guest mark]

So i presume the mask has to be fitted quite tightly onto our faces

Which means, after removing de mask, there will be a temp mark on ur face? Jus like wat happen when we remove our swimmg goggles

[Guest Guest]

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/this_urban_jungle/1847430/foreign_minister_says.html

 

(Indo) Foreign Minister says Indonesia will not apologise to Singapore for haze

 

Foreign Affairs Minister Marty Natalegawa has said the Indonesian government will not issue an apology to Singapore for the haze crisis.

Singapore has never asked for an apology from Indonesia, only action to stop the haze.

According to a report in The Straits Times, Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said he hoped the Indonesians would adopt a neighbourly spirit. This came after remarks from an Indonesian minister saying that Singapore's reaction to the haze was childish.

Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam said Singapore had offered assistance at all levels, from aircraft to manpower, to Indonesia to combat the haze.

But unlike in 2005 when the Indonesians accepted assistance from Singapore, the current offer has yet to be taken up.

Mr Natalegawa insisted the Indonesian government would do everything it could to tackle the problem, reports The Jakarta Post/Asia News Network.

“The Singaporean government must be aware that we have done all we can to tackle this haze problem. Indonesia has been dealing with this for years and improvements have been made,” Mr Natalegawa said.

Mr Natalegawa added that both governments had worked together to tackle the problem, sharing information regarding the latest situation on the ground.

For example, he said, Singapore’s environment minister had been sent here to discuss the best possible solutions with his Indonesian counterpart.

Current visibility in Singapore is very limited and air pollution has breached ‘hazardous’ levels.

Similar conditions are also being seen in Indonesian cities like Pekanbaru in Riau and Jambi.

The haze is coming from fires in many locations in Sumatra and West Kalimantan.

[Guest N95 not for children]

Passed NTUC Unity Pharmacy 9+pm. There was a queue about 20 long for N95 mask.

I was told there was a very long queue in the afternoon.

Each N95 mask selling for $2.50. Sizes are adult and children.

R u sure they are selling children N95 masks?

I read the following from the Govt Haze Emergency 101 website:  http://www.e101.gov.sg/haze/mask.htm

 

'3. What about children? Children's N95 masks are not available.

N95 masks are not designed for use on children or people with facial hair (e.g. beards), because it is difficult to achieve a proper fit, since these masks are designed to seal to the wearer’s face. Children should therefore minimize outdoor activity at PSI levels above 100, and avoid all outdoor activity if 24-hour PSI levels reach higher than 300.'

 

I'm quite confused now. Should or should not children wear N95 masks? Parents buying N95 masks for their children might end up doing more harm than good.

[SuperSentai]

For children, the elderly and pregnant, the best advise for them is to stay indoors with closed doors and windows, because when worn properly, it is actually a bit difficult to breathe through the n95 mask; air flow through the mask is actually reduced compared to normal breathing without the mask.

[junxiang]

Do u guys notice something missing lately? the rain and the wind.

 

each time I walk my dog, notice all the grass dying, all brown.

 

If only we have rain now ......

[jason]

Many younger Singaporeans failed to see the visions of LKY. Singapore must EXCEL in many things to stand up. Even Malaysia (my home country), much bigger than Singapore, get bullied by Indonesia and we felt that our government "appeared" to have to kowtow to them.

 

 

which part of malaysia are you in ? If JB, could it be b'cos JB now taken over by opposition so BN rather let the opposition party settle the haze issue ?

[Guest nonsense 24hr psi]

NUS PHD student: referring to 24hr PSI is Non sense & Dangerous !

This is dangerous nonsense. Does one whose house is burning around him make a decision whether to leave the premises based on 24-hour average temperature? Just as that person would be burned to death in minutes if he decided to stay in a burning building, similarly, serious lung damage could be sustained by one breathing in high PSI air for short durations like 15 minutes.

Has the relatively recent smoke grenade fatality involving a young NSF not taught us that fine particulate matter in air can be harmful in short intense exposure? Or has the poor young man been forgotten? Granted, that tragic case is not identical, but there are important similarities.

(The PAP Government should be reminded of the basic fact that if a 3-hour average PSI reading is, for instance, 300, then there must have been 10/20-minute average PSI readings in the relevant 3-hour time span above 300. Possibly significantly above 300.)

It is certainly true that the health impacts of air pollutants are determined both by the concentration and also the duration of exposure. But what the PAP Government is saying is truly incredible, and incredible claims have to be backed up by evidence.

If the government can put forth credible evidence that exposures of 10 to 20 minutes, common for simple necessary actions like walking to the bus stop and waiting for the bus, to PSI levels of over 200 has negligible ill-effects. We should take note and relax a little. But in the absence of such credible evidence, it is only safe and reasonable to assume that such exposure should be actively avoided because such exposures may cause complications; Complications that may be much more severe in some than others.

The PAP Government should not misinform Singaporeans about the haze threat. It is dangerous and does Singaporeans a huge disservice.

Jeremy Chen

 

[Lonelyboy90]

Do u guys notice something missing lately? the rain and the wind.

 

each time I walk my dog, notice all the grass dying, all brown.

 

If only we have rain now ......

 

like abit kua zhang leh, grass all dried brown. lol.

[Guest Guest]

So i presume the mask has to be fitted quite tightly onto our faces

Which means, after removing de mask, there will be a temp mark on ur face? Jus like wat happen when we remove our swimmg goggles

Then all look like they are from 'Planet of The Apes'.

