iamziz Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 The Big GAY Secret: Straight Guys Having Fun On The Side When I was in high school I offered a helping “hand” to many of my straight buddies who asked. At the time it was exciting and, let’s face it, who would seriously say no to the request? One glance, one note or one whisper and it was off to the back of the locker room for an extracurricular “Sex Education” course. Now that I’m older it’s easy to blame their curiosity on either puberty or temptation, but in the grand scheme of things, was it really? Let me remind you of something. All the straight men we’ve hooked up with in the past are now adults. Some may identify themselves as gay while others are still fooling around in the back of the wet sauna. Whatever the case may be, it’s hard to deny that they still exist in high numbers – just as they did then. The rules, however, have changed drastically. Fooling around with a “straight” guy in his 30s is a hell of a lot different than doing it in high school. He’s now a man with a job and possibly a family, yet, still feels the need to sneak away for a little R&R. Though it might be all in good fun, I can’t help but wonder if we’re doing more damage than good by feeding the urges they desperately try to suppress in their daily lives. Grindr is now the closeted man’s only vessel towards fulfilling his sexual fantasies, which I’m all for, but has it become a double-edged sword? Sure it might allow him to release the urges he keeps hidden at home, but at the same time it’s like waving a bone in front of a starving dog. Sex becomes a tease, a glimpse into a world he’s too scared to enter. Gay guys across the community keep silent when it comes to speaking about their “married” friend with benefits out of fear of judgment – most of my friends have been in similar situations. There are more straight guys fooling around than you might think, and, trust me, most of their wives are well-aware. I’ve seen it firsthand. Though the secrets and sneaking around create a more exciting experience for us, is it worth it in the end? Look, I love straight guy just as much as the next gay man and I loved every sexcapade I’ve had with them. I can only guess the feelings were mutual. For me, however, the buzz is easily killed as soon as I realize he’s living a lie. But when it comes to fast hookups where little conversation is exchanged, does it really matter? I’ve known plenty of gay guys who’ve fallen in love with their FWB, thinking they were going to leave their wife and runaway with them. More often than not, they’re left in the dust. Marriage vows proved to be stronger than their need to express who they really are. The inner battles of being in the closet are unimaginable and the longer we’re kept in it the more comfortable we get, which is why it’s hard for deeply closeted men to take the leap. But when it comes down to it, are we helping them or hurting them by fulfilling their sexual needs? The answers will always vary depending on who you ask, but in the gay community, if there’s any elephant in the room, this is definitely the biggest one. It’s time we start talking about it. Source: http://www.gayguys.com/2014/03/big-gay-secret-straight-guys-fun-side/ Tachyons 1 Quote ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 善待对人。麻烦用英文来表达信息。不是每个人都会看的懂中文 。| “People need to learn the art of making an argument. Often there is no right or wrong. It's just your opinion vs someone else's opinion. How you deliver that opinion could make the difference between opening a mind, changing an opinion or shutting the door. Sometimes folk just don't know when they've "argued" enough. Learn when to shut up." ― J'son M. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GachiMuchi Posted December 6, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Confession: I Am Straight… But I Regularly Have Sex With Other Men Dear Straight People, Although I frequently have sex with other men, I would consider myself straight. Before the rainbow flag waving gay activists start denouncing me as a closeted gay man who is in denial, please hear me out first before you jump to that superficial conclusion. First and foremost, I’m a 26-year old man who really likes women. I’ve had 3 ex-girlfriends before, all of whom I’ve been incredibly physically and emotionally attracted to. But as much as I enjoy the company of the opposite sex, I also don’t mind getting off with other men. My First Gay Experience The first time I ever had sex with another guy was when I was 15. I went to an all-boys secondary school and as you can imagine, we were all perpetually horny. My clique and I used to watch porn together after school. We would head to *Alex’s house and 4 or 5 of us would crowd around the computer to watch porn together. Looking back, it was pretty lame. We never jerked off or anything. We would just crowd around the computer and pass comments while the porn was playing. There was nothing homosexual about the experience. It was very much like a bunch of dudes watching soccer together. Source But one time after school, it was just Alex and me chilling at his place. We got bored with doing homework and I suggested we watch some porn instead as a break. While the porn was playing, Alex started rubbing his erection through his pants which was something none of us ever did before. I was slightly surprised but I didn’t make much of a fuss and I too started rubbing my hard-on. I got so horny I decided to just take out my erection from my pants and I started masturbating in the open. That definitely caught Alex’s attention and while he had this incredibly shocked expression on his face at