Return of faulty SMRT trains back to China

[Guest news]

Astonishing news from HK :

 

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/finance/20160705/55317610

 

Return of faulty SMRT trains back to China.

The defective C151A trains were photographed escorted by the Singapore Traffic Police and wrapped up in trucks and transported during the wee mornings of June 12, 2016.

 

According to sources, the defective trains are being stored at SMRT’s Bishan Depot.

 

We witnessed two train cars wrapped in green covering being moved out of the depot at 1-2 am.

...

Each of the two covered train cars were more than 20m long.

 

They were placed on large dollies used for transporting train cars and were towed away by cargo trucks, led by police escorts and construction vehicles.

 

At approximately 3am, the two train cars arrived at Jurong Port, located in Singapore’s western industrial
area.

 

Using a drone camera, we discovered that six train cars had already been placed in one corner of the port.

Cranes, derricks, and other large machines believed to be used for lifting trains were situated nearby.

 

Source: http://bit.ly/29sDP3X

See More

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/07/05/mainland-manufacturer-mtr-secretly-recalls-35-trains-singapore-due-cracks/

 

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2016/07/did-smrt-and-lta-hide-defects-of-china-manufactured-trains/

 

Shocking scandal unfolding

[Guest Guest]

 

Mainland manufacturer for MTR secretly recalls 35 trains from Singapore due to cracks

5 July 2016 12:06

FactWire

10 min read

 

Chinese-made subway trains in Singapore have cracks in their car bodies and key structural components, resulting in 35 trains being shipped back to their manufacturer in Qingdao for replacement, FactWire can reveal.

Details of the defects and the recalls have been kept secret in both Singapore and China. The same mainland manufacturer is responsible for manufacturing nine trains for the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link (XLR) and 93 trains for the Mass Transit Railway Corporation’s (MTR Corporation) four urban lines.

Trains wrapped in green covering could be seen inside the factory in Chengyang district. Photo: FactWire.

A source from the mainland railway industry told FactWire that Singapore’s subway operator SMRT Trains Ltd (SMRT) was secretly shipping defective trains back to mainland China for replacement and repair by manufacturer CSR Sifang Locomotive & Rolling Stock Company Ltd  (CSR Sifang).

According to sources, the defective trains are being stored at SMRT’s Bishan Depot. After 1am on June 12, FactWire reporters witnessed two train cars wrapped in green covering being moved out of the depot.

See also: Moody’s lowers ratings for MTR Corporation and KCRC due to gov’t links

 

Each of the two covered train cars were more than 20m long. They were placed on large dollies used for transporting train cars and were towed away by cargo trucks, led by police cars and construction vehicles.

 

At approximately 3am, the two train cars arrived at Jurong Port, located in Singapore’s western industrial area.

 

Using a drone camera, reporters discovered that six train cars had already been placed in one corner of the port. Cranes, derricks, and other large machines believed to be used for lifting trains were situated nearby.

The two train cars entered Jurong Port in Singapore’s western industrial area. Photo: FactWire.

Another source from the mainland railway industry confirmed that the train spotted by FactWire reporters was to be taken by cargo ship to Qingdao, with the voyage taking more than 10 days. In late June, reporters went to the factory of train manufacturer CSR Sifang, located in Qingdao’s Chengyang district.

 

Two of CSR Sifang’s staff confirmed that the train had arrived at the factory on June 25 from Singapore.

 

Outside the factory, reporters saw trains wrapped in green covering identical to the kind seen in Singapore. Some of the green covering had “E27” printed on it, the same marking seen on the covering of the trains in Singapore.

 

The defective trains belong to the SMRT’s C151A series.

 

In May 2009, Singapore’s Land Transport Authority awarded the manufacturing contract of the C151A trains to a consortium consisting of Japanese company Kawasaki Heavy Industries Rolling Stock Company (Kawasaki Heavy Industries), its Singapore subsidiary, and CSR Sifang. 22 trains were ordered, totalling S$368 million, equivalent to approximately HK$2.1 billion.

 

Singapore later ordered an extra 13 trains of the same series in 2011.

 

From May 2011 to 2014, 35 trains were shipped to Singapore and put into service.

According to a 2009 press release by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, it was responsible for overseeing the project, designing and manufacturing the train bogies, and buying the major train components.

 

The press release also states that CSR Sifang was responsible for manufacturing other parts of the train car body, assembling the trains, and conducting factory tests.

 

Another press release by CSR Sifang from 2009 describes the project as “the first successful cooperation of CSR Sifang with the world’s advanced subway vehicle enterprises in the international subway vehicle market”.

