fmen Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) Hong Kong gym chain California Fitness seeks buyer as it faces winding up petition Company’s troubles deepen two months after it was named and shamed for intimidating sales practices The troubled California Fitness gym chain is looking for a buyer as it faces a winding-up petition from a creditor. This comes just two months after it was rapped by the city’s consumer watchdog for using intimidation and misleading sales practices on customers. The firm – formally known as JV Fitness and which also trades as mYoga and Leap – said in a statement: “The company is currently in negotiation with potential buyers for the acquisition of its business or shareholdings.” Top gym chain California Fitness in trouble again after customer allegedly tricked into HK$140,000 payment It assured customers that operations would carry on as normal “until further notice”. A High Court document on Tuesday showed the petition was filed by BeSpark Technologies Engineering, solely owned by Wong Ping-kuen, who until May was a JV Fitness director. The amount that JV Fitness, one of the city’s biggest gym operators, owes the creditor is not immediately known, but a hearing date has been scheduled for August 31. California Fitness, which opened its first gym in Hong Kong in 1996, currently has nine branches in the city and 15 centres across Asia. While mYoga boasts two branches, Leap, a community version of California Fitness, has one. An investigation by the South China Morning Post reveals that four directors – Wong, Cheng Wai-hong, Cheng Kar-tat, and Chan Wai-man – departed one after another between April and May. The Company Registry shows that Wong joined as a director in December last year. In April, California Fitness was publicly named and shamed by the Consumer Council. The council said the number of complaints lodged against the fitness chain increased by 30 per cent to 296 cases in 2015. The figure accounted for 51 per cent of all complaints the council received. Among them, 22 cases involved over HK$100,000 each, and in one case HK$570,000. Hong Kong Consumer Council names and shames California Fitness for aggressive sales practices The council said earlier that half of the complaints against the gym chain were lodged by new members who claimed they were pressured or misled into signing membership agreements, with one of the most common practices being lucky draws or free trials. Customers would then face hard-sell tactics or be lured into providing their bank card information for transactions without their consent, the council alleged earlier. California Fitness was also earlier under fire for allegedly forcing a mentally challenged man to pay for fitness courses and take out loans totalling HK$90,000. Barrister and lawmaker Dennis Kwok warned that if the chain went bankrupt, gym-goers might lose their membership fees. “General customers come last,” he said, of the aftermath of a winding-up order being granted. A Consumer Council spokesman said customers should avoid paying large subscription fees in one go as they could lose their money should the gym chain close. http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1982745/hong-kong-gym-chain-california-fitness-seeks-buyer-it-faces Edited June 11, 2017 by fmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmen Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Group in talks with California Fitness as liquidation sought A group of investors is said to be interested in taking over the businesses owned by gym chain operator JV Fitness, which runs California Fitness, after one of the company’s shareholders filed a petition with the High Court seeking its liquidation. A source told the Hong Kong Economic Journal that the group has been talking with the company since three weeks ago to acquire its businesses in Hong Kong and the mainland. It has offered HK$100 million (US$12.89 million) for the deal. Negotiations are now in the final stages, the source said, adding that both sides were set to meet again on Wednesday afternoon. Bryan To, owner of FFG Martial Arts & Fitness Center who the source said is the leader of the group, declined to comment on the rumor. But California Fitness, which JV Fitness operates along with nine other fitness clubs in Hong Kong, has confirmed that talks about an acquisition or stake sale with some potential investors are going on. According to the source, the investor group will not make the acquisition in the name of FFG but it is likely to resell the acquired businesses to FFG in the future. In April the Consumer Council reprimanded California Fitness after its marketing staff were accused of intimidating and misleading customers to sign up for membership and high-priced private lessons. Aside from California Fitness, JV Fitness also operates yoga club mYoga and Leap fitness centers. It has 12 branches in Hong Kong, and runs several units in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou. Details of the writ of liquidation filed by BeSpark Technologies Engineering are not clear, but a hearing has been set for Aug. 31. Businessman Wong Ping-kuen is a major shareholder of the engineering company and was a board member of JV Fitness until he resigned in May. A legal expert said a company can sell its equity before the liquidation process officially begins but not afterwards unless there is shareholder approval. http://www.ejinsight.com/20160629-group-in-talks-with-california-fitness-as-liquidation-sought/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 物渣。 