justanotherchub Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 NEVER REGRET!I agree, when you want to step into people family & love a married guy, just face what ever come to you next. Don't put the blame on them, cos you already know what type of person they are, if sad ending, just blame oneself " fan jian " hahaha...i love the last word "fan jian" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 cannot assume that only the unmarried person bear all the consequences. dienasaw, mind i ask, if you know drug is no gd & is harmful, what if you still want to try? If addicted & get caught, will you pity the person? sorry to say, is same theory, if you want to fan jian & play this type of game, just bear all the consequences, you are adult & " should " mature enough to think & know what should or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 drugs are non-living things and do not have a mind to get involved with people. yes, i would agree then that people who approach drugs ask for it.married men are living things and have a mind of their own. they can reject any advances made by others and not be there in the first place. that is why they cannot be absolved of their part in this equation, no matter how small a part they play.i think i will not be wrong to say that in some instances, the married persons are the ones who push the unmarried persons to get involved. sighof course, you would turn around and say that the unmarried persons should just walk away. it's always easier for people on the sidelines to criticise but those who are involved, trapped or addicted to anything or anyone will know that it is easier said than done... cos once you are emotionally involved, it is not easy to walk away. you only have to look at drug addicts, gambling addicts, and even smokers to know what i mean... similarly, some of us are relationships addicts i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflection Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 drugs are non-living things and do not have a mind to get involved with people. yes, i would agree then that people who approach drugs ask for it.married men are living things and have a mind of their own. they can reject any advances made by others and not be there in the first place. that is why they cannot be absolved of their part in this equation, no matter how small a part they play.i think i will not be wrong to say that in some instances, the married persons are the ones who push the unmarried persons to get involved. sighof course, you would turn around and say that the unmarried persons should just walk away. it's always easier for people on the sidelines to criticise but those who are involved, trapped or addicted to anything or anyone will know that it is easier said than done... cos once you are emotionally involved, it is not easy to walk away. you only have to look at drug addicts, gambling addicts, and even smokers to know what i mean... similarly, some of us are relationships addicts i guess.sounds like 情花毒 。。。Actually, both the married man and BF have choices to accept or reject. It takes 2 hands to clap.A very sticky entanglement ...... 解铃还须系铃人问世间情为何物,直教人生æ»ç›¸è®¸ï¼ŸI wont say it is the married man or BF or wife's faults.....because we are not them. Quote z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 haha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
like wind Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Just to ask... Ever think about the possible the wife allow her husband to look for a gay and even join them in action.Read this on stories online and also heard from some oversea friends...Feel like wind, roaming free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 dienasaw, from your posts can easily conclude that you are those who don't mind attach with married guys & you like to push the blame to the married guy, true that drug nothing living thing & married men isn't, however your explain cant convince people at all.I just can say if those who " fan jian & fa hua chi, " if get dump pls don't cry father cry mother, you are the one who ask for it, it need 2 hands to clap, then be a real man when love is over, no point say married men this or that, unless you are 3 years old kid who dunno anything at all, mean you are " luo zhi " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 "Will u ever consider accepting someone who is married to become ur bf? And do u think this kind of relationship can last? "Well, this guy i like is single and defintely attractive as some girls in my office use me to distract him. The last thing he did was bending his bare ass in front of me. What can i do to such temptation?!!! I say plz, give up, as he is younger. Though, he may want to be ass fcuked but he got times to loose. I do love him and all the things he did, including politics. In my heart, i say, STAY AWAY?!!! I had hard experience wif married guy but do not want to repeat it. It is not the "I LOVE YOU" he said but the groan during sXX. Too bad nothing happened but my reputation.A relationship last can mean how much can you give?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 dear guest whosoever-u-rlet me trying to writing the way you does and maybe you can understanding me betterer.you like to push the blame to the married guyno lah... where got? i pushing the blames to the married guy meh? i just says he cannot be zero no blameless mah. even 1% blame he doesn't have meh? shirley, he got little bit bit right? I just can say if those who " fan jian & fa hua chi, " i gots agreeable with you mah. i also says that the person who gets involvement with the married personnels ask for it mah. just that i din knows hows to use cheem flower mandorin sentence words only mah. if get dump pls don't cry father cry mother, you are the one who ask for it,actually, i thinks that in many cases hor, the poor married men kena dumping and pumping leh. i think they are the ones who go back to their father, mother, father-in-law and mother-in-law and their suffer long