Guest Fuwar Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Guest Guest said: I wonder if calling others hate this and hate that, is itself an act of hatred. Is it not a fact that they hate us? Vometra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Two-faced slut Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Guest Guest said: I wonder if calling others hate this and hate that, is itself an act of hatred. Why? Because semantics. Lol. Twisting words around should be a crime. Calling a spade a spade isn't. Vometra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyo74 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 This person had threaten to murder. If he goes unpunished, more sadistic anti LGBT people will keep on threatening LGBT people. He try to twist his words. If the judge agrees to his twisted words than this kind of threaten to kill comment will spread to other race and religion as well since it becomes all right to threaten this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube3 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Vometra said: Totally agree. In fact, one can argue that Bryan Lim is "self-radicalised" by immersing himself in hate sites such as WAAPD and listening to incendiary sermons by hate preachers like LK. ISD should look into this. So, he is one of FCBC...? Or...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nature Lover Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Guest Giggly boobs said: He should be shipped to the amazon jungles together with Alice Fong so both sumos can 压 and flatten each other! Why let the Amazon be destroyed? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Update Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 http://mothership.sg/2016/06/friend-of-bryan-lim-defends-him-calls-him-a-man-of-strong-morals-and-character/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musctop Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 10 hours ago, Guest Guest said: I wonder if calling others hate this and hate that, is itself an act of hatred. Absolutely not. . Is a description and a very apt description. Just like describing others like this or hate that So stop supporting haters. Vometra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 6 hours ago, Cube3 said: So, he is one of FCBC...? Or...? Not too sure yet. But u dun have to be a member of fcbc, or even a Christian, to listen to LK's "sermons". LK is quite active online and on the social media in various guises, including waapd and LoveSingapore, I believe, which include Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The guy who defended Bryan, this Adrian Lin, actually has a rainbowed display pic! Did he rainbow it just before he posted the message? And who the hell talks like this? "a guy I've been willing to fight along side if our country went to war", "a man training to save lives on a battlefield". What's with all these macho war talk? spr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny7 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I fail to see what is taken out of context. Is there any other way to read what he wrote though? I'll be glad to hear his explanation other than his nonsense excuse as "debate". If he can quote anyone to use permission to open fire = debate. I will shut up. What he is in daily life and what he was in the past, has little bearing of what a person may commit in the future. Whenever you see someone defend a guy like him just post 2 words, Brock Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Macho Shit Is Disease Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 https://newrepublic.com/article/134270/hypermasculine-violence-omar-mateen-brock-turner The Hypermasculine Violence of Omar Mateen and Brock Turner Two violent men, two symptoms of the same sickness. BY LISA WADE June 14, 2016 America woke up this weekend to the news of the deadliest civilian mass shooting in the nation’s history. The senseless tragedy will undoubtedly evoke anger, sadness and helplessness. In the meantime, many will forget to think and talk about Stanford swimmer Brock Turner’s crime and his “summer vacation” jail sentence: three months for the vile sexual assault of an unconscious woman. As a sociologist, I was struck not by the abrupt shift to a new moral crisis, but by the continuity. Sociologists look for the bigger picture, and in my mind, Mateen’s crime didn’t displace Turner’s. Yet the media simply replaced one outrage with another, moving our attention away from Stanford and toward Orlando, as if these two crimes were unrelated. They’re not. Status, masculinity and sexual assault Brock Turner was an all-American boy: a white, Division I swimmer at one of the nation’s top universities. What he did to his victim was arguably all-American, too, confirmed by decades of research tying rape to a sense of male superiority and entitlement. I study sex on campus, where sexual violence is perpetrated disproportionately by “high-status” men – fraternity men and certain male athletes in particular. These men are more likely than other men to endorse the sexual double standard, believing that they are justified in praising sexually active men, while condemning and even abusing women who are less sexually active. They are also more likely to promote homophobia, hypermasculinity and male dominance; tolerate violent and sexist jokes; endorse misogynistic attitudes and behaviors; and endorse false beliefs about rape. Accordingly, athletes are responsible for an outsized number of sexual assaults on campus, and women who attend fraternity parties are significantly more likely to be assaulted than those who attend other parties with alcohol and those who don’t go to parties at all. Status, masculinity and violent homophobia Omar Mateen’s crime is related to this strand of masculinity. Mateen’s father told the media that his son had previously been angered by the sight of two men kissing, and reports claim that he was a “regular” at the Pulse nightclub and was known to use a gay hookup app. Anti-gay hate crimes, like violence against women (Mateen also reportedly beat his ex-wife), are tied closely to rigid and hierarchical ideas about masculinity that depend on differentiating “real” men from women as well as gay and bisexual men. Men who experience homoerotic feelings themselves sometimes erupt into especially aggressive homophobia. As the sociologist Michael Kimmel has argued, while we talk ad infinitum about guns, mental illness and, in this case, Islamic identity, we miss the strongest unifying factor: these mass murderers are men, almost to the last one. In his book “Guyland,” Kimmel argues that as many boys grow into men, “they learn that they are entitled to feel like a real man, and that they have the right to annihilate anyone who challenges that sense of entitlement.” He means “annihilate” literally. We now know that many boys who descend on their schools with guns are motivated by fears that they are perceived as homosexual and that attacking suspected or known homosexuals is a way for boys to demonstrate heterosexuality to their peers. It makes sense to me, as a woman, that men would fear gay men because such men threaten to put other men under the same sexually objectifying, predatory, always potentially threatening gaze that most women learn to live with as a matter of course. Being looked at by a gay man threatens to turn any man into a figurative woman: subordinate, weak, penetrable. That can be threatening enough to a man invested in masculinity, but discovering that he enjoys being the object of other men’s desires – being put in the position of a woman – could stoke both internalized and externalized homophobia even further. Meanwhile, gay men, by their very existence, challenge male dominance by undermining the link between maleness and the sexual domination of women. It’s possible that Mateen, enraged by his inability to stop men from kissing in public and struggling with self-hatred, took it upon himself to annihilate the people who dared pierce the illusion that manhood and the righteous sexual domination of women naturally go hand-in-hand. The common denominator Mass shootings, frighteningly, appear to have become a part of our American cultural vernacular, a shared way for certain men to protest threats to their entitlement and defend the hierarchy their identities depend on. As the sociologists Tristan Bridges and Tara Leigh Tober wrote last year for the website Feminist Reflections: This type of rampage violence happens more in the United States of America than anywhere else… Gun control is a significant part of the problem. But, gun control is only a partial explanation for mass shootings in the United States. Mass shootings are also almost universally committed by men. So, this is not just an American problem; it’s a problem related to American masculinity and to the ways American men use guns. Some members of the media and candidates for higher office will focus exclusively on Mateen’s Afghan parents. But he – just like Brock Turner – was born, raised and made a man right here in America. While it appears that he had (possibly aspirational) links to ISIS, it in no way undermines his American-ness. This was terrorism, yes, but it was domestic terrorism: of, by and aimed at Americans. I don’t want to force us all to keep Turner in the news (though I imagine that he and his father are breathing a perverse sigh of relief right now). I want to remind us to keep the generalities in mind even as we mourn the particulars. Sociologists are pattern seekers. This problem is bigger than Brock Turner and Omar Mateen. It’s Kevin James Loibl, who sought out and killed the singer Christina Grimmie the night before the massacre at Pulse. It’s James Wesley Howell, who was caught with explosives on his way to the Los Angeles Pride Parade later that morning. It’s the grotesque list of men who used guns to defend their sense of superiority that I collected and documented last summer. The problem is men’s investment in masculinity itself. It offers rewards only because at least some people agree that it makes a person better than someone else. That sense of superiority is, arguably, why men like Turner feel entitled to violating an unconscious woman’s body and why ones like Mateen will defend it with murderous rampages, even if it means destroying themselves in the process. And unless something changes, there will be another sickening crisis to turn to, and another sinking sense of familiarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Macho Shit Is Disease Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sorry, this format from here is easier to read. https://theconversation.com/two-violent-men-two-symptoms-of-the-same-sickness-60988 Two violent men, two symptoms of the same sickness June 14, 2016 8.00pm AEST America woke up this weekend to the news of the deadliest civilian mass shooting in the nation’s history. The senseless tragedy will undoubtedly evoke anger, sadness and helplessness. In the meantime, many will forget to think and talk about Stanford swimmer Brock Turner’s crime and his “summer vacation” jail sentence: three months for the vile sexual assault of an unconscious woman. As a sociologist, I was struck not by the abrupt shift to a new moral crisis, but by the continuity. Sociologists look for the bigger picture, and in my mind, Mateen’s crime didn’t displace Turner’s. Yet the media simply replaced one outrage with another, moving our attention away from Stanford and toward Orlando, as if these two crimes were unrelated. They’re not. Status, masculinity and sexual assault Brock Turner was an all-American boy: a white, Division I swimmer at one of the nation’s top universities. What he did to his victim was arguably all-American, too, confirmed by decades of research tying rape to a sense of male superiority and entitlement. I study sex on campus, where sexual violence is perpetrated