Discussion on Married Gay Men (有妇之夫) Whom Hv Gay Sex + An Open Letter to Married Men + Married men's stress & struggles (compiled)

[Guest Married]

Dear friends,

like to hear your views about married men going out to have gay fun.

Appreciate if you could also participate in the following poll during your reply (you may choose more than one):

A. Gay fun is extramarital sex and therefore bad - 0

B. Gay fun is ok, having another woman is not - 0

C. Gay fun is ok so long as the families are not hurt - 0

D. Gay friendship is ok but gay fun is not - 0

E. If Gay fun is desired, stick on a regular fun buddy - 0

F. Others (Specify)

Thank you in advance!!

[ry-d]

i personally think E is the best choice for married men. But have to consider the other party if he is willing to be a regular buddy.. Most of my partner are either attached or married to a woman. For me i am ok with it as i respect thier privacy. All for the matter of fun.

[kerbee10]

I choose F....

Personally feel that what is gay fun? or bi fun?

Married man having fun with another PLU, well........depends on individual, I mean that married man, hows his emotion have on seeing these fun......lustful and desire or out of something more?

As the old saying..can do anything but dun get caught........I would choose all in another perpective....

A. Gay fun is extramarital sex and therefore bad - 0

agreed...as to what extend....

B. Gay fun is ok, having another woman is not - 0

antoher woman means your wife?

C. Gay fun is ok so long as the families are not hurt - 0

Totally agreed...caution and safetly is a must...

D. Gay friendship is ok but gay fun is not - 0

Oso agreed........a PLU friend who is not in ur preferrence,better not to have fun...complicate things later...

E. If Gay fun is desired, stick on a regular fun buddy - 0

Agreed....casual fun,leads to many emotions changes....as times goes by..

What ever choices we made...think twice or thrice,and do not regret there after.

cheers

[Guest unknown]

Though it excites me to have sex with married men, but i think this group of people should be avoided. So my choice is A.

Whatever you do, be responsible for your words and actions.

[skylancer]

For me, i think is that everyone got different view but i will choose C.

Reason: 1st a married man is a guy who is responsble for his action and if he want to be with his wife then he must maintain the link between him, his sex buddy, his wife. But in the ending will be sad.

No offends

[worldangel]

I oso choose for C leh :oops: because if one day you kena 'caught' by the "so called authority" and the name appears in newspaper, the family oso dem 'malu' and the neighbours starting gossiping about you and family, you know lah :oops:

[Guest Married]

Hey guys! Thank you all for the candid response. Really appreciate it :clap:

Personally, I struggle with this issues.

A. Gay fun is extramarital sex and therefore bad

It is definitely extramarital sex and I do feel guilty at times. Something that pricks my conscience constantly.

B. Gay fun is ok, having another woman is not

When I got married, I committed that I will not have another woman other than my wife. So far, that has been true. But I don't think it is any different with having a man between our marriage too.

C. Gay fun is ok so long as the families are not hurt

I always practice safe sex and always exercise discretion for that matter.

D. Gay friendship is ok but gay fun is not

This is hard as often, the temptation is there. But I do have a few good gay online friends but we hardly or never meet.

E. If Gay fun is desired, stick on a regular fun buddy

Timing and commitment is an issue most of the time

Would love to hear from the married guys out there too.

Merry Christmas to all!

[thaiboyz]

Hey guys! Thank you all for the candid response. Really appreciate it :clap:

Personally, I struggle with this issues.

A. Gay fun is extramarital sex and therefore bad

It is definitely extramarital sex and I do feel guilty at times. Something that pricks my conscience constantly.

B. Gay fun is ok, having another woman is not

When I got married, I committed that I will not have another woman other than my wife. So far, that has been true. But I don't think it is any different with having a man between our marriage too.

C. Gay fun is ok so long as the families are not hurt

I always practice safe sex and always exercise discretion for that matter.

D. Gay friendship is ok but gay fun is not

This is hard as often, the temptation is there. But I do have a few good gay online friends but we hardly or never meet.

