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5 hours ago, desmadonna said:

 

most likely you went for "O" night on Fri/Sat/Sun/PH/PHeve.  

Yes, i have been there too. The boss is so generous to provide foc liqor to relax the customers. You can see the hungry btms fighting to swallow up available dicks with their black hole.:thumb:

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5 minutes ago, Garyl said:

Its different. I find thai much more relaxed then the taiwan scene. My and bf attended and find our chinese cultural expressions to be less liberal. Taiwan pride parade a world class though.

 

 

After Thailand which country do you think will rise from the gay scene?

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9 hours ago, Shavedboy said:

Taiwan is slowly catching up I hope they will have a nice tourism for gay guys. Its really near in my country Philippines and cheap to travel for us.

 

Taiwan slowly catching up?

The gay scene in Taiwan is already established.

Better quality guys than Thailand too.

It's just that Thailand is cheaper and have a more international crowd (maybe due to English) so more gay guys might head there.

Some foreigners might not head to Taiwan probably due to language barrier (still widespread usage of Mandarin) but it's immensely popular with Asians who speak Mandarin.

Gay clubs in Taiwan are really happening.

Those ang mohs who hook up (Thai) guys easily in Thailand might not have the same chance in Taiwan cos TW guys are probably beyond their reach!

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2 minutes ago, Guest Edd said:

 

Taiwan slowly catching up?

The gay scene in Taiwan is already established.

Better quality guys than Thailand too.

It's just that Thailand is cheaper and have a more international crowd (maybe due to English) so more gay guys might head there.

Some foreigners might not head to Taiwan probably due to language barrier (still widespread usage of Mandarin) but it's immensely popular with Asians who speak Mandarin.

Gay clubs in Taiwan are really happening.

Those ang mohs who hook up (Thai) guys easily in Thailand might not have the same chance in Taiwan cos TW guys are probably beyond their reach!

 

Not really. Quality guys for me is Thailand. Taiwan has a homogenous looks chinky and pale looking no x factor. Another factor is the language barrier which is not cater to foreign tourist. Philippines has an advantage because of language but because of our religion we shut down gay scenes here. 

 

Foreigner like thais because they are more approachable and fun to be with unlike Taiwanese guys seems stiff and aloof like Singaporeans not because beyond of their reach. 

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Thai guys have their divisions too. Normally the better looking ones (mostly Thai Chinese) can be quite aloof.

 

Taiwanese guys are very friendly. Most are good looking and have nice bods (probably due to their compulsory military training).

 

HK guys are the most aloof, worse than Singaporeans! But they are the best looking.

 

 

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Saladeang area is a well known place for massage with HE. Bascially, any shops along the street would have male masseurs offering something extra (90%).

 

Went to this shop few metres away from the highly discussed rapee and a whole load of masseurs in black tee could be seen outside the jap bar/ restaurant. Massage place is above it. Chose a good looking guy and the massage left me happy :p

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2 hours ago, justanotherme said:

Saladeang area is a well known place for massage with HE. Bascially, any shops along the street would have male masseurs offering something extra (90%).

 

Went to this shop few metres away from the highly discussed rapee and a whole load of masseurs in black tee could be seen outside the jap bar/ restaurant. Massage place is above it. Chose a good looking guy and the massage left me happy :p

 

haha i think thats nakarat massage. indeed the boys are hot, and may be even hotter than the other massage shops around. 

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https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/12173-trip-report-christmas-in-bangkok-and-new-year-in-pattaya/

 

My trip report in progress right now in a different forum. Have fun reading! Should be able to read as guest but only member can post reply and pm, something this forum might want to start doing. 

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1 hour ago, Sudu said:

https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/12173-trip-report-christmas-in-bangkok-and-new-year-in-pattaya/

 

My trip report in progress right now in a different forum. Have fun reading! Should be able to read as guest but only member can post reply and pm, something this forum might want to start doing. 

Love ur report!!

