Pink dot event should no longer be allowed at Hong Lim Park

[Guest Concerned citizen]

It's troubling to read th at the number of attendees for pink dot this year has exceeded the capacity of Hong Lim Park. While I respect the right of the organizers to hold the event at a location where they deem fit, I am concerned about the risk of associated with a large turnout in a small area. 

 

 

I urge any concerned members of the public here to write in to their MPs or any relevant authority to ban pink dot from being organized in Hong Lim Park going forward. 

 

 

[doncoin]

13 minutes ago, Guest Concerned citizen said:

It's troubling to read th at the number of attendees for pink dot this year has exceeded the capacity of Hong Lim Park. While I respect the right of the organizers to hold the event at a location where they deem fit, I am concerned about the risk of associated with a large turnout in a small area. 

 

 

I urge any concerned members of the public here to write in to their MPs or any relevant authority to ban pink dot from being organized in Hong Lim Park going forward. 

 

 

 

You're absolutely right. Pink Dot should be held at a larger arena that can accommodate the growing numbers. It should be a location that everyone can attend, get press coverage to show how far the event has come. 

 

Yes, I think the community here should urge MPs allow Pink Dot to be held in a bigger space, and perhaps a parade down like so many other cities around the world. Good call Guest Concerned Citizen.

Edited June 5, 2016 by doncoin

[khanomjeen]

Suggestion a real Ching Gay Pride parade from hong lim park to orchard road on one of the days orchard road turns pedestrian.

 

So pink dot becomes Singapore Pride 2017

[lonelyglobe]

STB should be very happy and welcome this suggestion, after all it is so difficult to "sell' this country, nothing natural, nothing to see, nothing to do and everything so expensive...an orchard road gay parade with a 1, 2 day carnival or even a week's celebration is definitely going to bring in tons of tourist, increased income for the service sector from airlines, hotel, F & B, transport, shopping and it will creates more job opportunity for the country though temporary.

 

If two casino can be built on the base of providing more employment opportunity for workers, I don't see why the same cannot be applied to the gay parade / carnival. Around the world, countries are working hard to earn the pink dollars and when in come to this aspects, we became a third world country shunning all economical opportunities.

[Guest Meadow]

I was thinking meadow at gardens by the bay. 

[Guest Hmmm]

Somewhere beautiful and cosy that can accomodate large crowds of people.

 

In fact they should have a carnival to make it more fun and to attract straight people to attend and understand us better.

[lovehandle]

I don't wish to be a spoilsport

MAYBE there is really no need for us to parade ourselves : b it gay pride or pink dot?

Do u see straight men or women parade themselves on a particular date? like men dot, women s V day
we are just like them.........

There is NO need to envy other ctries like Taiwan, japan  at all


are u diff from the rest? -> ponder hard pls


Can u imagine one day, PRC and bangala has to parade themselves to make Singaporeans understand them better: they don't wish to leave their ctry/families to come to sg to be toilet cleaners and do construction or dish-washing ?
Those who mistaken the gays or discriminate people, should parade themselves! and present us an egg souvenir (so that we can choose to forgive - paint on the egg shell or throw at them)

Singapore and the world MUST develop ourselves into a more forgiving and inclusive society instead
- not allowing our emotions rise rampantly, similarly, BW should be in such manner too
Isnt pinkdot an event all about inclusive, understanding, caring and show compassion??? Or is it meant to tell the world , how great gays are?

[lovehandle]

U may want to combine all your suggestion:

or

 

[Guest Guest]

10 hours ago, lovehandle said:

I don't wish to be a spoilsport

MAYBE there is really no need for us to parade ourselves : b it gay pride or pink dot?

Do u see straight men or women parade themselves on a particular date? like men dot, women s V day
we are just like them.........
 

 

You like to use a lot of sarcasm on other people, but sarcasm itself is completely lost on you as if you are some kind of a dense black hole like that.

[Guest PoorTurnout]

And i thought this year turn out is much lesser than past 2 years.

The past 2 years population actually overflow the hong lim park.

No wonder there is no aerial pic on the turnout this year with comparison to past years.

No wonder the organiser says they focus on participation rate this year

[Guest Reverend]

1 hour ago, Guest PoorTurnout said:

And i thought this year turn out is much lesser than past 2 years.