 

In the same year, chairman of CSR Corporation Limited Zhao Xiaogang stated that the Singapore railway contract bid submitted by Kawasaki Heavy Industries-CSR Sifang was the second lowest, with the lowest bid being submitted by a South Korean company.

 

According to Zhao, Singaporean authorities chose to award the bid to Kawasaki Heavy Industries-CSR Sifang after a comprehensive evaluation because product quality was important to them.

 

However, multiple sources from mainland China and Singapore have confirmed to FactWire that problems have been found with C151A trains since they began service in 2011.

 

Sources said the trains are of poor quality and that the glass next to passenger seats has repeatedly shattered due to shoddy workmanship.

 

In 2011, one of the trains’ Chinese-made uninterruptible power supply batteries exploded during repair.

 

While there were no injuries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries-CSR Sifang replaced all of the batteries made in China with ones made in Germany.

 

See also: Commuters appalled over seventh MTR fare increase in as many years

 

In December 2011, serious malfunctions occurred on the SMRT’s North South Line, which the SMRT suspected were caused by C151A trains.

 

A subcontractor responsible for supplying train components to CSR Sifang admitted to FactWire that after the malfunctions, SMRT significantly reduced the frequency of C151A trains and asked to delay payment for extra trains of the same series, greatly impacting the subcontractor’s cash flow.

 

The mainland railway industry source stated that quality issues with the Chinese-made C151A trains began to worsen in 2013.

 

They said cracks were found in structural components, including the sub-floor – a compartment under the passenger floor holding the equipment box and electrical wires – and bolster function parts connecting the car body to the bogie, the latter having the most serious problems. “It’s a structural problem,” said the source.

 

“The bolster function balances the train’s weight and swing range, [therefore] cracks are dynamic, [they] can spread to the train car body with the bolster function, so the entire train car must be replaced.”

 

C151, the predecessor of C151A, has been manufactured by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Japan since the 1980s. The two models share similar designs, but the C151 has been used by the SMRT since 1987 without experiencing cracks. Mainland sources revealed that some of the C151A trains manufactured by CSR Sifang were found to have impurities in their aluminium train car bodies, a very likely cause of the cracks now found in the trains.

Photo: FactWire.

Former Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation acting chief executive officer Samuel Lai Man-hay said train components usually cracked due to age.

 

“It is very unusual for cracks to appear in new components, and you don’t know how much pressure it can withstand after that, because running puts a lot of pressure on the train’s car body,” said Lai. “If [the incidents] are true, aside from cracks, battery explosions also reflect that the product may have quality issues.

 

The quality control of the entire manufacturing process comes under suspicion, causing people to lose confidence in the product.”

 

Lai also added that normally, after trains are produced, the manufacturer makes suggestions to the operator on maintenance and repair of the product. “If you don’t trust the manufacturer’s product quality, will you believe the technical repair suggestions it provides? This is a very serious problem, it must be made clear, how much confidence you have in the manufacturer.”

See also: 4 passengers per square metre: New report shows MTR overcrowding during morning rush

 

A source from CSR Sifang told FactWire that at least five trains had been replaced since last year. They also said Kawasaki Heavy Industries was taking over the manufacturing of the flawed aluminium train car body, while CSR Sifang is responsible for reassembling the train cars. Arriving in Qingdao after half a month of shipping, each train car is disassembled and its parts refitted into the new car body. Tests are then conducted before the new trains are shipped back to Singapore, completing the four-month repair process. The original train car bodies must be discarded, resulting in tremendous losses for both companies.

Photo: FactWire.

FactWire contacted several retired Singaporean subway staff. One of them said: “I’ve never encountered a situation like this in all my decades of working in railway construction. Replacing the whole frame [of the train] – you can tell how serious [the problem] is.”

 

Another former SMRT worker admitted that the C151A train model had quality issues in its propulsion system, engine system, and other components. “It’s not a complete failure you know, it’s [that] the [train’s] life is so much shorter, maybe about half [of the normal lifespan]. [For instance], if normal trains can [run for] one million km, but this one can only do 500,000km.”

 

He said that Kawasaki Heavy Industries-CSR Sifang had been providing “after sale service” for the trains and sending staff to Singapore to “troubleshoot”. “[Chinese-made trains] are very cheap. How can you have [something] that is very good and pay a very cheap price? So this is [the] trade-off.”

FactWire contacted Kawasaki Heavy Industries’ Singapore branch, responsible for overseeing the C151A project.