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1 hour ago, Sudu said:

https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/12173-trip-report-christmas-in-bangkok-and-new-year-in-pattaya/

 

My trip report in progress right now in a different forum. Have fun reading! Should be able to read as guest but only member can post reply and pm, something this forum might want to start doing. 

 

Which forum is this babe? Sg forum of thailand forum?

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31 minutes ago, Shavedboy said:

 

Which forum is this babe? Sg forum of thailand forum?

 

Its used to be called gaythailand.com, they have recently changed admin, for now using the gayguides.com domain, until further notice. Been a regular there for few years, when i was planning my first trip to bkk few years ago. 

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3 hours ago, lookseelooksee said:

I can't comment on Taiwanese guys as I've never been to Taiwan nor do I have any Taiwanese gay friends. I have a number of Thai and HK gay friends however.

 

The interesting thing about the Thais is some of them are "Thai Thais" (native Thais who are darker and may have curly hair) while others are "Thai Chinese" (ancestors migrated from China to Thailand, usually fairer and sometimes cheena looking) while yet others have both Thai and Chinese blood. So you have a good mix and ang mohs (called farang) usually prefer the darker, more exotic-looking Thai Thais.

 

I don't find HK guys aloof at all. My HK gay friends are all very friendly and respectful. But they are very discreet, much more so than Thai guys who may post their nudes on Twitter or Tumblr (in the past). Maybe the HK guys' discretion is mistaken for aloofness because many of them are professionals or executives and they want desperately to remain in the closet.

 

In the Philippines we have a mix heritage like most of the fair skin have spanish or american blood. So they attract local guys and asian guys that fancy fair skin people. But for my skin type natural brown skin mostly foreigners they love our olive skin color. That's why white guys would come up to me and flirt. I was there last nov 2018 in sg and thailand. I went to kb cruise shogun and 10men and white guys would hit me and asian guys snob me maybe they don't like my color. Same in thailand I went to sauna mania were mostly asian guys are there and they just passed by compared to Babylon I was a hot comodity for white guys. 

 

 

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On 1/4/2019 at 3:49 PM, Thatwasawes said:

 

Arena Massage - definitely a notti massage place lol. when i went there on new year day, i could select from a range of muscled guys of various ages who would stand and model waiting to be chosen lol. you might want to wait a bit longer before choosing coz some of them may be hiding in a room and they don't get called out, but if they do come out, you will see more hot guys lol. i had a pretty tiring night before and my body was sore from all the gymming so i wanted to choose 2 hours of oil massage. i chose this young masseur who was apparently straight but he gave me a blowjob without asking me if i wanted one. so i had to tip him unwillingly -_- but then i got a bit smart and i told him i don't want him to do the next hour of my massage, and i got to choose an older but cute and hot guy instead. he was way better in massage and teasing my body, compared to the young guy (who was only clearly into happy endings n tips). he made it feel much better with his body to body massage. oh btw, the masseurs there seem to start the massage sessions fully nude for some reason lol. However, the tipping here is pretty high as well =/

 


yup this is definitely a tried and tested trick the masseuse use,, not just the ones at Arena.

the best defence is to remain flaccid, despite the teasing, light touches and presses .it's hard, I know! (pun unintended) over the years of visiting bangkok massages (places both known for HE and not) , i've trained myself not to get a reaction so the masseuse has to finish his massage properly. so most of the time they try to finish like 20 mins before actual time is up,  I can usually sense this when they stop massaging, and start taking off their clothes/briefs.

depending on the guy, i can make the choice whether to turn him down or not. most of the time it will be a polite decline, but every now and then, there is a guy too good to turn down...

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2 hours ago, tomcat said:


yup this is definitely a tried and tested trick the masseuse use,, not just the ones at Arena.

the best defence is to remain flaccid, despite the teasing, light touches and presses .it's hard, I know! (pun unintended) over the years of visiting bangkok massages (places both known for HE and not) , i've trained myself not to get a reaction so the masseuse has to finish his massage properly. so most of the time they try to finish like 20 mins before actual time is up,  I can usually sense this when they stop massaging, and start taking off their clothes/briefs.

depending on the guy, i can make the choice whether to turn him down or not. most of the time it will be a polite decline, but every now and then, there is a guy too good to turn down...