first, he didn’t say anything and after a while, he too started wanking in the open. I’m not sure what made me do it but I was the one who suggested we jerk each other off. One thing led to another and soon, we were 69-ing each other. It was an incredibly surreal experience but neither of us talked about it or did anything remotely sexual with one another after that. It was a one-time experience and that was that. Having Sex With Other Men Source It wasn’t until 7 years later that I had my next homosexual experience. I had just gotten out of a relationship with my second ex-girlfriend. We were together for almost a year and during that period, we had loads of sex. At least once a week. When the relationship ended, I suddenly had no one to relieve me of my sexual desires anymore. I was going through a 4-month long dry spell when it just randomly hit me to get off with another man to cure my blue balls. I downloaded Grindr and before I knew it, this random gay stranger was blowing me at his house. I was amazed at how easy it was for gay men to get laid so every time I got horny, I would hook up with someone on Grindr. Over time, I started experimenting with anal sex as well (I always topped) but most of the time, I mostly preferred to be at the receiving end of a blowjob. Having Gay Sex Doesn’t Define Me Source I would be lying if I said I’ve never questioned my sexuality before. But after a lot of self-reflection, I identify myself as a heterosexual man. The main reason why I don’t consider myself gay or bi is because I have zero emotional attraction to other men. I’ve never had a crush on another dude before. Nor have I ever even developed the slightest bit of romantic feelings for another guy. In terms of physical attraction to other men, I’m pretty limited in that area too. I don’t check out other guys. And even if I find a dude really good-looking, I don’t start drooling over him. I will just think to myself ‘This guy is handsome‘ and that’s it. Nothing more. Nothing less. As to why I have sex with other men, the reason is simple. It’s a lot easier to get laid with men than it is to score with women. With women, you have to wine and dine them. With men, it’s a lot more convenient. And that’s all there is to it. Convenience. I Am Not A Closet Homophobe The reason why I decided to pen down this confession is because I recently read the enlightening views of Indulekshmi Rajeswari. In her coming out story, she writes: The modern understanding is actually that sexuality falls on to more of a three-dimensional graph, with axes of physical attraction, emotional attraction and gender. It is possible to have a complicated sexuality in which you may be attracted physically to one gender but not emotionally, or vice versa. I could never really articulate my reasoning into words. But Indu’s views completely captures how I feel about sexuality. Having gay sex doesn’t make one gay. Just like how cooking doesn’t make one a chef. For a community who often demands that other people respect their sexuality, it’s very ironic that they are unable to do the same. Whenever I tell my gay sex buddies I am straight, they always smirk and talk as if they know me better than I know myself. I am in no way a homophobe nor do I have any issues with my sexuality. Yes, there are some men who are so closeted they are unable to acknowledge their homosexuality. But I’m not one of them. I’m not in any way religious and I would totally be fine with myself if I was indeed gay or bi. But the thing is that I am straight and gay people need to start respecting that. I’m pretty sick of gay men assuming that having sex with other men automatically makes them gay or bi. Having gay sex doesn’t define my sexuality. *Names have been changed. khatib, camus, sum1outhere_03 and 9 others 12 Quote http://gachimuchi2008.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Me too Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I am exactly like this dude except tht I am married with children. I do it bec I am more highly sex than my wife and I don't want to start a sexually relationship with another woman. With guys, I somehow feel that I can get my load off and say bye bye without feeling guilty whereas with women I am afraid of them falling for me. grocksd, Benny Starter, lifebook and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) On 06/12/2016 at 9:56 PM, Guest Me too said: I am exactly like this dude except tht I am married with children. I do it bec I am more highly sex than my wife and I don't want to start a sexually relationship with another woman. With guys, I somehow feel that I can get my load off and say bye bye without feeling guilty whereas with women I am afraid of them falling for me. if you think that you feel no guilty when you have sex with guys and can say bye bye freely, not because that they are no woman, not because that you are responsible too. Edited December 6, 2016 by snowball grocksd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman76 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 you are a bi.. HazYati and aedile1234 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinlam90 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 So in this case, the term 'gay' is defined as whether one is being emotionally attracted to the same gender? Wow that is a first. Sure, cooking doesn't make you a chef, but that's assuming your parameters of a 'chef' is working in some top notch restaurant. In my defence, if I am able to whip up a meal of aglio olio, I would call myself a chef. Period. To me, it seems like he's trying to find a rationale to ease the guilt (or call it whatever you want) in him. Too afraid to