tanetalz Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 TenetaizPlease let it be known that when one becomes positive with the virus, he has a .."carte blanca.." to carry on sex freely cos he has nothing more to fear or loose. That is a very wrong misconception. The fact of the matter is that he may be infected a second time. And the second infection may be fatal cos the virus is of different strains and more deadly. The virus mutates from body to body.Hi, I think you've done a good job in adding more insight yourself - Thank you. Have a look at the link by azchuan(apologies if I got your name wrong) about bugchasers and gift-givers, it makes for good reading.In addition, given the mutating nature of the virus, would a test-kit for one strain of the virus be sufficient to detect variants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deceptiveeyes.deceivingminds Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Thanks AzuChan for sharing the article on bug chaser. You may already know this for some time but for me, this is something new! I am shocked to learn of such bizarre behaviour because it never occurred to me that a mentally sane person would seek out intentional actions to hurt or cause physical harm to himself. Perhaps this is something like an extension of sadomaschoism or a warped mind? I'm shocked and at the same time it makes me ponder about what made them went fatalistic? Anyway, I'm getting off-course in this discussion...I think it is important then for people to know and to take action just like you said...knowledge is latent but taking action is critical!Play but always be safe!We should strongly share such information and at the same time take concrete action to stop such irresponsible behaviours through awareness, counselling and support. Ignorance is never a bliss but a curse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CuriousHunk Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I apologise if this is old news to many out there but... education is the first step. Tanetalz, there is no need for you to be apologizing. I appreciate all that you have writen although they are 'old news'. These are all very informative to many out there and a really good reminder to get us to do safe even if we are aware. Many of us could get high and wild during our sexual encounters that we simply put all precautionary measures behind the pleasure and lust. Whatever it is, play safe!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swimBlue Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 That HIV+ guy is really a disaster and totally irresponsible! I know what I am gonna say here is not gonna be popular but I am still gonna say it.........Stop blaming anyone for that HIV+ thingy. He has himself to be blamed. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanetalz Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Yah - its really one thing to sit at home and act all noble and sympathetic when there is no chance to catch HIV. But its quite another thing when suddenly you realise that you've caught it from someone. The I suppose, it does not matter at all whether he was young, old, a hunk, a slob. Or even that he was so deeply depressed that he himself did not know what he was doing. The probable response would be that you'd want to hurt him physically.In an ideal world - I suppose, we would expect (reasonably?) that everyone with HIV to either suddenly stop having sex or to be conscious of others' safety over their own.But imagine a kid who had come out and was just discovering his sexuality, who had experimented wholeheartedly (as most of us did to different extents), someone who has not tasted life fully. Then imagine that person had just discovered that he has HIV. What would his response be? I am not justifying his actions - by the way.But like I said from the beginning, its really easy and cheap for me to rationalise his actions in the comfort of my home. Its quite another thing to have to deal with the reality of having been infected. Again, its easier to talk when you have not experienced something. I'd imagine being filled with so much rage that anything could be possible.So... in the end, as we ALL have said, we must protect ourselves first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest osrich Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 In certain country's law, the defendant is guilty until proven innocent. In bed. when we have fun with anyone, strangers, fb or bf, always assume he is +'ve until proven -'ve.Some STD carriers are like draculas, just wish to enlarge their kind. Have you been 'bitten' yet? :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanetalz Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I shared my conversation with a doctor friend of mine. He told me that he does a very brisk sale in HIV detection kits. Not to test while in his clinic but to take home. I wonder whether its legal for him to sell it but he told me that the demand is so high. And if people don't buy the proper one (is there an alternative type - would any doctors know?) they may buy less accurate ones. And worse that they may use it wrongly.He has his logic of course. But I when I asked him if it was likely that by selling these kits, he would encourage people to use the kits rather than practice safe sex. Like the HIV+ guy, he said the same thing - people should know what to do and that its not his responsibility for other people's health after he had done his part. Sigh. How would anyone argue successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 do u start medication as soon as u r + or must wait until ur CD4 is low?who knows real HIV ppl before? do they suffer early symptoms like fever, flu, cold sweat etc as described? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2mths HIV+ Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 do u start medication as soon as u r + or must wait until ur CD4 is low?who knows real HIV ppl before? do they suffer early symptoms like fever, flu, cold sweat etc as described? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrake Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 What is this theory that when you are HIV+, you have nothing more to loose.When you knowingly pass the virus to other people, you are not only killing others but yourself.The guilt you have to bear... putting the distaste of others aside, you are adding distaste to yourself.You are killing your own heart and soul.I would judge anyone who behaves this way, but of course we have to consider the circumstances.The HIV+ guy mentioned here is very young. He has not gained enough life experience to deal with this status, that is why he is behaving this way. If I say I won't behave this way, would you believe. If I say there is a God, would you believe. =)Death is nothing to be feared if your heart is at peace. All of us, including HIV+ people on average, has less then 10 decades to live. With the current medication, they can maintain a healthy body for a minimum 10-15 years. After that, they can be hopeful to have another 20 years or more. (The figures might not be on the dot as I am no AFA volunteer. Please correct me if I am wrong).We are all human beings. We all know our weakness and what risk we take when we are over our heads.Of course, it is dire to promote safe sex, but we must not be too harsh on people who slipped and got HIV.Just think of the times we slipped, especially in our younger days. It could be you and me. Quote It is what it is, it needn't be defined. It is absolute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2mths HIV+ Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Hi, I am a positive. i wrote in this forum during early June'10 and i shared my experience. I was diagnosed positive but i am glad that i stay positive.When i come across this thread, i can totally understand how this boy feel. He is just having a rebound by taking revenge on others (maybe he feel that why is it him to get infected), he could be thinking of wanting to give up in life so rather die while enjoying than suffer to die.Maybe medical fee is something non-affordable for his young age, 20yo right? Maybe he doesn't have anyone beside him to support him.I just wish him all the best. I strongly believe to be responsible to myself is to be responsible for others. The urge for sex just disappeared. I don't visit Sauna, i don't engage in orgies, 3some/4some or ONS but i am glad because i get to know my condition without the thought of blaming anyone. Reason is I simply can't think of who to blame but i can only blame myself for being not extra careful this life. So with that, i didn't dwell on it and i walk out of the depression within 3days. I tell myself, i must be strong because my parent will have to depend on me when they age. Even though my close friends who knows about my condition didn't run away from me and we share food together, but i am the one who is more particularabout it and i would request for additional spoon and fork to take my share of food when dining with them. Why? Because i love them and i wish them good health. But my advise is, do not share with just anyone. You might not be as lucky as i am to get accepted by your close friends.Well, as far as i could recall, i had flu very often and a constant sore throat that lead to high fever. Ulcer seem to be an everyday thing. My CD4 count is around 400 when diagnosed. According to UN standard so long as CD4 count is slightly below to 500 should start medication to avoid other implication. As HIV doesn't kill us, it only lowered our immune system, but rather its the viruses and diseases around us that kill us. I started the medication for almost a month, everything was fine. My health is back to normal. No more Ulcers, No more Sore throat and i lead healthier lifestyle. Good luck and good health everyone! HIV+ isn't a dreadful diseases now and i am certain that i can live my life longer and much more meaningful than i ever will think of, when in the past before i am positive. It's my wake up call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 hi there,i wish u all the best! this virus is deadly. its engineering to kill our immune system though not fault of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 other that cd4 count, does your overall white blood cell count drop too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CuriousHunk Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I strongly believe to be responsible to myself is to be responsible for others. I started the medication for almost a month, everything was fine. My health is back to normal. No more Ulcers, No more Sore throat and i lead healthier lifestyle. Good luck