Masturbate before go massage then got no urge to do extra....

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42 minutes ago, bkkuser said:

well at a place like Arena you can't really decline, because it is part of the whole package, hence the minimum tip these places require. So if you decline anyway, that's your choice but the masseur will still be entitled to the (pretty high) minimum tip

 

I'm a noob haha but thank you for letting me know about this! At least I now know a massage place like arena exists

When it comes to Guest accounts in BW, it is always best to take their words with a pinch of salt or to ignore them. 

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2 hours ago, Sudu said:

Getting tease during massage is one of the most pleasurable thing to feel, why deny that pleasure. A polite no usually works if you dont want the extra service.


because in this type of situations Yes means Yes, No also means Yes.

 

the only true affirmation is soft cock, haha. despite soft, still can enjoy the contact right? :)

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13 minutes ago, Sudu said:

If no also means yes, u can ask is it free? Lol money talks here as well

 
I did once before, cos the masseuse himself get high massaging my ass, and then whisper in my ear "Special na?"
So I say "OK krap, you pay me 6000 baht, na" hahahahah.
 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Sudu said:

Getting tease during massage is one of the most pleasurable thing to feel, why deny that pleasure. A polite no usually works if you dont want the extra service.

In Bangkok, it is understood that only gays would choose male masseurs for sex. That's why some straight massage places also have male masseurs, gays are a big part of the customer base in Bangkok not to be ignored. But don't expect these masseurs to be those pretty boys type of gay massage places, they are the more earthy types. Even though I like my men to be manly, some of these masseurs are ugly beyond what I'll even accept.

 

However, I still like to look around when I'll passing by any straight massage places to see if the masseurs there are nice looking. I'm usually disappointed. But sometimes there'll be a beefy masseur there and I'll go in and directly point him. 

After being so obvious, I still prefer to pretend that I want a proper massage first. But he'll be more interested to go straight to sex and get his money. For the first free minutes he'll try to do a decent massage. I'll pretend to be so relaxed and asleep. He'll tease my balls, finger my hole, caress my nipples as he massage. I guess he's waiting for me to ask for the total service. Fact is that they're straight and still don't think masculine men like to get fucked, so they don't dare to ask directly.

Despite me wiggling and softly moaning under his manipulation, I didn't ask. 

Sometimes he'll lose patience and whisper into my ears, "boss, you want me buk buk here?" as his fingers piston in and out of my hole. Somehow, he's afraid to offend me using the word fuck directly. I play along by not directly nodding my head but muttering an ambiguous mmmm softly.

But most times, he'll be very experienced and aware that there are masculine bottoms who like to be taken by force. I guess the way I moaned and responded to his fingering by pushing out to receive it and my pretending to be asleep in spite of body language saying otherwise. He won't ask, he'll just simply mount me and fuck my lights out.

This is exactly the kind of rough tops that I crave for. God damned it, don't ask, just take me and treat me like a whore. This type of aggressive tops are so difficult to find in the saunas because I'm too beefy myself that most assume that I'm a top. So I'll find these masseurs to supplement my needs.

The most important thing about aggressive tops is that once they smell my type of bottom, they know exactly what I need. I want it rough without mercy or shame. Me paying and choosing a beefy masseur and responding so contradictingly to his manipulations, when he finally takes me, it's a challenge to him to tear down my pretense mask and fuck me till I'm the twisted piece of meat that want men to use me.

