SIM ENLISTS ANTI-LGBT CHURCH TO HELP STUDENTS WITH "HOMOSEXUALITY ISSUES"

[Guest outraged]

SIM ENLISTS ANTI-LGBT CHURCH TO HELP STUDENTS WITH "HOMOSEXUALITY ISSUES"

Submitted by farhan on Wed, 12/04/2017 - 10:16am

Attention please! I just saw this on SIM University's counselling page while thumbing through resources available for LGBTQ+ teens for my project.

The church listed in SIM's counselling resources section includes one organization named "Choices" to supposedly help with "homosexuality issues". The shocking part is when you click on their website and you read this:

"Choices was established in 1991 to help people recover their God-intended sexual identity. Our clients include homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, transsexuals, and heterosexuals who are unhappy with their sexual choices or lifestyle."

 

Isn't this the kind of sex conversion therapy that is being banned all over the United States? How can SIM even allow this to be listed as a form of counselling!?

To make things worse, I found out that Choices is led by a local church by the name of Church of Our Saviour. This is the same church that opposed strongly to repealing S377A because of its bigoted views. The church even appears in Wikipedia for its role in opposing the repeal:

"In addition, Senior Pastor Derek Hong gave various sermons on the issue. In a sermon in August 2007, titled "God's Church and Homosexuality," Hong insisted on the existence of an agenda by gay activists. This agenda allegedly seeks to ultimately silence all Ex-Gay groups, eradicate anti-homosexuality groups such as churches, strive for legalising of same-sex marriages, and strive to promote homosexuality as a viable lifestyle. Hong, however, did not offer any concrete evidence or proof of his accusations.[6]

An email has also surfaced, allegedly claiming that Hong has circulated an email in April 2007, encouraging acquaintances to mobilise, influence public opinion, and lobby the government.[7] The email recommends a suggested format of writing a protest and also the destination to submit the protest to, namely the Singaporean government feedback website at reach.gov.sg. While there is no evidence that Hong was indeed the author of the email, and Hong himself has issued no statement regarding it, an examination of the forum topics at reach.gov.sg reveals a large number of postings adopting exactly the recommended format."

I think LGBTQ+ groups should demand an explanation from SIM about its stance towards homosexuals. I will be sending my complaint to them soon.

Leslie


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[lonely57]

thats disappointing since im from there.. but there will always be these kind of ppl. if they want to be anti this anti that let them. if we just ignore them, it doesnt matter how much they preach since it will be be pointless. let them waste their time. 

[Guest LGBT]

SIM standing as thinking school is now casted into a shadow of questionable credibility.

[Guest Bonfire]

1 hour ago, Guest LGBT said:

SIM standing as thinking school is now casted into a shadow of questionable credibility.

Indeed. Many reputable universities around the world, including NUS, take an inclusive approach to support their LGBTQ+ students by creating groups, hosting activities, and making spaces for them to be themselves.

 

Regrettably, SIM does the opposite, pushing away prospective students in a highly competitive region.

[Guest Diversity]

I don't see anything wrong with that.  If the person is of that religion, then they should be given a chance to have counseling within the religion as well.

[gstc82]

4 hours ago, lonely57 said:

thats disappointing since im from there.. but there will always be these kind of ppl. if they want to be anti this anti that let them. if we just ignore them, it doesnt matter how much they preach since it will be be pointless. let them waste their time. 

Since you were from SIM, take this issue with your school.

[Guest Confuse]

OP is being overly dramatic, wanting to stir up a reaction. 

 

they want to host such event then host la. It's just like another workshop. 

 

Not as if hosting the event means contributing hate to society

 

I mean people are adults and they can think for themselves to know what is right or wrong. If they don't feel the need to go the event will be a flop. Not as if it's part of a mandatory session for all students to attend, or giving this talk to adolescent that will be easily convinced. 

 

[doncoin]

Well conversion therapies have been debunked by the scientific community as well as professional groups for causing more harm than good. In the US, a number of states have also outlawed conversion therapies. 

 

There should be zero-tolerance for such hate groups to be present. Conversion therapy does not teach you to embrace who you are as a person. it internalises self-hatred  

[Guest anti-stupidity]

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[Guest SIMSTUDENT]

Ermmm... It wasn't on the school webpage. I'm doubting the person who posted this. You guys can check the web itself. https://project1095.simge.edu.sg/student-care/counseling/

[Guest anti-stupidity]

It seems that the "conversion groups" are the ones that have an agenda instead of lgbts; brainwashing one bochup citizens at a time.

