The Death Of Gay Tumblr Blogs?

[hbst]

(If you never surf gay Tumblr blogs, you can skip this topic.)

 

Today is a dark day for the SG gay Tumblr community. Last night, a number of gay Tumblr blogs were terminated, including mine (hbst3901), wowsgboy, byrankhoo, fuckyeahwhysoserious, sgnaughtyhappy, sgstarboys, sgstargazing, sgtwinklover, sgschoolboys3, tamanjurong86, etc (There may be many more…)

 

The reason given by Tumblr for terminating my blog is that my blog contained child porn. (I guess the other blogs were terminated for the same reason.) I think it's crap, because I had taken great care not to feature minors in my blog after my previous one was terminated in June for the same reason. There was no warning from Tumblr, no chance to appeal and no information on which post was reported / responsible for the termination. Maybe it's a worldwide operation carried out by Tumblr to eradicate the exposure of minors. Maybe someone underaged reported these blogs for privacy violation. I won't know the actual reason behind the termination. I feel like being stabbed in the back without knowing who is the one holding the knife and what's his motive. 

 

Some guys, especially those shy, curious and horny ones, love such blogs, because these blogs provide an anonymous outlet for them to satisfy their sexual fantasies. Many guys have no courage (yet) to seek real guys so they come to our blogs to ogle at hot guys featured in our posts. I'm touched by the many messages from my followers, thanking me for my efforts in sharing all the hot contents on my blog.

 

But then, there are also people who hate these blogs. Among them, there are homophobic people, who dislike gays in the first place. Some people want to uphold the clean and sterile image of Singapore, as you can see in the following example: http://www.blowingwind.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=49681. Surprisingly, there are gay guys who hate these blogs too. Some feel that bloggers like me taint the reputation of SG gays, as these blogs seem to portray all SG gays as superficial sex-hungry sluts, like the guys in the porn videos. (Come on lah… My blog is a porn blog, and porn is not real!) Of course, some guys hate these blogs for exposing their private pics/vids. On one hand, I'm really sorry for any distress caused to these guys. On the other hand, I feel that the hot guys should take their exposure as a compliment. Tumblr bloggers like me are very selective when it come to sharing pics/vids, and we only share what we think is hot. If you are featured, that means you're hot! (LOL!) Of course, if you're unhappy about your pics/vids being exposed, I can cooperate with you to remove them. No need to curse, swear, or threaten me. (The more stunts you do, the more attention you will attract to yourself.)

 

Anyway, back to the main point. Right now I'm still in shock over the mass-termination of SG gay Tumblr blogs. Out of all the terminated blogs, I don't know how many of them will return. Some bloggers told me that they will not return. Some told me that they will set up a new blog, but everything will have to start from scratch again. As for me, I'm still undecided. I have not been updating my blog for the past 1-2 weeks due to some personal issues. Maintaining a blog, especially a SG gay porn blog, is not easy. I don't know whether I have the stamina to hold on. Some SG gay blogs managed to survive this "raid", such as stayinghard, merlionboys, beew21, imfromsingapore, sghotbois, onlysporemen, etc. Treasure their presence while they are still around, as you may not know when they will suddenly disappear.

 

Is the era of gay Tumblr blogs coming to an end in SG, or will the Tumblr community in SG bounce back? I can't tell for now, but one thing for sure is, things will never be the same as before...

 

[hotphoenix]

i think merlionboys and 4pics have also been taken down......haizzzz so sad

[hbst]

Is it? When I last checked, these blogs are still around...

 

http://merlionboys.tumblr.com

 

http://4pics1guy.tumblr.com

[Guest Guest]

The complaint was actually started by a gay boy in denial who was unhappy some of the blogs featured his jerkoff pics. He later claim to lodged a police report.

[bluerunner]

Oh that sucks. Merlionboys has many good postings.

[ArchDragon]

Not only SG, even Taiwan/china based are also shut down. Xiaohaogaypics, qingshuangbx, nick779751, sttpee.

[Guest Guest]

Omg why??!!

Fuckyeahwhysoserious and sgnaughtyhappy are the ones i always go to. Hot guys and quality posts!

[hotphoenix]

gay boy in denial??? hahah, is it Jonathan?

[Guest gues]

The complaint was actually started by a gay boy in denial who was unhappy some of the blogs featured his jerkoff pics. He later claim to lodged a police report.

 

How did you find out?

[hbst]

Even American ones, such as esvault, is shut down. Esvault is American-Asian. I used to visit his chatroom during my early days of "tumblr-hood". Esvault even broadcasted his cam in his chatroom and showed us his jerk-off. LOL.

 

Damn… I'm going to miss everyone on Tumblr.

[Eujiboo]

How did you find out?

We know because his response/pictures were posted up on respective blogs .

My blog was also taken down a month or two ago with the same reason .

[Guest Guest]

Well, did your blog contain pictures of minors or not? Don't you think there should be a zero tolerance policy regarding pictures of people <Banned Words>?

[bluerunner]

Not too long ago, there was a minor pic in one of the tumblr site if I have not mistaken. That could be the pic that triggers the avalanche shutdown process.

[Guest Guest]

I think the tumblr owners refuse to acknowledge a fact. While they didn't post kiddie porn, they posted pictures of students, teens i.e. minors, in their porn sites. Whatever they argue, do you think tumblr would prefer to be safe?

