shrimps / prawns lover (aquatic - not for cuisine)

[deathblade88]

16 minutes ago, lovehandle said:

Deathblade, how do I add beneficial bacteria? sniff sniff

 

I am using seachem's stability. No specific water parameters before use.

 

For more shrimp specific setup, can try sl-aqua's purify or glasgarten's bacter AE.

 

You can refer to this video to understand more about beneficial/nitrify bacteria.

 

 

 

[lovehandle]

sniff sniff so touched

 

Let me digest abt it and i seriously dont think it s the algae cos it is not obvious to many

[lovehandle]

3 hours ago, deathblade88 said:

 

I am using seachem's stability. No specific water parameters before use.

 

For more shrimp specific setup, can try sl-aqua's purify or glasgarten's bacter AE.

 

You can refer to this video to understand more about beneficial/nitrify bacteria.

 

but deathblade

Aiyo u gave me such a technical video as though i m attending a Masters course in NUS leh
It is as though as i m setting a new tank
it said that there must have alot of oxygen (for those nitrifying bac) but mine has not much cos i do not have air pump....(is that why my new plant into the tank tend to have whithered/decayed leaves easily??)
Note: i do NOT have substrate/soil so does the fren who breed endlessly shrimps

[lovehandle]

10 hours ago, deathblade88 said:

I use nerite snails. FYI, they do not reproduce under normal freshwater setup.

 

For worms issue, sounds like your water condition is very bad. Please up your water change frequency and filter mantainence. Lastly, do not forget to add more beneficial bacteria.

In the past, the

worms will grow till q long, now it wont! It just auto vanish aft appearing 

anyway i wash my sponge over-the-tank filter once every week and the whole equipment once every 1.5week, m

i really lazy????

 

i doubt my frens bothered

[deathblade88]

1 hour ago, lovehandle said:

but deathblade

Aiyo u gave me such a technical video as though i m attending a Masters course in NUS leh
It is as though as i m setting a new tank
it said that there must have alot of oxygen (for those nitrifying bac) but mine has not much cos i do not have air pump....(is that why my new plant into the tank tend to have whithered/decayed leaves easily??)
Note: i do NOT have substrate/soil so does the fren who breed endlessly shrimps

 

That is why I choose to use seachem's stability.

 

"The bacteria used in competing products are inherently unstable. The conditions necessary for their growth and development fall into a very narrow range of temperatures, pH, organic loads, etc. When any of these parameters are not strictly within the proper range, the bacterial culture quickly crashes and dies. Stability® does not contain any of the aforementioned bacteria."

 

The whole idea about the bacteria is to help you reduce the level of NH₃, NO2 & NO₃. Google for "Nitrogen Cycle". This help you reduces the need of frequent water change.

 

In contrast, plants need carbon dioxide to survive.

[deathblade88]

3 minutes ago, lovehandle said:

In the past, the

worms will grow till q long, now it wont! It just auto vanish aft appearing 

anyway i wash my sponge over-the-tank filter once every week and the whole equipment once every 1.5week, m

i really lazy????

 

i doubt my frens bothered

 

What water you use to wash the sponge and equipment ?

[Coolbriz]

Prof, don't have to wash your filter so regularly. In this case, laziness helps! It's good to leave the filter untouched as the filter system itself will equilibrate with build up of micro-organisms that is beneficial for the efficiency of the filter. If you wash every week, it wIll be too "sterile" for any micro-organisms to establish.

