alien Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 i stayed there lor. nothing happen leh. my bf went meeting and i alone in hotel also nothing.i also took pict of the tailsman. its actually a yellow background big frame w red scribbling like tailsman.its Taipei Grand Hyatt.I took and posted in tripadvisor:Tis hotel very famous cos of the big tailsman at the lobby. Wonder the tailsman really mean the hotel is haunted?Actually always heard pple encountered "dirty" hotel when go holidays. Luckily so far my luck still not bad, didnt see any! But i find thailand hotel sometimes a bit "scary"! Quote 对自己好是一种幸福， 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvintantan Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I guess people have this impression because of the association of Thailand with Black Magic. We have to be fair to the Thai, it's not just Thailand. In my opinion, overcoming the "ghost" in yourself is more important than anything. Try knocking on the door of your hotel room before entering and to leave the lights on would be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousboy Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I guess people have this impression because of the association of Thailand with Black Magic. We have to be fair to the Thai, it's not just Thailand. In my opinion, overcoming the "ghost" in yourself is more important than anything. Try knocking on the door of your hotel room before entering and to leave the lights on would be useful. Yeah. Like what my grandma will do is that she will knock on the hotel room door and say things like "借住几晚，谢谢!" etc stuffs. Quote In the end, we only regret the chances we didn't take.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo guy Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 My experienced is at bukit bintang (can't recall, it's small hotel in main road) , first world at genting (this is the worst) and also the grand hotel in Ho chi Minh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the woman in black Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Yeah. Like what my grandma will do is that she will knock on the hotel room door and say things like "借住几晚，谢谢!" etc stuffs. Suddenly, you hear a shadow replying to you: 请进, 请进, 有人来陪我了.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 the stretch of Serangoon Park Connector from behind Rio Vista to the flyover is also haunted. Agreed.. seriously i think that stretch if kinda creepy when night falls . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_dust Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I don't know if anyone died there but I'm absolutely sure it's not clean. A friend's alsatian dog refused to go there at night even when dragged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Guess, like most place, when the yin is stronger than the yang, it tends to be more creepy..especially when last time, it was a covered areas before they do the connector..than again, those might still linger around as there's still thick vegetation and water around too.Can't imagine, how some AJs can meet and do things there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 why last time pulau tekong old camps must be built deep inside....so scary right?if tekong is not used for camp, i believe airport can be built there better.Pulau tekong like some sort of 'holy land, heard got Datuk buried.over at camp 3, at abt 3 to 4am one nite, heard marching noise on the parade square.U know 2359 lights off and got to wake up at 5 to 5.30am for morning run hardly got any sleep.All slept like pigs. So to wake me up it's pretty loud and unusual.Those marching sound definitely not of this world, sounded like echoes from the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Taka used to be a chinese cementery. That's why biz very good. Friend saw shaows on 5th flr (last time carpark) toilet.My medium friend saw lots of good brothers shopping there(must be B1 & B2 where they used to be buried) during 7th mth.One famous gym also haunted.Overseas: Bangkok most hotels haunted. Tazi driver told me one hotel near 4-faced Buddha haunted. Chiang Mai, also. Used to be a mass grave during the 14th century? Paris near the Lourve, one small hotel haunted, baby ghost YMCA, SF also haunted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yeah. Like what my grandma will do is that she will knock on the hotel room door and say things like "借住几晚，谢谢!" etc stuffs.Yes. I even introduce myself, where I m from, chk in tdy, chk out when. Then I go out and buy flowers to put in my room. In thailand, the jasmine bouquet.Before i chk out, i thank them. But dun say 'see you again' hor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousboy Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yes. I even introduce myself, where I m from, chk in tdy, chk out when. Then I go out and buy flowers to put in my room. In thailand, the jasmine bouquet. Before i chk out, i thank them. But dun say 'see you again' hor. Hahaha I never say so much uhh. Just say like live for a while etc sorry if offended stuffs. Haha! Quote In the end, we only regret the chances we didn't take.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Taka used to be a chinese cementery. That's why biz very good. Friend saw shaows on 5th flr (last time carpark) toilet. My medium friend saw lots of good brothers shopping there(must be B1 & B2 where they used to be buried) during 7th mth. One famous gym also haunted. This is true. That's why once every ? year(s), they will build tents in the court in front and invite taoist priests to chant for a couple of days. Of course, they will only mention the prayer is for world peace and happiness of all people. This year, they have the Jade Buddha ceremony.Just imagine Bishan, it was also a chinese cemetery. But, now HDBs, Condos, J8, R.I. are all there. Wonder if any R.I. students see any? or, the good brothers shy away as they dunno how to communicate with these elite students. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 To the above guest,Ghosts cannot tahan RI boys lah, too smart for themPunggol also. Friend kenna. Went to medium. Met another couple. Also from Bishan.Ghosts do teleportation, also not restricted to one house or location.But cannot travel across water. Must take aeroplane, like us.Got CheeKoGhost, molest & rape. If u kenna, pls report to black & white unkers. They are the law enforcer.Ching Ming, 4th April lots of friendly ghosts.7th Month - Mixed Crowd9th Month - lots of natural catastrophesGhosts dun speak - telepathy, like inside you talking. Brapantybtm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Correction - Friend kenna, Met couple also from Punggol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Taka used to be a chinese cementery. That's why biz very good. Friend saw shaows on 5th flr (last time carpark) toilet.My medium friend saw lots of good brothers shopping there(must be B1 & B2 where they used to be buried) during 7th mth.One famous gym also haunted.Overseas: Bangkok most hotels haunted. Tazi driver told me one hotel near 4-faced Buddha haunted. Chiang Mai, also. Used to be a mass grave during the 14th century? Paris near the Lourve, one small hotel haunted, baby ghost YMCA, SF also haunted.Which YMCA u toking abt?Gym also haunted? How so? Quote 对自己好是一种幸福， 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Agreed.. seriously i think that stretch if kinda creepy when night falls .So only creepy when night falls lah. I find some of the park connector, when at night also quite creepy. Quote 对自己好是一种幸福， 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 My experienced is at bukit bintang (can't recall, it's small hotel in main road) , first world at genting (this is the worst) and also the grand hotel in Ho chi MinhAlways heard first world hotel at genting very dirty?! But i stayed there twice, heng nothing happened! Quote 对自己好是一种幸福， 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I guess people have this impression because of the association of Thailand with Black Magic. We have to be fair to the Thai, it's not just Thailand. In my opinion, overcoming the "ghost" in yourself is more important than anything. Try knocking on the door of your hotel room before entering and to leave the lights on would be useful.Whether got ghost or not, i will never leave any lights on when i sleep. Quote 对自己好是一种幸福， 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiBear Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Whether got ghost or not, i will never leave any lights on when i sleep. eeeeee, so brave :Xi cnt slp if too dark T_TBtw, i knew tat thai got alot haunted hotels. Scaryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacque Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Omg this is so freaky lol. All the horror films shot in hotels make everything worse. You have ghost creeping underneath your bed, crawling out from the ventilation chute, behind your closet, from your mirror... ALL SORTS OF CRAZY STUFF. Quote Instagram: vodkabaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovehandle Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Whether got ghost or not, i will never leave any lights on when i sleep. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, timid loh...i will laugh at people like this....i will secretly off the lights if my friends are timid......Kekekekeis it true that rooms with a bible or such books are usually haunted????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haunty Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 In fact, Taipei Hyatt was voted the top 10 haunted hotel in the world: http://economictimes...cs/10602256.cms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta_Lilies Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 been staying at first world hotel for several times already.. alone.. have been goin there about twice/thrice a year along to 'relax' at the casinos.. haha.. so far, nothing happened.. i switched on some lights near the toilet and switch on the television when i sleep.. It helps.. Once I was there alone, got a room where there are chinese characters painted on the wall in front of my bed.. at first i didnt notice them because the characters were actually painted over but still slightly visible.. creeped the hell outta me.. but nothing happened.. will be goin again this June alone.. if anyone wanna tag along bibrief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haunty Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Langham London must be voted the top: http://www.moonslipp...ted-Hotels.html. Didn't know our Raffles Hotel made it to the list too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keagan29 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) actually my colleague's tour group stayed at Grand Hyatt recently. one elderly couple woke up in the middle of the night to see one 'guy' and one 'lady' just standing at the feet of the bed looking down at them.....they just cover their heads with the blanket and sleep. My colleague did not experience anything except she could hear noise like as if the room immediately on top of hers having renovation in the middle of the night.... Edited March 21, 2012 by keagan29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I personally experienced something really bad in Grand Hyatt Taipei,,, it was one of my scariest experience after travelling around the world for so many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yes. I even introduce myself, where I m from, chk in tdy, chk out when. Then I go out and buy flowers to put in my room. In thailand, the jasmine bouquet. Before i chk out, i thank them. But dun say 'see you again' hor. Ha..ha..ha.. i like the way you say don say see you again hor... meets my day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I personally experienced something really bad in Grand Hyatt Taipei,,, it was one of my scariest experience after travelling around the world for so many years If your experience is about seeing something in your room and not been able to move your body then i would have to say its call paralyse dream where your right brain is still awake and your left brain is alseep due to tired and stress.. lor.