and good health everyone! HIV+ isn't a dreadful diseases now and i am certain that i can live my life longer and much more meaningful than i ever will think of, when in the past before i am positive. It's my wake up call.Very encouraging indeed! You are a strong-will person! Take good care of yourself from now and I wish you the very best in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surelyugessian Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 there is a killer on the loose!!!!has anybody even consider the possibilities to make a police report???Sorry, even if this brings a bad name to our kind, we owe it to the greater good to prevent further fatalities to more innocent people (the families of the infected)surely the police can track down the person via IP address.I will willingly out myself in the process just so as to be able to identify this person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chan T. Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 A question related to HIV & STDs, dunno where to post, hence post here.If lets say one suspect his last encounter to be risky to HIV or STDs,just how long should he wait before doing the blood test to get a trueconfirmation whether he is infected with HIV or STDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 anything more than 3 mths sld be ready for testing.before u go for testing, u have to ask urself if you are ready to face the consequences if u r +otherwise look out for signs like fever, sore throat, rash, muscle ache within these few mths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Abigail Pornchak Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Sawadee ,dear fellow humans, in our discusiion about HIV infection and prevention , some of us have forgeotten to mentioned that there is a new therapy available at local medical clinics administred by doctors for people who have had a reckless encounter and may think they have been exposed to a HIV positive person and it is called PEP.Please check the internet for the list of clinic who provide this service .It is for people who might have strong suspicion they might have been exposed to the virus and must be administered within 72 hours of exposure to HIV virus , this is not a cure but a therapy to reduce the chances of sero conversion.Of course it will cause at least a thousand dollars but it will help those who are reckless and had bareback sex and within 72 hours must get the therapy started.There will be a counselling done proior to the seeing the doctor , to assess the risk and suitability of candidate.PEP therapy is very new in our gay circle but please get the word out to all our friends that there is a 72 hour window of opportunity for some sort of reversal of fate so to speak.It is still at an early stage but research show some promise for those starting early before 72 hours pass after exposure.Of course , this therapy is not a licence for being reckless with your life and have risky sex, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 what i know about PEP is that if a rape victim was found to have been raped by HIV+, the victim will go thru PEP.It is silly if PEP is used to promote to public as a kind of therapy used to reduce chances of HIV. if it is affordable, then they can jolly well promote PEP as an alternative however it is not.how you expect a person to have PEP after each sex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ophelia Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 what i know about PEP is that if a rape victim was found to have been raped by HIV+, the victim will go thru PEP.It is silly if PEP is used to promote to public as a kind of therapy used to reduce chances of HIV. if it is affordable, then they can jolly well promote PEP as an alternative however it is not.how you expect a person to have PEP after each sex?Please read the post by Abigail in detail, PEP is not promoted for each sexual encounter, It is for people who have been having safe sex and just one reckless encounter where a person may be accidentally exposed to HIV through careleessness or due to consumption of alcohol or whatever .PEP is not mentioned , thought that for some people the 72 hours post exposure window of opportunity may provide a second lease of of life which is HIV free.It is possible second chance for people to consider, because so far if you call any counselling hotlines and if you visit any doctor they will ask your to wait three months for confirmation of infection than they will move on from therePEP therapy needs to be discussed with a qualified medical personnel .It is a possible life saver and was not intended to be a morning after solution for people bent of repititive high risk sexual encounter out of force of habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenny Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Hi "-2mths HIV+-", hope you get well soon. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2mths HIV+ Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Thank you Kenny... It's encouraging to me. I think some people might be curious of what HIV+ people are thinking of, what kind of struggle they might face.So i decided to share about my experience. Time flies, Coming to my 3rd mths now.*** Side track - I just had my medication, so now the feeling is "floating", while trying to concentrate typing this. haha! LOL!