What Are Gays Most Worrying Problem about growing old? + Anxiety of growing old (compiled)

[doncoin]

58 minutes ago, Guest Fluffy said:

I am surprised that many Singaporeans are shy to make youtube video.  Americans like to make youtube video to past time, showing the world the simpliest of activities in their life and than derived joys from reading encouraging comments from around the world.   I am one of them who is shy.  Otherwise, I will make videos how I spend my life, show the world my capabilities, collections and hobbies.  Who knows, may get some income if I ask people to buy me coffee for doing a video.  What do you think?

 

When you put yourself and your life online for the world to see, you will get your share of people who love and support your work and who you are, but you will also have your share of haters and negative people. Just be aware of that. 

[Guest - TG]

On 9/3/2017 at 6:13 PM, Guest Scared said:

And no longer believe in love. Usually in their 30's and mostly in their 40's all of them single. They loiter everywhere, from this forums, to infamous fuck saunas, to gay apps. It is a sad predicament, as you can tell from their eyes they have lost all hope and have embrace the sad lonely live of singlehood. They look used and helpless, as they succumb to their horniness for NSA fun, some even going to public toilets. Anyone else in their 20's worry about going to this same sad dark route?

 

You describe it so well, its almost like you are 40 already.

I am in mid 30s, still single, usually alone, and only sometimes lonely. Its ok I could handle all that.

Don't think it only happens to only a few strange men. The situation is more common than you think. It happens to anyone who ages. No matter if you are cute and young once, or popular in the clubs etc. One day you too will hit 30s, 40s.

Good if you have a partner. If you don't at least establish yourself in a good way.

I loiter around sometimes. No longer go saunas because the crowd is seldom up to my standard, and gay apps, yes still flick around to waste some time.

I choose to be single even though there are many younger guys interested in me. I have my achievements, and my youthful looks.

 

Why? I gotta admit I haven't grown mature enough to give up on having my "ideal" partner.

Good that you are thinking ahead. I wish you well.

[Guest DISMAY]

9 hours ago, doncoin said:

 

When you put yourself and your life online for the world to see, you will get your share of people who love and support your work and who you are, but you will also have your share of haters and negative people. Just be aware of that. 

Online support or hate posts are natural eco-system.  The hate comments will be countered by supportive comments, you don't have to be bothered with it.   I think think it is manageable online as compare to surrounding people hating you outright in your face or even throw things at you. I am a regular night stroller and often met with anti-gay people from all walks of life spitting in front of your feet to show their (mostly indians and women) dismay with a gay person and their intent is to make you depress and make them happy with what they did to you.    I am sure this will happen to any lonely elderly guy in future.

[LeanMature]

9 hours ago, Guest - TG said:

 

You describe it so well, its almost like you are 40 already.

I am in mid 30s, still single, usually alone, and only sometimes lonely. Its ok I could handle all that.

Don't think it only happens to only a few strange men. The situation is more common than you think. It happens to anyone who ages. No matter if you are cute and young once, or popular in the clubs etc. One day you too will hit 30s, 40s.

Good if you have a partner. If you don't at least establish yourself in a good way.

I loiter around sometimes. No longer go saunas because the crowd is seldom up to my standard, and gay apps, yes still flick around to waste some time.

I choose to be single even though there are many younger guys interested in me. I have my achievements, and my youthful looks.

 

Why? I gotta admit I haven't grown mature enough to give up on having my "ideal" partner.

Good that you are thinking ahead. I wish you well.

 

It's about time.  Don't wait too long. 

[Guest Old mariner]

On 9/7/2017 at 5:54 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

56 is not an age to do "lighter forms" of exercise.

Instead, it is an age to work up to heavy weight lifting to build up and preserve a good body  throughout old age.

Yes, agreed. At our age, we put on weight whether we like it or not, so do heavy exercises and get beefy like a daddy type would be expected to look.

 

I know I attract lots of daddy fetish youngsters because of my beefy built. But sometimes I forgot how beefy I'm compared to them. However, I'm fully aware that it's only a fetish that will pass easily since they treat us like sex objects only. So I don't want anything to do with someone who only wanted a "daddy" and not just for me as I'm a person with a brain.

 

Once this sweet little guy looked at me with those yearning eyes all day. Eventually I relented and went into a room with him. Oh bro, was he happy or what to touch me totally naked. In the full bed mirror, I was so huge compared to his puny self. I laid down on the bed and let him cuddle on top of me, in the mirror was like daddy cuddling little son that made him so happy.

 

But seriously, I'm versatile and do not plan on having anal sex with him. Still his wandering fingers eventually fondled my balls and slipped into my back hole. That's okay by me, after all I've been fucked just now in a tit for tat exchange with a hot guy. Oh bro, that innocent looking little guy suddenly turned potty mouthed at my loose ass. Poof!  end illusion of innocence and our touching.

[Guest Guest]

Wat happen when a gay turn 80 ur old. Who have him to depend on.  My gay friend now trying to bribe his nephew  and niece hoping one day they can take care of him when he grow old.  U think it will happen. I suppose  the new generation have their own burden.They will just dump u at void deck or nursing home hoping the gov will look after u when u are sick. 