disproportionately by “high-status” men – fraternity men and certain male athletes in particular. These men are more likely than other men to endorse the sexual double standard, believing that they are justified in praising sexually active men, while condemning and even abusing women who are less sexually active. They are also more likely to promote homophobia, hypermasculinity and male dominance; tolerate violent and sexist jokes; endorse misogynistic attitudes and behaviors; and endorse false beliefs about rape. Accordingly, athletes are responsible for an outsized number of sexual assaults on campus, and women who attend fraternity parties are significantly more likely to be assaulted than those who attend other parties with alcohol and those who don’t go to parties at all. Status, masculinity and violent homophobia Omar Mateen’s crime is related to this strand of masculinity. Mateen’s father told the media that his son had previously been angered by the sight of two men kissing, and reports claim that he was a “regular” at the Pulse nightclub and was known to use a gay hookup app. Anti-gay hate crimes, like violence against women (Mateen also reportedly beat his ex-wife), are tied closely to rigid and hierarchical ideas about masculinity that depend on differentiating “real” men from women as well as gay and bisexual men. Men who experience homoerotic feelings themselves sometimes erupt into especially aggressive homophobia. As the sociologist Michael Kimmel has argued, while we talk ad infinitum about guns, mental illness and, in this case, Islamic identity, we miss the strongest unifying factor: these mass murderers are men, almost to the last one. In his book “Guyland,” Kimmel argues that as many boys grow into men, “they learn that they are entitled to feel like a real man, and that they have the right to annihilate anyone who challenges that sense of entitlement.” He means “annihilate” literally. We now know that many boys who descend on their schools with guns are motivated by fears that they are perceived as homosexual and that attacking suspected or known homosexuals is a way for boys to demonstrate heterosexuality to their peers. It makes sense to me, as a woman, that men would fear gay men because such men threaten to put other men under the same sexually objectifying, predatory, always potentially threatening gaze that most women learn to live with as a matter of course. Being looked at by a gay man threatens to turn any man into a figurative woman: subordinate, weak, penetrable. That can be threatening enough to a man invested in masculinity, but discovering that he enjoys being the object of other men’s desires – being put in the position of a woman – could stoke both internalized and externalized homophobia even further. Meanwhile, gay men, by their very existence, challenge male dominance by undermining the link between maleness and the sexual domination of women. It’s possible that Mateen, enraged by his inability to stop men from kissing in public and struggling with self-hatred, took it upon himself to annihilate the people who dared pierce the illusion that manhood and the righteous sexual domination of women naturally go hand-in-hand. The common denominator Mass shootings, frighteningly, appear to have become a part of our American cultural vernacular, a shared way for certain men to protest threats to their entitlement and defend the hierarchy their identities depend on. As the sociologists Tristan Bridges and Tara Leigh Tober wrote last year for the website Feminist Reflections: This type of rampage violence happens more in the United States of America than anywhere else… Gun control is a significant part of the problem. But, gun control is only a partial explanation for mass shootings in the United States. Mass shootings are also almost universally committed by men. So, this is not just an American problem; it’s a problem related to American masculinity and to the ways American men use guns. Some members of the media and candidates for higher office will focus exclusively on Mateen’s Afghan parents. But he – just like Brock Turner – was born, raised and made a man right here in America. While it appears that he had (possibly aspirational) links to ISIS, it in no way undermines his American-ness. This was terrorism, yes, but it was domestic terrorism: of, by and aimed at Americans. I don’t want to force us all to keep Turner in the news. I want to remind us to keep the generalities in mind even as we mourn the particulars. Sociologists are pattern seekers. This problem is bigger than Brock Turner and Omar Mateen. It’s Kevin James Loibl, who sought out and killed the singer Christina Grimmie the night before the massacre at Pulse. It’s James Wesley Howell, who was caught with explosives on his way to the Los Angeles Pride Parade later that morning. It’s the grotesque list of men who used guns to defend their sense of superiority that I collected and documented last summer. The problem is men’s investment in masculinity itself. It offers rewards only because at least some people agree that it makes a person better than someone else. That sense of superiority is, arguably, why men like Turner feel entitled to violating an unconscious woman’s body and why ones like Mateen will defend it with murderous rampages, even if it means destroying themselves in the process. And unless something changes, there will be another sickening crisis to turn to, and another sinking sense of familiarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don't worry Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Guest Nature Lover said: Why let the Amazon be destroyed? :-( They won't destroy their natural habitat. Both are nearderthals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doctor Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Vometra said: The guy who defended Bryan, this Adrian Lin, actually has a rainbowed display pic! Did he rainbow it just before he posted the message? And