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 They have been training and forcing their marketers and sales persons to be totally unscrupulous for many years. Surprised there are people who will still trust them - are they luddites? Do they even belong to civilisations? With all the badwill accumulated, they are not going to worth much after liquidation. $12 million is cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmen Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) 【加州清盤】前董事PK Wong 申請California 清盤 會籍或凍過水 经营California Fitness、Myoga及Leap健身连锁店的J.V. Fitness Ltd，日前遭镁灿科技工程有限公司入禀高等法院申请清盘，案件已排期至8月31日聆讯。 根据资料显示，呈请公司镁灿科技工程有限公司主要经营批发工程设备安装及维修，但原来镁灿科技的唯一董事，人称“PK Wong”的王炳权，也曾在经营California Fitness、Myoga以及Leap健身连锁店的J.V. Fitness Ltd担任董事。 根据公司注册处资料显示，J.V. Fitness原董事吴伐及徐翠玲，早已在去年12月辞任；公司当时委任四名新董事分别为王炳权、郑家达、陈惠敏以及郑伟康，但四人分别于今年4至5月份先后辞任。目前，公司只余公司秘书王伦，王伦乃于今年五月初委任，而王伦跟王炳权，原来是兄弟关系。 与此同时，J.V. Fitness公司地址亦由原来位于九龙湾地址，于六月中转新地址至屯门。事有凑巧，镁灿科技注册地址，与J.V. Fitness之前登记位于九龙湾的地址一模一样。而J.V Fitness目前是由一间Nova Investments Asia Limited的BVI公司持有。 对于怀疑“自己清自己盘”行为，港大法律学院首席讲师张达明表示，此为商界惯常手法，若成功清盘，J.V. Fitness旗下公司会籍或套票，随时冻过水变墙纸。张称，提出清盘申请人士可以是股东自己或是债权人，正如“一个人申请破产，都系自己Bankrupt自己。” 至于镁灿科技若是J.V. Fitness的债权人，绝对有权申请清盘。他表示，法庭决定是否委任独立临时清盘人，不会考虑申请人士背后动机，只视乎是否附合法例要求。不过，有清盘专家表示，当有人提出清盘申请时，所有股权变动都要暂停。 張達明又表示，一旦清盤，臨時清盤人會接管並變賣公司資產，於清償債權人債務時，亦有優次之分，消費者作為無抵押債權人，排在清盤公司僱員、政府、有抵押債權人例如銀行等之後，因此已售套票持有人，很大機會獲不足額賠償，甚至冇得剩。 http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/finance/20160628/55289352 Edited June 29, 2016 by fmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmen Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) 39 minutes ago, fmen said: 自己清自己盘 will such thing be allowed in Singapore ? J.V. FITNESS PTE LTD Registration No.: 199706377R J.V. FITNESS PTE LTD was incorporated on 11 September 1997 (Thursday) and as of 11 September 1997 (Thursday) is a live limited private company. This limited private company have been operating for 18 years 292 days. Their principal activity is operation and management of fitness centres. It's registered address is at the NOVENA SQUARE building. Registration No. 199706377R Name J.V. FITNESS PTE LTD Related .SG Domain Name californiafitness.com.sg Date Incorporation / Registration 11 September 1997 (Thursday) Registration Type LIMITED PRIVATE COMPANY Status Live Company as of 11 September 1997 (Thursday) Registered Address 238B THOMSON ROAD #05-01/08 NOVENA SQUARESINGAPORE (307685) Edited June 29, 2016 by fmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermit Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 This is displayed at Hong Kong Whampoa Club: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest See kiao kiao Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 2 hours ago, hermit said: This is displayed at Hong Kong Whampoa Club: Must be shut down aircon, electricity and water due to them unable to pay the rent. Doubt their shutters will ever reopen again. What a sad demise but on a positive note, good riddance to their unscrupulous membership package sale practise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 This is about California Fitness in Hong Kong. The franchise there is under immense pressure to wind up. I hope this franchise is NOT linked to the local one. Today one of their branches in Whampoa 黄埔 suspended its operation. http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1982745/hong-kong-gym-chain-california-fitness-seeks-buyer-it-faces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Halo Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Lucky I haven't paid my membership fee in advance for next year yet, wonder how long Singapore branches will last due to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inbody123 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Every year we have rumours California SG will shut ! Every time the rumours were untrue. I hope California Gym will not shuttered it's doors. My buddies are there and I love the GX classes ! ( Lynette, Tina, Clement, Debra, Waihan, Toni, Toshie, Roger, Tomomi, etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fatty Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, inbody123 said: Every year we have rumours California SG will shut ! Every time the rumours were untrue. I hope California Gym will not shuttered it's doors. My buddies are there and I love the GX classes ! ( Lynette, Tina, Clement, Debra, Waihan, Toni, Toshie, Roger, Tomomi, etc etc) Love the cruisy steam sauna and showers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Group X slut Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 2 hours ago, inbody123 said: Every year we have rumours California SG will shut ! Every time the rumours were untrue. I hope California Gym will not shuttered it's doors. My buddies are there and I love the GX classes ! ( Lynette, Tina, Clement, Debra, Waihan, Toni, Toshie, Roger, Tomomi, etc etc) Waihan that OLD BITCH is still there? Confirm shutting then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Group x slut Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, Guest Group X slut said: Waihan that OLD BITCH is still there? Confirm shutting then! Otherwise she will confirm spread her herpes to others - members and group x instructors alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Group x bitch Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Guest Group x slut said: Otherwise she will