[Guest guest]

I think the ang mohs cant really tell the age of asian guys. They can easily be judged as under age ;p hence.....

Just a thought

[Eujiboo]

I'm pretty sure we bloggers know what to and not to post on our blogs - being shut down ain't fun . Also , we do keep it 18+ , guys could look younger than 18 maybe , not they're definitely over .

[Guest guest]

For u maybe. Sec students shirtless? in trunks? Borderline legal, u would think? And again in a porn site. Frankly, i think guys like hbst who actually got shut down for that before should be wondering whether he is already on some watchlist, instead of ranting here.

[joshTWjosh]

Well, there's many pics of secondary & JC kids on there. Not surprised if they got shut down.

[hbst]

OK guys, I get what you mean…. What you guys are saying is:

• Safe pics of adults in normal blog = ok
• Safe pics of minors in normal blog = ok
• Safe pics of adults in porn blog = ok
• Safe pics of minors in porn blog = not ok
• NSFW pics of adults in porn blog = ok
• NSFW pics of minors in porn blog = not ok

In summary, pics of minors, no matter safe or NSFW, should not be featured in porn blogs.

 

All along, I thought it was acceptable to share safe pics of schoolboys and teens on my blog, since my blog followers loved them and many other bloggers were doing it too. While Tumblr has a very strict "no child porn" policy, it doesn't say whether safe pics of minors in porn blogs are considered child porn. I don't even know I'm wrong, until you guys point it out here.

 

If I offend you in any way, I apologise. If you dislike me, what I can say is that I got my deserved outcome - my blog was terminated. Hope this makes you feel better.

[hbst]

If I start a new blog, I can do my part and make my blog contents minor-free. I can flag my blog as NSFW and include warnings that my blog is 18+. But I cannot stop minors from viewing my blog, since Tumblr does not provide a screen or age check to stop minors from viewing NSFW blogs. Even with filters and censors, a horny curious teen will try all his means, such as lying about his age, to access the NSFW contents. (I believe many of you did that when you were <Banned Words>.)

 

Nowadays, guys reach sexual maturity at earlier ages. In a blowing wind poll (http://www.blowingwind.org/forum/?showtopic=25408), more than half of the poll participants have their first sexual encounter at 18 or below! Sometimes, I wonder what is the use of setting 18 years old as the legal age, when many guys are already watching porn and experimenting with sex at younger ages.

[sprintkayak]

so just wondering, what are the local tumblr sites, that is still available

[Guest Victimfriend]

Hbst, I believe you haven't truly thought about what you're doing. You might still not realize practically everything you do on your blog is illegal and an invitation for endless trouble.

 

1) It's a hugely bad idea to post images of minors, even if non-explicit on porn sites. There is the matter of by-association, or suggestive content. A clear example would be you don't see school uniformed teens on any commercial porn site, do you?

2) Distributing leaked sexual images is a crime. And you're not just sharing it with friends, you're posting it on a publically accessible site and encouraging the world to download. That adds to it.

3) Posting spy videos is a crime. Because the guys in them are victims. There is no consent. You are adding to the victimization.

4) As a Singaporean, I'm assuming you are, disseminating any form of pornography is a crime.

5) Downloading people's private pictures, hosting them on your site and facilitating sexual discussions i.e. is he gay, I heard he has done this etc etc, is questionable. But all it takes would be a vindictive nut to go all out to get you for slander or malicious intent. You might have kena a case of this before.

 

I'm sure there would be many guys telling you that everybody is also doing it. It's near impossible to trace. That they are so grateful to you for your service, dun listen to naysayers etc etc. Just consider whether any of these guys would be there to defend you if you're hauled to court. Consider too, or rather investigate, whether ignorance is ever an effective defense. You're expected to know and comply with the law, bottomline.

 

As for this thing you always talk on your site about not taking explicit pictures if you don't want them circulated, you obviously ignore the fact many guys didn't take the pics themselves. They might have been conned too, or spied on.

 

Lastly, consider the harm you did to some guys. You posted pictures of my friend, pictures leaked by my friend's ex. No doubt you have this offer about guys writing to you to remove posted pictures, but does it reduce the damage? You have within hours tenfolded the circulation, and for my friend to write to you to remove the pictures, under your conditions, is a huge humiliation. For a few moments of glory, you wrecked my friend's life for near a year, push him near suicide. If your online presence being censured is so traumatic to you, consider what pain you have put people through.

[Eujiboo]

I see a lot of people here really dislike the idea of porn blogs , or at least local ones anyway .

 

Not every local blog uploads/reblogs SAFE 'minor' guys , yes we know there are those in uniform or still in secondary school , but not it doesn't mean everyone of us do it . I think if you're just starting out in the Tumblr world , you'd reblog just about anything you fancy and maybe a higher chance of being shut down . However , people like hbst and myself , and the other countless blogs that got shut down , we've been hosting multiple blogs on Tumblr for years , we know the rules , we're not assholes that's out to ruin lives . It's a mutual understanding and rule , we know what to post , we know when to take things down , and we don't post 'private' pictures unless they're submissions , reblogged content or posted elsewhere on another blog . We take down pictures if we're asked to - nicely . And I don't know why but I noticed that the people who are reporting our blogs or even just showing distaste , are the same people that have blogs themselves , that reblog the exact same pictures , that visit the same websites . So don't pretend like you're all great and almighty , you're not any different - and this isn't out to everyone , just a handful .