E. If Gay fun is desired, stick on a regular fun buddy

Timing and commitment is an issue most of the time

Would love to hear from the married guys out there too.

Merry Christmas to all!

My personal views are :

Once a man get commitment to a woman, he should love her with all his heart. I dun think it fair to have extramarital affair besides your wife. Its already bad enough if a married man seeing another woman, and its terrible for his wife to realise her hubby is screwing around with men! Imagine if our wives ( if only we have) are sleeping with other women...disgusting feeling rite ? So we must also be sensitive to her feelings lah.

Safe sex is a must regardless of family or himself. Dun be a burden to yourself, your love ones and the society due to ill health. Play hard but smart! Be safe and enjoy the great journey of sexual fun ahead!

:hat:

[Guest Aronnax]

Dear Married Homosexual men of Singapore,

I have been on this site for the better half of a year now, usually just lurking around the corners of topics and posts, finding it an interesting mix of erotic and curious at the inner thoughts and discussions of a Singaporean Gay Community. This forum has seen much in its activity. Sexual tips, fetish discussions, cruising spot areas, news adverts, hot people, the occasional pxxnography exchange, love advice, hook-ups, meet-ups and more. Some of them are new to me, others are obvious things and some are just plainly erotic and horny to read. But there is one thing that is a common and absolute running theme in this forum is the use of it by married men to get hookups.

I may be gay, I may be young at 18 years of age, I may be inexperienced in life and boast no real authority or credentials to my name or rank. I do not know or understand the reasons or issues of the other people in life and thus I may be in no position to say what I want to say. But I just cannot stand it.

Married Men of this site, please stop abusing the vows of your marriage. Please stop using this site as a tool to cheat on your wife and betray your family. Please stop proudly claiming your marriage status and using it as some sort of fetish to get hook ups and sexual favours.

I don't care if you were pressured into marriage or that you no longer loved your wife or never loved your wife in the first place. I don't care if you discover halfway through your marriage that you are gay or that you married out of convenience. I don't care.

Just stop abusing your spouses. Stop lying to them and betraying them.

I'm not religious. I share no faith with any church or temple or mosque. But I believe that you should never lie, cheat or betray the person you have married, in most circumstances, gay or straight. You are being selfish and unfair to them. They do not deserve such brazen behaviour. If you want to have sex with other men, go ahead. But accept the consequences first and come clean with your spouse first.

Thank you.

Aronnax

[GachiMuchi]

I've decided to changed the above topic title from "An Open Letter" to "An Open Letter to Married Men" so as to reflect the content it addresses. Moreover, its title crash with an earlier topic started by Larry.

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Here is my take young boy,

Speaking in a neutral position; As much as we want all men not to commit crimes, there will still be crimes committed by men. In a perfect world, there will be no wars & crimes and everyone lives happily every after. Straight men gets married, have kids and a good paying job..and in a perfect world, gay most probably shouldn't even exist. But then, this world isn't perfect, is it? So, live and let live. Let the Str8 men, deal with their problems and you, yours. What others does is their own prerogative, they will have to deal with their own shit. Isn't it so?

[Clickclock]

actually, i kinda agree with arronax on this one.

it's just isnt fair for the families affected through this kinda activity.

These people should have made their promises serious n concrete

[Guest hunk who wants a hunk]

I agree with TS.

I despised these married men cheating on their spouses behind their backs. It is just so irresponsible, and for the sake of satisfying his own selfish lust. The worst scenario is when these men gets AIDS or STDs and pass it on to their poor unsuspecting wives who gave their lives for these men.

Actually these doesn't apply to only them preying on gay men, but straight ones who go to prostitutes.

But I also agree with Gachi.

No one is perfect in this world, everyone have their individual thoughts and personalities. People still cheat on others, there are those who are rascists, there are those standby their own believes (terroism) etc etc.