admit that he might have feelings, and yet trying to speak out saying having sex with the same gender does not make one gay. While I respect his views, I don't think I can respect how he tries to twist and turn his views to fit into his opinions. If you're really not that bothered with how you define or how you view the term 'gay', why bother starting a piece in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p2468 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 42 minutes ago, Guest Me too said: I am exactly like this dude except tht I am married with children. I do it bec I am more highly sex than my wife and I don't want to start a sexually relationship with another woman. With guys, I somehow feel that I can get my load off and say bye bye without feeling guilty whereas with women I am afraid of them falling for me. Please treat us with respect! Just because u are afraid of a woman falling for you, u look for a man to fuck without feeling guilty . U are sure an selfish idiot! boy20s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Straight Guess Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Yeah...Straight...Straight Woman. Hehe gc0805 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sincere90 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 4 hours ago, GachiMuchi said: Confession: I Am Straight… But I Regularly Have Sex With Other Men Dear Straight People, Although I frequently have sex with other men, I would consider myself straight. Before the rainbow flag waving gay activists start denouncing me as a closeted gay man who is in denial, please hear me out first before you jump to that superficial conclusion. First and foremost, I’m a 26-year old man who really likes women. I’ve had 3 ex-girlfriends before, all of whom I’ve been incredibly physically and emotionally attracted to. But as much as I enjoy the company of the opposite sex, I also don’t mind getting off with other men. My First Gay Experience The first time I ever had sex with another guy was when I was 15. I went to an all-boys secondary school and as you can imagine, we were all perpetually horny. My clique and I used to watch porn together after school. We would head to *Alex’s house and 4 or 5 of us would crowd around the computer to watch porn together. Looking back, it was pretty lame. We never jerked off or anything. We would just crowd around the computer and pass comments while the porn was playing. There was nothing homosexual about the experience. It was very much like a bunch of dudes watching soccer together. Source But one time after school, it was just Alex and me chilling at his place. We got bored with doing homework and I suggested we watch some porn instead as a break. While the porn was playing, Alex started rubbing his erection through his pants which was something none of us ever did before. I was slightly surprised but I didn’t make much of a fuss and I too started rubbing my hard-on. I got so horny I decided to just take out my erection from my pants and I started masturbating in the open. That definitely caught Alex’s attention and while he had this incredibly shocked expression on his face at first, he didn’t say anything and after a while, he too started wanking in the open. I’m not sure what made me do it but I was the one who suggested we jerk each other off. One thing led to another and soon, we were 69-ing each other. It was an incredibly surreal experience but neither of us talked about it or did anything remotely sexual with one another after that. It was a one-time experience and that was that. Having Sex With Other Men Source It wasn’t until 7 years later that I had my next homosexual experience. I had just gotten out of a relationship with my second ex-girlfriend. We were together for almost a year and during that period, we had loads of sex. At least once a week. When the relationship ended, I suddenly had no one to relieve me of my sexual desires anymore. I was going through a 4-month long dry spell when it just randomly hit me to get off with another man to cure my blue balls. I downloaded Grindr and before I knew it, this random gay stranger was blowing me at his house. I was amazed at how easy it was for gay men to get laid so every time I got horny, I would hook up with someone on Grindr. Over time, I started experimenting with anal sex as well (I always topped) but most of the time, I mostly preferred to be at the receiving end of a blowjob. Having Gay Sex Doesn’t Define Me Source I would be lying if I said I’ve never questioned my sexuality before. But after a lot of self-reflection, I identify myself as a heterosexual man. The main reason why I don’t consider myself gay or bi is because I have zero emotional attraction to other men. I’ve never had a crush on another dude before. Nor have I ever even developed the slightest bit of romantic feelings for another guy. In terms of physical attraction to other men, I’m pretty limited in that area too. I don’t check out other guys. And even if I find a dude really good-looking, I don’t start drooling over him. I will just think to myself ‘This guy is handsome‘ and that’s it. Nothing more. Nothing less. As to why I have sex with other men, the reason is simple. It’s a lot easier to get laid with men than it is to score with women. With women, you have to wine and dine them. With men, it’s a lot more convenient. And that’s all there is to it. Convenience. I Am Not A Closet Homophobe The reason why I decided to pen down this confession is because I recently read the enlightening views of Indulekshmi Rajeswari. In her coming out story, she writes: The modern understanding is actually that sexuality falls on to more of