 

So worm problem not a problem any more

[lovehandle]

dr shrimp, i saw the filter has greyish stuff on it

 

i really feel gaw wei not to wash it loh

 

And i m washing the cartridge inside(nt sure do u understand wat m i pointing to, something like this: hang over the tank

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=over+the+tank+filter&biw=375&bih=628&prmd=ivsn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=OQl0SpVHYMu5zM%253A%252CaWyvBa6xXBs1wM%252C_%253BCnpW8k8s0vPAVM%253A%252CDzpJ0IE_WXWfoM%252C_%253BlUh0qnwsZZL5XM%253A%252Cj38IRBZdzbRd0M%252C_%253BplDFjbW4OWHuBM%253A%252CJrS0Mr-Ghm-qbM%252C_%253Ba_dObNa57mYcRM%253A%252CaWyvBa6xXBs1wM%252C_%253BsDXYqWN5pmasgM%253A%252C_NCcER1G3_KjdM%252C_%253BGsMFmm5_5KqUjM%253A%252CygtjkH-EZ3iwZM%252C_%253Bzpp_1KrGQMNaSM%253A%252CyrRFzbUCUjFpSM%252C_%253B2V16INmcg4j4aM%253A%252CaVwJ49XbPIaI4M%252C_%253BHNv0USXpf9OzsM%253A%252Cie2MUrXrt1EGBM%252C_&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTg5e4rdnKAhWFCo4KHWQsC7AQ7AkIIw&usg=__Cv3oa_PzGlo5PAWEX7Cko7dfRVo%3D#imgrc=CnpW8k8s0vPAVM%3A&usg=__Cv3oa_PzGlo5PAWEX7Cko7dfRVo%3D)

 

i knw gd bacteria lies in the filter too

 

That s why i kept emphasizing there is no obvious algae in my tank but there seem to have freckles n spots forming on the tank(to an angmoh, they can accept freckles on their face, but i cannot)

i want it to b crystal clear

hence i started scrubbing.... To my frens, they felt nothing wrong to leave it as fd for the shrimps

 

i rem i saw someone having an algae tank ie 9/10  terrifying

if his is 9marks

 

mine is only 1mark loh

[lovehandle]

2 hours ago, deathblade88 said:

 

What water you use to wash the sponge and equipment ?

I hated deathblade for asking this qn: cos i knew wat he s driving at....

 

normal tap water(some will start shouting at me that this s commit suicide for the shrimps!!!!)

cos like i told u a friend of mine dont even bother w what aged water or to pour in those chlorine remover

 

she just used only tap water daily for her shrimps' tank

 

whereas i will age and add in remover 

 

 

 

so for washing, normal washing

and i will dip the cartridge/sponge filter into the aged water (sometimes) and then placed it back immed

 

 

some timids will dry lah

n let it dry for few days before ......

 

but who has the time to wait?

 

so deathblade wat water did u wash it with??? I really scrub and scrub

i need water and More water to ensure it s clean, no time for another water

 

daring right? My shrimps r hardy rt?

& 3 r pregnant now (judging from their back spine) but whether will there b miscarriages is another thing

[Coolbriz]

Yes prof I understand what you mean. I m also using those overhang filter. Yes I mean no need to wash even the cartridges frequently. If you must, do it once a month or two. 

 

Well I also use tap water to wash my filter haha. Ops.. 

[deathblade88]

10 hours ago, lovehandle said:

I hated deathblade for asking this qn: cos i knew wat he s driving at....

 

normal tap water(some will start shouting at me that this s commit suicide for the shrimps!!!!)

cos like i told u a friend of mine dont even bother w what aged water or to pour in those chlorine remover

 

she just used only tap water daily for her shrimps' tank

 

whereas i will age and add in remover 

 

 

 

so for washing, normal washing

and i will dip the cartridge/sponge filter into the aged water (sometimes) and then placed it back immed

 

 

some timids will dry lah

n let it dry for few days before ......

 

but who has the time to wait?

 

so deathblade wat water did u wash it with??? I really scrub and scrub

i need water and More water to ensure it s clean, no time for another water

 

daring right? My shrimps r hardy rt?

& 3 r pregnant now (judging from their back spine) but whether will there b miscarriages is another thing

 

@lovehandleWah lao.... i trying my best to help and yet you hate me. I will vanish from this thread forever then.

[lovehandle]

Dont go!!! Our shrimps need u! And dr.shrimp too

 

stay stay

 

 

my "hatred" is w inverted commas and luv is hate mah, kekekekekeke

[lovehandle]

@deathblade88

has not ans how he wash his equipment etc?