long and suffer wrong wrong wives. now the wives are the ones who crying father and crying mother and saids that their poor husbands kena forced to suck koteh and kena screwdriver by other men... in your wordings, they are no blameing. the unmarried ones are the "fun gent and "fxxk flower craze".it need 2 hands to clap, then be a real man when love is over, no point say married men this or that,this part i think i no understanding why you say one think and mean another think. you says 2 hands but i thinking you only blame the unmarried hand but you let the married hand go. see i show you pciture of how to clap --> :clap: i can also teaching you the sing "When you happy and you knows it" but I think you would be busying typewritering your reply to me rathering to song with meunless you are 3 years old kid who dunno anything at all, mean you are " luo zhi "hornestly i feels likely a 3 years old nows as i am typewrtiering this replying to yous. i dunno anything... i feelings more like having a 'luo han guo'... to get ridding of the tasting of cb juicy off the last married man whom i took, forcibly, against his will, against his most violent and vehement protests, against his strong retaliation, against his totally clear and in no way uncertain rejection, against his every attempt to run away from me, to not answer my call, to not appearing for lunch with me, not appearing at my doorstep, not wanting to step into my bedroom, into my bed, under my sheets, not removing his clothes, not wanting to open his mouth... and legs... oops.... solly, i deviating liao... my fantasticsizing gots the betterer of me... by the ways, "luo zhi" meaning whats har? if it meanings lousy... i think i do feel lousey, i did think that last married man did show me the louses he got from home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 married men are living things and have a mind of their own. they can reject any advances made by others and not be there in the first place. that is why they cannot be absolved of their part in this equation, no matter how small a part they play.i think i will not be wrong to say that in some instances, the married persons are the ones who push the unmarried persons to get involved. sigh What you wrote & mean, BW readers will know, i won't reply anymore, cos you know what you are, so no point for me to say something when a person dunno what is moral at all, just go ahead with it, Good Luck :thumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 ok lor, we wait for others who read my posts properly and with snow bright eyes to judge judge law... lor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 the debate here not about my morals or not leh... it's about whether married men blameless or not leh... if want to debate my morals or the lack thereof, it will be a very short one lah... hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight Ass Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Will u ever consider accepting someone who is married to become ur bf? And do u think this kind of relationship can last? It is totally immoral to steal somone's husband!!!! I won't do that except being his regular fxxk buddy and that's all i need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 ya lor! totally immoral to be bf but ok to be regular fxxk buddy. :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 I am getting confused... Quote Jealousy is when you realise the things you don't have.Envy is when you realise the things you'd never have. -Nip/Tuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilchub Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Dear Tight AssU choose a married man to be ur fxxk buddy, dun u agree somehow u still consider stealing someone hushand too? :whistle: :yuk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 i thought Tight Ass drew his line very clearly.one side of the line is bfthis side is immoral, this is considered stealing husband cos the husband got status with you as mistress-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------on the other side of the line is regular sex buddythis side is not considered stealing husband, cos the husband and you got no status. similar to husband go find prostitute (except not same here, cos gay sex free) so not immoral, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilchub Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 i thought Tight Ass drew his line very clearly.one side of the line is bfthis side is immoral, this is considered stealing husband cos the husband got status with you as mistress-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------on the other side of the line is regular sex buddythis side is not considered stealing husband, cos the husband and you got no status. similar to husband go find prostitute (except not same here, cos gay sex free) so not immoral, right? As long as u know he is a married men, and you still choose to be his long term fxxk buddy even no string attach. Do u still consider urself not immoral? And for ur information, who told u gay sex is totally free? Many married man rather not have any sex encounter with normal PLU like us but instead they log-in into sg boy (IRC) and buy sex from there. Also many sugar daddy they r married man too. :thumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 guess you have your line and Tight Ass has his. the world got many lines unless you have the ability and authority to define & impose the one & only line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 while we are at this... why is the immoral finger pointed at the unmarried person only har? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilchub Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Not at all, my dear dienasaw. I myself was attached with married man before, and i did mentioned thats no right or wrong abt it. The topic here is will u or will u not accept a married man to be ur bf and do u think this kind of relationship can last? Nothing to do with immoral lah, afterall we r not Saint leh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflection Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Quote z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight Ass Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Dear Tight AssU choose a married man to be ur fxxk buddy, dun u agree somehow u still consider stealing someone hushand too? :whistle: :yuk: OK in case i create confusion. What i meant is his wife can have his heart and i just need his dick to keep my ass "occupied" at times if he wants. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 and that, gentlemen, is what it means to be moral - as long as you leave the heart out of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilchub Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Immoral = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 and that, gentlemen, is how you kill a discussion. case close, thanks... very civil service leh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflection Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Case closed ? At least this discussion is still in control and does not culminate into a quarrel and names calling like shameless bitch / Quote z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 no lah... just cut my hair... not long enough for anyone to pull!i guess as long as we focus on the topic and not get personal & resort to names calling, we should be fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflection Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 no lah... just cut my hair... not long enough for anyone to pull!i guess as long as we focus on the topic and not get personal & resort to names calling, we should be fine... But hor....I miss the drama I used to see in those shows like Quote z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Just tune into Taiwan parliment. You see plenty. Quote Jealousy is when you realise the things you don't have.Envy is when you realise the things you'd never have. -Nip/Tuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflection Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Just tune into Taiwan parliment. You see plenty.You mean the Parliament for the Clowns in Taiwan ? Quote z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonely Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 But I have to admit, I take more note of their parliment than ours. I only see our parliment if I need to sleep early. Quote Jealousy is when you realise the things you don't have.Envy is when you realise the things you'd never have. -Nip/Tuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 How come this thread turn to the Taiwan Parliment liao ?Immorality is a measurement, and hence, is subjected to the person measuring. I guess its useless to measure immorality here.NEXT! Quote It's just me.... Asura... don't fear, but be very afraid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienasaw Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 thanks for bringing us back online.anyway, to have a married man for a bf, how long can it last? i think those who get involved with married man are all prepared for short-term happiness only lah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 I think the question is...to have a blissful live with a bf, how long can it last?I think if everyone really love and be love (minus those who don't want love) maybe there is really WORLD PEACE... Quote It's just me.... Asura... don't fear, but be very afraid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherchub Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 thanks for bringing us back online.anyway, to have a married man for a bf, how long can it last? i think those who get involved with married man are all prepared for short-term happiness only lah. Do u mean if get a pure blood bf will have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wit lost Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Hi AllWonder if anyone out there have experience when your BF want to get married?I am in a lost and very frustrated... do share your experience and how you have overcome the first night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 are you referring to a straight marriage or monogamous marriage?straight marriage: then most prob he is acting under parental pressure or he's just using it as an excuse to shoo you away.monogamous marriage: got nothing to saywhatever the case... it's better that you know now than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wit lost Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 He is getting married to a woman...His parents needed a grandchild and he feel that he is pressurized...But right now whenever I saw how hard he tried to find a wife I was very frustrated and uneazyI am afraid of his wedding night...I don't know how I will react and how hard I will take this....knowing that he is making love to a woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopChinese Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dump him. He chose a woman over you. You deserve someone better than this shithead. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buaya Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 As I told my friend, who is now facing this situation... Dump the guy and find someone else who is able to give you happiness and his all... You are not a second best option... Anyway, take care...When I was with my ex, he did mention about the possibility of him getting married... And we talked about getting to know a lesbian couple and we marry each another... But come to think of it... the whole bloody idea now just gives me the creeps... Quote Visit me @ http://ibuaya.