a three-dimensional graph, with axes of physical attraction, emotional attraction and gender. It is possible to have a complicated sexuality in which you may be attracted physically to one gender but not emotionally, or vice versa. I could never really articulate my reasoning into words. But Indu’s views completely captures how I feel about sexuality. Having gay sex doesn’t make one gay. Just like how cooking doesn’t make one a chef. For a community who often demands that other people respect their sexuality, it’s very ironic that they are unable to do the same. Whenever I tell my gay sex buddies I am straight, they always smirk and talk as if they know me better than I know myself. I am in no way a homophobe nor do I have any issues with my sexuality. Yes, there are some men who are so closeted they are unable to acknowledge their homosexuality. But I’m not one of them. I’m not in any way religious and I would totally be fine with myself if I was indeed gay or bi. But the thing is that I am straight and gay people need to start respecting that. I’m pretty sick of gay men assuming that having sex with other men automatically makes them gay or bi. Having gay sex doesn’t define my sexuality. *Names have been changed. Couldnt agree more. To those who disagree, stop saying people like us are gay/bi in closet or in denial. Sexuality isn't just based on sexual lust only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koganei83 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 so sad... whatever these delusional dudes say anyway, to each his own but they are jerks for cheating on their wives/gfs anyway hope their wives/gfs cheat on them too boy20s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam87 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 So I'm not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogous Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 To me if a straight guy wants to have sex with another guy, be it straight or gay, as long as it is consensual (that it's just sex and nothing more), safe, and with no intention to hurt feelings, I don't see anything wrong here. The author said he has sex with gays because of it is easy and convenient. Am I offended by that? No. Do I feel cheap? Not at all... if I happen to like him as well. It's a win-win situation. suckmegood 1 Quote That awkward moment when you say goodbye and then walk in the same direction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 The current state of sexuality science recognizes the concept of MSM (men who have sex with men) without automatically equating that with being gay, bi or some other category. Heck, some people find sports cars sexually arousing. It's important not to conflate the issue of honesty in relationships with sexuality. The confessor's account does not involve an incident of cheating. Who is anyone to judge and call him being in denial. In the first place "gay" is such a ill-defined word, meaning different things to different people. upshot and mate69 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest welcomeaboard Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 if more men could think like u, the merrier for us.. wishing more straight dude that do ghey sex .. prob if its for fun, they dont really care for orientation as well upshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) As I have stated this on many occasions and I will say it here too. And this is something even staunch gay guys like their str8 counterpart before (gays came out) have a problem understanding this even in 21st century and that's SEPARATING SEXUAL EXPERIENCING FROM HOW WE DEFINE BEING GAY. Bi Sexual comes close to defining it I guess but even that has been implied or linked by everyone alike with an almost accusing finger that if you ever touch a male (or female) in any sexual way, you are GAY or LESBIAN. We have to come to term that as a human being, sexual preferences is just a gratuitous physical act. The definition of gay is not so shallow that its has NOTHING TO DO with anything else but SEX. When a person is gay, he has this preference to be with a another same sex person whether he has a sexual erection or not. It's about doing everything and experiences a relations with that male just like a normal str8 couple would. You want to share your time together, you want to emotionally bond with him, yes even marry in some cases i.e. That is what being gay is.. it is about the total package of what it means relationship-wise... not just for the sexual release. Unfortunately the sexual urge in males has always been higher then women and that is a biological fact and that is how nature has intended it to perpetuate the species. But even in nature as some animals have demonstrated male having both sexual activities with both sexes. Even in our human history this has proven to be so but along came certain ideologies and all that became more a idealism or a means to stigmatize certain group of people thus we are where we are today. That is almost like SEX SHAMING in some silly ignorant way. That is why we have many males who do not commit to not saying they will love a gay man. They are just in it till they orgasm and the urge is gone and so too are they gone on their merry way back to their female admiring and seeking a female for a relationship mentality till their next guilty urge for sex and a male is more willing then a female partner would and off they go looking for fun. This is bisexual and would that make him or her a worst person? Would it mean he/she is inferior? It just means this person is all about the fun act once you take away all the stupid notions we have come to be