 

 

 

& by the way, my fren drew me a chart on nitrogen, nitrate for me to fully understand the water better

But

i hated chemistry, so i burnt it instantly

[deathblade88]

13 minutes ago, lovehandle said:

Dont go!!! Our shrimps need u! And dr.shrimp too

 

stay stay

 

 

my "hatred" is w inverted commas and luv is hate mah, kekekekekeke

 

What logic is this ?

 

打是疼，骂是爱 ?

[deathblade88]

15 minutes ago, lovehandle said:

@deathblade88

has not ans how he wash his equipment etc?

 

 

 

& by the way, my fren drew me a chart on nitrogen, nitrate for me to fully understand the water better

But

i hated chemistry, so i burnt it instantly

 

@lovehandleSo did you mix it with water and drink to fully digest it ?

 

Btw, I do not wash my equipments. I just let it rot.

 

All washing should always be done with the tank's water. Reason being chlorine will kill the bacteria that you had painstakingly built up over time.

[lovehandle]

4 hours ago, deathblade88 said:

 

@lovehandleSo did you mix it with water and drink to fully digest it ?

 

Btw, I do not wash my equipments. I just let it rot.

 

All washing should always be done with the tank's water. Reason being chlorine will kill the bacteria that you had painstakingly built up over time.

eeeee deathblade, u suan me loh


I usu will age some water for 1-2 days (though I felt tap water is PERFECTLY fine; but i really dont wish to risk having mosquitoes!!!) and drop in those chlorine remover
So after washing those eq/stuff, I will dip the sponge into the aged water (if I rem to do so), before using them...I use less and less chlorine remover nowadays so as to poison the WORMS (hence u don't see them grow LONGER, they will be poisoned since young)

 

I hope their first pregnancy (in my torturous tap water method) will be a successful delivery.......

[lovehandle]

Wanna see eggs??? From the (back) spine to legs now:

 

[Coolbriz]

My little baby shrimp, hope you will grow up healthy and strong!  

[lovehandle]

1 hour ago, Coolbriz said:

My little baby shrimp, hope you will grow up healthy and strong!  

 

 

Finally! Dr shrimp:

U finally got a baby!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

i m really happy for u!

 

For the benefit of others, alot have been asking (in forums and fb clubs) how to differentiate the gender of shrimps, hopefully  the simple diagram(copied fr elsewhere) helps!

 

[lovehandle]

More articles for your reading esp http://www.fishchannel.com/fish-health/freshwater-conditions/aquarium-freshwater-algae.aspx
 

Green Algae:
 Arguably a sign of good environmental conditions, green algae is rarely a pest because so many freshwater fish and invertebrates happily eat it. Occasionally, a planktonic green algae bloom turns the water green; this is more common in fish ponds than aquariums and is known as “green water.”

Algae-eating Fish and Invertebrates
A variety of topical fish, snails and shrimp are sold as algae-eaters for the freshwater aquarium. Most of these freshwater fish and invertebrates only eat green algae...

[lovehandle]

Hi

 

is this available in sg?

biOrb tank: my dream towards filterless

http://www.biorbfishtanks.com/4gallonbabybiorb-black-1.aspx

Diff sizes and models to choose from: but at least 4 gallon

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=biorb&biw=1366&bih=593&tbm=isch&imgil=0v1eeWNOR4CpSM%253A%253BZVGnFZ_UEl5OzM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.biorbfishtanks.com%25252Fbiorblife60.aspx&source=iu&pf=m&fir=0v1eeWNOR4CpSM%253A%252CZVGnFZ_UEl5OzM%252C_&usg=__gI0zA9UMWzG4rDlH1J_jMKooOl4%3D#imgrc=GG6BOt4ioaXn0M%3A&usg=__gI0zA9UMWzG4rDlH1J_jMKooOl4%3D

[deathblade88]

@lovehandle

 

 

This might help you in sustaining a healthy shrimp tank.