[Guest Victimsfriend]

I see a lot of people here really dislike the idea of porn blogs , or at least local ones anyway .

 

Not every local blog uploads/reblogs SAFE 'minor' guys , yes we know there are those in uniform or still in secondary school , but not it doesn't mean everyone of us do it . I think if you're just starting out in the Tumblr world , you'd reblog just about anything you fancy and maybe a higher chance of being shut down . However , people like hbst and myself , and the other countless blogs that got shut down , we've been hosting multiple blogs on Tumblr for years , we know the rules , we're not assholes that's out to ruin lives . It's a mutual understanding and rule , we know what to post , we know when to take things down , and we don't post 'private' pictures unless they're submissions , reblogged content or posted elsewhere on another blog . We take down pictures if we're asked to - nicely . And I don't know why but I noticed that the people who are reporting our blogs or even just showing distaste , are the same people that have blogs themselves , that reblog the exact same pictures , that visit the same websites . So don't pretend like you're all great and almighty , you're not any different - and this isn't out to everyone , just a handful .

 

Get off it. High and mighty? You so dead sure that folks like HBST do not post pictures of minors? He only posts pictures submitted to him?

 

FYI, after what he did to my friend, a couple of us monitor these blogs you mentioned to see how wide my friends' pics got circulated. My friend couldn't bear to do it himself. I certainly do not see the kind of claims you mentioned being practiced AT ALL. As for HBST, when he posted a video of a Hong Kong or PRC student having sex, and people advised him to remove it, how did he react? When he subsequently posted links to video clips of spy videos and minors having sex, you think that does not constitute as disseminating kiddie porn? We ourselves worry whether we already infringed the law by not reporting such things.

 

Sorry to be blunt too. But fuck you. Who the hell do you think you are? You posted pictures without permission, and expect to be ASKED NICELY as a condition of removal? (In HBST and some other bloggers' conditions, you have to show PROOF you are who you claim to be) Who awarded you the HIGH AND MIGHTY right to decide whose life to wreck? I think you need to be hauled to court, your name and picture and family spread all over the newspaper, to get a taste of how it feels when your life is pulled out by some stranger to get trashed in public.

 

And by the way, you are the only one imagining it's other bloggers, who do similar things, that are reporting you. Good luck proving that if you ever need to.

[Guest Guest]

I see a lot of people here really dislike the idea of porn blogs , or at least local ones anyway .

 

 

 

not really, alot of ppl love it. some of the guys who gt featured love it too cos its publicity for them. only those gay-in-denial or homophobics shun it.

[Guest Guest]

not really, alot of ppl love it. some of the guys who gt featured love it too cos its publicity for them. only those gay-in-denial or homophobics shun it.

Yup, people who disagree are in denial. For the sake of a few and your masturbation needs, people have to be victimised.

[heartkl]

My tumblr was also terminated with no reason given. 

Edited September 7, 2014 by heartkl

[bluerunner]

My tumblr was also terminated with no reason given.

You have a repost of any if the terminated content is it? I think they will terminate all the link. Like in old China, when Emperor has decided to behead a family, 9 immediate family links will get beheaded.

[sprintkayak]

Get off it. High and mighty? You so dead sure that folks like HBST do not post pictures of minors? He only posts pictures submitted to him?

 

FYI, after what he did to my friend, a couple of us monitor these blogs you mentioned to see how wide my friends' pics got circulated. My friend couldn't bear to do it himself. I certainly do not see the kind of claims you mentioned being practiced AT ALL. As for HBST, when he posted a video of a Hong Kong or PRC student having sex, and people advised him to remove it, how did he react? When he subsequently posted links to video clips of spy videos and minors having sex, you think that does not constitute as disseminating kiddie porn? We ourselves worry whether we already infringed the law by not reporting such things.

 

Sorry to be blunt too. But fuck you. Who the hell do you think you are? You posted pictures without permission, and expect to be ASKED NICELY as a condition of removal? (In HBST and some other bloggers' conditions, you have to show PROOF you are who you claim to be) Who awarded you the HIGH AND MIGHTY right to decide whose life to wreck? I think you need to be hauled to court, your name and picture and family spread all over the newspaper, to get a taste of how it feels when your life is pulled out by some stranger to get trashed in public.

 

And by the way, you are the only one imagining it's other bloggers, who do similar things, that are reporting you. Good luck proving that if you ever need to.

 

I recently spoke to one of the guys who got affected. the one who's ex leaked his video, and i can totally sympathize with him. 

 

I think it is one thing to post pictures that is widely available fro websites and facebook, and totally another, to OUT someone's dirty acts. Especially if he did not intend for it to be publicly viewed. Unless of cos, he does it on a site like CAM4.

 

While there are many who love such sites, for the obvious reason of wanting to enjoy the beauty of local guys without having to spend time stalking, or seeming to be a stalker, I guess we could employ some ethics.

 

something that i would consider unethical is like how one of the guy's personal dirty videos were posted up, and along with it, all his personal information given at the end. it was kinda uncalled for, which could have been avoided.