[Guest beloved]

I fully agreed with Aronnax. Marriage is a life-time commitment. Don't use the excuse "got married under pressure". My ex left me to get married under his parent's pressure. Before we broke off, he told me he had turned straight and there was no point of return. He wanted me to forget him as if we never meet before. Years later, my PLU friends saw him cruising in gay sauna. Be it straight or gay, marriage or relationship is so vulnerable nowadays.

[Boya]

I fully agreed with Aronnax. Marriage is a life-time commitment. Don't use the excuse "got married under pressure". My ex left me to get married under his parent's pressure. Before we broke off, he told me he had turned straight and there was no point of return. He wanted me to forget him as if we never meet before. Years later, my PLU friends saw him cruising in gay sauna. Be it straight or gay, marriage or relationship is so vulnerable nowadays.

You know, this gay thing with married men is so common in Saigon. I frequent gay saunas in saigon all the time when I used to work there. I see similar faces in different saunas and they are openly married men who go around boasting to people they have wife and kids as if they are more superior to other unmarried gay men in the saunas. Been married is a social status for them - it is as if they have sacrificed themselves for the family concept and now they are free to do what they want or like since they have already fulfilled the role of the traditional man. Some of them top other boys, others get topped. Some keep 1 or more lovers and pay for their motorbikes or even house, until they get sick of them, then they change their game targets. Many visits gay cinemas because they are darker so people cannot see their faces clearly. Others go to swimming pools or public toilets. Never ending stories. To the young 18yo who post your open letter to these married men - I hope you will get older looking at life (and gay lives specifically) as diverse and individualistic as different species of marine lives in the ocean. Not eveyone is designed to behave like a nemo or harmless jellyfish. In the lives of most grown ups, stupidity and retardedness rule their minds most of the time. Zhuang Zi said that men become more stupid as they grow older - it is inevitable.

[Torrent]

An AJ friend of mine once contemplated about his relationship with a guy, on how both of them would get married with wives and then have children, and then behind their backs they would engage with one another. I told him, if he ever did that, I would just drop our friendship.

Either you're in or you're out, there are no degrees in honesty.

Edited January 18, 2011 by Torrent

[Guest Moral]

Another moral crusader telling others to live life the way he wanted. U r no different to religious bigots.

Marriage vows? The traditional Chinese marriage has no such thing. Marriage is to form a family with children to carry on the family name. Sex outside marriage is tolerated as long as he takes care of the family. He has done his duty. Can't he enjoy life at the same time?

I'm gay & not bound by the rules set by the hetro world. Hey we r given the devine right to sex, sex, & more sex with many men!

I'm not married. I support married gay men seeking gay sex. There r already not enough gay men to go around. Moreover I believe most r married. Pls don't deprive me the largest pool of gay men!

[Guest Guest]

Well done Aronnax!!!

[trevorcantona]

I am not defending what these married man has done.

But remember bisexuals actually have one of the most tricky moral issues.

I am not sure how many of us can understand how hard it is to be both attracted to men and women!

I know of bis who stick to one partner at a time, but who are we to judge who and how many people they fall in love with at any given time?

though i would agree that bis should be fair to their wifes or bf by letting them know of the existence of their lovers/wife, sometimes with children involved, I am not sure if that maybe the fairest way. I dont think we can judge everything single case like as if they are the same.

perhaps we should not even judge at all...

[Guest Graham]

I guess each case is different and really no need to judge married gay or bi men. Everyone need to come out ib their own way and time. Dont assume all gay married men have sex with their wife, that all want the best of both worlds. The important thing is we are all happy and dobt hurt others. Better to be open that you are gay n married with kids than not ? Btw marriage or relationships are not always forever and have their natural cause. Wedding vows or not. Divorce isnt always the ideal options esp when young children involved as the legal and follow up system or society isnt always there to support. So backbto my point dont generalise or judge and try show some love and understanding to anyone who needs it esp gay guys with wife and kids who may need it more than most.

[Guest Glass House]

Gays have been the victims of the oppressive morals of others, and gay people should be the last to judge others.