Strangely enough, because I'm paying for the service,  I'm treated lower than those at the saunas where at least sex was free. I heard that's what they say that some men purposely pay for this type of degrading dirty sex that's difficult to get at the saunas. These cheap massage places have only curtains or very thin wall partitions so those outside can clearly hear me getting fucked loud and hard. Some would even peep, I'm not an exhibitionist but then it's the price of this type of game. But because in Bangkok it's not against the law, unlike other countries, so it's not worrying for me. I'll never dare to do that in Singapore.

However, occasionally I'll get a masseur who's not into me and his half hearted teasing got nowhere. Then I'll keep pretending to be sleeping till the end without sex which is fine for both of us. I hate unwillingly tops who couldn't stimulate my inner sluttyness. 

 

 

 

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On Sun Jan 06 2019 at 8:26 PM, Sudu said:

https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/12173-trip-report-christmas-in-bangkok-and-new-year-in-pattaya/

 

My trip report in progress right now in a different forum. Have fun reading! Should be able to read as guest but only member can post reply and pm, something this forum might want to start doing. 

New material updated

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1 hour ago, Guest Masc btm said:

In Bangkok, it is understood that only gays would choose male masseurs for sex. That's why some straight massage places also have male masseurs, gays are a big part of the customer base in Bangkok not to be ignored. But don't expect these masseurs to be those pretty boys type of gay massage places, they are the more earthy types. Even though I like my men to be manly, some of these masseurs are ugly beyond what I'll even accept.

 

However, I still like to look around when I'll passing by any straight massage places to see if the masseurs there are nice looking. I'm usually disappointed. But sometimes there'll be a beefy masseur there and I'll go in and directly point him. 

After being so obvious, I still prefer to pretend that I want a proper massage first. But he'll be more interested to go straight to sex and get his money. For the first free minutes he'll try to do a decent massage. I'll pretend to be so relaxed and asleep. He'll tease my balls, finger my hole, caress my nipples as he massage. I guess he's waiting for me to ask for the total service. Fact is that they're straight and still don't think masculine men like to get fucked, so they don't dare to ask directly.

Despite me wiggling and softly moaning under his manipulation, I didn't ask. 

Sometimes he'll lose patience and whisper into my ears, "boss, you want me buk buk here?" as his fingers piston in and out of my hole. Somehow, he's afraid to offend me using the word fuck directly. I play along by not directly nodding my head but muttering an ambiguous mmmm softly.

But most times, he'll be very experienced and aware that there are masculine bottoms who like to be taken by force. I guess the way I moaned and responded to his fingering by pushing out to receive it and my pretending to be asleep in spite of body language saying otherwise. He won't ask, he'll just simply mount me and fuck my lights out.

This is exactly the kind of rough tops that I crave for. God damned it, don't ask, just take me and treat me like a whore. This type of aggressive tops are so difficult to find in the saunas because I'm too beefy myself that most assume that I'm a top. So I'll find these masseurs to supplement my needs.

The most important thing about aggressive tops is that once they smell my type of bottom, they know exactly what I need. I want it rough without mercy or shame. Me paying and choosing a beefy masseur and responding so contradictingly to his manipulations, when he finally takes me, it's a challenge to him to tear down my pretense mask and fuck me till I'm the twisted piece of meat that want men to use me.

Strangely enough, because I'm paying for the service,  I'm treated lower than those at the saunas where at least sex was free. I heard that's what they say that some men purposely pay for this type of degrading dirty sex that's difficult to get at the saunas. These cheap massage places have only curtains or very thin wall partitions so those outside can clearly hear me getting fucked loud and hard. Some would even peep, I'm not an exhibitionist but then it's the price of this type of game. But because in Bangkok it's not against the law, unlike other countries, so it's not worrying for me. I'll never dare to do that in Singapore.

However, occasionally I'll get a masseur who's not into me and his half hearted teasing got nowhere. Then I'll keep pretending to be sleeping till the end without sex which is fine for both of us. I hate unwillingly tops who couldn't stimulate my inner sluttyness. 

 

 

 

 

Fuck! I'm having a hard on while reading your story babe. I haven't watch porn or masturbate for almost 15 days. 