[Guest Guest]

Hbst, I believe you haven't truly thought about what you're doing. You might still not realize practically everything you do on your blog is illegal and an invitation for endless trouble.

1) It's a hugely bad idea to post images of minors, even if non-explicit on porn sites. There is the matter of by-association, or suggestive content. A clear example would be you don't see school uniformed teens on any commercial porn site, do you?

2) Distributing leaked sexual images is a crime. And you're not just sharing it with friends, you're posting it on a publically accessible site and encouraging the world to download. That adds to it.

3) Posting spy videos is a crime. Because the guys in them are victims. There is no consent. You are adding to the victimization.

4) As a Singaporean, I'm assuming you are, disseminating any form of pornography is a crime.

5) Downloading people's private pictures, hosting them on your site and facilitating sexual discussions i.e. is he gay, I heard he has done this etc etc, is questionable. But all it takes would be a vindictive nut to go all out to get you for slander or malicious intent. You might have kena a case of this before.

I'm sure there would be many guys telling you that everybody is also doing it. It's near impossible to trace. That they are so grateful to you for your service, dun listen to naysayers etc etc. Just consider whether any of these guys would be there to defend you if you're hauled to court. Consider too, or rather investigate, whether ignorance is ever an effective defense. You're expected to know and comply with the law, bottomline.

As for this thing you always talk on your site about not taking explicit pictures if you don't want them circulated, you obviously ignore the fact many guys didn't take the pics themselves. They might have been conned too, or spied on.

Lastly, consider the harm you did to some guys. You posted pictures of my friend, pictures leaked by my friend's ex. No doubt you have this offer about guys writing to you to remove posted pictures, but does it reduce the damage? You have within hours tenfolded the circulation, and for my friend to write to you to remove the pictures, under your conditions, is a huge humiliation. For a few moments of glory, you wrecked my friend's life for near a year, push him near suicide. If your online presence being censured is so traumatic to you, consider what pain you have put people through.

Is your friend gay?

It was your friend's gf/bf fault yo have leaked the pics in the first place

[Tachyons]

On the topic of Tumblr blogs, do you guys know of a blog which features your day to day super average guy next door who isnt all 6 pack muscled ripped? I would like to follow it. Thanks. 

[Guest Victimsfriend]

Is your friend gay?

It was your friend's gf/bf fault yo have leaked the pics in the first place

 

My friend's ex is the main scum.

 

But that mean the tumblr bloggers who gleefully circulated aren't at fault too? You know, we tried to get some of them to pull down the post. One owner took forever and when we pressed, he told us off in tumblr, saying things like it is unreasonable and rude for us to expect him to action right away. Meanwhile, the post gets reblogged and reblogged and reblogged.

 

It's kind of like, someone broke into a store. You walk past. And so you are faultless for joining in the looting. You decide whether you want that to happen to you.

[Guest Victimsfriend]

I recently spoke to one of the guys who got affected. the one who's ex leaked his video, and i can totally sympathize with him. 

 

I think it is one thing to post pictures that is widely available fro websites and facebook, and totally another, to OUT someone's dirty acts. Especially if he did not intend for it to be publicly viewed. Unless of cos, he does it on a site like CAM4.

 

While there are many who love such sites, for the obvious reason of wanting to enjoy the beauty of local guys without having to spend time stalking, or seeming to be a stalker, I guess we could employ some ethics.

 

something that i would consider unethical is like how one of the guy's personal dirty videos were posted up, and along with it, all his personal information given at the end. it was kinda uncalled for, which could have been avoided.

Thank you very much. I'm glad there are still people capable of empathy. Instead of just spinning excuses to justify their own crimes.

[Guest Guest]

My friend's ex is the main scum.

 

But that mean the tumblr bloggers who gleefully circulated aren't at fault too? You know, we tried to get some of them to pull down the post. One owner took forever and when we pressed, he told us off in tumblr, saying things like it is unreasonable and rude for us to expect him to action right away. Meanwhile, the post gets reblogged and reblogged and reblogged.

 

It's kind of like, someone broke into a store. You walk past. And so you are faultless for joining in the looting. You decide whether you want that to happen to you.

 

is he gay the guy who got his pics posted up?

If he is straight things would have been much worst..

how old is he? what does he do?

If your fren is young and starting out in the society things would have been much worst

[Guest Victimsfriend]

is he gay the guy who got his pics posted up?

If he is straight things would have been much worst..

how old is he? what does he do?

If your fren is young and starting out in the society things would have been much worst

 

He is gay. From a family who would never accept this. The worst part however is that the pictures weren't exactly taken with his knowledge.

 

He is working, adult age. That's all I am going to reveal. And I disagree with you. If he were younger, it might have been easier to dismiss it as a moment of youthful foolishness. Not when you're an adult and working.

[Guest Guest]

Thats why think twice before taking pics of urself nude or taking video of urself having sex with someone. Its ok if u dun mind the whole world to see next time but many times a moment of fun and lust becomes regret later.

[Guest Victimsfriend]

Thats why think twice before taking pics of urself nude or taking video of urself having sex with someone. Its ok if u dun mind the whole world to see next time but many times a moment of fun and lust becomes regret later.

 

My friend didn't know. It was taken by his ex.