*** Now recall and looking back... everything seems like a dream.That day i was on my way to hospital to get my blood test result, nothing about HIV+ came into my mind. I waited patiently outside the clinic room while chit chatting over the phone. Finally it's my turn. I hang up abruptly and i walked in with a smile on my face walking in. Before i even get seated the doctor said to me in a serious tone "I have a bad new!!, You are HIV positive...". I was amazingly calm, i was too shock respond. I feltvery lost, suddenly everything seem to stop around me. I was thinking why is this happening? Am i having a dream? Next thing in my mind is, how long can i live? Will i even get to live on and lead a normal life? Is there a cure? Pretty dumb yah? I knew HIV is a disease that can't be cured at this moment in time but i still asked all these questions. After the doctor tell me firmly "you won't die as medication is very advance nowadays". I relaxed (Smile a little) and i asked "Is the medicine affordable? Is the medicine going to help? Any side effect?"... As you can see, although from the outside i look very calm but actually deep inside me i am full of FEAR.After that, I was sent for a series of blood test (3 tube of blood drew) and an hour of counselling session.The counsellor patiently explained to me what is HIV, how it formed... etc etc... then i asked her what is medication charges?She tells me that it's about avg $1k to few thousands if bought locally but she would recommend me to buy the generic $300+ depend on condition from Thailand. She say usually tell her patient to go there as it would help us to stretch our dollars and i should start saving money from now on.At night when i am alone, i thought i was strong minded... but the fear and uncertainty just tear me apart. Alot of possibilities and thought just appeared. My tears just couldn't control itself and start rolling down. My parent came into my mind, i was thinking i am only early 30yo and if i die earlier than them... who is going to take care of them when they age? I regretted but it's too late. ***side track - I am feeling very high now, like i am drunk***I told some of my closed friends about my condition whom knows i took HIV test and i am blessed that they supported me (NOTE: I wouldn't recommend anyone doing that as if they can't accept you... you will feel setback and drown further) My friends encourage me to live on strong for myself and my parent. Easily said than done, i was emotional and depressed for 3 days and they accompanied me throughout. I am glad that walk out of it and onthe 4th day, i tell myself i am going to be different. I will not be defeated and i will survive. It's really a wake up call for me. These few days were really tough and i really think hard about my future. What I want to do and i plan my life path carefully.Next It's time to go Bangkok to get my medication and i bought a 2 months supply ($200/mth) and going to start upon the instruction of my doctor. My CD4 count is 400 and it's below 500. The doctor was telling me to start now so as to avoid other implications. BUT... once started and there is NO RETURN anymore. It's a lifetime commitment.DAMN IT!! It's again another internal battling... I struggle and hesitated for a 4 days even though i promise my doctor i am suppose to start medication immediately. I was thinking to start or not to start... I took out the medicine and i just couldn't put it into my mouth. Until i feel that i am going to have another fever soon then i close my eye and i swallow it. The effect is quite immediately, and i feel that something is battling within me (can't explain nor describe here) and i woke u headache, lost of appetite and jelly leg and i was on 2 days MC. haha... Now I just finished one month supply of medicine and i am feeling good, healthier. I resume my gym and my appetite is good. Pros: No more fever, No more Ulcer and the feeling is really amazing. Cons: No more night life and i will try to sleep early as i will experience floating effect but tonight is an exceptional case. hehe...That's about all... I am really going to bed. The floating effect is too strong for me now... GOOD NIGHT Everyone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eragon Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 U are a brave chap.Your parents will be so proud of you for taking such good care of yourself.Wish you good health :thumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hi 3mths HIV+, tks for sharing with us....take good care of yrself..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kenny Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hi 3mths HIV+, thanks for sharing with us. Is there anything we can help you? Not sure if we can help you to get the medicine from BKK if we travel there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Y r the prices of the medicine so drastically different in sg and Bk? Thousands (at subsidised rate) compared to $200 (i supposed non-subsidised rate for foreigners in bk)? Indeed astonishing. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 yeah...lame sg gov for not subsidising the medicine or make it cheaper in some ways.this means that HIV is a condition for the riches only...how can the poors afford to pay thousands for medicines that need to be consumed for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hi 3 months HIV+, take good care of yourself. Admire your strengh and determination! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Visitor Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 If its of encouragement to any of you, please let me relate my case.I have been on medication for the past five years. It all started from a casual bloodtest for some other ailments. But as the doctors noticed there were lumps on my neck, actually lymnoids, the size of five cents coin, they advised me to have my blood tested for HIV. The lymnoids is one indication that the body has anti-bodies within.Before that, other indicatives are: the body breaking out in cold sweat in the middle of the night. This happened over a period of three times over two years. There were two or three occassions when my body broke out in rashes. The first two times there were sparodic patches on the body, the third time it covered all over the body.The above three are indicatives that the virus has invaded and the body is fighting back. During those times, I usually feel feverish like on the verge of catching a flu. My eye-lids are always hot, like burning sensation. I also lost alot of weight for no apparent reasons. The palms of my hands are always very warm, as well as the body.I was one of the few or early patients tested positive at TTSH. At that time, the doctors were still not well versed in handling and breaking such dreadful news and were very direct and crude in doing so. I was told that I have to be referred to the CDC as Government policy and treatment will be followed from there.When I was told the news, I was worried about the Government's regulations, such as informing my immediate family member (wife) and the work place.I was lost in thoughts and fear for the whole week. I started to try recall where I might have contacted this deadly virus and I also started to pray. Yes, I prayed very hard. Then after a week, I decided that I am like a pedestian crossing the zebra-crossing and being knocked down by a hit-and-run motor-cyclist. So I asked myself: do I want to lie on the road and cry my heart out or, pick myself up and nurse myself, since I have already been hit in an "accident".From that day on, I took positive steps. I faithfully kept all my appointments with the CDC and took my medications promptly, to the hour, never missing a single dose for the past five years. On the day that I was diagnoised, my CD4 count was a mere 127 count. This is very low and the doctor liken me to someone walking without an armour on, meaning I was vulnerable to all diseases. If I had not been aware of my condition, I would have died within six to eight months. Luckily, my body accepted the medications, except that I have "pimples" breaking out on my body and it is quite itchy. Till today, I still have such pimples. This is one of the side effects. The first month of medication was the most expansive. It was over 1K. After the doctor verified that the doses were correct for my consumption, the social worker reccommended me to buy generic medicines (from Thailand). The cost is $90 per bottle of 60 tablets. I take two tablets a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. This is an antiviral treatment. I believe there are two other medications for those whose bodies don't agree with the medcines. The one that I am taking is Z-250 Antiviral. I have been travelling to Bangkok yearly to buy them. The doctor will give me prescription, and officially I have no problem coming through the Customs.The result of my medication and praying hard is that after the second year, my viral load test shows that the virus is "UNDETECTABLE". The doctor says that this means that I will not die from HIV but it does not mean that I have been cured either.I believe I am blessed with such result because I vowed then that I will never take a new partner for sex, no more cruising or paying for money boys like I did in the past. It helped that my lover stayed and supported me throughout the ordeal. He is free from the virus.The CDC has acknowledged that HIV is now managable when tested positive in the early stage. It has become a cronic diesease like high blood and high colestorol where the patients have to take medications daily, until he dies. But I must add that besides adhering to medications, one must also be civic enough not to infect others and stop cruising for sex partners. There is karmaric actions and if we are sincerely repentant, we will surely be given a second chance.My advise to all those out there partying: go test and keep the virus at bay. Early detection means a new lease of life!And be responsible as you would to your loved ones.If any of you want to ask questions on symtoms relating to the results of the bloodtest, please go ahead and post them here. I will answer in due time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chan T Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 The result of my medication and praying hard is that after the second year, my viral load test shows that the virus is "UNDETECTABLE". The doctor says that this means that I will not die from HIV but it does not mean that I have been cured either."Undetectable" ... does it means that the normal bloodtest package that includesthe HIV test is not 100% reliable...as in it might gives false negative test