indoctrinated by both nature and silly limited thinking humans including those who use it to control. I can go on to more examples but I think you get the gist of what i am saying heheh.. The sooner we can get over ourselves and needing to define WHICH CAMP we belong to and punish you for it, the best life would be for everyone in this planet. At 7 Billion over people, I think perpetuating our human kind is of really low priority. So what if another male want to have sexual release doing with another man. If a girl will not do it till you spend money and give her full attention and life for then tough shit. Time we bring their over inflated value down a few pegs I say. heheheh.... Don't even get me started on stupid feminism and why it's driving males to other males for fun. ( yes just the fun part too hehe) Sex for everyone... embrace it. It's a great equalizer. So if you ever have the urge and when you are done with 'it' you are still attracted to women in more then a sexual way, you are NORMAL. Just more open to experiences sexually but you are no more or less a human. You don't need to choose a camp to stay in if you don't want it. Yes for stigma or society pressure sake you can not declare it but that does not mean you have no courage. This is not still the time for doing so even for gays still so what does that say about males or females like you that like it both way for sex sake? Just do it safely and do it without hurting someone over it. That is the same challenging thing to do even if you are a str8 person with love ones. Edited December 6, 2016 by upshot suckmegood 1 Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Much as he does not like men but the fact that he wants to do with another man already proves he is gay, if not bi. More like confusion than confession. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerunner Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Denial to the max! Enough said. mandala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neh Neh Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Next topic may be a straight guy like to be dressed up as 还珠格格 and get fucked by lean fit guy and love to moan like a girl in bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantonmee Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 If u are bi, u are bi. What's the big deal... just over justifying for sex with men. So gay dudes who have sex only with zero emotional attachment is also not gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Its ok to be happily married( to a woman) and have sex with a man outside. One is a soul mate, the other a playmate. Just a cat and mouse game but need to be careful. If one is married, responsibility is always to the family first, period. Hence we do see lots of men come out to play and have their sexual desires fufilled. Its ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OnlyWantService Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Str8 or married men only strayed if they can't get sex with their gf/wife when they wanted so they turned to gays who would eagerly service them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterTan359 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 hours ago, wantonmee said: If u are bi, u are bi. What's the big deal... just over justifying for sex with men. So gay dudes who have sex only with zero emotional attachment is also not gay? True. I am gay and never had sex with woman. I have never fell for any guy before. Just pure sex satisfaction. Am I not gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 梅超風的師父 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I like this thread (started by GachiMuchi). Alot of people mistook it. I do not have sex or fantasize kinky action with men. But, I enjoy reading and participate discussion. People come to this forum, not all are gays! confused_indie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 梅超風的師父 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 15 hours ago, Guest Guest said: The current state of sexuality science recognizes the concept of MSM (men who have sex with men) without automatically equating that with being gay, bi or some other category. Heck, some people find sports cars sexually arousing. It's important not to conflate the issue of honesty in relationships with sexuality. The confessor's account does not involve an incident of cheating. Who is anyone to judge and call him being in denial. In the first place "gay" is such a ill-defined word, meaning different things to different people. Quite true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckmegood Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 definitions. labels. human just love having them around our lives so that we can "debate" over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fuck fuck fuck Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 hours ago, Guest rob said: Its ok to be happily married( to a woman) and have sex with a man outside. One is a soul mate, the other a playmate. Just a cat and mouse game but need to be careful. If one is married, responsibility is always to the family first, period. Hence we do see lots of men come out to play and have their sexual desires fufilled. Its ok. I so agree with you not bec I am happily married and absolutely love my family but I still fuck guys outside and get sucked by willing guys a few things new a week. I also make love to my Wife without fail over all these years so she is totally satisfied by me sexually.... but I need more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I hope all straight married or unmarried guys will look for us then for sex . We will