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Top Ghost Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 been staying at first world hotel for several times already.. alone.. have been goin there about twice/thrice a year along to 'relax' at the casinos.. haha.. so far, nothing happened..s.. Once I was there alone, got a room where there are chinese characters painted on the wall in front of my bed.. at first i didnt notice them because the characters were actually painted over but still slightly visible.. creeped the hell outta me.. but nothing happened.. will be goin again this June alone.. if anyone wanna tag along I want to tag along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 been staying at first world hotel for several times already.. alone.. have been goin there about twice/thrice a year along to 'relax' at the casinos.. haha.. so far, nothing happened.. i switched on some lights near the toilet and switch on the television when i sleep.. It helps.. Once I was there alone, got a room where there are chinese characters painted on the wall in front of my bed.. at first i didnt notice them because the characters were actually painted over but still slightly visible.. creeped the hell outta me.. but nothing happened.. will be goin again this June alone.. if anyone wanna tag along Wow.. i am interested to go on June too.. hope to be an experience in the hotel and since your nick here has something to do with vodka i think you drink and so am i.. i love to drink too.. what say you.. pm me i would be happy to join you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Always heard first world hotel at genting very dirty?! But i stayed there twice, heng nothing happened!First World hotel certain floors restricted to non-chinese guest only, no problem. If chinese guest stay there, big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 If your experience is about seeing something in your room and not been able to move your body then i would have to say its call paralyse dream where your right brain is still awake and your left brain is alseep due to tired and stress.. lor..what about seeing something when u r awake and not sleeping?? and feel something pressing hard on the side of ur pillow when u were lying on ur bed watching TV? is that paralyse dream too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I used to jog around 12mn and 5 am along the Simpang Kiri park connector next to Yishun Industrial Park. Many time I am the only person panting along the 2.8 km track.Then my friend told me that there were numerous reported sighting. So I decided not to push my luck and move my activity around the perimeter of Safra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo guy Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Always heard first world hotel at genting very dirty?! But i stayed there twice, heng nothing happened!I get my room/check in around 6am, was alone while 2 of my friends was next roomWhen I walk into the room" I can feel something different , but because I was so tired so I don't care so muchI take off all my cloth , left my underwear only, because I heard ghost scare of seeing naked people Just lay on the bed" some one knock my door" I went to open and thought my friend nock me, but intact no body outside the doorThen I went back to sleep" was laying on the bed, just sleep few minute, the phone was rang, and the voice of Indian lady on the phone was asking if I want English news paper or Malay news paper, which there is no such as services for my roomAfter I answer English, I continue to sleep again, cos I was so sleepyAnd half way onmy sleep " I can see the wall of my bedroom has changed to be a big houses which lots of old man n women in side, included kids as well.I was jump and wake up, I can't take it anymore, I bring my luggage n went to check in counter to ask other roomThey immediately gave to me other new room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lobby manager Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 To cosmo guy, your ghost provides so good room service. why dun you order your in-room dinning and body massage from the indian lady on the phone. lovehandle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Indy Jones Junior Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Just imagine Bishan, it was also a chinese cemetery. But, now HDBs, Condos, J8, R.I. are all there. Wonder if any R.I. students see any? or, the good brothers shy away as they dunno how to communicate with these elite students. LOL Imagine how big is the former Bishan cemetery used to be -- > 100,000 graves over 1.55 sq m of landIt was established in 1870 by immigrants who largely came from the three prefectures of Kwong Fu, Wai Chow Fu and Siew Heng Fu in Guangdong Province, China. The full name of this burial ground is called Kwong Wai Siew Peck San Theng. This is because the burial ground was intended to cater solely to the Cantonese community in the early days.Within a century, Peck San Theng became one of the biggest Chinese cemeteries in Singapore, holding more than 100,000 graves grouped under 10 pavilions over 324 acres of land.In 1979, the Singapore government decided to acquire all its land to create a new town. All the existing graves were exhumed and the remains cremated during the 1980s. The new town was named Bishan, which is the same as Peck San except the former is in Hanyu Pinyin and the latter is in Cantonese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest World Citizen Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Know a Malaysian lady once and she told me her ghostly encounter !She was visiting her brother who had a shoe factory in M'sia to stay for a week !On her second night, she was asked if she wanted to join some factory workers to see a movie - said she was tired and went to sleep !During her sleep she dreamed that a good friend wanted to introduce someone she knows and so pick her up and went to meet this ' lady ' !They drove for quite a distance, and suddenly, reached their destination which is a cemetery ! She wanted to leave, however, her friend said the' lady ' friend was just in front ! True enough, she saw a tall lady in a green dress just beside a tombstone with a very white complexion !Just then she wanted to leave and got out of the car ! However, this ' lady ' rose in mid air and followed her !Mind you, this is all a dream or a night mare !At this time, she woke up and just above her is this same ' lady ' at the cemetery hanging on a fan in the ceiling turning and turning around !At this point she screamed and fainted !When she woke up she was in hospital -Later found out this ' lady ' a worker had hanged herself using the ceiling fan to tie a rope just 2 weeks earlier !She never really recover for a few months - and now after 5 years she has recurring nightmares !To think that your nightmare is still there when you wake up is the most horrible experience ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_dust Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Anyone here knows about the SPI (Singapore Paranormal Investigators, www.spi.com.sg)?I was a member for several years but have never joined any of their activities.