Really holy men of the past have never let themselves judge others. Even Jesus befriended prostitutes. It was the so called "holy" and "moralistic" Pharisees that in the end persecuted him.

To point a finger and blame a group for their alleged mistakes and faults, is so MM Lee! Unity and understanding can only come from acceptance and trying to unravel the complex world of sexuality and desire.

Nobody is perfect, and every human being is full of flaws. We have enough of our own, and dont need to point out those of others.

[delboy27]

some of wat u ppl r saying is bull shit.....wat do u mean case by case. no such thing.. bi or no. if ur married, ur married!!!! simple as that there should not be another party involved thats just stupid if u cant commit to one person. then DONT GET MARRIED !!!!....its not rocket science ppl .think b4 u speak

[Guest Guest]

Oh yes, marital infidelity is always being judged, like it or not.

It has nothing to do with whether you are shagging a man or woman.

[chubachub9]

Look at what hypocrites we have here. While some are cursing married men for 'hiding' their sexual preferences, these forummers also have something to hide. Otherwise, why not post your comments with real face photos and names?

Afraid of out-ting yourselves to your friends/family who still don't know about your sexual orientation? Who's 'hiding' then?

We all have our reasons for doing the things we do. And among all the 'minority' groups in Singapore, people in the GBLT community should know better than to judge others.

Edited February 1, 2011 by chubachub9

[marky]

Years ago, a +20yo guy rebuked me for straying. My reply to him was :

"Yes, admittedly I was. However, he was in no position to judge either cos I strayed only when I was in my mid 30s. In this internet age where temptations loom large, can he claim to be a saint himself? If he himself can remain a saint till past +30yo then he is free to judge me."

Just a year later when he is still in his early 20s. He sheepishly admitted to me he did something horrible. He got to know an attached KL guy online and even went up to KL to have sex with him in their apartment. The bf found out within days and there was a confrontation... So much for some guy who had considered himself way better than others...

My point is :

1) There's no doubt what married men do outside their marriage is wrong.

2) However, most youngsters are idealistic. I have no problems with that though. But can these youngsters live up to their own ideals in the years to come?

3) What is wrong is also relative : To such youngsters, adultery is very wrong. But to the majority hetersexual population out there, the gay sex that these same moralistic youngsters engage in is also wrong. Don't forget that adultery is not illegal but gay sex is. So who then is more wrong?

Before one wants to talk about the splinter in another person, do remove that log from your own eyes first. If you can live till your 60s and still remain a saint by everybody's standards, then by all means criticise all you want. Otherwise, you are no better than the rest here.

Get off your moral high horse. Live and let live...

[suckmenao]

One of these days, I would like to track down the IP address of the ones who posted as married man and tell their wives 1 by 1 :whistle:

[Guest Moral]

Very chien ..... So only monk/pastor/holy man can judge u married man? No no .... Not even monk can. Bcos our most prestigous monk/pastor also make mistakes .....haha... And if a married man has gay sex, he should be convicted twice, 1. For adultry and 2. Charge undernthe penal code xxx ......haha

So actually not many can judge u and u should cintinue your sex spree till u r sick or being discovered by your spouse.

My dear dear friend, you have signed an agreement with her to love her/ protect her and takecare of her for the rest of her life. If the married man has kids and the hurts will be even more devastating to the family...... What happeneed if your wife is a lesbian .... Pls don't judge her ok !!! U r likely a lawyer.... Haha

So whether to judge or not is still not upto U married man to say. We all have all the reason to judge U!

[chubachub9]

Haha! Good one! But what if a married man tracks your IP down and outs you to your whole family, friends and colleagues? ;-)

One of these days, I would like to track down the IP address of the ones who posted as married man and tell their wives 1 by 1 :whistle:

[Guest happy new year]

Sigh .. so many 'holier than thou' people.

Why not just leave people to live their own lives and not judge them?

I am sure most of the married gay men had enough stress on their own, they could have brought it upon themselves - very likely, but it's up to them to resolve their own problems and the other lives they have affected. If we are not helping, then we should just shut the fxxk up and have a happy bunny year!

