Very meaningful, Homosexuality in terms of buddhism that many of u have been wondering

[lovehandle]

it talks about just cos there are many wrong activities, so do we keep curbing them? eg men raping women (u have seen the news) does it mean we must curb all hetero activities

 

the reason why gays keep having multiple partners is cos they CANNOT get married and settle down w just one!

[Guest 金玉良言]

「大家說同性戀的性伴侶不固定，那他們想結婚，不就是想固定性伴侶嗎？我們要有成人之美。」

 

「佛教沒有把婚姻當成神聖，也沒有當成邪惡，除非你傷害到其他人。如果他能比現在過得更好，我們就應該祝福他。」

 

「啊！男童跟女童在廁所搞情慾探索，又不是男童跟男童，也不是女童跟女童，那跟同性戀有什麼關係！那是異性戀欸，難道要停止異性婚姻嗎？」

 

「我聽早上有人說同性婚姻通過會讓人變同性戀，我請問你，你會嗎！？不會嘛～奇怪欸你！」

[lovehandle]

8 minutes ago, Guest 金玉良言 said:

「大家說同性戀的性伴侶不固定，那他們想結婚，不就是想固定性伴侶嗎？我們要有成人之美。」

 

「佛教沒有把婚姻當成神聖，也沒有當成邪惡，除非你傷害到其他人。如果他能比現在過得更好，我們就應該祝福他。」

 

「啊！男童跟女童在廁所搞情慾探索，又不是男童跟男童，也不是女童跟女童，那跟同性戀有什麼關係！那是異性戀欸，難道要停止異性婚姻嗎？」

 

「我聽早上有人說同性婚姻通過會讓人變同性戀，我請問你，你會嗎！？不會嘛～奇怪欸你！」

This is quoted from the vid/fb

 

 

pls rem to always quote the source

[Guest Guest]

But many parents  and grandparents worried for that their children and grand children will become gay , and not themselves ....., especially the rich ones , later no will left for them by their parent , how ? 

[CKW]

I can't fully understand the video, but I picked up bits of it, especially the nun's critique of the hypocrisy of society (I hope I understood her correctly?).

 

In society, people seem to have different standards for gay and straight people.

 

E.g. society tolerates when a man flirts or sleeps with different girls, but get all worked up when they hear that a man has a boyfriend.

 

Or during NS, all the straight guys will talk about girls in a very demeaning and highly sexualised manner. But when they know that an NSF is gay, even if that NSF does his job well and didn't do anything wrong, very often they will bully him and call him names like 'faggot', 'weird', 'queer', 'freak', as if they themselves are so holy and righteous when they treat girls as sex objects.

[lovehandle]

On ‎4‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 9:53 PM, CKW said:

I can't fully understand the video, but I picked up bits of it, especially the nun's critique of the hypocrisy of society (I hope I understood her correctly?).

 

In society, people seem to have different standards for gay and straight people.

 

E.g. society tolerates when a man flirts or sleeps with different girls, but get all worked up when they hear that a man has a boyfriend.

 

Or during NS, all the straight guys will talk about girls in a very demeaning and highly sexualised manner. But when they know that an NSF is gay, even if that NSF does his job well and didn't do anything wrong, very often they will bully him and call him names like 'faggot', 'weird', 'queer', 'freak', as if they themselves are so holy and righteous when they treat girls as sex objects.

u r quite accurate! the nun qn why are u guys crying this and that

isn't this and that caused by your harsh legislation, the reason why such things happened is due to....

if u  allow gays to get married,  u get to keep your sons and get foc Son-in-law, maybe no next generation

but if adoption is allowable for gay couples (like in some ctries) ， then u may have plenty of grandchildren to send you off your last journey


but let s not talk about demeaning or highly sexualised manner, (which is why many NS boys tried out on prostitutes at that age)
gals nowadays are no lesser in demeaning men too, they screamed at Korean stars(pls don't make me quote their names , all the Kim Jong kiis, kim , what wat wat, u know them, I don't) , they wanna touch 6pecs

they wanna more than 8pecs(don't even need to point it s women, gays too, equally demeaning)
they wanna them handsome and rich too (those living in palace and gangnam area etc)
Who wanna a poor? I don't wish too
They want their bfs to dress or cut (their hair) in a certain stye

What are we? objects for their ....