[Guest Guest]

He is gay. From a family who would never accept this. The worst part however is that the pictures weren't exactly taken with his knowledge.

 

He is working, adult age. That's all I am going to reveal. And I disagree with you. If he were younger, it might have been easier to dismiss it as a moment of youthful foolishness. Not when you're an adult and working.

 

My friend didn't know. It was taken by his ex.

 

how did your fren know that his pics were taken?

so his family and frens plus colleagues all know about the video and he is erm gay?

aiyo... then not his fault liao... 

why did the ex do that posting his pics online? such a poisonous guy..

[Guest Guest]

My friend didn't know. It was taken by his ex.

 

is your fren handsome?

[Eujiboo]

I recently spoke to one of the guys who got affected. the one who's ex leaked his video, and i can totally sympathize with him. 

 

I think it is one thing to post pictures that is widely available fro websites and facebook, and totally another, to OUT someone's dirty acts. Especially if he did not intend for it to be publicly viewed. Unless of cos, he does it on a site like CAM4.

 

While there are many who love such sites, for the obvious reason of wanting to enjoy the beauty of local guys without having to spend time stalking, or seeming to be a stalker, I guess we could employ some ethics.

 

something that i would consider unethical is like how one of the guy's personal dirty videos were posted up, and along with it, all his personal information given at the end. it was kinda uncalled for, which could have been avoided.

Of course , if it were taken without their permission (like a spy video) or if it were intended for one person and that person leaked it out , those we don't post at all . Normally pictures like that it'd mostly be a reblog and when people tell us to remove them from our blog , we can do so , but we do also tell them to find the person who posted it because we taking it down will not change the fact that it's still circulating .

 

The pictures that we do have on our blogs are either submissions or from other blogs , never those that we known are intended to be personal .

 

 

Get off it. High and mighty? You so dead sure that folks like HBST do not post pictures of minors? He only posts pictures submitted to him?

 

FYI, after what he did to my friend, a couple of us monitor these blogs you mentioned to see how wide my friends' pics got circulated. My friend couldn't bear to do it himself. I certainly do not see the kind of claims you mentioned being practiced AT ALL. As for HBST, when he posted a video of a Hong Kong or PRC student having sex, and people advised him to remove it, how did he react? When he subsequently posted links to video clips of spy videos and minors having sex, you think that does not constitute as disseminating kiddie porn? We ourselves worry whether we already infringed the law by not reporting such things.

 

Sorry to be blunt too. But fuck you. Who the hell do you think you are? You posted pictures without permission, and expect to be ASKED NICELY as a condition of removal? (In HBST and some other bloggers' conditions, you have to show PROOF you are who you claim to be) Who awarded you the HIGH AND MIGHTY right to decide whose life to wreck? I think you need to be hauled to court, your name and picture and family spread all over the newspaper, to get a taste of how it feels when your life is pulled out by some stranger to get trashed in public.

 

And by the way, you are the only one imagining it's other bloggers, who do similar things, that are reporting you. Good luck proving that if you ever need to.

Funny . Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't fuck strangers with no profiles . If you read it properly , I said it wasn't to generalize all the bloggers , or anyone viewing the blogs .

When HBST posted the video of the HK student having sex , were their ages specified , or was it an underage act , how are you so sure that is kiddie porn ? I can't answer those cause I didn't see that video . I think most of the blogs know that whatever picture or video on our blog is already circulating around and we're just reblogging it further . I remember him saying that if someone wanted something removed , just report that specific post to Tumblr and it will be taken down , so I don't see the issue .

If you do the deed and you purposely made it public , no it wasn't intended to be personal , no it wasn't taken without knowledge , YOU uploaded it yourself , YOU made it public , YOU enjoyed the attention , then suddenly when you see your pictures on tumblr , you make it sound like you're a victim . Hah . As I said above , if it was supposed to be personal or taken without knowledge , we'd take it down immediately .

Also your last sentence just didn't make sense .

 

 

is your fren handsome?

What ? Are you serious ?

[Guest Victimsfriend]

Of course , if it were taken without their permission (like a spy video) or if it were intended for one person and that person leaked it out , those we don't post at all . Normally pictures like that it'd mostly be a reblog and when people tell us to remove them from our blog , we can do so , but we do also tell them to find the person who posted it because we taking it down will not change the fact that it's still circulating .

 

The pictures that we do have on our blogs are either submissions or from other blogs , never those that we known are intended to be personal .

 

 

Funny . Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't fuck strangers with no profiles . If you read it properly , I said it wasn't to generalize all the bloggers , or anyone viewing the blogs .

When HBST posted the video of the HK student having sex , were their ages specified , or was it an underage act , how are you so sure that is kiddie porn ? I can't answer those cause I didn't see that video . I think most of the blogs know that whatever picture or video on our blog is already circulating around and we're just reblogging it further . I remember him saying that if someone wanted something removed , just report that specific post to Tumblr and it will be taken down , so I don't see the issue .

If you do the deed and you purposely made it public , no it wasn't intended to be personal , no it wasn't taken without knowledge , YOU uploaded it yourself , YOU made it public , YOU enjoyed the attention , then suddenly when you see your pictures on tumblr , you make it sound like you're a victim . Hah . As I said above , if it was supposed to be personal or taken without knowledge , we'd take it down immediately .

Also your last sentence just didn't make sense .

 

 

What ? Are you serious ?

 

You see, you can deny all your want. Try to throw the onus back to the victims in the pictures. Keep imagining that people want their pictures and videos to be made public, that they are the foolish ones etc etc. Try to continue painting yourself as the actual victim and in typical blogger fashion, bitch by picking and twisting words.

 

But what you have done is already on record. You aggressively defending yourself here places you further on record. You, and people like HBST, know very well how true your claims are. Whether you were as careful as you claim. Whether you are that quick and willing to remove posts. Whether it was not immediately obvious the ages of those minors you posted. Whether HBST posted numerous spy videos, illegal videos. Etc. You know everything, clearly, And you know finally whether just reblogging something from somewhere exonerates you of the guilt.

 

This will catch up with you. Actually, the sudden crackdown of particular sites, not everything, is already proof of that.

 

Good luck.

[rawbird]

Hmmm, I shld be feeling lucky that mine is still around... kinda sad to see the termination

[Guest Victimsfriend]

Of course , if it were taken without their permission (like a spy video) or if it were intended for one person and that person leaked it out , those we don't post at all . Normally pictures like that it'd mostly be a reblog and when people tell us to remove them from our blog , we can do so , but we do also tell them to find the person who posted it because we taking it down will not change the fact that it's still circulating .

 

The pictures that we do have on our blogs are either submissions or from other blogs , never those that we known are intended to be personal .

 

Just some info for those who might be inclined to believe this.

 

Eujiboo makes it sounds so professional and responsible. Is it?

 

What about HOW SOON it is removed? 24 hours? 48 hours? Till the blogger comes back from overseas? Meanwhile your pictures and videos, taken with or without your knowledge, continue to be reblogged. Each reblogging is an opportunity for more reblogging. What do they call it? Exponential increase. I'm sure those of you familiar with HBST will remember how many times he berated people for demanding he removes something immediately, claiming work, commitment and all that, when in the first place he is the one doing something illegal.

 

What about their WILLINGNESS? The conditions for removal. That you ask NICELY, as Eujiboo still demands. That they continue to act godlike when you are freaking out, you think this removal process will be that straightforward?

 

What about  REPOSTING? I'm quite sure I don't need to mention the times some bloggers choose to repost the removed images? Claiming they feel the world has a right to see? Their (common) insistence that people wanna their pics exposed even though they deny it? Etc. Very vile belief by the way, don't you think so? Even if you were the one who took the picture in the first place, what gives them the right to circulate them? Do they own your pictures just because they own a tumblr? Do they have a right to decide how you should use your property?

 

And of course. They DIIDN'T KNOW. They were just REBLOGGING. Well I think we are all sensible adults. (No minors!) So deep down I believe all of us know whether ignorance cleanses the crime off you. Especially when it's just claimed ignorance.

 

But the real hard fact is this. To those of you who love these blogs. I was one of you guys too previously. You think you're safe. Because you don't take such pictures, not even by yourself, you think you will always be the one to enjoy them? Really? Are you so sure you are always that aware of your surroundings? Of who you're sleeping with? Remember too these bloggers scour FBs etc, steal pictures, and repost them. In the process encouraging all sorts of explicit discussions and rumours. Unless you have no online presence, it will be your turn someday. And nope. Being fugly wouldn't save you. They will just ridicule you for more reblogs.

[mate69]

Enough of your rantings victimsfriend. We get yr point. Move on.

[Guest Victimsfriend]

Enough of your rantings victimsfriend. We get yr point. Move on.

 

Oh I left it alone. But some gods still wanna debate.

[Guest Victimsfriend]

I'm sorry. What I'm truly aiming for is a reply from the great and mighty and ever suffering HBST. I like to see what he has to say about all these, and whether he is that scum enough to still continue denying.

 

The lost posts are irritating, I know. But blame it on folks like Eujiboo who either has no clear idea what HBST does or is in cahoots with him. I'm sorry if I annoyed you, Male69. Hope you never end up in these siutations.

[hbst]

Hi guys… I was away from home for the whole day yesterday. For those of you standing on my side, thank you very much for your support. For those of you who criticised me, thank you too for your feedback… I really learned a lot from it.

 

As for those who hate me to the core and keep slamming me, I have already apologise twice.

 

On one hand, I'm really sorry for any distress caused to these guys. 

 

If I offend you in any way, I apologise. If you dislike me, what I can say is that I got my deserved outcome - my blog was terminated. Hope this makes you feel better.

 

If you refuse to take my apology, I'm fine with it. But before you slam me again, I got something to say.

 

Nobody is born knowing all the rules at the start. When I first started my blog, I was a horny, curious and ignorant guy. Before that, I was extremely discreet, had no experience of meeting people, and had no idea what the gay scene is like in SG. Like an animal starved for many days and suddenly exposed to a huge pile of food, I was extremely fascinated by the colourful world of gay Tumblr blogs when I discovered the blogs in 2012. At that time, I have very few pics or videos of Singaporeans (I had a small collection of Japanese & American vids but I was getting bored of them), so I was very excited when I see SG stuffs on these gay SG blogs. One day, iheartsgboys (one of the bloggers) posted the video screenshots of a sec school waterpolo boy. I emailed iheartsgboys and he gave me the video without any condition. I was overjoyed. This video was the first "exclusive" SG video I got. (My definition of "exclusive" is: not found anywhere else on the internet.) I wanted to share the joy with other people, so I started a new blog named HBST, in Oct 2012. My first post was the reblog of the waterpolo boy screenshots from iheartsgboys.