 

In a telephone conversation lasting more than 10 minutes, the company’s rolling stock manager Ken Nishiyama did not deny the flaws in the C151A trains and their recall back to Qingdao for replacement. He twice asked the reporter: “How do you know [about] the project?”

 

When the reporter asked why the C151A trains had quality issues and whether manufacturer CSR Sifang should bear responsibility, Nishiyama repeatedly stressed: “We cannot make any comment on the project, the progress, the issue, whether there is [a] programme or no programme.”

 

SMRT, Singapore’s Land Transport Authority, and CRRC Corporation Limited, CSR Sifang’s parent company, did not respond to requests for comment.

Photo: FactWire.

In recent years, Hong Kong’s MTR Corporation has made many purchases of Chinese-made trains, including several deals with CSR Sifang. In March 2012, after its successful HK$1.74 billion bid, CSR Sifang was awarded the XLR contract to supply nine CRH380A trains, each containing eight train cars.

 

With three of the trains already completed, the first batch of trains are due to be shipped later this year. In July 2015, MTR Corporation announced a HK$6 billion contract with CSR Sifang to buy 93 French-designed trains of eight train cars each to fully replace the first generation, British-made trains now serving the Kwun Tong, Tsuen Wan, Tseung Kwan O, and Island Lines.

 

According to MTR Corporation’s 2015 business overview, 115 trains operate in the urban lines during peak hours, meaning the new trains will make up over 70% of urban line trains in the future. The contract is MTR Corporation’s largest order of new trains and also the largest order of trains in the mainland.

 

MTR Corporation’s 93 new urban line trains manufactured by CSR Sifang cost HK$6 billion, averaging only HK$8 million per train car. “The price for trains is very cheap,” said Lai. “In my recollection of purchasing trains, each train car cost at least over HK$10 million.”

Photo: FactWire.

This price is over 40% cheaper than the first batch of mainland-manufactured trains and SMRT’s C151A trains. Information records show that MTR Corporation purchased 10 urban line trains of eight train cars each from CRRC Changchun Railway Vehicles Company Ltd. (CRRC Changchun) for HK$1.1 billion, averaging HK$14 million per train car. SMRT’s defective C151A trains have six train cars each, averaging HK$16 million per train car.

 

In a written response to FactWire, the MTR Corporation did not acknowledge whether it was aware of quality issues with SMRT’s C151A trains, only stating, “According to a preliminary enquiry to the contractor, the car body material of the C151A trains and the car body material of trains purchased by the MTR Corporation come from different suppliers.”

[Guest Guest]

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2016/07/did-smrt-and-lta-hide-defects-of-china-manufactured-trains/

[Guest OMG]

• • • 

      mouseking BlackBee • an hour ago

      We beat ST to it ...... again! lol

    • •  

       

      

      BlackBee mouseking • 33 minutes ago

      Now u know why they are ranked 153 lor.

       

  

  BlackBee • an hour ago

  Interesting. ST just released news about the returned of faulty trains.

  If TOC no report, think they will not bother to let the public knows about these low quality trains they had purchased from China.

  see more

   
• •  

   

  

  mouseking • an hour ago

  Hi Terry, you very fast hand, fast leg eh. Lol

  There is a video link to it:

  View Hide

   

  see more
• •  

   

  

  PikuChoo • 29 minutes ago

  LTA seemingly "not informed" of these issues has shades of Health minister Gan Kim Yong not being informed of the Hep C fatalities. I would not be surprised at all if the news was embargoed for precisely the same reasons: up coming elections back in 2015.

  see more
• •  

   

  

  ladylovecraft • 31 minutes ago

  straits times just reported a few minutes ago! they even credited the HK news agency in their main report! and even the videos!

  • •  

     

    

    BlackBee ladylovecraft • 14 minutes ago

    Have to thank the HK news agency lah. People ho sim tell them what is happening in their own backyard leh.

    ST really sia suay!

    Smrt being a listing company, are they not liable to inform shareholders of this train defects also??

     

• •  

   

  

  mouseking • 43 minutes ago

  I can't help it! Allow me the pleasure: Let's move on! Hahahaahah

  see more
• • 
     

   

  

  AngCherLing Mod • an hour ago

  LTA awarded a contract worth approximately S$749 million to Kawasaki Heavy Industries and CSR Qingdao Sifang for the purchase of 91 new four–car trains for the Thomson and Eastern Region Lines in May 2014.
  
