Guest Reality Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 11 hours ago, jackie said: Here an update: https://vulcanpost.com/663566/salary-guide-singapore-2019/?fbclid=IwAR1_ErXUGp3VkwrpcFMa3UZG05j2J-4mULwfmk7sG1gYkGXG_IV_XZ7nrNk For you review to see whether to change job, ask for increment or hang on to your ricebowl and work hard this weekend Yes in theory but not in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finance Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 Depends on your financial requirements. If you lead a simple life, take public transport and live with parents, you won't need to earn as much. But if you intend to buy a house and car in the future, it's been calculated before, I think minimum gross $7-8k per month to go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsrelaxpp Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 Thats why u see super long queue for toto when the top prize snowball....is pretty sad for a country when the only hope of its people is to strike lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reality Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, robin said: My mom’s annual hospitalization insurance is already nearly $10K & mine is around $6K. Plus other expenses listed above by the other members (allowance to mom, housing loan, other insurance, own expenses etc), I cannot imagine how much one has to earn will be considered as enough & when can one ever not be at the mercy of his employer. Only way out is either strike lottery, doing own business or investment. Savings from employment is definitely not the answer! Change of garment will eliminate all your fears of feeling insecure about growing old and poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovehandle Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 hours ago, robin said: My mom’s annual hospitalization insurance is already nearly $10K & mine is around $6K. Plus other expenses listed above by the other members (allowance to mom, housing loan, other insurance, own expenses etc), I cannot imagine how much one has to earn will be considered as enough & when can one ever not be at the mercy of his employer. Only way out is either strike lottery, doing own business or investment. Savings from employment is definitely not the answer! i trust the higher the age group, the higher the hosp/medical insurance premiums Plus esp if u get a full rider i felt too young dont have to get medical but when closer to 40yo, have to start but it is good to do savings by investment (or any forms that comes w returns) for long term planning While my parents have elderly's ailments generally. they dont really get hospitalised for big cases Premiums for such insurance are expense off (that generate no returns) and most of the times we dont aim to stay in such "hotels" luxuriously (ie we hardly aim for A or B+ ward , the future follow up at specialist clinic is Gonna come costly and the medication too) if u have a medical case w strong need of Long -term follow up , bettter dont take the luxurious class if u have a one off case eg pneumonia (wont need follow up at all) that need to be warded, then u can take a higher-class ward n there is NOTHING to enjoy in such hotels(your determination is to get discharge asap) - so there is nothing "feel-good" to opt to stay in better wards (services by Doc and nurses are the same thru out) nothing fanciful in the menu (even though u can choose the food from a menu, hosp food are still hosp food) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, -Ignored- said: i trust the higher the age group, the higher the hosp/medical insurance premiums Plus esp if u get a full rider While my parents have elderly's ailments generally. they dont really get hospitalised for big cases Premiums for such insurance are expense off (that generate no returns) and most of the times we dont aim to stay in such "hotels" luxuriously (ie we hardly aim for A or B+ ward , the future follow up at specialist clinic is Gonna come costly and the medication too) Many of us had the idea that buying a better class/ward insurance is for comfort purposes. It is a misconception. If one observe carefully, old folks, when they are admitted to hospital (especially for a certain period of time), many did not live to leave the place. Reason is becoz they are exposed & became infected by the bacteria carried by other patients. Talk to doctors & most of them will agree with this. My dad is an example of such a case. Another reason for having a good insurance is the level of medical care. In a 6-12 beds ward, only one doctor (I don’t mean those medical students who are sent for attachment) is in-charge of the entire ward & he will spend only few mins a day to see all the patients in the ward. There was once I was admitted into one of these wards. Every 2 hours throughout the night, I have a different medical student coming to me to request for me to explain my condition to him so he can write his report! One of them even draw my blood for the wrong reason! It is true that mount e Novena hospital serves abalones & lobsters to their patients on a daily basis. But that is not the reason why I get a good insurance for my parents & myself Sorry for sharing about insurance here (I am not an agent). Enough said from me, back to main topic about earning enough. Thanks Edited May 12, 2019 by robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Guest Reality said: Change of garment will eliminate all your fears of feeling insecure about growing old and poor. Please do not use what I have shared to achieve your personal agenda Edited May 12, 2019 by robin lovehandle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Guest Reality said: Change of garment will eliminate all your fears of feeling insecure about growing old and poor. I think a change of govt does not ALWAYS will mean things will be better and never worst. You have no crystal ball that can give you proof but just word of mouth from people who just like to think change will bring about good. But history also have shown that many in politics in the past, have promise that and when they over-take... did not change it but made it worst. That include Obama who made political changes but when in office did not do all he said he would. Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackling Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) If we do intend to overthrow the current system, Singaporeans must have the balls to stand up against the system and revolt thru the votes. its to show the system that its the people that runs the govt not the other way round. Edited May 12, 2019 by Zackling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fatty Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 hours ago, upshot said: I think a change of govt does not ALWAYS will mean things will be better and never worst. You have no crystal ball that can give you proof but just word of mouth from people who just like to think change will bring about good. But history also have shown that many in politics in the past, have promise that and when they over-take... did not change it but made it worst. That include Obama who made political changes but when in office did not do all he said he would. Yes, opposition have no track records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedersmiracle Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Wait I thought current topic is how much to live comfortably in Singapore. First job, 1+ years, below 3k. Still think is not enough even if I only spend 400 on expenses every month... Edited May 12, 2019 by feedersmiracle Quote Speaking loudly, suffers softly. Smiles so wide, cuts unseen inside.Bitin' the bullet, but never kick the bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovehandle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 U r true abt this!!!!!!!! i been telling many that fastfd and kopitiams r never cheap in sg i m shocked by many who can afford a can drink!!! 1 hour ago, feedersmiracle said: Wait I thought current topic is how much to live comfortably in Singapore. First job, 1+ years, below 3k. Still think is not enough even if I only spend 400 on expenses every month... Otah r not seen as vege and separately charged: https://www.facebook.com/313372322082093/posts/2195941890491784?s=1218207684&sfns=mo all r crying online feedersmiracle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsrelaxpp Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Zackling said: If we do intend to overthrow the current system, Singaporeans must have the balls to stand up against the system and revolt thru the votes. its to show the system that its the people that runs the govt not the other way round. Almost impossible, firstly local got no ball....secondly we are obsessed with brands, the longer it had been around the better, lastly and sadly there arent any better options available...the best option is still to earn sgd and spent rm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedersmiracle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, -Ignored- said: U r true abt this!!!!!!!! i been telling many that fastfd and kopitiams r never cheap in sg i m shocked by many who can afford a can drink!!! Otah r not seen as vege and separately charged: https://www.facebook.com/313372322082093/posts/2195941890491784?s=1218207684&sfns=mo all r crying online Each vege 2 dollar. Lol. Quote Speaking loudly, suffers softly. Smiles so wide, cuts unseen inside.Bitin' the bullet, but never kick the bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovehandle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 yes, in fact, plain green/vege/leafy vege are considered as vege When vege decorated w abit of bak chor (ie minced meat ) or other extra stuff To me fishcake is not a meat but many stalls will consider special items as a higher pricing Which is why it is highly costly to survive in sg (either biz will cut down on labour/costs) we were all talking many shops in jewel cannot survive for too long (Changi woo them over w gimmicks but...) ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blogger Adam Posted May 14, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 1/30/2014 at 7:49 AM, Guest QQ said: Hi guys What is the average salary that one should earn to be able to live comfortably in Singapore? Bear in mind that we are gays and don't have wives to share financial burdens? Do most of us earn around $5 to $6K per month here ? When I was in NS, someone from the financial sector was invited to our unit for a talk. I took home one of the most valuable pieces of advice... that if you can live with, say $900 when you're in University, you can live with $900 as a young working adult. I did just that, and made sure that I spent within my means. At age 25, when I started out after graduating, my takehome pay was a miserable S$1,400. I applied that principle to my life. At age 40, I am still spending an average of S$900 a month. Yet, I'm still able to buy food and drinks for my friends and family. My partner - himself a very financially savvy person - has imparted one more mantra to me: It's not how much you earn. It's how much you save. Steve5380, mate69, riverrobles and 2 others 4 1 Quote http://adamandtheboys2.blogspot.sg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsrelaxpp Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 900 a month is really not easy and is either u have fully paid your house or staying with parent, otherwise rental would already cost 600, add in transport and food easily over 1k liao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 To live comfortably after retirement, you cannot depend on cpf alone. You need to have a supplement income like rental or dividends etc. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 For me to live comfortably after retirement is around $400. Which I am planning to retired at age 39 or 40 I started saving since I am in primary school. And my frugal lifestyle do help me a lot. Here a breakdown on what I spend monthly. Transport cap at $50 Fiber at 29 SCC at 35 PUB at 70 Food at 100 to 110 The rest off the 80 to 100 is for buffer, inflation and rollover for future. The thing that help me save and be self sufficient and self sustainability due to off grid living, Eco friendly etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ahseng_ said: For me to live comfortably after retirement is around $400. Which I am planning to retired at age 39 or 40 I started saving since I am in primary school. And my frugal lifestyle do help me a lot. Here a breakdown on what I spend monthly. Transport cap at $50 Fiber at 29 SCC at 35 PUB at 70 Food at 100 to 110 The rest off the 80 to 100 is for buffer, inflation and rollover for future. The thing that help me save and be self sufficient and self sustainability due to off grid living, Eco friendly etc.... Your breakdown is based on today rate. After 10 years, your $450 Is not enough. Ahseng_ 1 Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, LeanMature said: Your breakdown is based on today rate. After 10 years, your $450 Is not enough. This one no issue, I can always work few hr for weekend. No money I can work to earn, no time I cannot buy back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyl Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Ahseng_ said: This one no issue, I can always work few hr for weekend. No money I can work to earn, no time I cannot buy back Bro,.. sorry for asking... what is your finance literary level? If high. like financial planner ,etc.. can share your thinking for this level - medical plan. etc, holidaying, life enjoyment etc. If not high, I think it;s definitely wishful thinking. This definitely cannot be termed as "living". Edited May 15, 2019 by Garyl Ahseng_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Garyl said: Bro,.. sorry for asking... what is your finance literary level? If high. like financial planner ,etc.. can share your thinking for this level - medical plan. etc, holidaying, life enjoyment etc. If not high, I think it;s definitely wishful thinking. This definitely cannot be termed as "living". Different ppl define living differently To some ppl eating at restaurants, travel, is living To some, live a simple life is living Edited May 15, 2019 by Ahseng_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyl Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Ahseng_ said: Different ppl define living differently To some ppl eating at restaurants, travel, is living To some, live a simple life is living Bro, i know. But $400 a month.. i think need to tgt higher level , if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Ahseng_ said: Different ppl define living differently To some ppl eating at restaurants, travel, is living To some, live a simple life is living If $400 can make a simple living, there won't be so many elderly people working beyond 65. jackie, Since u r here and Ahseng_ 1 2 Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Garyl said: Bro, i know. But $400 a month.. i think need to tgt higher level , if possible. Yes it possible, I just need to trade my time for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, LeanMature said: If $400 can make a simple living, there won't be so many elderly people working beyond 65. I guess biogas, compost, Growing veggies, DIY, solar must be new to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyl Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ahseng_ said: I guess biogas, compost, Growing veggies, DIY, solar must be new to you bro..you done before. ? i dont think pple can live with $450 even in bkk.. where you going to stay? what if you fall sick? what if you want to buy condom in Singapore for fxx. what if you need buy lubricant in singapore for fxx. what if you want to get a bigger dildo? what if.. you want to watch avengers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Ahseng_ said: I guess biogas, compost, Growing veggies, DIY, solar must be new to you New or not new, the fact is, many elderly people are still working beyond 65 to sustain a living. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Top in everything. Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 hours ago, LeanMature said: If $400 can make a simple living, there won't be so many elderly people working beyond 65. It is possible if one is healthy. Those elderly people who worked beyond 65 and even collecting cardboards are trying to pay for the hefty medical cost as we all know Singapore has the highest medical cost in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Garyl said: bro..you done before. ? i dont think pple can live with $450 even in bkk.. where you going to stay? what if you fall sick? what if you want to buy condom in Singapore for fxx. what if you need buy lubricant in singapore for fxx. what if you want to get a bigger dildo? what if.. you want to watch avengers ? I am doing it now, for the pass 20yr. My spend is on average less then 400 for the pass 20yr. If I fall small sick I can afford. If it big sickness, like cancer , 1 