 

I know some of you must be very disgusted when you read this. Yes, the waterpolo boy is below 18yo when the vid was taken. (The boy is above 18 now.) The boy was wearing his school singlet in the video. His full name was even shown on iheartsgboys' post. But at the time, as a total newbie, I had no idea of the rules and the ethics (or the lack of it). I didn't even know it was illegal. I only knew my mind was overrun with excitement and I reblogged the post simply because the video was my first exclusive SG video and I wanted to share the joy with others. (Don't forget that I was discreet before that and I had never contacted anyone in the gay community. Tumblr was the first "window" I used to connect with the gay world.)

 

Later, a 18yo follower of my new blog contacted me. He asked me for the waterpolo boy video, and he sent me his dick pic in return. I was thrilled. This was the first time someone showed me his dick willingly, and this guy was a 18yo NSF!!! From this, I realised the importance of having exclusive vids. Exclusive vids give people a lot of power. Applying this on Tumblr blogs, exclusive contents give bloggers a lot of power and make them very popular among discreet, horny and curious viewers. I didn't have exclusive stuffs to share when I first began my blog. I mostly reblogged contents from other blogs. Slowly, via my blog, I got to know more fellow bloggers and followers, and we started to trade contents via email. In the early phase of my blog, I was ignorant of the rules, so I just shared whatever stuffs I like without thinking about the consequences or the privacy of the exposed guys.

 

So you can imagine my shock when the waterpolo boy's mother contacted me a few weeks later. She threatened to take legal action against me and she demanded me to remove all contents associated with the waterpolo boy. I quickly complied. A few days later, iheartsgboy's blog was shut down. For 2 weeks, I was worried that someone would take action against me. Later, when I realised nothing was happening, I returned to my reckless blogging again. My curiosity about the gay world and my horniness suppressed my logical thinking. I continued looking for exclusive contents and sharing them on my blog. Soon, my blog became very popular, because I dared to share exclusive contents. I knew what my followers want, because I used to be one of them, hunting for good porn online but unable to find any. I knew the frustration of not being able to find good porn, and I wanted to help them. All along I had the intention of helping people. I was not aware that I was actually hurting some people in the process.

 

I finally realised the seriousness of the whole issue in April 2013, when one guy claimed that he made a police report and he was working with the Singapore police to track me down via my IP address. I was horrified. For the next 1 month, I was living in constant fear, worrying that the police would come knocking on my door. I jumped up every time I heard a knocking sound. I couldn't sleep and eat well. I stopped using Tumblr and my email, and I used an anonymous proxy to surf the net. To make things worse, I had school to attend, so I had to pretend that life was normal and I couldn't show any trace of anxiety to my family and friends. 1 month later, other bloggers told me that the police claim was likely to be a hoax, and my life slowly returned to normal.

 

Despite the stress I went through from this incident, I returned to blogging, because I believed that blogging is the way to help horny desperate guys. To be on the safe side, I added the disclaimer to my blog: "If you see your private pics/vids on my blog and you wish to remove them, please contact me or report to Tumblr." I became more careful. I no longer mention the names or contact details of any guys. I shared less SG contents, and more non-SG contents. Later, I even stopped sharing SG contents, unless the contents had been posted before on other websites/blogs, or the contents were submitted by my followers.

 

I'm actually against showing the guy's name or contact details on Tumblr blogs. I always tell my followers to be responsible viewers - just enjoy what you see and don't disturb/harass the guys. (In summary, watch, wank, forget, move on.) In fact, I feel guilty when a SG guy gets exposed, as SG is so small and a scandal can spread extremely fast within SG. After all, my aim of blogging is just to help my viewers satisfy their sexual fantasies... not to victimise or harm the guy in the private pics/vids. I'm already very grateful to the guy in the pics/vids for satisfying our fantasies, why would I want anything bad to happen to him? Sometimes, I wish I can say this to each of the guys who had been hurt as a result of being exposed on my blog: "I'm sorry for causing you so much pain. Think of it as you're helping a lot of people. You sacrifice yourself to make many people happy. We are all very grateful to you. Once again, very sorry for all the pain that you have gone through." This sound silly to some of you, but this is really from the bottom of my heart.

 

I used to be insensitive and pay little attention to the violation of other people's privacy. I was once the scum that Victimsfriend is talking about. But that was the past. Gradually, over the months, I have learned to be more sensitive, more respectful of other people's privacy, and more aware of the rules and ethics of sharing stuffs online. I admit I did not do enough, and I still make mistakes, as I can see from my blog's termination. At least, I learn a lot from my blog's termination and this discussion here, and I realise that Singaporeans take the issue of privacy very seriously. I will keep this in mind if I start a new blog (that is provided that I still have the time and energy to do so.)