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...... But because in Bangkok it's not against the law, unlike other countries, so it's not worrying for me.....

That's is not a true statement. Sex in massage parlors are illegal. That being said, there are some small chance of you getting caught as law enforcement in Thailand are not really a thing, so please exercise some reasonable level of care.

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On 1/6/2019 at 7:53 PM, immortal said:

 

haha i think thats nakarat massage. indeed the boys are hot, and may be even hotter than the other massage shops around. 

This massage shop massage skill is below average even the masseuer is hot. Before massage already asking for tips. I banned this shop

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15 hours ago, Garyl said:

Always a achievement to get them horny.. well done:thumb:


But it's always the young lean (skinny) boys that always tend to get turned on - so they are not really my preference. *sad face*

So recently, I have been requesting bigger frame / beefy guys, because the lean masseuse(s) have smaller hands that tire quickly, and then start relying on using their sharp elbows. So painful. 

 

Also I tend to go for Thai massage, which is often clothed. I think it is more titillating than nude oil massage, where you are just laid there, everything exposed like a piece of meat, haha.

 

The thrill for them is in touching, feeling, and discovering which parts are nice to touch.

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9 hours ago, Guest Masc btm said:

I'll pretend to be so relaxed and asleep.

 

 

 


I tried that once and really kena by aggressive horny masseuse. afterwards at the counter, I ask the cashier who i am familiar with, if the guy is new. he said, yes just came from north thaliand and started only for 2 weeks. i wonder if this is how those horny straight Isan boys attack their women, haha. I'm beefy too, so maybe they have a beefy fetish.

inside every muscle man is a Mary, just begging to be defiled, haha

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21 minutes ago, tomcat said:


I tried that once and really kena by aggressive horny masseuse. afterwards at the counter, I ask the cashier who i am familiar with, if the guy is new. he said, yes just came from north thaliand and started only for 2 weeks. i wonder if this is how those horny straight Isan boys attack their women, haha. I'm beefy too, so maybe they have a beefy fetish.

inside every muscle man is a Mary, just begging to be defiled, haha

 

 

beefy strong tops are almost everyone's choice...what is there not to like..haha

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Nice trip report, i read with great interest haha.

 

I always get a bit turned off at Prime's waitlist. For an establishment of that size, I would expect enough rooms/staff to be working.

But it is always a wait, whether high season or not. Seems like it is standard procedure, as I sometimes hear the walke talkie go

"Thani raw, thani raw" which is basically, "make them wait - make them wait"

Often, if there is more than 45 min wait, I will go elsewhere. Once, I also booked a next day appointment, and paid in full as they requested,

the next day of course, they said the booking was never made.  Luckily I had requested a receipt.

This time round, I visited a new massage place called Paradise - along the road to Prime if you turn in from beside the hospital.

The masseuse was strong, and kinda daddy. And the place was very new and clean, it looked like a Muji.

The prices were a bit steep for my liking tho, but I will definitely visit again. I think the place used to be called Montara

 

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Ive read few good reports from people who also walked in to prime and being told they have to wait and went to paradise as well and had great time there too. But over there, its more of a gay massage place more than a legit mixed massage place like prime. Though i rarely see any women during my time there. Wasnt the case during previous trips though. Seems like the gay has invaded prime lol if price is your concerns, better avoid any massage center near tourist area. 

 

I will keep updating my reports over there. Glad you enjoy it.

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finally and a bit belated, here is a review of my recent visit(s) to Let's Relax Onsen in Thonglor. Many thanks to @TravellerAsian and  @Sudu for the initiative to go together and check this place out!

 

1. How to get there

The Spa & Onsen are located on the 5th floor of the Grand Centrepoint Hotel in Thonglor in the corner of Thonglor Soi 10. Of course one can go by taxi, but that's not always a good idea due to traffic. So if taking the BTS to Thonglor is a good way to get there, but has a drawback: the walk to the Hotel is pretty far, about 1km. BUT there is a super convenient and FREE alternative: the hotel runs a free shuttle from near the BTS to the hotel. The pick up spot is in front of the first 7/11 on the left hand side of Thonglor, just under 100m into Thonglor coming from Sukhumvit. Alternatively, you could take a motorbike taxi (they're waiting in the same area).