results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2mths HIV+ Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Hi Kenny, I must tell you that you are real sweet and caring and I really appreciate that, though we don't know each other. Hi Visitors, I am glad that you are living fine for the past 5 years. There is something common between us is that we believe in karmic. I vow to be responsible being from now on, so long as ican live without any obstacle/side effect when taking the medicine so i really pray very hard everyday.Currently i am taking 2 kind of medicine (2 pills), once a day and everyday at 11pm.My doctor in BKK hospital, told me that this is the latest patent that they got last year. I heard last time was morning and evening, 3 pills each.So far i don't experience anything like you mention above, so i guess i am considered lucky or the new medicine has lesser side effect.Like i say, i only experience high feeling as if i am "floating" and nothing else. My doctor in BKK say so far none of her patient complain aboutany side effect when taking this new medicine. She even joke that since i adapt well with the new medicine then congratulation i can live till very old.Oh yah, let me share something i have learnt about this medicine. If i didn't remember wrongly... the medicine is meant to destroy the Virus by protecting the protein layer of our blood cell. These viral reply on our blood cell and feed on them (can't recall is red or white blood cell). Once these virus failed to get their food source (Protein layer), they can't replicate themselves and die off within our body. That's the so call "un-detectable" but these virus are still in our body and it's still capable of spreading to others. **Side Track** - CD4 count is the count for our immune system level - Normal person can have at least 600 to over 1000 CD4 count. Next usually we test for Viral Load, its the test of the amount of HIV Viral in a drop of blood and "un-detectable" is meaning HIV viral level is as good as zero here. They can't replicate themselves. In conclusion, HIV test is still trace-able but HIV Viral could be as low as zero, so HIV patient can have a second chance to live on.BUT!!... If we don't take the medicine on time, we are just giving these Viral a second chance to mutate themselves to a higher level and more intelligent Viral hence our current medicine is immune to these Virus and we will then need to change another new medicine which will be more costly of course. Therefore, it's always good to test HIV an detect earlier to prevent ourselve from having to need to buy more expensive medicine.Like what Visitor mentioned earlier on, HIV is consider more like a chronic diseases nowadays just like high blood pressure or diabetes, but most importantly is to love youself more and be responsible by protecting others. Time to go for my bed time!! Good night everyone... I am floating AGAIN... LoL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Hi to those HIV+,If i may ask, do u guys actually know who are the ones who transmitted the virus to u? Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Very touching details from HIV+ guys, a lesson for the rest to learn is to be safe then sorry. However, there are still some black sheeps around practising unsafe sex even if they knew they r HIV +. For those having the virus, be strong and live on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lumps on neck Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 If its of encouragement to any of you, please let me relate my case.I have been on medication for the past five years. It all started from a casual bloodtest for some other ailments. But as the doctors noticed there were lumps on my neck, actually lymnoids, the size of five cents coin, they advised me to have my blood tested for HIV. The lymnoids is one indication that the body has anti-bodies within.Hi, thanks for the courage of yr enlightening post to help others. I am happy that things are working out for you.May i know specifically where are the "five cents coin" sized lymnoids? is is a few or just one or two? Are they all over the neck or at specific location. I have both sides of my neck, just below the ear lobes and above the edge of my lower jaw bones, which i thot is kind of big. I saw the doctor and he says it is ok but i just have this nagging feeling or perhaps i am hypochondriac. And i have not found the courage to go for a blood test yet.May i know also during the times leading up to yr blood test, did u to yr knowledge, had any occassions where on reflection it was unsafe sex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 i read that saliva can reduce chances of HIV attack as it has a less salty property provides ur proportion of saliva sld not be overrun by semen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 did both of u suspect contracting HIV via anal or oral? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest visitor Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 As promised on my post dated 5th August as "Visitor", my replies to those who had questions:1 ) Lump on neck: The lymnoids are actually swollen glands. It may be any where within the neck. I had two lumps in the middle of the neck, below the ear lobes. If you press hard on them, you won't feel any pain or discomfort. And it never grew bigger. However after I started my medication, it all disappeared. My advise to you is to go as soon as possible for testing. But please brace yourself on a concrete plan to follow after (whatever) the results may be. God willing, you may be negative but then take this as one chance for you to turn over a new lifestyle. There are more carriers out there than you could ever imagine with the likes of yourself, not daring to go for that test and meanwhile still finding partners for sexual trysts.2) fab: I did try hard to recall who may have transmitted the virus to me but I can't really make any confirmation on whom. The experience is like having the flu, you know you got it from someone but can't pinpoint who.But it does not matter who you got it from. That's passe'. It would be more realistic to look ahead to the future as to how you intend to make the best of the situation less dangerous for yourself. Like I mentioned, an accident has happened. I've been crippled, so do I want to get up and walk or just cry my heart out, and wait for death.3 ) Guest: did both of u suspect contracting HIV via anal or oral? I don't do anal. So that plugs one possibility. However I was into heavy oral BJs and one more weird action: finger penetration. I have strong feeling that I have infected myself through the latter form of action. But there is no way I can pin point any stage of infection.4) Guest: Viral Load Blood test is different from HIV testing. It is more intensified in that it measures the presence of the virus in a drop of blood. This is done only after medication has started to gauge the results. What the medicine does is to stave off the virus in the body and when it has no opportunity to multiply or mutate, it dies eventually of old age leaving it "undetectable". At this stage, the patient is as good as gotten rid of the virus from the body but the medical board will not label any stamp of being "cured". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taki Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 As promised on my post dated 5th August as "Visitor", my replies to those who had questions:1 ) Lump on neck: The lymnoids are actually swollen glands. It may be any where within the neck. I had two lumps in the middle of the neck, below the ear lobes. If you press hard on them, you won't feel any pain or discomfort. And it never grew bigger. However after I started my medication, it all disappeared. My advise to you is to go as soon as possible for testing. But please brace yourself on a concrete plan to follow after (whatever) the results may be. God willing, you may be negative but then take this as one chance for you to turn over a new lifestyle. There are more carriers out there than you could ever imagine with the likes of yourself, not daring to go for that test and meanwhile still finding partners for sexual trysts.2) fab: I did try hard to recall who may have transmitted the virus to me but I can't really make any confirmation on whom. The experience is like having the flu, you know you got it from someone but can't pinpoint who.But it does not matter who you got it from. That's passe'. It would be more realistic to look ahead to the future as to how you intend to make the best of the situation less dangerous for yourself. Like I mentioned, an accident has happened. I've been crippled, so do I want to get up and walk or just cry my heart out, and wait for death.3 ) Guest: did both of u suspect contracting HIV via anal or oral? I don't do anal. So that plugs one possibility. However I was into heavy oral BJs and one more weird action: finger penetration. I have strong feeling that I have infected myself through the latter form of action. But there is no way I can pin point any stage of infection.4) Guest: Viral Load Blood test is different from HIV testing. It is more intensified in that it measures the presence of the virus in a drop of blood. This is done only after medication has started to gauge the results. What the medicine does is to stave off the virus in the body and when it has no opportunity to multiply or mutate, it dies eventually of old age leaving it "undetectable". At this stage, the patient is as good as gotten rid of the virus from the body but the medical board will not label any stamp of being "cured".Thank you very much for the info. I am surprised that you dont do anal because i always thought high chance of getting infected is through anal. To be honest, i also into heavy oral BJs but of course i always make sure i do not have uclers in my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 they said mouth is not a condusive environment for the HIV. the saliva is less salty therefore HIV will not survive.however if the saline percentage in the mouth is overtaken by human milk, blood or semen, then chances of saliva protecting u will be lower.therefore try not to have cum in ur mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest syphilis Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 they said mouth is not a condusive environment for the HIV. the saliva is less salty therefore HIV will not survive.however if the saline percentage in the mouth is overtaken by human milk, blood or semen, then chances of saliva protecting u will be lower.therefore try not to have cum in ur mouth.Few Months ago i realised i have infected with syphilis and i was so worried. I was given