[lovehandle]

Tks deathblade
Sorry to make u dig this out for me
I heard of this twinstar! some LFS sells too

As shown in the video, the one without twinstar has very obvious algae : 7/10

My tank has not reached that stage probably 0.5/10 , mine is like water spot on the tank (or like raindrop), transparent/ translucent ie no-colour
(not even light green or pale green)

 

Hopefully I can achieve a filterless system - some even do it on jars
http://scapeclub.org/forum/showthread.php?12944-Curiosity-on-Filter-less-Shrimp-Tank-How-Is-it-Made
http://www.bcaquaria.com/forum/crustaceans-inverts-mollusks-23/do-cherry-shrimp-need-filtered-tank-8130/

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/88-shrimp-other-invertebrates/260250-filter-less-shrimp-tank.html
http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/showthread.php/20948-Need-advice-on-filterless-shrimp-tank

 

biorb : http://fishlore-fishlorecom.netdna-ssl.com/fishforum/images/imported/2011/10/314.jpg
 

Can EVEN let their plants GROW OUT OF TANK! GooDNESS
https://www.google.com.sg/imgres?imgurl=https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/55/60/ea/5560eaf4a77af67765889da682fa0d4d.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.pinterest.com/pin/485825878530938483/&h=800&w=600&tbnid=yPclrr4-vAzuaM:&docid=Rw4EhVPvtaqkzM&itg=1&ei=uSC3VpSEM8uQuASqzbDABg&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwjUxO74vOXKAhVLCI4KHaomDGgQMwgcKAEwAQ

 

 

 

 

and this will be one of the dish on my dining table: Prawns!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3572435286_18dec38ae1_o.jpg
http://www.herworldplus.com/sites/default/files/wealthy%20drunken%20prawns%20recipe.jpg
Happy new year to all! and pls live a life of 哈哈大笑

[lovehandle]

@deathblade88
Does your nerite snail help to eat up any larvae (mosquitoes -  a frequent guest of my friend's tank!) or worms?

Do they also gobble up newborn bb shrimps?

http://www.aquariumcarebasics.com/freshwater-snails/nerite-snails/#NeriteSnailEggs

[deathblade88]

5 minutes ago, lovehandle said:

@deathblade88
Does your nerite snail help to eat up any larvae (mosquitoes -  a frequent guest of my friend's tank!) or worms?

Do they also gobble up newborn bb shrimps?

http://www.aquariumcarebasics.com/freshwater-snails/nerite-snails/#NeriteSnailEggs

@lovehandle

 

Haven't heard of any nerite that eat anything else besides alage.

 

I also have them in my wondershrimps bottles. They are still very safe inside.

[Coolbriz]

May all shrimp hobbyists have a fruitful and joyous hobby this year!

Edited February 7, 2016 by Coolbriz

[lovehandle]

Wah Dr shrimp

 

ur chinese nt bad har

[Coolbriz]

Thanks prof for the compliment. Still far from yours  

 

You mentioned mosquito larvae found in yr friend's tank. That is actually worrying. If mosquitos can lay eggs and larvae are found, it means the tank is pretty stagnant. Hopefully it's a fish tank? 

Edited February 12, 2016 by Coolbriz

[lovehandle]

Why sometimes i fantasize or yearn for objects or living beings like a snail who can multi task is cos:

 

In many forums n sharings, they claimed tt their snails eat up their shrimpies, eat this n that loh

[lovehandle]

very 谦卑， Dr！
I expect v high standards of Chinese on myself, but will lower standard when facing Sporeans..... I create invitation cards  w poetic 对联 for guests attending my special CNY events: and they r mostly elder/snr than me so I expect them to appreciate (sorry but older Sporeans tend to have strong Chinese lang) eg
顽(wan) 猴闹春万户喜（xi），万(wan)灵猴儿永攀先(xi..an)
Not only that the ending words must rhyme, I even rhyme the first word too, it must be 应景 yet motivating/encouraging : it cannot be just about flowers and wealth or being very mercenary  花开富贵，钱财滚滚
also terms like lucky monkey "祥猴贺新岁" is not a creation and totally NOT poetic at all....it doesn't describe the characteristics of a monkey at all: monkeys r playful , mischievous  yet very sharp w their eyes