satisfy you ..you don't have to feel guilty in fact you don't feel guilty at all ,., happy? We are just sexual tools for your use . Happy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agree Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: I hope all straight married or unmarried guys will look for us then for sex . We will satisfy you ..you don't have to feel guilty in fact you don't feel guilty at all ,., happy? We are just sexual tools for your use . Happy ? Yes!!!! STR8 guys just need to remember gays are here to serve. As long as you take it out, we will handle it for you! We are the unscrupulous slaves!!!! use us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raprien Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 As human beings we have this compulsive need for labels, to slot people into specific roles and define them. This way things are made to be normal and we have a sense of security. I believe this whole confession is about one man's experience and he's just interested to share it. There's no need to vilify him just because he doesn't fall into a category we want him to fit in. I don't think it's fair to expect that of this person. He should be able to do what he wants and not have to be persecuted for his actions. Let us live and let live. suckmegood and upshot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlee Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 So in this case, the term 'gay' is defined as whether one is being emotionally attracted to the same gender? if that is the case what about bromance?which definition is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromance so bromance is gay in that case? what about woman also say their very close girl friend as girlfriend or BFF or sister. By the definition also consider lesbian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0Boo Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I guess guys will still understand guys better right? In terms of emotions, sexual needs etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, J0Boo said: I guess guys will still understand guys better right? In terms of emotions, sexual needs etc Agree. But one should still not use that as one of the main basis for having sex with someone of the same sex. Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0Boo Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, upshot said: Agree. But one should still not use that as one of the main basis for having sex with someone of the same sex. Yeah that is the ideal case.But in reality it doesn't work that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just now, J0Boo said: Yeah that is the ideal case.But in reality it doesn't work that way How so? Unless you got raped by force. Someone very desperate to get you in bed as they like you have you sexually trying to talk and pressure you into it. Other then by some force, the only other one I can think of is one who has urges to be tempted to do. If you have free choice, I see no reason why anyone will do it if they don't want to. But human are funny creatures I guess and if you are weak to give in then you have to bear the consequence for your action alone. It takes two hands to clap after all. No one put a gun to your head to do it heheh. So finger pointing after the act is not cool. Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest confused Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 After reading this thread I feel even more confused ..so am I gay or what ? Pls enlighten me ..I'm so confused . Or there is no such labels as gay lesbian bisexual etc? I'm not attracted to woman at all no emotional attachment whatsoever too. Pls enlighten me seriously ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Guest confused said: After reading this thread I feel even more confused ..so am I gay or what ? Pls enlighten me ..I'm so confused . Or there is no such labels as gay lesbian bisexual etc? I'm not attracted to woman at all no emotional attachment whatsoever too. Pls enlighten me seriously ? YOU'RE A LONER who occasionally date your own hand. .... heh Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinlam90 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Guest confused said: After reading this thread I feel even more confused ..so am I gay or what ? Pls enlighten me ..I'm so confused . Or there is no such labels as gay lesbian bisexual etc? I'm not attracted to woman at all no emotional attachment whatsoever too. Pls enlighten me seriously ? Nah don't worry too much, if you think you are, then you are. If you think you're not, then you're not. Just be true to yourself. upshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamziz Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Met a very gorgeous Middle Eastern man when he was on a business trip here. He said he wasn't sure if he is gay or straight. I said to him to explore both and see which ''channel'' he would be more inclined, too. Just before I sent him off I also said ''Fuck whoever you want to fuck, love whoever you want to love. Labels are for clothing.'' suckmegood, Leanmeat, Gary Changg and 1 other 4 Quote ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 善待对人。麻烦用英文来表达信息。不是每个人都会看的懂中文 。| “People need to learn the art of making an argument. Often there is no right or wrong. It's just your opinion vs someone else's opinion. How you deliver that opinion could make the difference between opening a mind, changing an opinion or shutting the door. Sometimes folk just don't know when they've "argued" enough. Learn when to shut up." ― J'son M. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorzguy Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 The writer mentioned he is mostly on the receiving end of a blowjob. To me, it takes a (gay) man to know another man better. And no way he is very straight. How would a straight man allow another man to blow him? To me, he is indeed straight - Straightly Bisexual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckmegood Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, iamziz said: Met a very gorgeous Middle Eastern man when he was on a business trip here. He said he wasn't sure if he is gay or straight. I said to him to explore both and see which ''channel'' he would be more inclined, too. Just before I sent him off I also said ''Fuck whoever you want to fuck, love whoever you want to love. Labels are for clothing.'' exactly my point. mandala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EQUINOXx Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have a fetish for straight guys.. Cant help it to the point that i never watch gay porn at all... I only watch straight porn lol biLanjiao and mandala 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Come on ! Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 It's not that they cannot be emotionally attached. It's just that the right one has not come along. This is a good revelation for for the LGBT not to be so easily lured by these so called 'Bis' because after they have used you, they will rally with the straight crowd to condemn you while they revel in their secret delight - sick right, and still insist they are totally into women. And then there are women who throw themselves at such cheating men, preferring to turn a blind eye and even playing the willing victim, in exchange for loneliness. High time for community to say NO to such double headed snakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Guest Come on ! said: It's not that they cannot be emotionally attached. It's just that the right one has not come along. This is a good revelation for for the LGBT not to be so easily lured by these so called 'Bis' because after they have used you, they will rally with the straight crowd to condemn you while they revel in their secret delight - sick right, and still insist they are totally into women. And then there are women who throw themselves at such cheating men, preferring to turn a blind eye and even playing the willing victim, in exchange for loneliness. High time for community to say NO to such double headed snakes. Can we not be emotional and just not make this a gay pretending to be str8 thing. And just address this as someone who is a two timer.. someone who like to have a cake and eat it by himself instead of making it sound like he is someone not willing to admit he is gay as he want to have a g/f but still want to have sex with man. Someone people are like that. hehe If he wants to be like that and if he does that to you a gay man who fall for him, that is not his issue to deal with but the gay male. He is simply just a typical TWO TIMING MAN. Just that he jump genders in his sexual preferences and not two timing two females at the same time. He is a bisexual lover he is not about being GAY. What would you say if you he was spending his time with you in a relationship but on the side he go around fucking some female for fun??? How would you call that if the role was reverse. heheh suckmegood 1 Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biLanjiao Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 08/12/2016 at 2:05 PM, EQUINOXx said: I have a fetish for straight guys.. Cant help it to the point that i never watch gay porn at all... I only watch straight porn lol ME too bro.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacquelinehearts Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 I think it's perfectly normal. A lot of people experiment in the teens and even early adulthood. Good article. Benny Starter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Starter Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 During Japanese occupation in early 1900s, our country had a so called "comfort gays". They were used by Japanese soldiers purely for sex. With that said, can we say that the soldiers were bisexual at the height of war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biLanjiao Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 aiya.. those war time.. if u were a soldiers din have sex for a long time.. a hole on the wall also fuck! hahahah Benny Starter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fuck and be merry Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Gays are sensitive people. They don't like to Be called names. They believe in equality of love. A normal guy who is sexually active doesn't care if he fucks a girl or a guy or a sheep as Long as the hole can suck or contract or tighten. If he is a nice guy, he may chat to you after fucking... if he is an asshole he will simply fuck cum withdraw and walk away. Benny Starter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biLanjiao Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 same la.. if the fuckee is a nice guy he will also chat with his fucker.. or else he also wipe the cum off his ass n walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlee Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 During Japanese occupation in early 1900s, our country had a so called "comfort gays". They were used by Japanese soldiers purely for sex. With that said, can we say that the soldiers were bisexual at the height of war? japanese occupation is 1942 to 45 so should say mid 1900s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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