 

As for the verification of your identity before removing your private stuffs, this is actually the official procedure taken by Tumblr if you make a violation report to Tumblr. Just like how Victimsfriend's friend was victimised on Tumblr, I was once sabotaged by a non-SG blogger when he posted the screenshots of a private video after he traded videos with me. I asked the non-SG blogger to remove the post, but not only he refused, he also gave me a big scolding and even blocked me on Skype. So I decided to make a violation report to Tumblr. As I was not the guy in the private video, Tumblr said that they will only accept the violation report from the guy himself. I had no choice but to ask the guy in the video to report to Tumblr directly. Even so, Tumblr requested the guy in the video to verify his identity by taking a photo holding a piece of paper saying "Tumblr it's me" or attaching a scanned copy of a government photo ID. The whole process from the start of the report to the removal of the post took more than 2 days.

 

Most Tumblr bloggers encourage you to inform them first when you see your private stuffs on their blogs. Very few bloggers will tell you to report to Tumblr directly, because an accumulation of violation reports can cause termination of the blog account. (If someone files a child porn report, the blog can be terminated immediately without warning.) I'm one of the few bloggers who gives you 2 choices - inform me, or report to Tumblr directly. I know I cannot stand by my blog 24 hours. I may be busy with work or travelling overseas. That's why I let you make a report to Tumblr directly if you cannot wait for me. 

 

If you still think I'm a scum, then you probably haven't met worse bloggers. There are bloggers who actually enjoys exposing scandals with full names and contact details of the guys. There are bloggers who refuse to cooperate at all when you ask them to remove something. There are bloggers who persistently share under-aged porn. Thankfully, you don't see such bloggers often in Tumblr, because the life-span of their blogs are often very short. They attract attention quickly, offend people quickly, kena reported quickly, and then shut down. The fact that my blog lasted quite long (1 year 8 months for my 1st blog, 2 months for my 2nd blog) means that I still have some conscience left… If I'm really the scum that Victimsfriend described, my blog would have disappeared long ago.

 

Hopefully, the mass termination this time will lead to a better and more responsible community on Tumblr. If any blogger from the terminated blogs wishes to start a new blog, please take note of the things discussed here.

[Guest Victimsfriend]

Whether or not there are worse bloggers, whatever these other bloggers do, are irrelevant. Your whole neighbourhood butchering each other doesn't mean you are entitled to join in, legally or ethically speaking. If you have no idea how to handle something that can ruin a person's life and his family, don't do it. No one forced you to.

 

The entire point is after all the damage you have inflicted on others, you continue to paint yourself as the victim. Spinning excuses after excuses. Telling people how much you have suffered, how you have been stressed, how you have been intimidated.

 

And for that, your apologies, if any at all, are meaningless.

 

Your blog lasted long because the bulk of victims either did not know how to approach Tumblr to remove your site, or like my friend, they dread taking legal action, for fear of further mockery. And you are also not Tumblr itself. When someone asks you to remove a video, why do you have to verify identity? In the first place, do you have the right to broadcast people's privacy?

 

Obviously, you still see yourself as some sort of savior. No doubt you would also have some defense against those child porn links you posted. (Seng Kang?) We await eagerly to see your face on the newspapers.

[hbst]

You can continue to scold me, if this makes you feel better. You must be holding your anger for a long time but had no chance to do it when my blog was still around, because I was supported by a big group of loyal followers. With them "protecting" me, I kept thinking that what I do is right.

 

Now, with my blog terminated and my group of followers scattered away, you finally have the chance to vent your anger on me. I see it as a learning opportunity for me, which is a positive thing. At least I get to know the damages I have done, and I realise what I have been doing is not right.

 

I have the courage to own up to my mistakes, and I apologise for it. I accept your criticism and I reflect on it. You probably won't find other bloggers who have this courage.

 

At the end of the day, I just wish that you and your friend can move on. I have admitted my mistakes. You have done your scolding. There's no point standing at the same spot anymore.

 

I'm an honest person. Whatever I say is the truth. If you see them as excuses, then I have nothing to say.

[Guest Victimsfriend]

You can continue to scold me, if this makes you feel better. You must be holding your anger for a long time but had no chance to do it when my blog was still around, because I was supported by a big group of loyal followers. With them "protecting" me, I kept thinking that what I do is right.

 

Now, with my blog terminated and my group of followers scattered away, you finally have the chance to vent your anger on me. I see it as a learning opportunity for me, which is a positive thing. At least I get to know the damages I have done, and I realise what I have been doing is not right.

 

I have the courage to own up to my mistakes, and I apologise for it. I accept your criticism and I reflect on it. You probably won't find other bloggers who have this courage.

 

At the end of the day, I just wish that you and your friend can move on. I have admitted my mistakes. You have done your scolding. There's no point standing at the same spot anymore.

 

I'm an honest person. Whatever I say is the truth. If you see them as excuses, then I have nothing to say.

 

At the risk of being painted as petty by you, whether we move on or not is not for you to comment.

 

For the rest of their lives, your victims will live in the constant shadow that their most shameful is out there in proof. Whatever they do, in their jobs and lives, this haunts them forever. Whoever wants to ridicule this truth, come and sample it first before saying anything.

 

For you though, nothing more than "a learning experience." Yet another example to demonstrate how great you are because "other bloggers wouldn't do this."

 

But you remain the one who began this. And you are daydreaming if you think you will get away that easily.