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 He know he is a gay and he got married. I suspect this kind of person would submit into any kind of pressure.Dump him, he deserve it. (By this statement, I do not demean any BI) Quote It's just me.... Asura... don't fear, but be very afraid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newguy2l Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 hi guysI know I am at risk at getting flamedbut - this makes life interesting - right?must build up a thick skinto ward off sticks and stonesjust hav a sense of humour lahOK here goes -try to understand the positon of your bfu are not the sun and the moon to him he also has a life - some people call this unwanted baggageie his family - he also has obligations to themand if he decides to try to make a go at a normal marriage and a "normal " lifeI think u should respect his wishes and wish him good luckfor he will need it and a lot of will power to make it workcome on U guysI am sure u must have met lots of married guys in PLU placestherefore they exist in substantial numbersdo all of them go on moaning how depressed they are?the majority are having the best of both worldsthe majority are making the marriage workjust enjoy their company when u see themjsut dont expect too muchand dont get clingyso on the wedding night - I suggest U go to the sauna and go into the dark roomand do what u do bestOK OK I apologise I am sorry for that last sentenceplease try not to be too offensive to me :oops: :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oralb Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 nope Newguy21, i dont think you will get flame for this as i thought you had wrote sense in it.yes no doubt the purist in us will hope that his bf will stay true to his sexual orientation, however we are not his bf, we do not understand what's the social pressure he is going through. His bf might be in a very conservative family where having children meant a lot to the elders. Will this marriage ever work, well we have heard enough stories to know that the changes are slim. nevertheless it is his bf choice. If he choose to go down this path to pacify his family, then he has to make the sacrifice as now it inolves 2 person (him and the wife-to-be)while the last statement on the dark room did deserve a smack by a giant trout though Marineboy 1 Quote When I Think It, I Do It, I Win It! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Still Hiding Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 It always take 2 in a relationship. I was involved with my one & only ex bf 10 over years ago. Our relationship lasted for 4 over years. However, this relationship was meant to be futile.He is the only son under his family tree. I should have seen it coming. But I was dreaming. Till it was too late. His ex gf, now wife came along. I was kept in the dark initially. I tried to hold on to what we have. Told him that I am willing to be his kept bf for the rest of my life even after his marriage. It sound so silly now.Anyway, his disagreed, his just dropped me suddenly. From everyday calls to meet once every few months (before his marriage). I was always looking forward to his calls & those few outing. Finally, I was dropped totally. But he still invited me to his wedding dinner which I could not bear to turn up.I went through a depression, mood swing almost everyday. Try to lay low, not to get notice by co-worker in order to keep my job.Well most people are right. Time will heal everything. Maybe not completely 100% recover, there would be scar.Today, no doubt I am still hiding in the closet, I am more balance & have come to term with myself. Maybe a bit lonely. However, I have come to enjoy this peace & quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Forget your heart and listen to your head. Let logic dictate for once. There's no happiness in this. Unless you guys are just in affairs of flesh, You'll end up being drawn deeper into a turmoil of emotions and affair that will drag and hurt. If you love him , let him go and seek what he believe will make him happy. And pray he will really turn str and find happiness in his family life. You should move on..get a bf who love u and stay with u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wit lost Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hi guysthank you all for advise and commentsIt has been awhile since my last relationship and I am always wanted a monogamy relationshipHe make me feel wanted and he makes a point to call me when he is back home (he is a foreigner)He told me not to be too worry about his marriage as he just want kids not a wifeBut i am not sure how I will react on his wedding night...especially when I know that he is making love to his wifemy moods has been swinging because of this and have afew sleepless night:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exec_fetish Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I guess we always have to be wary of this day when our bi-bfs so decide to get married. I'm a bi who's in love with another bi, and I decided to break up with my gf to be with him completely. Although he chided me for being silly for breaking up with my gf, I could sensed that he was secretly pleased with my decision. However, I have to prepare for the fact that someday he or even myself might get attached with a girl eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wit lost Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 He is not a bi....he doesnt like woman at all....he just need a marriage and kid because of his parents, relatives and friends pressure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DEDM Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 He may want kids only but kids can only come when there's a wife who could become the mother unless he's only looking for a surrogate mother. This is possible in US and the surrogate mother could be artificially inseminated.You have to be ready because it is not just having to deal with your partner's first night with the woman, but also the start of a relationship where you need to accept that he needs to fulfill his role as a dad too.There are much involved and much at stake. Are you ready?Ultimately, you need to decide for yourself the life you want to lead.Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts