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just thinking ... will becoming a monk and living in temple prevent loneliness in old age?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchorite

 

I would think so since you spend most of the time living with just yourself in your "cell". You learn to be at peace with yourself. I think it's like meditating.

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Nobody is restricting anybody.  People fear having friend or lover as some kind digital curfew wrist wrap worn around prisoner, is unlikely to feel love. I called it self-love.  It is always "ME, I, MINE", layer and layer of gates installed for fear of security breached that you hallucinated may cost you dearly.

 

I do understand why people gave up hoppy.  They fear bugs and stopped gardening,  they travel regularly and stopped doing aquarium,  they have no budget and stopped their painting suddently....etc

 

Having lover, what cost is there? Time, freedom, fear of the unseen that he may turned into Warewolf when the clock struck 12?

 

You can still travel, no budget needrf to maintain a relationship, and still do what you like (and still have sex), and yes, he will be there to rid the creepy bug that landed on your shoulder without you knowing.

 

The fact that your lover may also have the same fear as you. That makes solution even easier to solve.  He wants freedom, and you too - sound fair.  The next problem may than result - if you are paranoid and fear he "eat fresh" outside your bedroom because of the freedom both sought, than you know freedom may also cause you unease emotionally and mentally.  

 

FREEDOM!!!! is not always free. To be free, is to be overwhelmed by love and you get forget coming to his forum and live a happy life thereafter.

 

This is why it is wise to abandon silly misconceptions and romantic fairy tales and look positively at open relationships at an early stage in life.

Open relationships are the ones who last and grow into good friendships and companionship.

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This is why it is wise to abandon silly misconceptions and romantic fairy tales and look positively at open relationships at an early stage in life.

Open relationships are the ones who last and grow into good friendships and companionship.

 

Really? Once in awhile fuck session is your understanding of good friendships and companionship?

Why not admit that you can't and you don't have what it takes to secure and sustain real fruitful and true relationship?

Again, another old and whining defeated spilling her/his failure all over.

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I think it is best if You can have a circle of friends who are all willing sex partners, who would do regular medical check up to Ensure they are clean, and who would not be jealous if you are intimate with others in the group. Other than sex, can take turns to host dinner party every week or every month. Can go traveling together. Can call on one another when horny. I think it would be wonderful to form such a group of friends and be part of that group when you are old. Anyone interested and want to take the lead to form one... I would be member no 1.

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I think it is best if You can have a circle of friends who are all willing sex partners, who would do regular medical check up to Ensure they are clean, and who would not be jealous if you are intimate with others in the group.

I can't allow that.  I am very focus on my love.  I believe in chastity, I believe my body is only given to one person only.  I am not an advocate of sharing. Sorry.

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just thinking ... will becoming a monk and living in temple prevent loneliness in old age?

 

Yes, you won't feel loneliness living in the temple because you will be kept busy chanting, meditating, helping up in the kitchen and doing area cleaning in the hall and toilets of the temple.   There is no such thing as a free lunch.

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I think it is best if You can have a circle of friends who are all willing sex partners, who would do regular medical check up to Ensure they are clean, and who would not be jealous if you are intimate with others in the group. Other than sex, can take turns to host dinner party every week or every month. Can go traveling together. Can call on one another when horny. I think it would be wonderful to form such a group of friends and be part of that group when you are old. Anyone interested and want to take the lead to form one... I would be member no 1.

 

Forming a group to have orgies together should not be the main motivation.  Hosting party every week or traveling together is also secondary.  The main focus of the support group should be nursing care and palliative care.  Someone who can buy you food when you are bed ridden, someone help to execute your will in the event that you are mentally unable to do so, someone who can buy you a coffin and arrange a decent funeral with the rites that you desire.   In short, end of life care (EoLC). 

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Really? Once in awhile fuck session is your understanding of good friendships and companionship?

Why not admit that you can't and you don't have what it takes to secure and sustain real fruitful and true relationship?

Again, another old and whining defeated spilling her/his failure all over.

 

LOL!   Who is sounding here like a defeated, cranky old fellow whining over his one or many failures in "faithful" relationships?

We see "faithful" relationships fail all over the place, with jealousy, disenchantment, hate being usual results.

I have a wonderful relationship with a former lover turned friend that is holding strong for nearly 20 years.

And I want to share what my experience has taught me for the benefit of those who want long-lasting relationships.

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I can't allow that.  I am very focus on my love.  I believe in chastity, I believe my body is only given to one person only.  I am not an advocate of sharing. Sorry.

 

By being selfishly focused on "your love" you risk receiving a big disappointment if your partner is ever tempted into infidelity.  This is very probable among men, especially gay men. 

What is the sense of "to give my body to one person only"?  Our bodies are not so different to justify such strange exclusivity.

 

Your "fidelity" is somewhat similar to the person who will never eat outside of home.  "I only ingest food that I have prepared myself".  Well...  if this makes you happy...  but this does not imply that if one eats sometimes in a restaurant or in someone else's house this is something negative.  The odd one is the person who would not do that.

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By being selfishly focused on "your love" you risk receiving a big disappointment if your partner is ever tempted into infidelity.  This is very probable among men, especially gay men. 

What is the sense of "to give my body to one person only"?  Our bodies are not so different to justify such strange exclusivity.

 

Your "fidelity" is somewhat similar to the person who will never eat outside of home.  "I only ingest food that I have prepared myself".  Well...  if this makes you happy...  but this does not imply that if one eats sometimes in a restaurant or in someone else's house this is something negative.  The odd one is the person who would not do that.

 

You people just any how drag in any reference expecting to win in any argument huh? I find this kind of practice and mentality very common in old people because they are stubborn and refuse to correct their flaws.

 

So you brought up eating at home and eating in restaurant? You mean you can fuck your partner/wife at home and you also walked into restaurant and fuck the waitress/waiters/floor managers/owner as and when as you wish? The odd one is you who would want to do it.

 

Don't tell me it's just for example, it doesn't make sense.

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You people just any how drag in any reference expecting to win in any argument huh? I find this kind of practice and mentality very common in old people because they are stubborn and refuse to correct their flaws.

 

So you brought up eating at home and eating in restaurant? You mean you can fuck your partner/wife at home and you also walked into restaurant and fuck the waitress/waiters/floor managers/owner as and when as you wish? The odd one is you who would want to do it.

 

Don't tell me it's just for example, it doesn't make sense.

 

Maybe it was my mistake to think that since you don't understand the real thing you may understand through an example. But let me try again:

 

You obviously would only accept a relation with someone who agrees to only fuck with you and not with anyone else.

Now suppose that in your generosity you also want this someone to only eat what you cook and never taste the food prepared by anyone else.

Why would you do that?  probably because you think that if he tries other food he would prefer someone else's food over yours.

 

So lets apply this explanation to the sex between you and your partner.

You want as a partner someone who is so over your head that you are afraid that if he has sex with the others he may easily find, he may not want to have it with you again.

 

You should be pitied for your insecurity.  You have such fear of not measuring up that you rather put a chastity belt on your partner than risk that he finds enjoyment with someone else.  Is this LOVE?  I don't think so.

 

In a good, healthy relationship, you will be happy if your partner has a great time having sex with you or with someone else.  And conversely, he will feel the same about you. And if there are reasons beyond sex to keep the two of you together, you will live a happy life with each other.  This is the case in an open relationship.  And this is why these relationships last so long.

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Maybe it was my mistake to think that since you don't understand the real thing you may understand through an example. But let me try again:

 

You obviously would only accept a relation with someone who agrees to only fuck with you and not with anyone else.

Now suppose that in your generosity you also want this someone to only eat what you cook and never taste the food prepared by anyone else.

Why would you do that?  probably because you think that if he tries other food he would prefer someone else's food over yours.

 

So lets apply this explanation to the sex between you and your partner.

You want as a partner someone who is so over your head that you are afraid that if he has sex with the others he may easily find, he may not want to have it with you again.

 

You should be pitied for your insecurity.  You have such fear of not measuring up that you rather put a chastity belt on your partner than risk that he finds enjoyment with someone else.  Is this LOVE?  I don't think so.

 

In a good, healthy relationship, you will be happy if your partner has a great time having sex with you or with someone else.  And conversely, he will feel the same about you. And if there are reasons beyond sex to keep the two of you together, you will live a happy life with each other.  This is the case in an open relationship.  And this is why these relationships last so long.

 

Really? I say that's just your excuses to get the best of both worlds, try all means to touch on anything walk with 2 legs (maybe more) and something dangling in between. You just want to sample everyone caught in your eyes.

You want to get ahead of everyone else, not succumb to losing.

That's just plain greedy, nothing to do with insecurity.

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Really? I say that's just your excuses to get the best of both worlds, try all means to touch on anything walk with 2 legs (maybe more) and something dangling in between. You just want to sample everyone caught in your eyes.

You want to get ahead of everyone else, not succumb to losing.

That's just plain greedy, nothing to do with insecurity.

 

Sorry to add, it is indeed insecurity, insecure about losing out of not able to get everything you greedily craved for.

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Really? I say that's just your excuses to get the best of both worlds, try all means to touch on anything walk with 2 legs (maybe more) and something dangling in between. You just want to sample everyone caught in your eyes.

You want to get ahead of everyone else, not succumb to losing.

That's just plain greedy, nothing to do with insecurity.

 

 

Sorry to add, it is indeed insecurity, insecure about losing out of not able to get everything you greedily craved for.

 

Sorry to add again, you talked like as if everyone in the entire humanity of the past thousands years who were able to sustain monogamous happy relationship is because they cheated behind each other's back. Did you even gave a good thought about what you're going to say? Or just want to get words out, any how hantam, expecting to hit the target blindly out of luck and win the argument?

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hard to prevent. I have been aware of this very very old uncle running like he was aiming for marathon, and he did pushed up so many times to impress people that at his age, he can surpass that stamina....etc. He trained himself until his meat was gone and left with that tough bones to impress..because he was mostly half-naked while execising to impress people with his sweaty skin....

I hardly see him nowadays.....man cannot win mortality.

I find skinny old man not appealing.

Strangely, some tan stocky guys in their 30s or 40s aren't too bad looking...

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There has to be at least one old gay couple in Singapore to be living proof that loneliness doesnt await in old age.

 

Oh... there are surely many!

Gay couples, especially in Singapore, don't advertise their union with neon signs of brilliant colored lights placed outside their doors or houses.

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Sorry to add, it is indeed insecurity, insecure about losing out of not able to get everything you greedily craved for.

 

If you were not so dumb you would realize that we all know that we cannot get "everything we so greedily crave for".

So to argue that this is the reason for being insecure...  is certainly stupid.

 

Sorry to add again, you talked like as if everyone in the entire humanity of the past thousands years who were able to sustain monogamous happy relationship is because they cheated behind each other's back. Did you even gave a good thought about what you're going to say? Or just want to get words out, any how hantam, expecting to hit the target blindly out of luck and win the argument?

 

You keep adding dumb comments. 

You talk as if no one in the entire humanity of the past thousands years was able to have a happy open relationship where the couples are pleased that their partners have a good time, no matter with whom, and they celebrate their lack of jealousy and distrust and fights and suffering but instead they celebrate their mutual happiness.

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I find skinny old man not appealing.

Strangely, some tan stocky guys in their 30s or 40s aren't too bad looking...

not strange, that is because 30 and 40 still young.....wait till 50 or 60 and with years of sun exposure, the skin became dehydrated, dull, full of pigmentation and wrinkles, that will be a different story....

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If you were not so dumb you would realize that we all know that we cannot get "everything we so greedily crave for".

So to argue that this is the reason for being insecure...  is certainly stupid.

 

 

You keep adding dumb comments. 

You talk as if no one in the entire humanity of the past thousands years was able to have a happy open relationship where the couples are pleased that their partners have a good time, no matter with whom, and they celebrate their lack of jealousy and distrust and fights and suffering but instead they celebrate their mutual happiness.

 

Who's dumb and stubborn and dying to win in every argument?

You advocated that open relationships are the ones who last and grow yada yada yada... writing every monogamous relationship off just because of your own bloody FAILURE 20 YEARS AGO !

What? You the bloody cranky old queen of all beings ah? You are the one and only truth ah? What the fuck are you?

Then when someone overthrown your points, you talked back with the structure used by your opponent.

I can see why you can't work it out in the last 20 (OR MORE !) years lor.

 

This is why it is wise to abandon silly misconceptions and romantic fairy tales and look positively at open relationships at an early stage in life.

Open relationships are the ones who last and grow into good friendships and companionship.

 

OK lor, your father mother in good companionship? Your grandfather grandmother? All your relatives?

Yes? Must be open relationship lah.

No? Now we see see why liao lor because your entire damn clan don't have what it takes to be faithful lor.

 

I'm sure you'll find something to twist one but no matter how you twist, can you step over the matrimonial law?

Admit that you have that freak greed for lots of young meat lah why don't you? 老不死.  <_<

 

 

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Alone? In my perspective, it is not something everyone loved to be caught in such situation - there were not enough "kind hearted & handsome" gay man to share around in this world. No matter how many organisers you started or gathering you initiated with spontaneous particiapants bearing an ideal and hope. The result may be quite predictable:-

A: Gosh, he looks plump

B: Why is he so sloppy in his dressing?

C: I saw his scars and pimples everywhere

D: Oh no, this uncle always stood at the urinal. I knew him.

E: So skinny, I think he is under nourished

F: He is too stylish for my taste and that heavy make up too.

G: Why is my ex-bf here?

H. He smells when he talked

I. I don't think this chap is my type, better stand far far away from him

J: He is so loud and bitchy, not my type.

You get the point. 10 people turned up and started to judge each other phsyically even before the introduction.

That's life isn't it? All these people were there with hope, hope to find that dreamed guy and was supportive of such event. Eventually, the numbers dwindled not because they are not supportive, but they may think it is a waste of their time because they couldn't find the person they like. It happened in Sauna, doesn't mean such mentality will not carry beyond the cruising spectrum of their life.

Unless...there is enough handsome & kind-hearted man to share around. This gay world will have many lonesome soul and probably die alone as a result.

Now....stop judging my writing here. Ask yourself first - with full honesty in your heart.

The mindset to attend such event is already wrong. The problem is most aj but not all go to such event to find bf NOT make friends.

The bf filter already apply before knowing each other.

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Who's dumb and stubborn and dying to win in every argument?

You advocated that open relationships are the ones who last and grow yada yada yada... writing every monogamous relationship off just because of your own bloody FAILURE 20 YEARS AGO !

What? You the bloody cranky old queen of all beings ah? You are the one and only truth ah? What the fuck are you?

Then when someone overthrown your points, you talked back with the structure used by your opponent.

I can see why you can't work it out in the last 20 (OR MORE !) years lor.

 

 

OK lor, your father mother in good companionship? Your grandfather grandmother? All your relatives?

Yes? Must be open relationship lah.

No? Now we see see why liao lor because your entire damn clan don't have what it takes to be faithful lor.

 

I'm sure you'll find something to twist one but no matter how you twist, can you step over the matrimonial law?

Admit that you have that freak greed for lots of young meat lah why don't you? 老不死.  <_<

 

LOL! LOL! LOL!  Thank you for making me laugh over every one of your phrases!

 

I know very little about the matrimonial relationships of my ancestors.  Do you?

Many married couples live happily in monogamy.  Many married couples have horrible conflicts that not always show.

 

But this has little to do with what I wrote you a while ago:  "This is why it is wise to abandon silly misconceptions and romantic fairy tales and look positively at open relationships at an early stage in life".

 

YES!   You have silly misconceptions, this is why you mentioned the parents and grandparents, idealized in monogamous heterosexual successful unions.  But YOU know as little as I do about how successful they were.  Our ancestors DIDN'T HAVE SUCCESSFUL HOMOSEXUAL OPEN RELATIONSHIPS,  because nobody knew that they could exist at the time.

 

I am talking about TODAY.  

And you are the one who in this times and ages calls me : " You the bloody cranky old queen of all beings ah? You are the one and only truth ah? What the fuck are you?" like I am telling something new about relationships. 

 

Open your eyes and look around.  In today's world, the most successful long-term gay relationships are the open ones.  You like it or not.

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not strange, that is because 30 and 40 still young.....wait till 50 or 60 and with years of sun exposure, the skin became dehydrated, dull, full of pigmentation and wrinkles, that will be a different story....

 

Today even at 50 or 60 people can have decent skin, decent figure.  I recently saw an interview with Jane Fonda, the fitness guru of the 80's, and I was impressed by how good she still looks. She is 77 years old now.

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Today even at 50 or 60 people can have decent skin, decent figure.  I recently saw an interview with Jane Fonda, the fitness guru of the 80's, and I was impressed by how good she still looks. She is 77 years old now.

You'll probably be more impressed by the money she has spent on up-keep and maintenance, cosmetics, lighting, shooting angle, high-tech post production photo-shop and etc,

I deduce you define/set the standard the term "successful" as in the amount of time "together" physically.

Others turn a deaf ear and a blind eye at other spots.

My own grand-mother was a mail-to -order bride.

The great grand-mother on the mother side had bounded feet.

Cheers. 

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LOL! LOL! LOL!  Thank you for making me laugh over every one of your phrases!

 

I know very little about the matrimonial relationships of my ancestors.  Do you?

Many married couples live happily in monogamy.  Many married couples have horrible conflicts that not always show.

 

But this has little to do with what I wrote you a while ago:  "This is why it is wise to abandon silly misconceptions and romantic fairy tales and look positively at open relationships at an early stage in life".

 

YES!   You have silly misconceptions, this is why you mentioned the parents and grandparents, idealized in monogamous heterosexual successful unions.  But YOU know as little as I do about how successful they were.  Our ancestors DIDN'T HAVE SUCCESSFUL HOMOSEXUAL OPEN RELATIONSHIPS,  because nobody knew that they could exist at the time.

 

I am talking about TODAY.  

And you are the one who in this times and ages calls me : " You the bloody cranky old queen of all beings ah? You are the one and only truth ah? What the fuck are you?" like I am telling something new about relationships. 

 

Open your eyes and look around.  In today's world, the most successful long-term gay relationships are the open ones.  You like it or not.

 

Look at you, dare not to give any answer directly and try all you can to beat around the bushes.
What today yesterday blah blah blah... ?
Why? They were your parents yesterday and not anymore today meh?
Why? You walked on two legs previously and now what? Sashaying with your drooping butt on the floor across the room meh?
 
Are you sure ancestors DIDN'T HAVE SUCCESSFUL HOMOSEXUAL OPEN RELATIONSHIPS ?
Wah you are so damn ancient to know the little nitty-gritty things of your ancestors BUT some how you don't know whether your parents were/are having good companionship, relationship?  :blink:
What a fucked up obnoxious selfish contradicting bitchy hag as whatever on your mind is all about yourself and keep fantasizing of how to grab the crotch of all the young boys !
 
What misconception was that as you had so proudly demonstrated wah.
 
Tell us leh, are your parents having good terms? They have open relationship like what you claimed or you all just a bunch of losers and wasters who can't get things work out?
On the other hand we can forget it lah, I know your type one. Die die also don't want to lose face and admit your fault one. No wonder you failed 20 years ago and keep wasting and failing all these years! Total fucked up.
 
Yes, one thing is different. You were here yesterday, you'll definitely be gone tomorrow, soon!
Like it or not? Who cares?! You are NOTHING!  :whistle:  :yuk:
 
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Open your eyes and look around.  In today's world, the most successful long-term gay relationships are the open ones.  You like it or not.

 

Simply get some guys into bed is successful ah? Wah lau, prostitute ah you? Another successful transaction ah?
No wonder you have a number.  <_<
 
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hahaha...you guys really good in quarrelling...I read also laughed.,,so funny but dun take it too personally lah...

 

everyone has his point...he is looking from his own angle...could be right,could be wrong, in fact, nobody knows...

 

it is ideal to have a one-to-one relationship. but in the gay world, very sadly, it is difficult to find, not to mention maintain. But there are exceptions and if one can find one, I am so happy for for them...will I myself ever find one? I dunno but if it comes, it comes. There is no point to force a one-on-one relationship if the other party is not the type and wants to hv an open relationship.

 

be like water,i.e. be flexible....dun be like some intolerant religions do...impose what they want people to believe and do things their way.

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You'll probably be more impressed by the money she has spent on up-keep and maintenance, cosmetics, lighting, shooting angle, high-tech post production photo-shop and etc,

I deduce you define/set the standard the term "successful" as in the amount of time "together" physically.

 

In the interview I saw by Steve Colbert of Jane Fonda she walked on the stage quite well displaying a figure of a woman at least 20 years younger than her, a face free of wrinkles and age signs (yes, it takes some money but not an unreasonable amount), and she spoke very intelligently.

 

About judging the success of a relationship by the amount of time the two are together,  this is more valid in the case of gay couples than the heterosexual married couples. 

 

We gays can easily separate because we usually are not formally married and don't have children.  

A married couple will usually put up with much more unhappiness before they divorce, because they want to protect their children and communal property.

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Simply get some guys into bed is successful ah? Wah lau, prostitute ah you? Another successful transaction ah?
No wonder you have a number.  <_<

 

LOL!  Maybe my number 5380 is the number of guys I have been in bed with?  It is not so because of lack of desire but because I would be full of STDs by now, hahaha.  Also my 'number' would be changing periodically.   :)

 

I'm not sure that the person with whom I have a successful relationship would like me to get in bed with 5380 guys, but he has no problems with some here-and-there. He is happy when I have a good time, and vice versa.  A SUCCESSFUL relationship.

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it is ideal to have a one-to-one relationship. but in the gay world, very sadly, it is difficult to find, not to mention maintain. But there are exceptions and if one can find one, I am so happy for for them...will I myself ever find one? I dunno but if it comes, it comes. There is no point to force a one-on-one relationship if the other party is not the type and wants to hv an open relationship.

 

be like water,i.e. be flexible....dun be like some intolerant religions do...impose what they want people to believe and do things their way.

 

Another 'Guest', I guess.  You can think "if it comes, it comes" until the end of your life.

And you don't want a partner who wants an open relationship.  Why not?

You like to have TOTAL POSSESSION of another person,  like with a pet or something you hang from the wall?

Is this egoism (not to ever share your BF with others) or insecurity (your BF gets hooked up in the sharing?)

 

Big mistake.  Share love and companionship and care with your BF, but without exclusivity over his other body parts.

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LOL!  Maybe my number 5380 is the number of guys I have been in bed with?  It is not so because of lack of desire but because I would be full of STDs by now, hahaha.  Also my 'number' would be changing periodically.   :)

 

I'm not sure that the person with whom I have a successful relationship would like me to get in bed with 5380 guys, but he has no problems with some here-and-there. He is happy when I have a good time, and vice versa.  A SUCCESSFUL relationship.

 

Like the Chinese says, don't try to stick gold onto your face lah.

5380 is your prostitution identification number.

 

"go chean sa ba puey za ho gwey !"
 
Number 5380 Chicken !
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Another 'Guest', I guess.  You can think "if it comes, it comes" until the end of your life.

And you don't want a partner who wants an open relationship.  Why not?

You like to have TOTAL POSSESSION of another person,  like with a pet or something you hang from the wall?

Is this egoism (not to ever share your BF with others) or insecurity (your BF gets hooked up in the sharing?)

 

Big mistake.  Share love and companionship and care with your BF, but without exclusivity over his other body parts.

 

 
People around the world work so hard to get monogamous homosexual marriage legalized.
This bloody weak and useless obnoxious sexually hungry nobody came and talked about open relationships and casual sex is the way to go for homosexual who seek happiness.
No wonder the freaky dot still can't let go of the stupid penal code 377A because the authority must have known a lot of losers like such who'll jump on every boy.
Typical third world itchy slutty whore.
If that's not rampant avarice then what?
However I think it is a bless to the entire human race at the moment, especially the males because if that whore got a chee bye then whore would definitely go all the way out with that so called valid-sex-organ-for-sucking-cock and grope every single dick into whore's flippering vulva just so that whore can be happy.
So, count yourself lucky that the whore don't have vagina, YET.
 
That's worst than prostitute, at least prostitute got something back in their pocket.
Why? Sex without monetary benefit is more noble meh? Tell it to the rape victims and judge lah and go ahead to praise those practice adultery.
If majority on earth agree with you, you can come and chop my head.
 
And ya, a bunch of nymphomaniac meet up then fuck and go fuck and go is relationship ah?
WOW, then prostitute must have thousands of happy good relationship, win liao lor.
You would know hor, as you like to tag those as relationships, number 5830 whore !
 
 
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I'm not sure that the person with whom I have a successful relationship would like me to get in bed with 5380 guys, but he has no problems with some here-and-there. He is happy when I have a good time, and vice versa.  A SUCCESSFUL relationship.

 

Because he cannot give you what you so greedily craving for, and he know damn sure YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO IS CAPABLE OF KEEPING HIM AT BAY !

He is happy because he don't have to take up responsibility as a worthy partner, the same for you.

You two rotten pig and whore are made for each other, looking for quick cheap, or shall I say free, sex.

That's right, you two have nothing worth for everybody to feel the need to want.

So sia suay still come and brag and brag and brag. You're a loser 20 years back, and still one today. chiak liao bee sia suay whore !

 

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Another 'Guest', I guess.  You can think "if it comes, it comes" until the end of your life.

And you don't want a partner who wants an open relationship.  Why not?

You like to have TOTAL POSSESSION of another person,  like with a pet or something you hang from the wall?

Is this egoism (not to ever share your BF with others) or insecurity (your BF gets hooked up in the sharing?)

 

Big mistake.  Share love and companionship and care with your BF, but without exclusivity over his other body parts.

 

Your tiny brain is so freaking fucked-up crooked, I doubt you have one.

 

Healthy monogamous relationship is not about possessive and exclusively over who whatever's body. It is the willingness to devote and dedicate to the other party which in turn sublimate both into two irreplaceable halves for each other.

If you don't know the core principles don't come and act clever.

 

As for you, any body can replace you, who the fuck are you? You are worthless to everybody. Nobody give a damn about you and vice versa. You lack the ability of self control, instead let desire manipulates you.

You call yourself human?

Wasted all your life and all the resources, Shame on you !

If you are so happy why are you here? Looking for new meat? Constantly looking for new meat? Trying to lure more young boys to be your fuck buddies?  <_<

 

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I'm not sure that the person with whom I have a successful relationship would like me to get in bed with 5380 guys, but he has no problems with some here-and-there. He is happy when I have a good time, and vice versa.  A SUCCESSFUL relationship.

 

And you don't want a partner who wants an open relationship.  Why not?

 

While people everywhere is working hard to push the legalization of monogamous gay marriage, you are the bloody fucking chao chee bye sabotaging everyone's effort.
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Look at you, dare not to give any answer directly and try all you can to beat around the bushes.
What today yesterday blah blah blah... ?
Why? They were your parents yesterday and not anymore today meh?
Why? You walked on two legs previously and now what? Sashaying with your drooping butt on the floor across the room meh?
 
Are you sure ancestors DIDN'T HAVE SUCCESSFUL HOMOSEXUAL OPEN RELATIONSHIPS ?
Wah you are so damn ancient to know the little nitty-gritty things of your ancestors BUT some how you don't know whether your parents were/are having good companionship, relationship?  :blink:
What a fucked up obnoxious selfish contradicting bitchy hag as whatever on your mind is all about yourself and keep fantasizing of how to grab the crotch of all the young boys !
 
What misconception was that as you had so proudly demonstrated wah.
 
Tell us leh, are your parents having good terms? They have open relationship like what you claimed or you all just a bunch of losers and wasters who can't get things work out?
On the other hand we can forget it lah, I know your type one. Die die also don't want to lose face and admit your fault one. No wonder you failed 20 years ago and keep wasting and failing all these years! Total fucked up.
 
Yes, one thing is different. You were here yesterday, you'll definitely be gone tomorrow, soon!
Like it or not? Who cares?! You are NOTHING!  :whistle:  :yuk:

 

 

 

 

 
People around the world work so hard to get monogamous homosexual marriage legalized.
This bloody weak and useless obnoxious sexually hungry nobody came and talked about open relationships and casual sex is the way to go for homosexual who seek happiness.
No wonder the freaky dot still can't let go of the stupid penal code 377A because the authority must have known a lot of losers like such who'll jump on every boy.
Typical third world itchy slutty whore.
If that's not rampant avarice then what?
However I think it is a bless to the entire human race at the moment, especially the males because if that whore got a chee bye then whore would definitely go all the way out with that so called valid-sex-organ-for-sucking-cock and grope every single dick into whore's flippering vulva just so that whore can be happy.
So, count yourself lucky that the whore don't have vagina, YET.
 
That's worst than prostitute, at least prostitute got something back in their pocket.
Why? Sex without monetary benefit is more noble meh? Tell it to the rape victims and judge lah and go ahead to praise those practice adultery.
If majority on earth agree with you, you can come and chop my head.
 
And ya, a bunch of nymphomaniac meet up then fuck and go fuck and go is relationship ah?
WOW, then prostitute must have thousands of happy good relationship, win liao lor.
You would know hor, as you like to tag those as relationships, number 5830 whore !

 

 

 

Your tiny brain is so freaking fucked-up crooked, I doubt you have one.

 

Healthy monogamous relationship is not about possessive and exclusively over who whatever's body. It is the willingness to devote and dedicate to the other party which in turn sublimate both into two irreplaceable halves for each other.

If you don't know the core principles don't come and act clever.

 

As for you, any body can replace you, who the fuck are you? You are worthless to everybody. Nobody give a damn about you and vice versa. You lack the ability of self control, instead let desire manipulates you.

You call yourself human?

Wasted all your life and all the resources, Shame on you !

If you are so happy why are you here? Looking for new meat? Constantly looking for new meat? Trying to lure more young boys to be your fuck buddies?  <_<

 

 

Some "Guest" has blown a fuse here   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Nothing better than contradicting his dumb ideas about open relationships to produce this avalanche of crap he launches here!

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While people everywhere is working hard to push the legalization of monogamous gay marriage, you are the bloody fucking chao chee bye sabotaging everyone's effort.

 

 

Dumb, dumb dumb !!!

 

We all have witnessed for years this battle between the defenders of  "traditional marriage" against the proponents of "same-sex marriage".

 

In the United States, my country, the LAW about marriage has been searched with microscope and turned upside down to find any clues to resolve the conflict.

 

Nowhere in the law has it ever been written that in marriage between TWO people (not a polygamous marriage), they have to remain  MONOGAMOUS, and nobody in the worldwide discussion about same-sex marriage has argued about this. 

 

Man and woman go to the government office to get a marriage license, which never prohibits them to have sex with others. There is no law that requires this.  And for good reasons, because it would force the office to hire thousands of private investigators to check that such law is being enforced.

 

So I think that "Guest" deserves the distinction of having written the most idiotic post in this thread.

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Some "Guest" has blown a fuse here   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Nothing better than contradicting his dumb ideas about open relationships to produce this avalanche of crap he launches here!

 

Dumb, dumb dumb !!!

 

We all have witnessed for years this battle between the defenders of  "traditional marriage" against the proponents of "same-sex marriage".

 

In the United States, my country, the LAW about marriage has been searched with microscope and turned upside down to find any clues to resolve the conflict.

 

Nowhere in the law has it ever been written "MONOGAMOUS marriage" , and nobody in the discussion has argued about this. 

 

Man and woman go to the government office to get a marriage license, and they are never asked if they are monogamous.  There is no law that requires this.  And for good reasons, because it would force the office to hire thousands of private investigators to check that such law is being enforced.

 

So I think that "Guest" deserves the distinction of having written the most idiotic post in this thread.

 

Of course I would blown a fuse over matters like this. How can anyone take relationship so lightly and abuse it as if it is rubbish.
Crap? So legalization of same-sex unions and access to spousal benefits like all straight married couple is crap to you.
You thought everybody, like you, still living in the 70s, 20th century where such expectations are forbidden and taboo?
You're outdated and yet you said you want to talk about TODAY ?! Who's contradicting?!
Go back to your bloody rotten shit hole lah. You're nothing but maggot from a fucked-up family. Shame on you and your entire family, wasting everybody's time and resources, putting your ancestor to shame! I can see why you keep dodging the question regarding your parents' relationship because all of you are fucked-up.
 
United States your country? Then why are you here? Because guys in the state don't give a damn about you and no one there want you ! So you think you can take advantage of Asian boys. You're doomed lah !
You are way past your youth and prime, at least 20 YEARS TOO OLD! No wonder you chose the easy way out using your body as a tool expecting to stuff your emptiness with sex.
Ya right, better suck more old limpy cocks, provided if you can, because time is running out for you old scum.
 
残花败柳还死皮赖脸招摇过市,下贱 5380 号野鸡。只有烂家庭贱家长才生得出你这种下贱烂货,丢尽你全祖宗十八代脸。贴钱都没人要,呸!
你也没有多少日子了啦。
 
Can't understand? Serve you right !
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We all have witnessed for years this battle between the defenders of  "traditional marriage" against the proponents of "same-sex marriage".

 

In the United States, my country, the LAW about marriage has been searched with microscope and turned upside down to find any clues to resolve the conflict.

 

Nowhere in the law has it ever been written that in marriage between TWO people (not a polygamous marriage), they have to remain  MONOGAMOUS, and nobody in the worldwide discussion about same-sex marriage has argued about this. 

 

Man and woman go to the government office to get a marriage license, which never prohibits them to have sex with others. There is no law that requires this.  And for good reasons, because it would force the office to hire thousands of private investigators to check that such law is being enforced.

 

Divorce rate due to adultery and infidelity is also FUCKING HIGH ! This shows that promiscuous is not tolerable! 

A simple google search will easily overthrown your arguments, dumb ass.

Don't try to bullshit half-fuck story here.

 

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Of course I would blown a fuse over matters like this. How can anyone take relationship so lightly and abuse it as if it is rubbish.
Crap? So legalization of same-sex unions and access to spousal benefits like all straight married couple is crap to you.
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Can't understand? Serve you right !

 

I cannot understand how you are so brainless.

Marriage relationships are not so 'holy' as you want to make them.  The divorce rate in the US is around 50%, and not much better in other countries.

But marriage should be a right for same-sex couples, deserving of the same status as mixed-sex couples.  This is not in discussion.

 

What the discussion you started is about is the MONOGAMY in a relationship.  

This is only a requirement in the minds of dumb sanctimonious people who have been brain-washed.

 

(NOTE: I have edited my previous post to make it clear that MONOGAMY here means "sex with only one partner",  not "marriage between only two people"...  just in case you want to argue that the law prohibits polygamous marriage)

 

We don't know for sure how monogamous our parents and other ancestors were.  Only recently can you find out if you are indeed the son of who appears to be your father, hahaha.

 

 

United States your country? Then why are you here? Because guys in the state don't give a damn about you and no one there want you ! So you think you can take advantage of Asian boys. You're doomed lah !

You are way past your youth and prime, at least 20 YEARS TOO OLD! No wonder you chose the easy way out using your body as a tool expecting to stuff your emptiness with sex.
Ya right, better suck more old limpy cocks, provided if you can, because time is running out for you old scum.
 
残花败柳还死皮赖脸招摇过市,下贱 5380 号野鸡。只有烂家庭贱家长才生得出你这种下贱烂货,丢尽你全祖宗十八代脸。贴钱都没人要,呸!
你也没有多少日子了啦。

 

LOL!  You really are out of arguments if you choose such tirade!  

What makes you think that I'm older than you?

I am sure that you take more advantage of Asian boys, since you live in Asia.

 

Why you have to be so coward to write insults in Chinese?

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I cannot understand how you are so brainless.

Marriage relationships are not so 'holy' as you want to make them.  The divorce rate in the US is around 50%, and not much better in other countries.

But marriage should be a right for same-sex couples, deserving of the same status as mixed-sex couples.  This is not in discussion.

 

What the discussion you started is about is the MONOGAMY in a relationship.  

This is only a requirement in the minds of dumb sanctimonious people who have been brain-washed.

 

(NOTE: I have edited my previous post to make it clear that MONOGAMY here means "sex with only one partner",  not "marriage between only two people"...  just in case you want to argue that the law prohibits polygamous marriage)

 

We don't know for sure how monogamous our parents and other ancestors were.  Only recently can you find out if you are indeed the son of who appears to be your father, hahaha.