who the hell talks like this? "a guy I've been willing to fight along side if our country went to war", "a man training to save lives on a battlefield". What's with all these macho war talk? He's a reservist medic, I see. That's even worse, you know. He should be saving lives, not taking them. And he should not be discriminating whose lives to save! I would not go to war with him. If anyone knows the link to Mr Adrian Lin's facebook page, please let me know. I would need to refute his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just now, Guest Doctor said: If anyone knows the link to Mr Adrian Lin's facebook page, please let me know. I would need to refute his point. https://www.facebook.com/Wolfgangs246 There you go, Mr. MO Cube3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc0805 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbitch Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 "... Bryan Lim is not the kind of guy who wishes violence on strangers for such petty reasons. Hes a man of strong morals and character. .." Unlike many of us here, I actually think this Bryan Lim is nothing more than an internet warrior who is dramatizing over his personal dislike of the LGBT population. However, even I find offense that someone would call these "reasons" "petty". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rainbow Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, kingbitch said: "... Bryan Lim is not the kind of guy who wishes violence on strangers for such petty reasons. Hes a man of strong morals and character. .." Unlike many of us here, I actually think this Bryan Lim is nothing more than an internet warrior who is dramatizing over his personal dislike of the LGBT population. However, even I find offense that someone would call these "reasons" "petty". He can be forgiven, but he can't go unpublished, even it is talk only, no action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gullible Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, kingbitch said: "... Bryan Lim is not the kind of guy who wishes violence on strangers for such petty reasons. Hes a man of strong morals and character. .." Unlike many of us here, I actually think this Bryan Lim is nothing more than an internet warrior who is dramatizing over his personal dislike of the LGBT population. However, even I find offense that someone would call these "reasons" "petty". You buy his friend's story? He can cook up any story to help him. So what if he had gay friends? May be mere acquaintances. There is a difference between being friends, friendly and mere PR-ing. Mateen omar also had gay "friends". Don't be that easily bought by all that ra-ra-ing machismo and demonstrations of brotherly love can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Vometra said: The guy who defended Bryan, this Adrian Lin, actually has a rainbowed display pic! Did he rainbow it just before he posted the message? And who the hell talks like this? "a guy I've been willing to fight along side if our country went to war", "a man training to save lives on a battlefield". What's with all these macho war talk? Oops..'strong morals and character' who wrote the post about 2 lesbians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 色即是空 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Appearances are deceiving. Please, don't even think about having sex with him. He may be HIV+ or STD plagued and may be wanting to exact revenge on gay persons who had spread to him through casual sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SGPorean Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Like I said, a (responsible) man has to answer for his own actions. What's more he is an adult, a married family man, a father. If we condone and nothing is done this time, we are indirectly encouraging future similar insensible acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 色即是空 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 In fact, i won't at all be surprised if many vocal supporters of waapd (warped wasps anyone?) are in fact hypocritically having gay sex secretly by the sides, unbeknownst to their wives, and verbally denouncing gays on a daily basis on the very public wall of waapd facebook page to mass deny, purge and exorcise their demons all at the same time. That may be where all that "hatred" are stemming from, grand but bullshit justifications notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Vometra said: The guy who defended Bryan, this Adrian Lin, actually has a rainbowed display pic! Did he rainbow it just before he posted the message? And who the hell talks like this? "a guy I've been willing to fight along side if our country went to war", "a man training to save lives on a battlefield". What's with all these macho war talk? Is this how Adrian expect his friends to spread words.. "eh, I don't know Bryan personally la..but hor..according to my friend Adrian, he is a man of strong morals and character.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Vometra said: The guy who defended Bryan, this Adrian Lin, actually has a rainbowed display pic! Did he rainbow it just before he posted the message? And who the hell talks like this? "a guy I've been willing to fight along side if our country went to war", "a man training to save lives on a battlefield". What's with all these macho war talk? "Not the kind of guy who wishes violence on strangers for such petty reasons" Well, Bryan doesn't think it is 'petty' at all..otherwise he won't be spending his time and energy on WAAPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny7 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) I feel people shouldn't just address this issue of "Homophobic dude tries to "open fire" at LGBT community". Rather it should have been "Homicidal dude tries to "open fire" at local community". If someone start a sentence with "Ns Man" "Swore to protect" "Permission to open fire" "die for their causes", and someone else can give me a new explanation from what I can comprehend, sure... MAYBE it is taken out of context (I don't even know how to come out with stories with all those writings to make any sense). This isn't about LGBT community, this is all about some dude believing in violence solution over his belief. Plus saying he's trying to open fire on LGBT community is a little out of context since he never mentioned them directly, but he did mentioned to open fire on certain people and let them "die for their causes". People who believe in violent solution should never roam the street. http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook Edited June 15, 2016 by kenny7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultra-Man Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, kenny7 said: I feel people shouldn't just address this issue of "Homophobic dude tries to "open fire" at LGBT community". Rather it should have been "Homicidal dude tries to "open fire" at local community". If someone start a sentence with "Ns Man" "Swore to protect" "Permission to open fire" "die for their causes", and someone else can give me a new explanation from what I can comprehend, sure... MAYBE it is taken out of context (I don't even know how to come out with stories with all those writings to make any sense). This isn't about LGBT community, this is all about some dude believing in violence solution over his belief. Plus saying he's trying to open fire on LGBT community is a little out of context since he never mentioned them directly, but he did mentioned to open fire on certain people and let them "die for their causes". People who believe in violent solution should never roam the street. http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11923290/orlando-shooting-gun-violence-us?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook You joined member 4 hours ago just to reply to dick question and then started vocally denying homophobia on the part of bryan? Oh then what is he doing in waapd then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny7 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Did I ever talk on behalf on him? Read properly thank you. If you fail to understand my point I make it simple, the guy is obviously a threat to any community given the willingness to open fire for his belief, LGBT or not, the guy should be investigated. PS: At least I bother to join as member 4 hours ago, though that wasn't the first post anyway. PS2: In Singapore, LGBT case will be hush away pretty quickly, just think about the Ian McKellen interview in Singapore, and how the news censored him totally, and hopefully this case won't be hushed away too. The guy is an obvious threat to anyone that is not of his belief. Edited June 15, 2016 by kenny7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Middle ground Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, kenny7 said: Did I ever talk on behalf on him? Read properly thank you. If you fail to understand my point I make it simple, the guy is obviously a threat to any community given the willingness to open fire for his belief, LGBT or not, the guy should be investigated. PS: At least I bother to joined as member 4 hours ago, though this wasn't the first post anyway. You almost. Well i felt you were muddling the water. There is no evidence he disliked any other group other than homosexuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny7 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Well, I'm just trying to point out that not to fall into the pit of LGBT claim in Singapore, the government will just hushed it up for blatant obvious reason. The only evidence needed is there is this guy that is willing to open fire to certain people to their death. Look a bit up on my first post, I make a comparison with his friend defending him with Brock Turner case, aka bullcrap. LGBT or not, this guy should be locked up if investigation showed he is a threat to anyone. Side note: Psycho people don't need to dislike any group to do psycho stuff, there are enough shooters out there that shoot people for no reasons. Edited June 15, 2016 by kenny7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sure Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, kenny7 said: Well, I'm just trying to point out that not to fall into the pit of LGBT claim in Singapore, the government will just hushed it up for blatant obvious reason. The only evidence needed is there is this guy that is willing to open fire to certain people to their death. Look a bit up on my first post, I make a comparison with his friend defending him with Brock Turner case, aka bullcrap. LGBT or not, this guy should be locked up if investigation showed he is a threat to anyone. Side note: Psycho people don't need to dislike any group to do psycho stuff, there are enough shooters out there that shoot people for no reasons. Not all shooters are completely psycho. Some are just mentally intense haters. Point taken anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest police Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 From what I can comprehend, once permission is given (from God?), he will get hold of AR15 rifle and go to Hong Lim Park... He should be put under 24 HR police surveillance and made to report to the police wherever and whenever he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny7 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Guest police said: From what I can comprehend, once permission is given (from God?), he will get hold of AR15 rifle and go to Hong Lim Park... He should be put under 24 HR police surveillance and made to report to the police wherever and whenever he went. ... I feel he shouldn't even roam on street at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Guest police said: From what I can comprehend, once permission is given (from God?), The permission can also come from a perceived earthly emissary of God, as is often