Back to shrimps: (she even described to me that when she on the light, she can see mosq flying out of the tank! her tank is larger than mine of course) Not stagnant leh she has pump and filter(I only have a over-the-tank filter) ， she claimed that she alwys keep it simple and plain/clean (and reminded me not to over decorate mine)
So hers cannot be stagnant leh:
hers also have worms (she said it comes w the wood/bark that she initially bought, but thrown liao) , anyway the fish she introduced ate them up! (hence I m surprised how could it be only me and she has worms)
her tank was a shrimp tank all along and until now too, but she introduced a small fish in to settle all the issues
Now she has NO more babies(shrimplets) cos all eaten up by that fish, in the past,(before the fish) there are still some babies, sad right?


 

[Coolbriz]

Ok I believe the snail won't really attack or prey on the molted shrimps. It's just that shrimps are extremely vulnerable after molting (just like 天蚕神功）and so they could even be preyed by their own kind. That's why it's important to have enough hiding places for them to harden their new bodies before they can 从出江湖. Thus, the snail happened to chance upon a vulnerable body that is most probably being preyed on earlier. Remember snails are also scavengers and they do feed on dead matter. 

 

With pump or filter running, yes water can't be stagnant. Unlikely that mosquitos will lay eggs. May be its not mosquitos? Not sure though. Worms I also have in my tank so I take it as part of the ecosystem. But definitely won't allow mosquitos lol

 

 

Edited February 8, 2016 by Coolbriz

[lovehandle]

5 minutes ago, Coolbriz said:

 It's just that shrimps are extremely vulnerable after molting (just like 天蚕神功）and so they could even be preyed by their own kind. That's why it's important to have enough hiding places for them to harden their new bodies before they can 从出江湖. Thus, the snail happened to chance upon a vulnerable body that is most probably being preyed on earlier. Remember snails are also scavengers and they do feed on dead matter. 

 

With pump or filter running, yes water can't be stagnant. Unlikely that mosquitos will lay eggs. May be its not mosquitos? Not sure though. Worms I also have in my tank so I take it as part of the ecosystem. But definitely won't allow mosquitos lol

 

 

but the fb and forums, a minority claimed that some snails (maybe too hungry) might prey on the shrimps...but it could be what u mentioned that the other shrimps ate up their own kind...
She mentioned about the mosq larvae many times till she bobian has to introduce the fish!!!!!!!!!!killing all the babies/shrimps........however, the funny thing is  there are still mosqs after keeping the fish for so LONG!
I don't dare to tell her , scarly the breeding of mosq is from elsewhere(tampines is a land of breeding ground!), other parts of her house

so funny:  "harden their new bodies before they can 从出江湖!!!!!!!!!!!" I luv your phrases! U Should open a shrimp-breeding class and then conduct lectures using this format! I will be your course administrator ok??

[Coolbriz]

Haha prof 太抬举后学了. Just someone who started learning about shrimps 何德何能open classes lol. 待后学闭关修炼出关后，方能与各位切磋武艺！

 

Yes, remember I was sharing about how disturbed I was when I saw my shrimps got preyed by others? It's usually when they molted and when they got too exposed, they got 围攻.. That's probably survival of the fittest at work..

Edited February 8, 2016 by Coolbriz

[lovehandle]

Yes I rem u shared before, but I was puzzled is that really true? I will check it out for u

[lovehandle]

U r rt! Dr. Shrimp

they say cannibalism is possible!

[Ergonova1991]

Have to beware of dragonflies nymphs!! It wiped out my shrimps before!!

[Coolbriz]

Interesting to have dragonfly flying into your tank. Must be very conducive for such rare ecosystem!