 

 

 

LOL!  You really are out of arguments if you choose such tirade!  

What makes you think that I'm older than you?

I am sure that you take more advantage of Asian boys, since you live in Asia.

 

Why you have to be so coward to write insults in Chinese?

 

The Chinese paragraph is nothing new, conveying the same message posted in English, dumb ass.

Coward? The Chinese text is there for you and everyone to comprehend, blame yourself for being incapable, incompetent and impotent. You are a total useless shameful wretch only know how to cry foul ! I am sure that's one of the reason why you're dumped.

 

You said you're dumped by people 20 odds years ago, that makes you at least 40+, or even 50+, AT LEAST! That's fucking OLD for someone keeps wanting irresponsible sex!

And with that pathetic age you still expecting to be younger than me? You really can shamelessly dream. Even if you claim you are 30, you are still older.

And why? Anyone who have access to internet and visit BW must be old rotten sex maniac? And youngster must abide and be manipulated by your shitty view? You must be thinking young guys are just as dumb as what you are 20 years ago. And expect everyone to worship you if you are from United States (who knows?). You thought this is still your 20th century 70s 80s?

Yes of course monogamous is dumb and silly misconceptions to you, because what can you do? Right? What can you bring to the table? What can you do when you are used, rejected and rotten just like leftovers which is to be dump-off only and no one gives a damn. Boo !

And if more people stay away from promiscuity you won't be able to feed your sexual craze.

 

As for the question about your parent which you've been dodging, you said the happy ones are those having open relationship. So again, are your parents having happy relationship?

Yes? They are sluts.

No? They are fucked!

So, your answer?

Answer, why don't you? Fear?  :whistle:

 

From all the posts you've made, we all know you are a waster, maggot, old selfish loser lusting for Asian boys because no one wants you.
And for someone who was dumped by others 20 years ago, even at a younger age, you are a damn fucked-up useless slut.
We can tell from your posts in other threads that you are totally lack of basic cognition. No?  :rolleyes:
Talking about brain-wash, you're the one keep pushing freak and half-fucked ideas all over the forum.
You can continue to dodge and argue but we know your time is up. If you are so sure about yourself, better don't shed a single tear.
What good can you do?
You think you need to answer that?  :whistle:
You think you need to prove your points?
You think you need to glamorize yourself here?
No problem, take it away. Where else can you go and what else can you do right, being so old, rotten and rejected?
 
 
And for the rest of us, do we want to dream of dodging loneliness by impractically hoping to have casual sex when we are as old as 5380 whore?
Well, the whore has been dreaming of such for more than 20 years. Has loneliness spared the promiscuous whore?
Obviously engaging in causal sex doesn't help (or rather, the incompetent whore is not getting any) and the whore must have been amused and entertained by arguing in here to deal with loneliness, so I shall not grant the whore's wish.
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The Chinese paragraph is nothing new, conveying the same message posted in English, dumb ass.

Coward? The Chinese text is there for you and everyone to comprehend, blame yourself for being incapable, incompetent and impotent. You are a total useless shameful wretch only know how to cry foul ! I am sure that's one of the reason why you're dumped.

 

Your Chinese paragraph is nothing new for my translator. 

And nothing like that you dumb ass posted in English.

 

You are a resented coward who cannot control your urges to insult.

Your posts are worthless because they do nothing but attack.

There is nothing positive in them.

 

Sam7566 is quite right in that one should ignore you. 

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For those who self depreciate cos of aging and being fat, u have a choice in taking care of yourselves through skin care and diet/exercising.

Remember, there's only lazy wo/men, there's no ugly wo/men.

There are ugly wo/men. No amount of excercising or skincare products will help unless they go for aesthetic surgeries. This is reality.

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Your Chinese paragraph is nothing new for my translator. 

And nothing like that you dumb ass posted in English.

 

Translator? No wonder we are seeing so many ridiculous signs lately everywhere. Another douche bag taking whatever on internet as their most definitive bible.
 
 

You are a resented coward who cannot control your urges to insult.

Your posts are worthless because they do nothing but attack.

There is nothing positive in them.

 

Really? An excuse to dodge from the question so you can get away from the guilt of being the cause of some tragic incidents?
 

 

 

 

Another troll post to be ignored.....

 

Sam7566 is quite right in that one should ignore you. 

 

 

I also know how you people react one. Simply label as troll so long as you can't face the facts, take the truth and admit your fault.
You fit the definition of a troll more than anyone else
The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help. Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll.
Pretend to give advice to everyone by saying open relationships is the answer to not feeling alone. Making everyone your victim by lobbying readers to engage in causal sex.
Claimed that you are from somewhere having satisfactory sexual activities with multiple partners, who knows you're deceiving?
 
 
And sam7566 , just because some of your virtual 'friends' left the scene in shame and guilt doesn't make the other parties troll. For what I see is they feel ashamed of themselves. Get your facts right.  <_<
 

For I never blindly label anyone as troll because I assume you're conscientious adult and I take whatever you said seriously, regardless how silly and ethically wrong you are. I supposed I should be the one ignore whatever you said.

 

 
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To add on that,

 

For I never claimed that readers must follow any practice or whatever I do is the solution.

I simply urged and demanded you to justify what you've said !

Sadly, you are unable to give any valid and convincing support of your points.

 

 

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