injection and now recovers. Can anyone share on this disease, it seems like quite popular nowadays? Frankly speaking, i have always done safe anal sex but enjoy heavy BJs. Probably this is the cause of having the disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 i tot syhillis is not very common compare to gnonorrrea?anyway, can u share with us what r the symptoms u have suffered when u have contracted syphillis?i heard rashes will appear on ur palms and soles? how true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest syphilis Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 i tot syhillis is not very common compare to gnonorrrea?anyway, can u share with us what r the symptoms u have suffered when u have contracted syphillis?i heard rashes will appear on ur palms and soles? how true?For me, rashes appeared on my palms and soles only. No pain at all. If you want to find out more, can read up from STD website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boy9 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 this is really shocking and scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JONJON Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Hi, I got a question about the kissing and the HIV infection.... What if, it wasnt a french kiss but just a 1 second, or less mouth to mouth contact with a possible positive person? And what if the healthy one has a pretty little dry lips sore on his lips??Thank you all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ah_Seow Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Hi, I got a question about the kissing and the HIV infection.... What if, it wasnt a french kiss but just a 1 second, or less mouth to mouth contact with a possible positive person? And what if the healthy one has a pretty little dry lips sore on his lips??Thank you all !So many ASS brained people here. This is a classic example. Are you a 3 year old boy or gal ? What a moronic question :twisted: If so scared, then dun go near a HIV+ lah ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NiceGuy Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 You are right!! People already gave so much references here and still asked stupid thing. Anyway, thank you very much to those who have shared all the info here. Hope everyone practises safe sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GachiMuchi Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 So many ASS brained people here. This is a classic example. Are you a 3 year old boy or gal ? What a moronic question :twisted: If so scared, then dun go near a HIV+ lah ?!Be nice, People. Even if JonJon is a moron cum idiot who can't understand what was posted on earlier post. Don't have to say that he is a 3 year old boy/gal. Ah Seow, what is wrong with going near a person with HIV. They are fellow humans too. So be nice. Quote http://gachimuchi2008.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JONJON Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Im sorry if my question made you mad. Its just im so nervous, I dont exactly know if the one I kissed has HIV+ . she´s a sex worker and we had a fast kiss. Im sorry if this makes me look as an idiot, but im looking for kind, and surely answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veith Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) Can just call Action for AIDS.Mon-Fri 9am - 6pmTel: 6254 0212 Edited September 6, 2010 by veith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watevermightbe Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Just to share something that I have encountered before. There was once that I had a fun with this guy, we had a long session of kissing, fondling etc.A few days after that, I was down with high fever, severe sore throat.Usually when I have sore throat, I will just pop by pharmacy to get some sore throat syrup. But this time, I had some "blister" like on the "walls “of my throat. It is unlike normal sore throat. So I went to see a doctor and the doctor just gave me some medicine for my fever and sore throat. But after taking for 2 days, my sore throat and fever never subside.I went to see another doctor on the 3rd day, and apparently the doctor told me that I had a virus infection. It is different from throat infection. He told me that it is usually transmitting thru kissing or exchange of saliva and cannot be cured with antibiotics.I cannot remember what medicine he gave me. All I remembered was that I was having nonstop fever for a WEEK. The fever was that terrible that I will wake up every night at about 4 am and feel nauseous and headache with the fever. Eventually, I start to recover after a week of torture.Well the moral of my story is to gaggle your mouth after sex. I will reduce the chance of getting such illness. Another experience that I would like to share is during one of my visits to the doctor for a hiv test.The doctor told me that it does not mean that when your partner is HIV + and you are HIV -, you will get HIV after you have unprotected sex. I cannot remember the figure but he told me is like 1 in a few thousand get it thru anal sex. It usually depends on you immune system and mostly on luck! Well, it is better that you don’t risk cos who knows when you will get “lucky”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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