[Guest FattChoy88]

It's a very well written email.

Concise and clear.

I tend to agree but then, who says being gay is the monopoly of single people.

Where I live, 95% of the men I meet up with are married, divorced or going to marry.

It's a cultural thing, and to an extent, it's their duty.

My conclusion, it's also not right of you to deny them the right to be gay.

Dear Married Homosexual men of Singapore,

I have been on this site for the better half of a year now, usually just lurking around the corners of topics and posts, finding it an interesting mix of erotic and curious at the inner thoughts and discussions of a Singaporean Gay Community. This forum has seen much in its activity. Sexual tips, fetish discussions, cruising spot areas, news adverts, hot people, the occasional pxxnography exchange, love advice, hook-ups, meet-ups and more. Some of them are new to me, others are obvious things and some are just plainly erotic and horny to read. But there is one thing that is a common and $!^*| running theme in this forum is the use of it by married men to get hookups.

I may be gay, I may be young at 18 years of age, I may be inexperienced in life and boast no real authority or credentials to my name or rank. I do not know or understand the reasons or issues of the other people in life and thus I may be in no position to say what I want to say. But I just cannot stand it.

Married Men of this site, please stop abusing the vows of your marriage. Please stop using this site as a tool to cheat on your wife and betray your family. Please stop proudly claiming your marriage status and using it as some sort of fetish to get hook ups and sexual favours.

I don't care if you were pressured into marriage or that you no longer loved your wife or never loved your wife in the first place. I don't care if you discover halfway through your marriage that you are gay or that you married out of convenience. I don't care.

Just stop abusing your spouses. Stop lying to them and betraying them.

I'm not religious. I share no faith with any church or temple or mosque. But I believe that you should never lie, cheat or betray the person you have married, in most circumstances, gay or straight. You are being selfish and unfair to them. They do not deserve such brazen behaviour. If you want to have sex with other men, go ahead. But accept the consequences first and come clean with your spouse first.

Thank you.

Aronnax

[Heowolf]

we only live once. as long as we do not bring STDs home, i think having fun is harmless.

do things with an open mind, my friend used to say

[Guest Marad44]

Gays have been the victims of the oppressive morals of others, and gay people should be the last to judge others...

A good point Glass House. There is discrimination going on within and outside the gay community. When one points a finger at someone, three fingers point at him. The bisexual political support was enormous when gay recognition went to legislature in many countries. One day it will be the Singapore gays' turn. I hope the gays will keep that in mind.

Edited December 11, 2011 by Marad44

[dsd]

I am screwing a married man.

Some more he's a pastor.

Lord, I'm such a sinner.

I love screwing married man

Some how they more manly

I not only one, surely?

I imagine I screw him and he screw her.

And all that happening at once.

Wonder if I'll ever get the chance?

I love screwing married men

Today is A, tomorrow is B

Just hop around like a bumble bee

[Guest Guest]

I am screwing a married man. Some more he's a pastor. Lord, I'm such a sinner.

Now I know - Heaven is not just up-there, it is actually down-there and everywhere. Did you see the tunnel filled with lights?!

[junxiang]

One of these days, I would like to track down the IP address of the ones who posted as married man and tell their wives 1 by 1

For a start, I want to track you down and ask your parents if you got more right to suck a man's cock or get fxxk by men than I have, just because you are single.

[qez]

I don't care if you were pressured into marriage or that you no longer loved your wife or never loved your wife in the first place. I don't care if you discover halfway through your marriage that you are gay or that you married out of convenience. I don't care.

If you don't care, then why should they care about what you say?