confirm spread her herpes to others - members and group x instructors alike. I do know her - she's a major slut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermit Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 California FITNESS財困 近60健身教練追欠薪 警接報持盾牌了解 http://m.mingpao.com/ins/instantnews/web_tc/article/20160707/s00001/1467886890396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Halo Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 More than 1,000 California Fitness members in Hong Kong plan collective action to demand refund California Fitness faces angry backlash from members after sudden move, while three customers make formal police complaint http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/education-community/article/1985551/more-1000-california-fitness-members-hong-kong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ass Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 HK PTs have went report police for salary owed to them. One branch in Hk shut down suddenly. Beijing California also closed shop. Matter of time for Singapore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermit Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Financial woes of Hong Kong gym chain California Fitness spread to mainland China with Beijing branch shutting its doors http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/economy/article/1987145/financial-woes-hong-kong-gym-chain-california-fitness-spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 will the singapore side close down given the high rentals here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 2 senior execs at troubled @CaliforniaFitHK arrested, follows more 180 complaints over branch closure in Hung Hompic.twitter.com/7hb61qeA1U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superflawless Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I hope this issue is contained within Hong Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Group x whore Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 44 minutes ago, superflawless said: I hope this issue is contained within Hong Kong. I hope it spreads to sg. They are equally ruthless, if not worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum1outhere_03 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Guest Group x whore said: I hope it spreads to sg. They are equally ruthless, if not worse! Not sure how it will spread to SG, may have negative impact though. Here's the news: http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1988354/two-california-fitness-senior-executives-arrested-suspicion Will you be my valentine's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Censor me pls i'm radical Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Like the sim lim square scams, local authorities and spf closed one eye since the 80s despite hundreds of complaints lodged to both case and the police - but only until recently where they took action with a 22 officer raid followed by an internal award given to chief io of the case. California gym here is famous for their hardsell and unscrupulous tactics too. I'm sure spf is sleeping on their job again in this case, especially when it's a mega gym this time. Imagine assembling a 100 officer team just to raid their hq in novena due to all the well built personal trainers there. During the little india riot all but one police officer pushed to the frontline; the rest were all kiasi and hiding in the police vans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdu Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/2-california-fitness/2948104.html Reported in CNA. China also close one branch. But hard to say leh. Coz it is the same company name JV fitness. If there is class action suit in HK and mass resignation then implications will be there to the China and SG ops.... Edited July 11, 2016 by jdu Extra comment. Life is like a river flowing into the sea, Love Life. Love, Joy and Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Censor me pls i'm radical Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, Guest Censor me pls i'm radical said: Like the sim lim square scams, local authorities and spf closed one eye since the 80s despite hundreds of complaints lodged to both case and the police - but only until recently where they took action with a 22 officer raid followed by an internal award given to chief io of the case. California gym here is famous for their hardsell and unscrupulous tactics too. I'm sure spf is sleeping on their job again in this case, especially when it's a mega gym this time. Imagine assembling a 100 officer team just to raid their hq in novena due to all the well built personal trainers there. During the little india riot all but one police officer pushed to the frontline; the rest were all kiasi and hiding in the police vans. 22 police officers in a single shop raid to nab one Jover chew! Imagine that. Epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Censor me pls i'm radical Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Guest Censor me pls i'm radical said: 22 police officers in a single shop raid to nab one Jover chew! Imagine that. Epic fail. And five officers to arrest the poor lower secondary school boy benjamin lim in his school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmen Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Two California Fitness staff arrested amid threat of workers’ strike 11 July 2016 18:38 Gene Lin 2 min read Two