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacque Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I was a member for several years but have never joined any of their activities..They have this annual Halloween ghostly trail thing, let's go together Quote Instagram: vodkabaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Which YMCA u toking abt?Gym also haunted? How so?The one in the states, very gay city.Because I had a premonition & warned the staffs 2 days before lunar 7th month a couple of yrs ago.On the 2nd day of the 7th month, cleaning staff saw a pair of legs under the shower curtain in the women's changing room at around 5am. U know what happened nxt lah. Not well for a few days, then resigned.The ground of the building, not cleared completely. The haunting is not local.To allay their fears, I spoke with the director to ask him to get a priest to come down.Very few ppl aware of this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_dust Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 They have this annual Halloween ghostly trail thing, let's go together I certainly won't rule that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 To cosmo guy, your ghost provides so good room service. why dun you order your in-room dinning and body massage from the indian lady on the phone.& blow jobs, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I get my room/check in around 6am, was alone while 2 of my friends was next roomWhen I walk into the room" I can feel something different , but because I was so tired so I don't care so muchI take off all my cloth , left my underwear only, because I heard ghost scare of seeing naked people Just lay on the bed" some one knock my door" I went to open and thought my friend nock me, but intact no body outside the doorThen I went back to sleep" was laying on the bed, just sleep few minute, the phone was rang, and the voice of Indian lady on the phone was asking if I want English news paper or Malay news paper, which there is no such as services for my roomAfter I answer English, I continue to sleep again, cos I was so sleepyAnd half way onmy sleep " I can see the wall of my bedroom has changed to be a big houses which lots of old man n women in side, included kids as well.I was jump and wake up, I can't take it anymore, I bring my luggage n went to check in counter to ask other roomThey immediately gave to me other new roomThis change of scenery in the room is not a dream, it's more like time warp. You just tapped into that dimension of yesteryear.Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Can transmute but those cannot = energy imprint all over old objects and buildings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 If your experience is about seeing something in your room and not been able to move your body then i would have to say its call paralyse dream where your right brain is still awake and your left brain is alseep due to tired and stress.. lor..Yes, that's true, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I personally experienced something really bad in Grand Hyatt Taipei,,, it was one of my scariest experience after travelling around the world for so many yearsLook at the GIANT TALISMANs, you should know you are not dealing with small flies.Noticed that the frame around the talisman very solid, u know why?Ghost got diff lvls of power.The good & kind ones are very nice, know to to reciprocate by giving 4d #. They want to cross over to the other side.The complaint ghosts want to use your body as a mouthpiece. They enter the side of your torso to want to 'talk'. Unfinished earthly biz.They will re-arranged your molecular/cellular lvl so your voice gradually change into theirs. Vicious.The bad ones want to take over your body to live again. Big liar, too.The Biggest one is the leader, the King of Ghost. Sometiimes known as demons. Full of evil, hatred & anger.This one very difficult to transmute. Love sutras dun work on them. Dun want to move on also.So they are still there but the talisman is like CCTV & make sure they behave themselves.But still got blind spot, therefore the guest kenna lor. Sometimes, thru electrical appliances like lamp or TV.One friendly ghost actually dimmed the light at the sink (in a hotel gym) & then turned it up.I said" good FX, do it again" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 They have this annual Halloween ghostly trail thing, let's go together Tm headlines:'GAYS KENNA GANG RAPED BY INVISIBLE CXXKS IN FOREST'No suspects, no semen, no used condoms or tissues.Victims seemed in 'orgasmic' state for hours, screaming "fxxk me hard, so shiok, i die liao, etc"Strangely, victims' assholes showed signs of being enlarged, possibly by invisible foreign objects.Victims' gentitals also in semi-erect stage.All referred to IMH for further evaluation. Brapantybtm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retri Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 for everyone's information, QingMing is actually the dirtiest month of the year, more so than the 7th month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta_Lilies Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Wow.. i am interested to go on June too.. hope to be an experience in the hotel and since your nick here has something to do with vodka i think you drink and so am i.. i love to drink too.. what say you.. pm me i would be happy to join you...Hehe.. Top_Ghost and Friendly, why not?! the more the merrier! i will be spending most of the time at the casino though.. afraid you guys might be bored out of your mind if you are not into casinos.. would be nice to have some company though for a change oh and am a social drinker lah.. hehe.. it's just a nickname btw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marineboy Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Places where people dont heckcare about QingMing should be safe i guess :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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