[junxiang]

Dear Married Homosexual men of Singapore, I have been on this site for the better half of a year now, usually just lurking around the corners of topics and posts, finding it an interesting mix of erotic and curious at the inner thoughts and discussions of a Singaporean Gay Community. This forum has seen much in its activity. Sexual tips, fetish discussions, cruising spot areas, news adverts, hot people, the occasional pxxnography exchange, love advice, hook-ups, meet-ups and more. Some of them are new to me, others are obvious things and some are just plainly erotic and horny to read. But there is one thing that is a common and $!^*| running theme in this forum is the use of it by married men to get hookups. I may be gay, I may be young at 18 years of age, I may be inexperienced in life and boast no real authority or credentials to my name or rank. I do not know or understand the reasons or issues of the other people in life and thus I may be in no position to say what I want to say. But I just cannot stand it. Married Men of this site, please stop abusing the vows of your marriage. Please stop using this site as a tool to cheat on your wife and betray your family. Please stop proudly claiming your marriage status and using it as some sort of fetish to get hook ups and sexual favours. I don't care if you were pressured into marriage or that you no longer loved your wife or never loved your wife in the first place. I don't care if you discover halfway through your marriage that you are gay or that you married out of convenience. I don't care. Just stop abusing your spouses. Stop lying to them and betraying them. I'm not religious. I share no faith with any church or temple or mosque. But I believe that you should never lie, cheat or betray the person you have married, in most circumstances, gay or straight. You are being selfish and unfair to them. They do not deserve such brazen behaviour. If you want to have sex with other men, go ahead. But accept the consequences first and come clean with your spouse first. Thank you. Aronnax

Do you have an issue with married man? were u jilted by them once?

If you do a survey on the street, 8 out of 10 people would say you are a pervert, weird, just because you get fxxked by man, whether you are married or not.

There again, who are these people to judge? There are even married woman who ask hubby to find a man to fxxk him for her to see, plenty on line. Or to have multiple parties sex.

Why is "Open Letter" to married man and not to others? at 18yo? Maybe u found out your dad is gay too and have an issue? I really dunno. But I know you must have an agenda for just aiming at married man. Perhaps u like to share?

Different people got different taste or preference. While you have a open letter here, the is another hot thread in the personal forum seeking married man.

When u going to have another letter penalising uncles for going after young grass or the other way?

Or those people seeking money via sex? or those who seeking no less than 100kg?

If u expect your parents, friends, relatives and everybody in the society to accept you being gay, why can't you accept others for whatever reasons?

Why can't we just respect or at least have some tolerance on each other's preference and not create trouble and disharmony here?

At your age, there are much better and more positive things to do right?

Edited December 11, 2011 by junxiang

[Retadin]

Do you have an issue with married man? were u jilted by them once? If you do a survey on the street, 8 out of 10 people would say you are a pervert, weird, just because you get fxxked by man, whether you are married or not. There again, who are these people to judge? There are even married woman who ask hubby to find a man to fxxk him for her to see, plenty on line. Or to have multiple parties sex. Why is "Open Letter" to married man and not to others? at 18yo? Maybe u found out your dad is gay too and have an issue? I really dunno. But I know you must have an agenda for just aiming at married man. Perhaps u like to share? Different people got different taste or preference. While you have a open letter here, the is another hot thread in the personal forum seeking married man. When u going to have another letter penalising uncles for going after young grass or the other way? Or those people seeking money via sex? or those who seeking no less than 100kg? If u expect your parents, friends, relatives and everybody in the society to accept you being gay, why can't you accept others for whatever reasons? Why can't we just respect or at least have some tolerance on each other's preference and not create trouble and disharmony here? At your age, there are much better and more positive things to do right?

He has every right to write an open letter to targeted at married men. If you do not like his content, then simply don't read it and MYOFB. If u wish to infer the fact that he has an agenda and either 1) has a gay father or 2) has been jilted by a married man. Then lets throw it back to you? So does this mean you are a supporter of adultery? Or perhaps u enjoy getting fxxked by married straight man way too much that you cannot bear for them to be targeted?

This is what he wanted to write about and more power to him that he actually wrote it. Don't come and shit all over someone else's stuff just because you dont have the ability to take an opposing stand in the open.

Does a supporter of, say, the children's cancer foundation also have to be a supporter of EVERY single cause out there? NO! Do they NEED to explain to you why they support it? NO! So before u go mouthing of asking people to have better and more positive thing to do, try repeating the same thing over and over again to yourself. Just because you are old and jaded, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to be.