million also not enough If you outside you see a fat guy wearing torn t shirt. Or someone eat leftover fries at fast food, that me I got a bto which will be ready in 2021 or 2022 which is already fully paid. If I need to fxx, i got my hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 hours ago, LeanMature said: New or not new, the fact is, many elderly people are still working beyond 65 to sustain a living. With the sickness I got, I dont have much heathty time left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Guest Top in everything. said: It is possible if one is healthy. Those elderly people who worked beyond 65 and even collecting cardboards are trying to pay for the hefty medical cost as we all know Singapore has the highest medical cost in the world. That of the main reason why I decided to retired before 41 or 40. To enjoy hiking, spending time on my mini food source, take thing slowly or to start, then go home pull my own noodles to make a simple Dan Dan noodles or to make some Irish cream cheesecake etc...... I guess I got 20 to 30yr of heathty years left before I lose the battle with this sickness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AhLian Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ahseng_ said: With the sickness I got, I dont have much heathty time left Not much time left then why paid for a bto to be ready in 2021/22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ah Beng Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Guest AhLian said: Not much time left then why paid for a bto to be ready in 2021/22? Singapore culture, I guess. Must follow other people footsteps, otherwise being called negative if you don't fit into somone's mould. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate69 Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, Guest Ah Beng said: Singapore culture, I guess. Must follow other people footsteps, otherwise being called negative if you don't fit into somone's mould. such foolish and naive way of thinking. typical sg way of culture and mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 I know quite a few persons who retired at early 40s. One of them inherited 3condo n collecting rental. Another one rents out his condo n flat n stays in jb. Another one rents out his flat n stays with his parents. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyl Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Ahseng_ said: I am doing it now, for the pass 20yr. My spend is on average less then 400 for the pass 20yr. If I fall small sick I can afford. If it big sickness, like cancer , 1 million also not enough If you outside you see a fat guy wearing torn t shirt. Or someone eat leftover fries at fast food, that me I got a bto which will be ready in 2021 or 2022 which is already fully paid. If I need to fxx, i got my hand Thanks bro for reply. I thought topic is live comfortably.. not live miserly or barely living. If comfortable only to you, then your answer of $400 not relevant le.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ah Beng Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, mate69 said: such foolish and naive way of thinking. typical sg way of culture and mentality. See? I told you already. Must fit into other people thinking otherwise being called..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 89 baby Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 I am in the sales industry and stay with my parents. On average, i bring back home ard 2.2k; after cfp. Depends on the commission i get. Lowest so far is 2k. I pay the bills at home, insurance, and budget on my daily spending and transportation, put aside some money on savings. Everything goes up to 1.7k. Usually im left with ard 400-500 spare to spend on anything that i want. No credit card no car no loan or anything. I am fairly comfortable. For now. If i were to buy a house, i will need more than that. Im planning to buy a house on my own when i reach 35; in 5 years time. I can forsee that with this salary, it wont be sufficient for me if i were to own a house. I guess anything above 3k after cpf, is enough to live comfortably with a house. Btw i know this is out of the topic, but anyone have any suggestion on how i can make more money with what i have? Besides investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ben Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 1/30/2014 at 7:49 AM, Guest QQ said: Hi guys What is the average salary that one should earn to be able to live comfortably in Singapore? Bear in mind that we are gays and don't have wives to share financial burdens? Do most of us earn around $5 to $6K per month here ? I’m receiving $18K a month. Living alone in a very nice condo within CBD. I live comfortably but still feeling empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A gift Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Guest Ben said: I’m receiving $18K a month. Living alone in a very nice condo within CBD. I live comfortably but still feeling empty. I earn 2k only but I have a good husband. We both live humbly for the rest of our life. I couldn't ask for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate69 Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 blah blah blah.... no need seek validation and compare with others. just live your own life the way u want it/know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Guest Ben said: I’m receiving $18K a month. Living alone in a very nice condo within CBD. I live comfortably but still feeling empty. No problem...18k can afford to rent boys to fill your emptiness and then live fucking comfortably ha..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ha! Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Guest 89 baby said: I am fairly comfortable. For now. If i were to buy a house, i will need more than that. Im planning to buy a house on my own when i reach 35; in 5 years time. I can forsee that with this salary, it wont be sufficient for me if i were to own a house. I guess anything above 3k after cpf, is enough to live comfortably with a house. Can buy a 2-room BTO (direct from HDB and cheaper), and better start booking as the waiting time might be long. All you need is a roof to stay and enjoy your free time, no need to compare with other people who stay in fucking condo with a lifetime of debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Guest Top in everything. said: Those elderly people who worked beyond 65 and even collecting cardboards are trying to pay for the hefty medical cost as we all know Singapore has the highest medical cost in the world. Are you sure? I thought that we Americans have the sad distinction of having the highest healthcare cost per capita in the world. 15 hours ago, Garyl said: I thought topic is live comfortably.. not live miserly or barely living. If comfortable only to you, then your answer of $400 not relevant le.. It is still relevant how a low income can provide comfortable living. It is giving good example! In my experience frugality is a virtue, and also can be a source of satisfaction and pride. It is NOT misery and does not deprive as long as comfort is there. For many decades my family house has been paid, and its only expense is taxes and some upkeeping. My cars are paid, and I have no credit card nor any other debt. I have been retired for 20 years and I live well with 60% of my income from pension and social security. Inflation will have to increase much, even with Donald Trump, for me having to tap into any retirement funds. Yet I am comfortable and don't miss anything. My clothes are old, I don't eat in restaurants, I have ALL the electronics I want, and my medical insurance is low with Medicare. I don't "see" fashion, expensive decoration, luxury. But I have the best luxury in the world: I own all of my time. If one day I fall in love with a woman and she wants me to buy her a $100,000 diamond, I can do it without taking any debt. But I doubt that this will happen Ahseng_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyl Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Steve5380 said: Are you sure? I thought that we Americans have the sad distinction of having the highest healthcare cost per capita in the world. It is still relevant how a low income can provide comfortable living. It is giving good example! In my experience frugality is a virtue, and also can be a source of satisfaction and pride. It is NOT misery and does not deprive as long as comfort is there. For many decades my family house has been paid, and its only expense is taxes and some upkeeping. My cars are paid, and I have no credit card nor any other debt. I have been retired for 20 years and I live well with 60% of my income from pension and social security. Inflation will have to increase much, even with Donald Trump, for me having to tap into any retirement funds. Yet I am comfortable and don't miss anything. My clothes are old, I don't eat in restaurants, I have ALL the electronics I want, and my medical insurance is low with Medicare. I don't "see" fashion, expensive decoration, luxury. But I have the best luxury in the world: I own all of my time. If one day I fall in love with a woman and she wants me to buy her a $100,000 diamond, I can do it without taking any debt. But I doubt that this will happen Steve, i am talking about a defined amount sg $400. (US 290). I am telling you most normal people cant live off comfortably with that amount even with things paid. It is not a relevant answer to a defined question. "Average Salary To Live Comfortably In Singapore" Out of point, the "$400" reply. Anyway, my last reply for this thread. Edited May 17, 2019 by Garyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Guest AhLian said: Not much time left then why paid for a bto to be ready in 2021/22? I nv pay cash, all using money that I can nv taken out. Also to receive handout if don't stay together And some privacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Garyl said: Thanks bro for reply. I thought topic is live comfortably.. not live miserly or barely living. If comfortable only to you, then your answer of $400 not relevant le.. Ya lor, should not put the 400 but I am comfortable with my living Garyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahseng_ Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) I am able to live comfortably is due to MFM that is hardwired into me. Only Those that are either M, F or M will understand. Just look for the key words. off grid living Minimalist Econ friendly Old fashioned style Retro era Oldies stuff, devices Manual ..... Hand powered ..... Camping For me I am Fusion of MFM. MFM stand for: M= Miser F= Frugal M= Minimalist I am a miser since primary school and I evolve to Frugal during late 20s and finally I evolved into a minimalist in my early 30s I can live comfortably even if I don't owned a TV, washing machine, rice cooker, sofa, dinning table, water heater. But wait. Minimalist is not about owning or not owning TV, washing machine etc....... Minimalism is a tool to rid yourself of life’s excess in favor of focusing on what’s important—so you can find happiness, fulfillment, and freedom. I found my happiness, fulfillment, and freedom to live comfortably. So what about you Edited May 18, 2019 by Ahseng_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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