senior staff at troubled fitness chain California Fitness have been arrested by Hong Kong customs under the charge of violating the Trade Descriptions Ordinance on Monday. Customs arrested a 57-year-old man, a company secretary, and a 45-year-old woman – a manager. They are suspected of failing to provide services to customers who had paid for fitness club memberships and personal trainer sessions. California Fitness has been mired in controversy since the indefinite closure of its Whampoa branch last month. A liquidation request is being launched against JV Fitness, which operates the chain. The hearing will take place on August 31. Two senior staff of California Fitness under arrest. Photo: Apple Daily Screenshot. The two arrested individuals have been released on bail pending further investigation. According to a government press release, the maximum penalty for violating the Trade Descriptions Ordinance is a fine of HK$500,000 and imprisonment of five years. Management staff are liable whether the offence was committed with their consent or it arose due to their neglect, said the release. Coaches and staff working at California Fitness meet to discuss action against the company. Photo: Apple Daily. Lawmaker Tang Ka-piu, who represents the Labour functional constituency, convened a meeting of around 300 California Fitness staff on Sunday to discuss an action plan against the gym chain. Concern groups such as the Hong Kong Recreation and Sports Professional General Union and the Hong Kong Beauty and Fitness Professional General Union were present at the meeting. After the meeting, Tang said that staff at the troubled gym chain have decided to issue a public letter demanding that California Fitness provide answers regarding the staff’s overdue wages, the company’s financial condition and its future course of action within 48 hours. The group threatened to go on strike if the company fails to meet their demand before the deadline. A California Fitness branch. File photo: Apple Daily. Tang said California Fitness staff were concerned that the company would not be able to deliver their wages on July 15 as it had already failed to do so on July 1. The Labour Department said that investigation regarding cases of overdue payment at fitness centres under JV Fitness is still ongoing. The Consumer Council said they have received 327 enquiries and 128 complaints concerning JV Fitness as of Monday. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/07/11/two-california-fitness-staff-arrested-amid-threat-of-workers-strike/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Locker 64 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 4 hours ago, sum1outhere_03 said: Not sure how it will spread to SG, may have negative impact though. Here's the news: http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1988354/two-california-fitness-senior-executives-arrested-suspicion Remember California Gym Singapore closed its Orchard Road Ngee Ann City branch earlier this year? What were the reasons given, are they valid? I think the closure could be due to high rental and probably a sign of things to come ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 13 minutes ago, fmen said: Two California Fitness staff arrested amid threat of workers’ strike 11 July 2016 18:38 Gene Lin 2 min read Two senior staff at troubled fitness chain California Fitness have been arrested by Hong Kong customs under the charge of violating the Trade Descriptions Ordinance on Monday. Customs arrested a 57-year-old man, a company secretary, and a 45-year-old woman – a manager. They are suspected of failing to provide services to customers who had paid for fitness club memberships and personal trainer sessions. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/07/11/two-california-fitness-staff-arrested-amid-threat-of-workers-strike/ When the Orchard branch closed, couldn't it be also construed as "failing to provide services to customers who had paid for fitness club memberships"? Too bad this is not HK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Disgusted Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 50 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: When the Orchard branch closed, couldn't it be also construed as "failing to provide services to customers who had paid for fitness club memberships"? Too bad this is not HK.... They're unethical, irresponsible and most of all, unscrupulous! Good riddance! Personal trainers there especially the later ones are mostly the rogue types. Morally reprehensible and repulsive gym chain! Group x instructors are slutty and shameless too. I say it here again: good riddance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Disgusted Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Calling themselves california fitness when it is from hk is already dishonesty right from the beginning! 挂羊头卖狗肉, extremely cheap, slutty, low class and dishonest gym! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 The staff may get their unpaid salary as they usually have priority. For the trainers, if they are not employees, but freelancers, then too bad, they rank with other unsecured creditors. If the company has huge liabilities to other parties, then the pro rata portion going to small time creditors will be hardly anything. Members will probably be unsecured creditors, as I've not heard of any special consumer protection. So people, buy packages at your peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LOL Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 California Fitness always phoned me to ask me to try out their free 7 days trial. When I asked how they got my number, they said it was a referral from one of my friends. When I ask the name of my friend that referred me, they said my friend requested to be anonymous. LOL. So obvious they bought phone details from some information sourcing company and decided to do cold calls. Tsk tsk hard selling tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OMG Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 They called to invite me to their annual prom party two years after i terminated my membership and i turned them down. Bunch of overly glib, insincere, desperate leeches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmen Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hong Kong’s struggling California Fitness chain to ‘shut down’ on Tuesday Written announcement circulated among staff says the gym chain and two sister companies are closing their doors PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 12 July, 2016, 2:48am UPDATED : Tuesday, 12 July, 2016, 8:13am Chris LauDanny Mok Struggling California Fitness is shutting down on Tuesday along with sister centres mYoga and Leap in what could be the end of the road for the gym chain, according to a company announcement being circulated among staff last night. A source showed the Post a notice dated July 12 informing staff that all outlets under JV Fitness, which runs 12 gym centres under the three companies, would cease operations effective on Tuesday until further announcements. Two California Fitness senior executives arrested on suspicion of flouting Hong Kong’s trade descriptions law The notice said operating capital had been frozen in light of a pending winding-up petition and the group would have to close business because it was short of cash. “Should there be new updates, the group will make public announcements,” it said. Since its Whampoa outlet closed last Monday, California Fitness has been hit by more trouble, putting what the Postunderstands to be 100,000 members and 500 employees in limbo. An employee who spoke on condition of anonymity said: “So many colleagues are going back to the gyms to pick up their stuff.” Local media reported later in the night on Monday that the same notice had been posted at the gates of some branches. Sweating it out: Hong Kong California Fitness members can only wait and hope Separately, the Post was also shown an email purportedly signed by Wong Lun, the sole director of JV Fitness, asking staff to “keep clubs’ doors shut properly”. By doing so, the email informed them, their belongings could be returned once the winding-up procedures had been activated. “We are sorry, and thank you,” the email said. Wong is being currently sought by the Customs and Excise Department, as the Post understands, after two senior executives were picked up by the department on suspicion of violating the city’s trade description law against false advertising of goods and services. The chain’s Shanghai branch will close from today as well. The announcement came days after California Fitness shut its Beijing branch citing “internal reorganisation” from last Friday. But it reopened on Monday. A notice posted by the company at Shanghai Plaza on Huaihai Zhong Road, Lu Wan district, on Monday said it would close temporarily from today, again for “internal reorganisation.” It advised customers to pay attention to its website and social media, or to call directly, for the reopening day. Financial woes of Hong Kong gym chain California Fitness spread to mainland China with Beijing branch shutting its doors http://www.scmp.com/topics/california-fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gleeful Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Yes! Champagne popped. Popcorn mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmc Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I was forced to sign up for 1 year when I tried to redeem 1 month Groupon voucher in CF Bugis branch. I was cornered in a L-shaped sofa by 2 persistent staffs who spent 1 hour to brainwash me. They say they will give me 13 months (1 month Groupon + 12 months package) for the price of 8 or 9 months (forgot how many already) but in the end I only got 12 months. They conveniently forgot about the 13th month. They also forced me to sign up for personal trainer. That very day I paid around $2000. My mum was furious when she found out and nearly had a nervous breakdown. In the 12th month they ask me whether I want to renew. I said no. A few weeks later, CF Orchard branch closed down. And now this (the HK saga) happens... Luckily I didn't renew. Although the facilities and group classes are good, the mental stress on the 1st day and the guilt for the next 1-2 months still haunt me until today. I can say that Cali Fitness finally gets its karma for its aggressive and dishonest practices. But I feel so sorry for those in HK who already paid their fees in advance and now cannot get anything back. gc0805 and bonhomie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Perplexed Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Like NUM, they over-expanded? Scammed so many innocent people still cannot pay rent. Their bosses siphoned money like kong hee is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abang Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Lesson learnt ..never carry bank cards and credit cards when visiting those "unbelievable" offers from renowned gyms, beauty/slimming/haircut saloons. If you show them you have only $30 in your wallet, they should leave you alone. Personal experience.. I was conned (by an ex-colleague) to get a free beauty/slimming consultation by Expressions Dhoby Ghaut some ten years ago. She wanted to boost her sales figures and I only agreed to help her once. At the shop, the staff-in-attendance tried to "persuade" me to buy 20 sessions of slimming when I was in my underwear. That was really awkward, right? A charbo trying her best to sell the product while I was semi-naked. Good thing I am gay ..