No one forced those men to get married and make vows to be the one and only for their partners. If they CHOSE to make those vows then stick to it! There is no grey area. There is no 'gay' or 'straight' differentiation. This isn't a question of idealism of a child. This is excuses formed by ill-disciplined adults with the incapability of controlling their lust. They could just as easily stay single and fxxk around the world with every gender and in-between if they so please.

So to all married men, you made a vow to be there for your wives. Do JUST THAT. Or else, get a divorce. Don't give some lame-assed excuse of confusion and just man up!

[junxiang]

He has every right to write an open letter to targeted at married men. If you do not like his content, then simply don't read it and MYOFB. If u wish to infer the fact that he has an agenda and either 1) has a gay father or 2) has been jilted by a married man. Then lets throw it back to you? So does this mean you are a supporter of adultery? Or perhaps u enjoy getting fxxked by married straight man way too much that you cannot bear for them to be targeted? This is what he wanted to write about and more power to him that he actually wrote it. Don't come and shit all over someone else's stuff just because you dont have the ability to take an opposing stand in the open. Does a supporter of, say, the children's cancer foundation also have to be a supporter of EVERY single cause out there? NO! Do they NEED to explain to you why they support it? NO! So before u go mouthing of asking people to have better and more positive thing to do, try repeating the same thing over and over again to yourself. Just because you are old and jaded, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to be. No one forced those men to get married and make vows to be the one and only for their partners. If they CHOSE to make those vows then stick to it! There is no grey area. There is no 'gay' or 'straight' differentiation. This isn't a question of idealism of a child. This is excuses formed by ill-disciplined adults with the incapability of controlling their lust. They could just as easily stay single and fxxk around the world with every gender and in-between if they so please. So to all married men, you made a vow to be there for your wives. Do JUST THAT. Or else, get a divorce. Don't give some lame-assed excuse of confusion and just man up!

actually i read from top to btm but dunno what u barking about.

I dun need to answer to u about what vows I make and all that. Yes you are right, this is an open forum and you got every right to write any dam thing u want here but you must also be prefer to take whatever commons that people write about u.

whether I support adultery or not, lust or old or jaded has nothing to do with the subject and I am also not answerable to you regarding this subject.

whether a person's decision to take whatever path he decide, be it adultery or whatever, he bear his own consequence and is not of yr fxxking business, unless the party involved is your mum and you are trying to protect her interest as a wife and your interest as a son.

That one I and everyone here will understand, otherwise what we did is as you said, NOYFB.

[junxiang]

but even that, you can only blame your father for not holding to his marriage vow and not blame the entire Singapore married man community which is NOYFB

[Retadin]

LOL its funny how u can preach that it is "an open forum and you got every right to write any dam thing u want here" but yet u yourself cant accept other people's COMMENTS. Just as you do not have to answer to me, he does not need to answer to you. So, STFU. You're just a troll who sleeps around your own wives back cuz u probably dont have the guts to come out of the closet yourself. That is truly pathetic. And dragging my family into this. Oh. THAT'S SO ORIGINAL. Just like what you said to the original poster. LOL.

and of course you can't understand from top to btm what i wrote. You can barely type legible english. Learn to type. Learn to form an opinion without sounding like a douchebag. Oh wait. You probably are one since the only way u know how to communicate is resorting to personal attacks. Pathetic.

[Retadin]

oh and poor thing. I guess u know those family situations so well cuz u probably been through it urself? Slept with your father did u? hahaha Well, with your moral compass, i won't put it pass you.