The past 2 years population actually overflow the hong lim park.

No wonder there is no aerial pic on the turnout this year with comparison to past years.

No wonder the organiser says they focus on participation rate this year

 

Afterall, there is a limit to how many participants can be inside the park. If you go there, sit down and wait for the final formation, it can be very boring and meaningless. I suggest Pinkdot can turn itself to be a funfair event where we can enjoy a range of activities and raise fund for the less fortunate. In this way, the homophobic group cannot bark at us for doing a good cause!

[doncoin]

@lovehandle

I think a parade or some form of community action is required to raise awareness. The LGBT rights movement here in the USA would not have been possible if the LGBT community did not take a stand against police brutality in 1969 in what is historically known as the Stonewall Riots. 

 

Prior to that, being gay in the USA, was illegal and subject to harassment and persecution. So for the community to come together and take a stand, and exposing police brutality and making the general population aware that, yes, there are LGBT people, and we all experience the same hopes and dreams etc. 

 

So to me, Pink Dot is Singapore's way to let the population know that there are LGBT people, and we are no longer in hiding. Compare to even 20 years ago when I was growing up and living in Singapore, being gay is secretive and something to be ashamed of. Pink Dot serves as an affirmation to questioning youths that there are queer people like them out there, and life will get better. 

 

So, it is not just some parade, to get publicity. On many levels, it is a non-verbal message to the Singapore society that there are LGBT people, and they are part of the society. LGBT are just like everyone else. It normalises gay people versus demonising them. 

 

Because the society is NOT there yet, the LGBT community needs to stand together. Straight people don't have to simply because they already are. Think of Pink Dot this way, like a cultural or religious public holiday. It is a day you gather together with friends and family to celebrate. I.e. Christmas. You need not be a Christian, but you will partake in the festivities around the holiday. 

 

Perhaps in the future when being LGBT is no longer taboo and when society has evolved to the point that being different is simply accepted, then the need for Pink Dot will be irrelevant. For now, it is still the only rallying point for the LGBT community in SIngapore. 

[The_Bride]

The time when we no longer need Pink Dot is the time when the government allows Gay/Leabian marriage. But oh well, maybe Pink Dot can still be kept to commentate "Victory of Freedom To Love". I hope we will see that soon...but how soon, really depends on how we portay ourselves in the society. Everything starts from oneself.

[groyn88]

For Chingay 2010, the People's Association allowed members of the public to form their own marching contingent. 2 members of the local gay community, Kim and Roy, took the opportunity to form Singapore's first gay Chingay contingent. They were dressed in pink and waved the rainbow flag.
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2010/02/25/9681.putting-the-gay-back-into-chingay

Edited June 6, 2016 by groyn88

[lovehandle]

7 hours ago, groyn88 said:

For Chingay 2010, the People's Association allowed members of the public to form their own marching contingent. 2 members of the local gay community, Kim and Roy, took the opportunity to form Singapore's first gay Chingay contingent. They were dressed in pink and waved the rainbow flag.
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2010/02/25/9681.putting-the-gay-back-into-chingay

wow

good finding

[lovehandle]

9 hours ago, doncoin said:

@lovehandle

I think a parade or some form of community action is required to raise awareness. The LGBT rights movement here in the USA would not have been possible if the LGBT community did not take a stand against police brutality in 1969 in what is historically known as the Stonewall Riots. 

 

So to me, Pink Dot is Singapore's way to let the population know that there are LGBT people, and we are no longer in hiding. Compare to even 20 years ago when I was growing up and living in Singapore, being gay is secretive and something to be ashamed of. Pink Dot serves as an affirmation to questioning youths that there are queer people like them out there, and life will get better. 

 

So, it is not just some parade, to get publicity. On many levels, it is a non-verbal message to the Singapore society that there are LGBT people, and they are part of the society. LGBT are just like everyone else. It normalises gay people versus demonising them. 