  It was also announced by Land Transport Authority (LTA) on 22 September 2015 that twelve new six-car trains for the North-South and East-West Lines (NSEWL) have been purchased from the same consortium at a cost of about S$136.8 million.

   

  Huh?? After spending more than 0.5B on the initial batch of 35 defective trains in 2009 and 2011, we are getting more train carriages from the same manufacturer??

  Or was it part of the latter deal to swap, trade in and or exchange for the newer models??

  see more

   
  • •  

     

    

    PikuChoo AngCherLing • 38 minutes ago

    This is called never learn from first mistake .... or else someone is chiak lui somewhere.

    •  

[Guest TOPIX]

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/china-made-mrt-trains-sent-back-to-fix-defects

 

 

[Guest guest]

https://www.factwire.news/en/MTR-securetly-recall.html

[Guest Guest]

China again... SMRT so budget mehh??? Or whoever is in charged of making this order is trying to pocket some funds?

[iamziz]

Mothership just released an article about it 

http://mothership.sg/2016/07/we-summarise-wth-is-going-on-with-mrt-train-cars-being-shipped-back-to-china/

 

 

[Guest The Donald.]

The root of the problem is that Singapore cannot manufacture and have the steeland aluminium smelting facilities to manufacture their very own rolling stock. 

For many years Singaporeans pride for the country's achievement was misplaced and over inflated .

 

If you cannot manufacture your very own rolling stock and train body, its the basic building block of having a train transit system. 

 

For many years , Singaporeans were merely consumers. 

 

Hence. Being a sitting duck and receiving end of shoddy products manufacturers who are foreign entities

 Now it seems even our Billions spent cannot even ensure we get decentbbasic trains with a defect free metro system. It shows Singapore is totally dependent on foreign manufacturers. Are we having the right people at the negotiation tables

 

We need tough business negotiators like someone like Donald Trump. Send in Trump. Make Singapore Great Again. lol.

 

[fab]

Ownself checks ownself.

[Vometra]

Uh oh, I forsee drones going to be banned soon, prolly citing security and terrorism concerns.

[fab]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1171531002868127&id=566549713366262

[alien]

Such a big case! We are having defective trains running on our track?

[Guest Guest]

74% of the trains have structural defects and it takes 7 years to repair them.

ST, LTA and SMRT are going into damage control mode after the international expose by FactwireHK.

Who knows what other dirty secrets are being hidden from the public?

[Guest Guest]

3 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

74% of the trains have structural defects and it takes 7 years to repair them.

ST, LTA and SMRT are going into damage control mode after the international expose by FactwireHK.

Who knows what other dirty secrets are being hidden from the public?

 

In its report, FactWire verified and documented the whole transportation after being tipped off by a mainland source in the railway industry that SMRT was secretly shipping defective trains back to mainland China for replacement and repair by manufacturer CSR Sifang Locomotive & Rolling Stock Company Ltd (CSR Sifang).

It was confirmed that the carriages were meant for the manufacturer after the same carriages were sighted at the factory of the manufacturer in Qingdao.

FactWire said that a subcontractor responsible for supplying train components to CSR Sifang admitted to them that after the malfunctions, SMRT significantly reduced the frequency of C151A trains and asked to delay payment for extra trains of the same series, greatly impacting the subcontractor’s cash flow.

If the facts are as what FactWire has reported, one has to shudder at the level of cover up by the company. Even if there may not been any accidents that resulted in injuries due to the defective trains, as a public transport operator, it is gravely irresponsible to have put commuters at risk, who are without any knowledge of the defects

Also, one has to take a look at how LTA, the governing body of train operators in Singapore has never said anything about the matter. Given that it would be very unlikely that LTA is not informed of the defects by the operator, it sends chill to the bone as to what form of public accountability does the agency and its parent ministry, the Ministry of Transport have towards the general public for allowing such cover-ups.

And given the kind of defects that are found existing in the trains provided by the supplier, it is bewildering to know that LTA is still purchasing trains from the same manufacturer with public taxpayers monies.

[Guest Guest]

http://thediplomat.com/2016/07/did-china-firm-secretly-recall-defective-singapore-trains/

 

Follow-up report by The Diplomat after the scandal sent shockwaves to the Singaporean commuting public.

[Vometra]

Dun worry, no minister is going to resign. No blame culture remember?

[Guest Guest]

So , now we need HK news to report and know about what's really happening here ?! It's no wonder Hong Konger IQ at no. 1 and we are at No. 5 ! 

[Guest no wonder]

No wander some one  step down immediately before errection 2015

[Guest Guest]

6 hours ago, Vometra said:

Dun worry, no minister is going to resign. No blame culture remember?

 

Aiyo, xia suay leh

[Guest ssssssssssssssssssssssssss]

Tiam Tiam Bo Lang CHAI

[lonelyglobe]

On ‎5‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 3:17 AM, Guest The Donald. said:

The root of the problem is that Singapore cannot manufacture and have the steeland aluminium smelting facilities to manufacture their very own rolling stock. 

For many years Singaporeans pride for the country's achievement was misplaced and over inflated .

 

If you cannot manufacture your very own rolling stock and train body, its the basic building block of having a train transit system. 

 

For many years , Singaporeans were merely consumers. 

 

Hence. Being a sitting duck and receiving end of shoddy products manufacturers who are foreign entities

 Now it seems even our Billions spent cannot even ensure we get decentbbasic trains with a defect free metro system. It shows Singapore is totally dependent on foreign manufacturers. Are we having the right people at the negotiation tables

 

We need tough business negotiators like someone like Donald Trump. Send in Trump. Make Singapore Great Again. lol.

 

unfortunately 70% of the population will not agreed to have trump here.......not all manufacturer's product are shoddy, the reason they get from china is because they are cheap or because we want to "three-legged" china??? If they have spent a bit more to get from Japan where they placed a greater emphasis on quality, things might be different, china is simply famous for producing low quality product at low cost and that explain why there are so many rich guy there including that mr. alibaba who basically get rich by selling counterfeit goods.....now really got to worry the new sin-kl train, are we going to have more lousy train, railway and stations built by china?

[Guest 3rd world shit]

Sin-kl train. More murderers, rapists, robbers, thieves and kidnappers are gonna zip here!

[Guest Guest]

12 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

unfortunately 70% of the population will not agreed to have trump here.......not all manufacturer's product are shoddy, the reason they get from china is because they are cheap or because we want to "three-legged" china??? If they have spent a bit more to get from Japan where they placed a greater emphasis on quality, things might be different, china is simply famous for producing low quality product at low cost and that explain why there are so many rich guy there including that mr. alibaba who basically get rich by selling counterfeit goods.....now really got to worry the new sin-kl train, are we going to have more lousy train, railway and stations built by china?

These  super rich cheenas are just like the rich Arabs , basically con men and women ....

[Guest Guest]

and people were touting our "world class transportation system" over here each time elections come around!

[Guest Guest]

Covered up before Erection 2015

[Guest TGTBT]

If it's too good to be true, it probably is, TGTBT.

[fab]

Instead of astonishing news from hk, it should be

 

Embarassasing news from HK

[Guest]

GUARANTEE NO SPOIL?

 

LTA wanted to buy new trains. They went to China to source thinking they should be cheaper there. They found one and ask the manufacturer, "What would happen if
the trains are faulty?"

 

The manufacturer quietly pointed to the only sign in English that reads, "GUARANTEE NO SPOIL".

 

Feeling assured, they bought the trains. Now the trains have problem. LTA quickly returned to the manufacturer and asked for a refund or an exchange. When the manufacturer refused to give either, LTA pointed to the sign assuring a guarantee.

 

The manufacturer then said, "Brother, you are in China. We read from the right to the left."

[orionmiz]

17 minutes ago, jcho said:

GUARANTEE NO SPOIL?

 

LTA wanted to buy new trains. They went to China to source thinking they should be cheaper there. They found one and ask the manufacturer, "What would happen if
the trains are faulty?"

 

The manufacturer quietly pointed to the only sign in English that reads, "GUARANTEE NO SPOIL".

 

Feeling assured, they bought the trains. Now the trains have problem. LTA quickly returned to the manufacturer and asked for a refund or an exchange. When the manufacturer refused to give either, LTA pointed to the sign assuring a guarantee.

 

The manufacturer then said, "Brother, you are in China. We read from the right to the left."

 

Haha, maybe if the sign is written in chinese, it might make more sense. 保不坏 read backwards is 坏不保

[alien]

Will this big issue affect the number of trains operating since so many defected trains have been returned back?

[leo yok loo]

4 minutes ago, alien said:

Will this big issue affect the number of trains operating since so many defected trains have been returned back?

No issue lah...they will tell u ..oh small cracks , no safety issue...(but take 7 years to repair)...my god..7 years is enough to make new trains..

[orionmiz]

There are new trains coming in by the way to serve NSL and EWL.