So let s stop saying about straight men, straight women and non-straight women are equally the same (Buddhism said it all, so long u  r a sentient being, u will have a lot of emotions up and down, u  will have fetish eg me, I m not perfect, I have fetish when I m masturbating, but in reality, I may not wish to do certain things)


Which is why I purposely bring out this video, in Buddhism:

We respect all kind of pp (So long u don't cause harm to another)

We don't specifically mention that marriage is sacred...(which is highlighted in that video)
cos some harped that marriage became tainted when it is two LGBT partners forming a marriage partnership together, OMG!
How tainted can it be?
- u shd know which relign mention about marriage

When I highlighted this vid, I don't meant to pinpoint a particular govt or to point fingers at another group of human beings

cos I m not perfect

[lovehandle]

[lovehandle]

to be fair
the sociologist lady professor, put it quite well

the govt cannot take the lead in "promoting"
 

Tibetan: the all time fav Lama's pt of view
I m not sure why the facilitator need to clarify the same qn again w him

I m shocked tht when did Buddhism stated that homo behaviour was a sexual misconduct?
glad that he explained it well in consistent w the first video (by the nun)

 

[yoyo74]

Although I am a free thinker, will not fully believe in any religion when there is no concrete evidence. I still feel that Buddhist teaching give lots of meaningful words and teaches people what is the right way to do things. TS first videos really talk sense about gays relationship as compared to other religion of god fearing tactics. Buddhism had partially cause me to change my thoughts and now i am a more compassionate person and go on a vegetarian diet due to it. I hope i can follow the Buddha footstep to love everyone and everything on earth although it is very hard as one of the hardest love is to love your enemy too.

[Steve5380]

On 4/15/2017 at 7:25 AM, -Ignored- said:

to be fair
the sociologist lady professor, put it quite well

the govt cannot take the lead in "promoting"
 

Tibetan: the all time fav Lama's pt of view
I m not sure why the facilitator need to clarify the same qn again w him

I m shocked tht when did Buddhism stated that homo behaviour was a sexual misconduct?
glad that he explained it well in consistent w the first video (by the nun)

 

 

While I think that the Dalai Lama has a reasonable position on homosexuality, the Buddhist in the last video I find quite wishy-washy. 

I don't see how homosexuality in itself can be a "sexual misconduct".  Sexual misconduct should be the one that victimizes any one of the participants, not something to do with their sexual orientations.  There can be so much misconduct in hetero like in homo sex!  Deception, cheating, selfishness, etc. etc. If a woman seduces a man with sex for his money, or a man seduces a woman for her money, THIS is sexual misconduct.

 On the other hand, homo or hetero sex can be perfectly clean.

 

I like the Buddhist philosophy and feel much admiration for Buddha. But I find the Buddhist religion contaminated with much baggage and their leaders as imperfect as those from other organized religions.

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Edited April 17, 2017 by Steve5380

[lovehandle]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

While I think that the Dalai Lama has a reasonable position on homosexuality, the Buddhist in the last video I find quite wishy-washy. 

I don't see how homosexuality in itself can be a "sexual misconduct".  Sexual misconduct should be the one that victimizes any one of the participants, not something to do with their sexual orientations.  There can be so much misconduct in hetero like in homo sex!  Deception, cheating, selfishness, etc. etc. If a woman seduces a man with sex for his money, or a man seduces a woman for her money, THIS is sexual misconduct.

 On the other hand, homo or hetero sex can be perfectly clean.

 

I like the Buddhist philosophy and feel much admiration for Buddha. But I find the Buddhist religion contaminated with much baggage and their leaders as imperfect as those from other organized religions.

.

if we have followed the correct teachings of Buddha, there should be no baggage at all

 

so long there are humans , there are black sheeps

[Guest Meh]

It is just surprising to know that there still are people who believe in the notion of god and creation. Clearly, you refuse to use your brain to analyze 'facts' and 'stories' preached in the religion books. come on,

 

how can so many different species of this wonderful world can be fit into one big ship?

 

How can the god stay so elusive from us if he really loves us? why can't he just appear right in front of my face?

 

Is it fair to cast non-believers to hell on the ground that their only crime is not believing in god when god did not even bother to show himself? What good the person did in his lifetime does not matter? That certainly is not fair at all.

 

What was god doing before he created us? playing with angels since eternity? it must be really boring to do nothing but live with angels for a very very long long time. I would rather have a life of ups and downs than forever bask in the glory of that sadistic god. NO THANKS.

 

No worry. I got an answer for you. God works in mysterious ways. no matter what, remember god still loves you. oh please, I am not a kid who will buy into sweet stories. If you have enough respect for your brain, try to read up more and think critically. Inform yourself on histories of middle east and europe. 

Gather enough courage to read books such as 'The end of faith' and 'God delusion'. Give yourself a real treat, not some scribbling ancient cavemen wrote down two thousands years ago.

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Meh said:

It is just surprising to know that there still are people who believe in the notion of god and creation. Clearly, you refuse to use your brain to analyze 'facts' and 'stories' preached in the religion books. come on,

 

how can so many different species of this wonderful world can be fit into one big ship?

 

How can the god stay so elusive from us if he really loves us? why can't he just appear right in front of my face?

 

Is it fair to cast non-believers to hell on the ground that their only crime is not believing in god when god did not even bother to show himself? What good the person did in his lifetime does not matter? That certainly is not fair at all.