Edited December 11, 2011 by Exiaencephalon

[junxiang]

LOL its funny how u can preach that it is "an open forum and you got every right to write any dam thing u want here" but yet u yourself cant accept other people's COMMENTS. Just as you do not have to answer to me, he does not need to answer to you. So, STFU. You're just a troll who sleeps around your own wives back cuz u probably dont have the guts to come out of the closet yourself. That is truly pathetic. And dragging my family into this. Oh. THAT'S SO ORIGINAL. Just like what you said to the original poster. LOL. and of course you can't understand from top to btm what i wrote. You can barely type legible english. Learn to type. Learn to form an opinion without sounding like a douchebag. Oh wait. You probably are one since the only way u know how to communicate is resorting to personal attacks. Pathetic.

haha, really little kids, now resort to finding faults with my English and the way I type.

Ok la, baby, let u win lor.

[Guest jayy]

True story: A married man fxxking around somewhere out there has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on my life.

[Guest Marad44]

John 8:7 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone': http://range.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/let-he-who-is-without-sin-cast-the-first-stone/

[Guest passerby]

Nobody told the idiot who started this topic to sleep with one. If it isn't your thing, then don't do it.

[Guest Analogy]

Those who rant about the immorality of married men having sex outside marriage here sound so much like the group of people asking gay sex to be kept illegal due to its immorality.

[Guest open letter to Aronnax]

Hi Aronnax, I have come across various cases of open marriage. Marriage is not about having sex only with one's spouse. Marriage is about love, but sex is not love. Sex and love are two different matters. It is up to the people in relationships to agree to whatever arrangements they want to have - be in a fully open relationship, a partially open relationship or an exclusively closed relationship. Sounds like you are really too young and too inexperience and having insufficient wisdom to understand. But your wisdom will grow as you grow up.

Dear Married Homosexual men of Singapore, I have been on this site for the better half of a year now, usually just lurking around the corners of topics and posts, finding it an interesting mix of erotic and curious at the inner thoughts and discussions of a Singaporean Gay Community. This forum has seen much in its activity. Sexual tips, fetish discussions, cruising spot areas, news adverts, hot people, the occasional pxxnography exchange, love advice, hook-ups, meet-ups and more. Some of them are new to me, others are obvious things and some are just plainly erotic and horny to read. But there is one thing that is a common and $!^*| running theme in this forum is the use of it by married men to get hookups. I may be gay, I may be young at 18 years of age, I may be inexperienced in life and boast no real authority or credentials to my name or rank. I do not know or understand the reasons or issues of the other people in life and thus I may be in no position to say what I want to say. But I just cannot stand it. Married Men of this site, please stop abusing the vows of your marriage. Please stop using this site as a tool to cheat on your wife and betray your family. Please stop proudly claiming your marriage status and using it as some sort of fetish to get hook ups and sexual favours. I don't care if you were pressured into marriage or that you no longer loved your wife or never loved your wife in the first place. I don't care if you discover halfway through your marriage that you are gay or that you married out of convenience. I don't care. Just stop abusing your spouses. Stop lying to them and betraying them. I'm not religious. I share no faith with any church or temple or mosque. But I believe that you should never lie, cheat or betray the person you have married, in most circumstances, gay or straight. You are being selfish and unfair to them. They do not deserve such brazen behaviour. If you want to have sex with other men, go ahead. But accept the consequences first and come clean with your spouse first. Thank you. Aronnax

[Guest Marad44]

... But your wisdom will grow as you grow up.

Hear hear!

[Guest Guest]

Those who rant about the immorality of married men having sex outside marriage here sound so much like the group of people asking gay sex to be kept illegal due to its immorality.

Check out the following post by one of those asses:

http://www.blowingwi...ndpost&p=223609

Btw, me against married gay/bi men who fxxks around especially with other guys behind their wives' backs is not a matter of being judgemental and narrow-minded. This is a very basic moral principle. Not only are they hurting their wives and children if they come to find out, the third parties which are the gay guys get hurt too once they invested their feelings into this affair.

[Guest Marad44]

Those who rant about the immorality of married men having sex outside marriage here sound so much like the group of people asking gay sex to be kept illegal due to its immorality.

Nice angle Analogy.

Bi's get bashed from both the hetero and homo groups though the bi's, including the married, have rallied behind the gays on their march to equal rights.