[alien]

Just now, leo yok loo said:

No issue lah...they will tell u ..oh small cracks , no safety issue...(but take 7 years to repair)...my god..7 years is enough to make new trains..

Think they have took out all the train with cracks. So should affect the frequency of the train liao.

[leo yok loo]

No issue also. The rules for car loan has changed..encourage us to buy car.

[lonelyglobe]

18 hours ago, orionmiz said:

 

Haha, maybe if the sign is written in chinese, it might make more sense. 保不坏 read backwards is 坏不保

similar one 保不漏水, reading from different direction give you completely different meaning, also they are extremely terrible in translation, instruction should read "works better in dark room" but instead it says" works better in duck room"

[Guest WireFact]

Quote

 

FactWire hits back at Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan’s ‘false statements’

Hong Kong news agency FactWire has hit back at Singapore’s Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan, accusing him of evading responsibility for the defective trains saga. 

Last week, FactWire broke the story of SMRT sending 35 trains back to its Chinese manufacturer for repair in June, after numerous cracks and defects were discovered on the vehicles.

The Transport Ministry has come under fire for not disclosing the train defects. It has since clarified that 26 trains were sent back to the manufacturer, and that the defects were not “safety critical”. 

On Tuesday (12 July), Khaw spoke about the incident for the first time at a news conference, saying that disclosing the return of the vehicles could have caused “undue panic”. He also hinted that FactWire had a political agenda in reporting the story.

“We are caught in a crossfire and there are factions in Hong Kong who wanted to cause some difficulties for mainland China. I have no inside information on whether that is true or not, but it’s possible. Unfortunately, we become a convenient bullet and collateral damage,” Khaw said.

In an open letter, FactWire “deeply regret(ted)” what it called Khaw’s “false statements” and said that it was only interested in reporting what was in the public interest.

“Instead of taking responsibility for an incident which has damaged the Singaporean public’s trust in the authorities, the minister blamed the Hong Kong news agency for exposing the cover up of the recalls of defective trains.”

FactWire added that its reports were based on “impregnable evidence” and not “commercial or political considerations”.

The statement concluded, “As a news agency committed to serving the public, when public officials are riled by our reporting, it is merely proof that we are doing the right thing.”

 

[Guest awkwardpenguin]

Khaw Boon Wan should shut the fuck up and focus on solving SMRT's shameful defective train scandal, instead of picking fights with Factwire about the expose.

[Guest Singaporean]

1 hour ago, Guest awkwardpenguin said:

Khaw Boon Wan should shut the fuck up and focus on solving SMRT's shameful defective train scandal, instead of picking fights with Factwire about the expose.

No, we should bring Factwire to court to maintain our reputation.

 

Why is there an uproar in the first place? Already said the imperfections are not safety critical and this is not announced is the government do not want to create undue panic.

 

so what if we know? We can't fix the trains anyway.

 

most importantly, nobody died right?

[Guest LuvSg]

If the train defects are minor, why do we have to send 26 trains back all the way to China, imagine the logistics, time and money involved in sending them back. Why don't they just send some engineers over to correct the fault. 

 

If you read the reports properly, the defects need 6 years to repair. Minor defects need 6 years to repair?

 

Yes, the defects are not critical now, but as the trains move and shuttle along at high speed, most hair-line cracks develop into something else. Too late if the hair-line cracks change shape, hope you are not inside them should things happen. Prevention is better than cure bro.

[leo yok loo]

6 years is a long time... can make new trains..These people drawing super high pay and like to talk cock. Nobody with a sound mind will buy his bull shit story.

If like what he said , the cracks are not a safety issue, why bother to repair. 

[Guest Guest]

23 hours ago, Guest awkwardpenguin said:

Khaw Boon Wan should shut the fuck up and focus on solving SMRT's shameful defective train scandal, instead of picking fights with Factwire about the expose.

 

He doesn't want to commit hara kiri..

 

"“In Japan, the CEO and board of directors will call a press conference and take a deep bow, and in the good old days, they may even commit hara-kiri. Where there are breaches of the Companies Act, both the company as well as the individuals responsible will be charged, and if found guilty, punished with fines and/or jail terms for the individuals.”

[fab]

Source for Cheap train n hence in china? Our govt advocates high cost with quality such as highest salary to attract best talents.

 

Full of contradictions cow. Minor y fear public panic? Come on let people decide no matter how small.

[Guest Shankou]

Buy Japanese trains, order them to be pirated legally in China. They get made in pirated Japanese factory in ex-Manchukuo. 

Maybe the Japanese planted a defective one to copy?

HAHAHAH!