 

What was god doing before he created us? playing with angels since eternity? it must be really boring to do nothing but live with angels for a very very long long time. I would rather have a life of ups and downs than forever bask in the glory of that sadistic god. NO THANKS.

 

No worry. I got an answer for you. God works in mysterious ways. no matter what, remember god still loves you. oh please, I am not a kid who will buy into sweet stories. If you have enough respect for your brain, try to read up more and think critically. Inform yourself on histories of middle east and europe. 

Gather enough courage to read books such as 'The end of faith' and 'God delusion'. Give yourself a real treat, not some scribbling ancient cavemen wrote down two thousands years ago.

 

These are all good questions.

Remember, religion is sustained by emotions.  And emotions are not rational.

[Salt&Pepper]

After reading thru' the above comments, I would like to just share what was taught to me when I practice Buddhism:

 

1. 依法不依人 follow the Buddha's teachings, practice and verify yourself if what he taught is true. Do not blindly follow the teachers including the Buddha himself.

 

2. See your "enemies" as your teachers instead and reflect if you suffer the same fundamental flaws they have and change for the better. Develop compassion (not love) for them.

 

3. Our own salvation do not depend on "God" but within ourselves. There is no such thing as "works in mysterious ways". It's all about karma.

 

4. The Buddha teaches and urges us to attain complete and perfect wisdom. Buddhists who understand this is sustained by wisdom they gained, not emotions.

 

I do not have all the answers, but I hope these will help in limited ways it can. Namo Amitabha.

[Guest Guest]

 

[Guest Guest]

释昭慧 in the first video is a very controversial monk in Taiwan. 

 

[lovehandle]

in  a way, religion counts

 

 

[lovehandle]

On ‎18‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 0:26 PM, Salt&Pepper said:

After reading thru' the above comments, I would like to just share what was taught to me when I practice Buddhism:

 

1. 依法不依人 follow the Buddha's teachings, practice and verify yourself if what he taught is true. Do not blindly follow the teachers including the Buddha himself.

 

2. See your "enemies" as your teachers instead and reflect if you suffer the same fundamental flaws they have and change for the better. Develop compassion (not love) for them.

 

3. Our own salvation do not depend on "God" but within ourselves. There is no such thing as "works in mysterious ways". It's all about karma.

 

4. The Buddha teaches and urges us to attain complete and perfect wisdom. Buddhists who understand this is sustained by wisdom they gained, not emotions.

 

I do not have all the answers, but I hope these will help in limited ways it can. Namo Amitabha.

so profound woh, but it is a fact!

[Sibelius]

On 18/04/2017 at 0:26 PM, Salt&Pepper said:

After reading thru' the above comments, I would like to just share what was taught to me when I practice Buddhism:

 

1. 依法不依人 follow the Buddha's teachings, practice and verify yourself if what he taught is true. Do not blindly follow the teachers including the Buddha himself.

 

2. See your "enemies" as your teachers instead and reflect if you suffer the same fundamental flaws they have and change for the better. Develop compassion (not love) for them.

 

3. Our own salvation do not depend on "God" but within ourselves. There is no such thing as "works in mysterious ways". It's all about karma.

 

4. The Buddha teaches and urges us to attain complete and perfect wisdom. Buddhists who understand this is sustained by wisdom they gained, not emotions.

 

I do not have all the answers, but I hope these will help in limited ways it can. Namo Amitabha.

Well said! Agree with all the above points!

[fab]

On 18/04/2017 at 0:26 PM, Salt&Pepper said:

After reading thru' the above comments, I would like to just share what was taught to me when I practice Buddhism:

 

1. 依法不依人 follow the Buddha's teachings, practice and verify yourself if what he taught is true. Do not blindly follow the teachers including the Buddha himself.

 

2. See your "enemies" as your teachers instead and reflect if you suffer the same fundamental flaws they have and change for the better. Develop compassion (not love) for them.

 

3. Our own salvation do not depend on "God" but within ourselves. There is no such thing as "works in mysterious ways". It's all about karma.

 

4. The Buddha teaches and urges us to attain complete and perfect wisdom. Buddhists who understand this is sustained by wisdom they gained, not emotions.

 

I do not have all the answers, but I hope these will help in limited ways it can. Namo Amitabha.

 

U said almost all.

 

Just to add on, the dharma encourages us to discern n not follow blindly any teaching or to worship anyone, including shikamuni. Blind faith is dangerous.

 

Basically everything happens for karmic reasons. There's no such thing as blessings, not even from any buddha or bodhisattva. Everyone is self reliant through his own deeds. 

 

3 things that we must develop r wisdom, compassion n the path.

 

And 3 things we must abandon r the 3 poisons.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2017 by fab

[lovehandle]

another perspective, though not related to Buddhism
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