 

2. The Onsen

The Onsen is bigger than Yunomori and has the following facilities:

  • large japanese-style seated shower area
  • plus a "normal" standing shower area with 4 showers
  • a steam room
  • a large dry sauna
  • 3 hot onsen bath tubs of different temperatures and with different sorts of water
  • 1 large jacuzzi with 5 places (like booths), 3 seated and 2 standing
  • 1 cold tub
  • outside the actual onsen bath area a hot stone room, where you can lie on a heated stone floor (wearing the shorts and shirt provided), plus a cool-down room next to it, like a walk-in fridge

On my visit with Sudu and TravellerAsian the hot pools weren't really hot, all in the 38 degree range only. That struck me as odd and disappointing. On my second visit with some other friends just a few days later that was rectified, pool temperatures raged from 37.x to 40.x, as is to be expected.

 

All 4 pools (3 hot and 1 cold) are pretty large, accommodating quite a number of people, unlike the soda bath pool at Yunomori, which is rather small. The very large Onsen bath pool at Yunomori is always so hot (42), I never really go into it. 

 

The jacuzzi is peculiar in that it has the 3 seated booths and the 2 standing booths. The seated ones are pretty as any regular jacuzzi, nothing special. The standing ones, however, have much more powerful jets, coming from various directions, including from below. The result is that when standing there and positioning yourself appropriately (one good position is turning around to face the wall) you get a pretty strong massage of your dick and balls. Recommended!

 

The general atmosphere is quiet and relaxing, as you'd expect from an upscale onsen. Ceilings are very high (similar to Yunomori BKK), which adds to the pleasant roomy feeling (better than the low ceilings of Yunomori Singapore). As someone pointed out earlier here, the attendants are, well, quite attentive, and make sure nothing untoward happens, and also remind patrons who engage in conversation to keep their voices down. They do this my showing any offending guests a small placard with a silence symbol and some text to that effect. Also, they frequently wipe away into the drains any excess water on the floor. 

 

 

On both visits I didn't have enough time to try the hot stone room, unfortunately, so that aill be a reason to go back hehe. 

 

Summary: excellent onsen experience, though overall pretty similar to Yunomori BKK. But it is larger, feels even roomier, has some more and bigger pools, the special dick&balls massage jacuzzi lol. But it is also considerably more expensive, from Jan 1st increased to 700 Baht compared to 482 Baht at Yunomori. Given the price and the much farther distance (for me) I probably won't become a regular there, but continue to mostly go to the cheaper and much more conveniently located Yunomori. But definitely worth going, by all means. 

 

Oh and before I forget: it gets a bit busier in the evening, after office hours (same as Yunomori), and then there is eye candy to be had too, of course haha :D

 

 

 

 

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On 1/8/2019 at 12:50 AM, Sudu said:

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I enjoyed reading. It’s like 2nd nature how u guys handle the situation. I admire that. I could never feel at ease and feel at lost what to do or say, or even able to muster enuf courage to go alone. But would love to accompany any expert to witness “the works”! Hahaha

Anyway, am on way to BBK now for a meeting and will be back Sat afternoon. Guess I’ll just do my usual eating and foot massages for now. 

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1 hour ago, Saggiboy said:

I enjoyed reading. It’s like 2nd nature how u guys handle the situation. I admire that. I could never feel at ease and feel at lost what to do or say, or even able to muster enuf courage to go alone. But would love to accompany any expert to witness “the works”! Hahaha

Anyway, am on way to BBK now for a meeting and will be back Sat afternoon. Guess I’ll just do my usual eating and foot massages for now. 

if you need guidance, PM me, I'm always here :)

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