[Ergonova1991]

It happened to my friends too!! Have to be careful especially if you have those expensive shrimps haha

[lovehandle]

oooops, dragonfly? Ergonova, Do you live on a private land or near to greens/ponds around your place?

I live in highrise floor so lesser possibility , I assumed

[Ergonova1991]

No..either dragonflies flew in when I'm not around or there's eggs in whichever live plants or livestock that I bought from..

 

Sian now my tank is haunted by GSA

[lovehandle]

What is gsa???

[Ergonova1991]

Green spot algae / gsa

 

Anyway, I'm looking for 2L co2 tank with solenoid. Anyone happen to be selling can pm me, thanks!! 

[lovehandle]

Oh ergonova

 

Feel like calling u ah boy cos u looked very young!

Algae growing? Start cleaning them
Not too near sunlight  and don't on your (tank) light 24hrs (I don't even have a light over it)

I noticed when I throw in special food eg boil carrot for my shrimps, it will invite the growth of more algae(as shrimps cannot finished the food in one day time)...decided not to give them such food anymore
 

[Ergonova1991]

Oh haha I'm not young already lag lol. Ya might have to get nerite snails to eat up all the gsa

[lovehandle]

help help !

be it Dr shrimp or ah boy or deathblade,

 

I gave my mossballs to someone but it seemed like his fishes seemed to spread open the mossballs

is that possible?

 

Will nerite snails eat up those newly born shrimplets?

[deathblade88]

2 hours ago, lovehandle said:

help help !

be it Dr shrimp or ah boy or deathblade,

 

I gave my mossballs to someone but it seemed like his fishes seemed to spread open the mossballs

is that possible?

 

Will nerite snails eat up those newly born shrimplets?

 

@lovehandle Yup, quite possible.

 

As I mentioned b4, as far as I know nerite do not eat anything else except algae. 

 

The most they will feed on leftover fish food if not enough algae is present.

Edited February 15, 2016 by deathblade88

[Coolbriz]

wow prof got more and more exciting incidences coming in - fishes separating mossballs! Could it be that there are some fish food stuck in-between the mossballs and the fishes are trying their best to eat them and in the process tearing the mossball apart? The other possibility for fishes to be seen to touch the mossballs is that your friend is keeping algae eating fishes like Tilapia? haha. Don't worry Prof, Nerite snails are harmless. They can co-exist with the shrimplets  

[lovehandle]

2 minutes ago, Coolbriz said:

wow prof got more and more exciting incidences coming in - fishes separating mossballs! Could it be that there are some fish food stuck in-between the mossballs and the fishes are trying their best to eat them and in the process tearing the mossball apart? The other possibility for fishes to be seen to touch the mossballs is that your friend is keeping algae eating fishes like Tilapia? haha. Don't worry Prof, Nerite snails are harmless. They can co-exist with the shrimplets  

no no no, that is my friend's son s fish tank

Yes  it s again, another boy's I have been tellg my friend all those who rear fishes and shrimps are mostly males and esp in sg/ SE Asian, but in Europe / western ctries - a balance of females (but no1 seemed to believed in me)

His fish tank is only fishes, (ok the truth is I tear the mossball into half, before that there is worm issues, hence I tear it into smaller to manage it well) but my halved mossball is fine ah, nothing happened to my halved mossball and I even stuck/chop my ball (mossball) onto a stem to make it stand like a pong pong tree, it survive as a rounded mossball , just that I have recently removed it

They kept normal fish Of various species in their tank, not sure is tilapia inside it

Tks everyone for your prompt replies!

[Coolbriz]

lol yes yes yes, didn't mention prof tank at all. just saying prof got more and more exciting incidences to share..  Anyway, Tilapia is meant to be a joke as it is a big fish and I doubt that your friend's son fish tank is that big. So with more evidence revealed, there is also a possibility that after splitting the mossball into halves, the algae filaments got loosened and got no chance to re-establish while the fishes are tossing or brushing against it like a soccer ball  

 

[lovehandle]

yes slightly bigger than mine, but still way too small when compared to most of your

Ok got it