the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KENZ Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just thinking aloud. Do you guys think that this incident could possibly be a set up or a diversion, that he becomes the scapegoat to draw attention away from certain religious or racial elements; especially so immediately after the US shooting? i mean the use of Social Media to manipulate the masses is actually quite effective. Any conspiracy theorist out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasleyLim Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 minute ago, KENZ said: Just thinking aloud. Do you guys think that this incident could possibly be a set up or a diversion, that he becomes the scapegoat to draw attention away from certain religious or racial elements; especially so immediately after the US shooting? i mean the use of Social Media to manipulate the masses is actually quite effective. Any conspiracy theorist out there? Oh this should be interesting. Pray tell who could set up this dastardly act to distract people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glyph Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just now, EasleyLim said: Oh this should be interesting. Pray tell who could set up this dastardly act to distract people. Did I just see the word "pray"? Ahuehuehue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny7 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) It is possible, but seems the case is about a week before the Orlando Shooting, I believe its June 4th. (Yes, I checked when it is first reported) So the real question is, when was Bryan Lim case first reported, is it before or after Orlando shooting? Edited June 15, 2016 by kenny7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 上帝的死者 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Vometra said: The permission can also come from a perceived earthly emissary of God, as is often the case. The likes of LK, #wearwhite leader, yang tuck yoong, rony tan. Especially LK, the self-labelled "apostle". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasleyLim Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Glyph said: Did I just see the word "pray"? Ahuehuehue. Yes you did. But don't tell anyone hor, it's part of a sekert liberal homosexualist agenda to corrode SG's wonderful Asian Values™ through foreign intervention. /s Edited June 15, 2016 by EasleyLim Cube3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don't pray pray Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Aiyoh stir some more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glyph Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 10 minutes ago, EasleyLim said: Yes you did. But don't tell anyone hor, it's part of a sekert liberal homosexualist agenda to corrode SG's wonderful Asian Values™ through foreign intervention. /s Jor sekret iz safa wif mee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nature Lover Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Guest Don't worry said: They won't destroy their natural habitat. Both are nearderthals! Oh gosh, pls do not insult the great Amazon, it is too beautiful for them. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deciferer Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 53 minutes ago, Glyph said: Jor sekret iz safa wif mee. Butt eye kan dsaifur jor sekret mehsage. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Social Psychology Patterns Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, kenny7 said: It is possible, but seems the case is about a week before the Orlando Shooting, I believe its June 4th. (Yes, I checked when it is first reported) So the real question is, when was Bryan Lim case first reported, is it before or after Orlando shooting? Good question. Who has an answer? Whether before or after, it is not merely just coincidence. With earlier reported rising religiosity not just in Singapore, not surprisingly there will be more people like Bryan Lim with such sentiments around in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trashy Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Guest Nature Lover said: Oh gosh, pls do not insult the great Amazon, it is too beautiful for them. :-) Find them a wasteland. That's where trashes should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamziz Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Side track a bit. A research by Harvard Study Reveals that All Homophobic People are Gay - https://youreadygrandma.com/2015/04/16/harvard-study-reveals-that-all-homophobic-people-are-gay/ Are we seeing more of such case? - Antigay pastor accused of child pornography possession - http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/05/antigay-pastor-accused-child-pornography-possession/ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 善待对人。麻烦用英文来表达信息。不是每个人都会看的懂中文 。| “People need to learn the art of making an argument. Often there is no right or wrong. It's just your opinion vs someone else's opinion. How you deliver that opinion could make the difference between opening a mind, changing an opinion or shutting the door. Sometimes folk just don't know when they've "argued" enough. Learn when to shut up." ― J'son M. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ar dan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 arberdan.... Juz go l@@k @ ore der ghey faces in waapd.... Zzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Decipherer Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 34 minutes ago, Guest Ar dan said: arberdan.... Juz go l@@k @ ore der ghey faces in waapd.... Zzzzzzzzzzz Aber then... just go look at all the gay faces in WAAPD... (last part Zzzzzzzzz very difficult to decode leh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bullshit Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 crock of bullshit from the church of hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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