Doncoin
hi!
I definitely understand why Pink dot is occurring yearly in sg, to create awareness

however there are either people who refuse to accept us or they are MORE now
Accepting others holding hand but nt my child, not my people please

Something worth highlighting
Younger parents like all my straight friends luv cai yiling, Zhang hui mei A mei, those Taiwanese singers or fans who watch some china/Taiwan production/drama that talks about such topic, hence they are MORE accepting but maybe not those older generation

 

hence,
Awareness is a thing but whether they can carry it out is another

How would one aware? if the person is not in the event

 

One knew there are an event in pink, all my friends started asking why are there a lot of pinkies in Chinatown area on last weekend
I explained to them

 

Maybe they are aware, but they could not accept and they are NOT in the event listening
(nowadays many have social media using smartphone, they knew it and they are aware but pls don't be on them)
so daily sharing is more impt than a yearly event eg in a library event
in a community/grassroot event etc
Do it on a daily occurrence basis, probably make it as naturally as possible
there are many ways to create awareness right?


I understand the history of gay pride in USA then, similar to actions taken by Martin Luther King about discrimination, they have to walk on the streets....

[Guest CHINGAY]

20 hours ago, groyn88 said:

For Chingay 2010, the People's Association allowed members of the public to form their own marching contingent. 2 members of the local gay community, Kim and Roy, took the opportunity to form Singapore's first gay Chingay contingent. They were dressed in pink and waved the rainbow flag.
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2010/02/25/9681.putting-the-gay-back-into-chingay

 

As the name suggest CHINGAY is a gay pride parade. PA is the organiser for our annual GAY PRIDE.

[doncoin]

12 hours ago, lovehandle said:

Doncoin
hi!
I definitely understand why Pink dot is occurring yearly in sg, to create awareness

however there are either people who refuse to accept us or they are MORE now
Accepting others holding hand but nt my child, not my people please

Something worth highlighting
Younger parents like all my straight friends luv cai yiling, Zhang hui mei A mei, those Taiwanese singers or fans who watch some china/Taiwan production/drama that talks about such topic, hence they are MORE accepting but maybe not those older generation

 

hence,
Awareness is a thing but whether they can carry it out is another

How would one aware? if the person is not in the event

 

One knew there are an event in pink, all my friends started asking why are there a lot of pinkies in Chinatown area on last weekend
I explained to them

 

Maybe they are aware, but they could not accept and they are NOT in the event listening
(nowadays many have social media using smartphone, they knew it and they are aware but pls don't be on them)
so daily sharing is more impt than a yearly event eg in a library event
in a community/grassroot event etc
Do it on a daily occurrence basis, probably make it as naturally as possible
there are many ways to create awareness right?


I understand the history of gay pride in USA then, similar to actions taken by Martin Luther King about discrimination, they have to walk on the streets....

 

@lovehandle

People had problems not too long ago for black people to have any rights. People had problems with women voting and in some countries still, today, women cannot drive or go out alone unaccompanied by a male relative. However, the world is progressing regardless of these people accepting or liking it or not. The ones against LGBT acceptance or rights will die out and be replaced with a new generation who are more open to diversity and inclusiveness. Change is happening everyday. 

 

I agree that raising awareness and education is important to society is a daily thing. Pink Dot is an annual event where the LGBT community and allies come together. Other than that, it is up to us as individual to show the rest of society we are no different than them. 

 

Personally, I don't think I am any different from my straight counterparts, other than I sleep with a man, have better tastes in shoes and am more obsessed with how I look naked. 

[lovehandle]

16 hours ago, doncoin said:

 

@lovehandle

People had problems not too long ago for black people to have any rights. People had problems with women voting and in some countries still, today, women cannot drive or go out alone unaccompanied by a male relative. However, the world is progressing regardless of these people accepting or liking it or not. The ones against LGBT acceptance or rights will die out and be replaced with a new generation who are more open to diversity and inclusiveness. Change is happening everyday. 

 

I agree that raising awareness and education is important to society is a daily thing. Pink Dot is an annual event where the LGBT community and allies come together. Other than that, it is up to us as individual to show the rest of society we are no different than them. 

 

Personally, I don't think I am any different from my straight counterparts, other than I sleep with a man, have better tastes in shoes and am more obsessed with how I look naked. 

kekekeke Doncoin
I think straights are not v particular about themselves once they are married or have a stable relationship

better taste in shirts and clothings for me

Lol!

I thk gays are MORE artistic
Generally gays got a terrifying death-stare, I felt


Anyway after hearing some suggestions about the:pinkdot this year and

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/foreign-entities-should/2852526.html

Pink dot should go off for one year and maybe pp will appreciate it