[RaMe7]

Hmm...when I checked out the sources they gave - essentially the SIM counselling website Choices, the programme sponsored by Church of Our Saviour, does not feature on the page at all. It is quite possible someone on that AllSingaporeStuff site has a vendetta either against that church, SIM, or even both institutions. 

 

Here is the proof:-

 

https://project1095.simge.edu.sg/student-care/counseling/

 

While "Choices" is real:-

 

http://www.coos.org.sg/church-life/choices/

 

it does not however, have any place on the SIM counselling links section.

 

By the way, it is entirely possible the original poster, "Guest Outraged" could have some ties to that website and could be deliberately "marketing" for that website by posting here to gain viewership numbers and trust for the site, "AllSingaporeStuff," possibly with the intention of impressing upon the BW community that this website was representing the LGBT community in the local news public sphere. The title was typed in all caps and even the nickname selected - "Guest Outraged" seems to be trying to goad the very same 'outrage' out of the BW community.

Edited April 13, 2017 by RaMe7

[Guest Creestean Dicks]

Since day one, christians had all along wanted to go to war with gays. They will never be tired of this, so 放马过来! Wretched bunch of cowards! 

[Guest Creestean Dicks]

They actually endorsed that debunked ancient dinosaur - choices! Thankfully now we can confirm once and for all sim uni admin staffs are very the low standard one!

[Lemonjuice]

Well, if you see homosexuality as non-issue then don't attend. 

 

 

[Guest Doh]

Why r so many of u believing a website that is well known for faking news?

 

Or r u really such stupid fools??

[jerseyboys]

On 4/12/2017 at 7:06 PM, Guest outraged said:

SIM ENLISTS ANTI-LGBT CHURCH TO HELP STUDENTS WITH "HOMOSEXUALITY ISSUES"

Submitted by farhan on Wed, 12/04/2017 - 10:16am

Attention please! I just saw this on SIM University's counselling page while thumbing through resources available for LGBTQ+ teens for my project.

The church listed in SIM's counselling resources section includes one organization named "Choices" to supposedly help with "homosexuality issues". The shocking part is when you click on their website and you read this:

"Choices was established in 1991 to help people recover their God-intended sexual identity. Our clients include homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, transsexuals, and heterosexuals who are unhappy with their sexual choices or lifestyle."

 

Isn't this the kind of sex conversion therapy that is being banned all over the United States? How can SIM even allow this to be listed as a form of counselling!?

To make things worse, I found out that Choices is led by a local church by the name of Church of Our Saviour. This is the same church that opposed strongly to repealing S377A because of its bigoted views. The church even appears in Wikipedia for its role in opposing the repeal:

"In addition, Senior Pastor Derek Hong gave various sermons on the issue. In a sermon in August 2007, titled "God's Church and Homosexuality," Hong insisted on the existence of an agenda by gay activists. This agenda allegedly seeks to ultimately silence all Ex-Gay groups, eradicate anti-homosexuality groups such as churches, strive for legalising of same-sex marriages, and strive to promote homosexuality as a viable lifestyle. Hong, however, did not offer any concrete evidence or proof of his accusations.[6]

An email has also surfaced, allegedly claiming that Hong has circulated an email in April 2007, encouraging acquaintances to mobilise, influence public opinion, and lobby the government.[7] The email recommends a suggested format of writing a protest and also the destination to submit the protest to, namely the Singaporean government feedback website at reach.gov.sg. While there is no evidence that Hong was indeed the author of the email, and Hong himself has issued no statement regarding it, an examination of the forum topics at reach.gov.sg reveals a large number of postings adopting exactly the recommended format."

I think LGBTQ+ groups should demand an explanation from SIM about its stance towards homosexuals. I will be sending my complaint to them soon.

Leslie


- More at AllSingaporeStuff.com https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/sim-enlists-anti-lgbt-church-help-students-homosexuality-issues
FB: http://fb.com/allsgstuff

dear @Guest Outraged...you have ever right to be angry...but maybe SIM isn't the one who is Bigot...
                                                                       
i believe it is THE SIM MANAGEMENT who is calling the shots...only to please the Gahmen...welcome to this big show-and-tell-stage where institutions of higher learning have moral obligations to display to parents of SIM students...that we are against the LGBT movement...
                                                             
i feel very very sad for SIM, why? while they are pushing this agenda on their students OVERTLY...many sexual encounters btw gay men continue to happen on campus COVERTLY...no offence to any SIM students reading this...i mean no harm, Thx =)

[Guest concern]

lucifer will come to this.may god changed how lucifer was how you think it used to be.