Just came back from Cold Storage & ppl, including expats are asking for the price & buying.

I m not a mask person. It makes me feel even worst with a mask on.

I prefer to just use my hanky to cover while I m out or if it get worst, dampen it with water. Carry a bottle/tissue with you when out to replenish or moisten your itchy eyes.

In times like this, dun panic.

Just live each day as you so & make adjustments & changes to your routine,habit & diet if need be.

Those who need to go out for makan during lunch time could consider bringing healthy cooked food from home to eat in the office. Have a Anti-haze potluck in the office, each bring healthy food/fruit/drinks to share, like green bean soup, salad, non-fried food, etc. Minimise your physical contact with the haze. Start a car pool so that colleagues would not be out in the haze waiting for public transport. If you are the driver, offer to send them home. If you are a passenger, chip in for the petrol or buy breakfast nxt morning. Show concern & support each other.

Stay positive & make the best of this situation.

[Guest haze hater]

Then all look like they are from 'Planet of The Apes'.

Just came back from Cold Storage & ppl, including expats are asking for the price & buying.

I m not a mask person. It makes me feel even worst with a mask on.

I prefer to just use my hanky to cover while I m out or if it get worst, dampen it with water. Carry a bottle/tissue with you when out to replenish or moisten your itchy eyes.

In times like this, dun panic.

Just live each day as you so & make adjustments & changes to your routine,habit & diet if need be.

Those who need to go out for makan during lunch time could consider bringing healthy cooked food from home to eat in the office. Have a Anti-haze potluck in the office, each bring healthy food/fruit/drinks to share, like green bean soup, salad, non-fried food, etc. Minimise your physical contact with the haze. Start a car pool so that colleagues would not be out in the haze waiting for public transport. If you are the driver, offer to send them home. If you are a passenger, chip in for the petrol or buy breakfast nxt morning. Show concern & support each other.

Stay positive & make the best of this situation.

Hey dude, great suggestions!!!

I am sure ur colleagues find it a blessing to be wkg with u.

[Guest Guest]

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/this_urban_jungle/1847430/foreign_minister_says.html

 

(Indo) Foreign Minister says Indonesia will not apologise to Singapore for haze

 

Foreign Affairs Minister Marty Natalegawa has said the Indonesian government will not issue an apology to Singapore for the haze crisis.

Singapore has never asked for an apology from Indonesia, only action to stop the haze.

According to a report in The Straits Times, Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said he hoped the Indonesians would adopt a neighbourly spirit. This came after remarks from an Indonesian minister saying that Singapore's reaction to the haze was childish.

Foreign Minister K. Shanmugam said Singapore had offered assistance at all levels, from aircraft to manpower, to Indonesia to combat the haze.

But unlike in 2005 when the Indonesians accepted assistance from Singapore, the current offer has yet to be taken up.

Mr Natalegawa insisted the Indonesian government would do everything it could to tackle the problem, reports The Jakarta Post/Asia News Network.

“The Singaporean government must be aware that we have done all we can to tackle this haze problem. Indonesia has been dealing with this for years and improvements have been made,” Mr Natalegawa said.

Mr Natalegawa added that both governments had worked together to tackle the problem, sharing information regarding the latest situation on the ground.

For example, he said, Singapore’s environment minister had been sent here to discuss the best possible solutions with his Indonesian counterpart.

Current visibility in Singapore is very limited and air pollution has breached ‘hazardous’ levels.

Similar conditions are also being seen in Indonesian cities like Pekanbaru in Riau and Jambi.

The haze is coming from fires in many locations in Sumatra and West Kalimantan.

 

yeah ok the next time they kena some massive earthquake they can forget about aid 

[Guest Guest]

yeah ok the next time they kena some massive earthquake they can forget about aid

When you help others, you help yourself.

When you harm others, you harm yourself.

[allyremen]

which part of malaysia are you in ? If JB, could it be b'cos JB now taken over by opposition so BN rather let the opposition party settle the haze issue ?

 

Johor is still BN, not opposition. I am in Sarawak and we have escaped the worst of the haze so far though in 1997, Kuching's PM10 API reached 839....the highest recorded in Malaysia ever!

[Guest Guest]

hey guys i saw that there are different types of N95 masks around.

 

any type or version is ok right? which version are u guys using?

[Guest Guest]

hey guys i saw that there are different types of N95 masks around.

 

any type or version is ok right? which version are u guys using?

M1 one is more well designed & fits better.

[Guest Guest]

M1 one is more well designed & fits better.

Sorril should be 3M. aftermath of the haze ;(

[junxiang]

When you help others, you help yourself.

When you harm others, you harm yourself.

If these ppl can think so far-sightedly, they will be a threat to us-economically.

[Guest Guest]

Sorril should be 3M. aftermath of the haze ;(

 

even among 3M theres different types. i think most people using 8210.

[Guest Guest]

i heard some sellers in qoo10 are selling non-authentic N95 masks.

 

i think still best to get it at pharmacies, supermarkets or hospitals....

[zzzzzzzz]

i ordered some from alibaba, 3M 8210, stocks arrive tomorrow. selling them at cost, not earning anything, just ordered huge stock to help the distribution of the masks among the community. let me know if you need any.

[qez]

i ordered some from alibaba, 3M 8210, stocks arrive tomorrow. selling them at cost, not earning anything, just ordered huge stock to help the distribution of the masks among the community. let me know if you need any.

Too late, supermarkets and pharmacies now got stock.