(if not, she might throw herself at me...). That day, I left my wallet at home so the damage was ZERO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Local boy Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, abang said: Lesson learnt ..never carry bank cards and credit cards when visiting those "unbelievable" offers from renowned gyms, beauty/slimming/haircut saloons. If you show them you have only $30 in your wallet, they should leave you alone. Personal experience.. I was conned (by an ex-colleague) to get a free beauty/slimming consultation by Expressions Dhoby Ghaut some ten years ago. She wanted to boost her sales figures and I only agreed to help her once. At the shop, the staff-in-attendance tried to "persuade" me to buy 20 sessions of slimming when I was in my underwear. That was really awkward, right? A charbo trying her best to sell the product while I was semi-naked. Good thing I am gay ..(if not, she might throw herself at me...). That day, I left my wallet at home so the damage was ZERO. You are not three year old. Can just say no. Don't have to keep credit card at home what if you need the money? So many gay men are also yes men nowadays. Is it because singapore is not tolerant so gays have to be extra nice? So sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Local boy Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, abang said: Lesson learnt ..never carry bank cards and credit cards when visiting those "unbelievable" offers from renowned gyms, beauty/slimming/haircut saloons. If you show them you have only $30 in your wallet, they should leave you alone. Personal experience.. I was conned (by an ex-colleague) to get a free beauty/slimming consultation by Expressions Dhoby Ghaut some ten years ago. She wanted to boost her sales figures and I only agreed to help her once. At the shop, the staff-in-attendance tried to "persuade" me to buy 20 sessions of slimming when I was in my underwear. That was really awkward, right? A charbo trying her best to sell the product while I was semi-naked. Good thing I am gay ..(if not, she might throw herself at me...). That day, I left my wallet at home so the damage was ZERO. They purposely talked to you while you were naked so you would feel pressured to close the deal as you are anxious to put on clothes cos you are embarrassed as you are gay and she know that. Those sales bitches are indeed ruthless and low! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) 你地 （粤语） 听听大叔教你两招。。 GUEST 妹妹们，这般聪明就无需“隐名”啦。。我都讲过不对GUEST回应。。 GUEST 妹妹们， 记住啦。。不要浪费您的时间。。多多找别的更加有意义的事做。乖的/识做的！ Edited July 12, 2016 by abang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Local boy Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, abang said: 你地 （粤语） 听听大叔教你两招。。 GUEST 妹妹们，这般聪明就无需“隐名”啦。。我都讲过不对GUEST回应。。 GUEST 妹妹们， 记住啦。。不要浪费您的时间。。多多找别的更加有意义的事做。乖的/识做的！ Mm ji ho dai. Flicks hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Didi Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Guest Local boy said: They purposely talked to you while you were naked so you would feel pressured to close the deal as you are anxious to put on clothes cos you are embarrassed as you are gay and she know that. Those sales bitches are indeed ruthless and low! The sales are not ruthless just that this particular forum poster behaved like the typical balless Sinkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Is california fitness in sg got affected and will closed down? 对自己好是一种幸福， 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Local boy Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Guest Didi said: The sales are not ruthless just that this particular forum poster behaved like the typical balless Sinkie. Sales staffs in singapore are indeed getting ruthless! Got to do with the sky high rentals getting even higher. Lots of news reports on such ruthless sales tactics nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fatty Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 4 hours ago, abang said: 你地 （粤语） 听听大叔教你两招。。 GUEST 妹妹们，这般聪明就无需“隐名”啦。。我都讲过不对GUEST回应。。 GUEST 妹妹们， 记住啦。。不要浪费您的时间。。多多找别的更加有意义的事做。乖的/识做的！ Untiong please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boredathome Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Sian my SG membership is till 2018, I hope SG wont get affected! Sidetrack abit, came across this video, this Edmund Tan quite cute and confirmed gay but why he talk like that! California Fitness hunks Edmund and Jonathan sure know how to sweat in style. Their bright outfits catch the eye of The Straits Times RazorTV at our Orchard Club. Personal Trainers Kurt and Bronson are not spared the fashion patrol either! Posted by California Fitness Singapore Official Page on Thursday, May 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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