[Guest Practical]

Like the nephews  and nieces don't have their own parents to take care of, even if not you think they will take care of their gauncle? Unless if you have a whole shit load of money that they can inherit then there may be some hope.

[Guest guest]

your life expectancy is pre determined , not everyone will live to be 80 years and be healthy and spritely and good quality of life.

 

you may get sick and die before 40 years, 50 years ,60 or 70 years old.

 

or get killed by killer litter, or choke on fishball and die tomorrow,

 

dont think about 80s, just fuck and be happy, aim for the wildest orgasm, 

 

at least die with a smile and balls drained.

[Guest What do you think?]

42 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Wat happen when a gay turn 80 ur old. Who have him to depend on.  My gay friend now trying to bribe his nephew  and niece hoping one day they can take care of him when he grow old.  U think it will happen. I suppose  the new generation have their own burden.They will just dump u at void deck or nursing home hoping the gov will look after u when u are sick. 

By the time you turn 80, Singapore population will be about 50/50 around those age.  I think the garment will be sending a ship to ferry those expired folks to Pulau something something.  It will be called PULAU-80 and the old folks will have to think of their survival from planting their own foods to digging their own hole.   

[oysteregg88]

自己顾自己。

[Guest guest]

29 minutes ago, oysteregg88 said:

自己顾自己。

 

what if 自己顾不了自己了，

 

那要不要 把 自己 推到

脏路边了 吗?

[Guest guest]

35 minutes ago, oysteregg88 said:

自己顾自己。

 

what if 自己顾不了自己了，

 

那要不要 把 自己 推到

脏路边了 吗?

[oysteregg88]

15 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

 

what if 自己顾不了自己了，

 

那要不要 把 自己 推到

脏路边了 吗?

等死咯。。。。哈哈 。。。

[Lemonjuice]

It is a legit concern. Therefore, we should plan retirement as early as mid 20s. I am a believer of “you reap what you sow.” Blessing comes in different form and what the future holds no one will know. We live the best life everyday with a positive attitude.

 

Btw, not all heterosexual couple can succesfully raise their children to be financially independent from them. More and more adult children love at home and become a burden rather than a support to them.

 

such is life

[Ironrod]

I think if u have been a kind and nice person throughout your life. All those good seeds will take fruition in your time of need. There is no need to bribe or worry.

 

Worrying does nothing.

 

船到桥头自然直

[Guest Guest]

Have anyone considered the fact that there are just too many people on this planet.

 

we gay s should do everyone a great favour and bump our selves off  when you think you had enough of living like around 67 ish and your health is failing.

I

have the autonomy to decide when to go in dignity and pain less ness.

 

We we are doing earth a great favour to return to earth as natural fertilisers 

 

[Steve5380]

Like married couples who grow old together and remain independent taking care of each other,

we gays when old can find companions, share resources and remain independent.

Hopefully at that age we have control over the sharp edges of our personality to get along easily,

without issues of "fidelity", selfishness.

Two open minded old men who are friends can have an open relationship

that has all the elements to be stable and long lasting.

[IkuTube]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Wat happen when a gay turn 80 ur old. Who have him to depend on.  My gay friend now trying to bribe his nephew  and niece hoping one day they can take care of him when he grow old.  U think it will happen. I suppose  the new generation have their own burden.They will just dump u at void deck or nursing home hoping the gov will look after u when u are sick. 

 

 

Indeed, a very legit concern (as quoted from @Lemonjuice).  Personally, I do think it is a good topic to ponder.  A good wake-up question to get prepared.

 

The question one should ask himself is, how well are we prepared to age alone?  Growing older is a sure thing and each one of us is at risk of getting isolated.  Each one of us could outlive our partner, our good friends, our family members.

 

Surely, there are ways to prepare to live our old age as independently as possible.  It can be a dreadful thought but to have a good plan helps.

 

 

[Guest Fatty]

Get a young bf so next time he will take care of you when you are sick and immobile 

[Guest Thin]

2 minutes ago, Guest Fatty said:

Get a young bf so next time he will take care of you when you are sick and immobile 

 

And what happen he kaput before you from the stress of taking care when you are sick and immobile?  Still got strength to find another young bf then?

 

 

[Guest 老阿伯]

Maybe we should have "Friend an Uncle" Group.

It's not sexual or charity. Just to keep in touch and helping to check on the conditions of the older gays.

[Pubic01]

Be self reliant. No one will care. It is the hard truth. 

[Guest BobbyBoy]

Can consider being self sufficient and collect carton boxes or clean tables at hawker centres. Many elderly folks are doing that now.

[snowball]

new generation most of them don't even take care of their parents and you expect them to take care of you? Unless you are fucking rich and they will pamper you for the seek of money, else, you better be independent 

[Pubic01]

11 minutes ago, Guest BobbyBoy said:

Can consider being self sufficient and collect carton boxes or clean tables at hawker centres. Many elderly folks are doing that now.

I think by the time I’m aged, there be no more Hawker centres. Hawker culture sure gone by then. Tables .. all auto-disinfected by robots and intelligent-systems. They won’t need old folks to do such things in future. Carton boxes likely found in museums .. lol

[Guest TheEnd]

All else fail can assault someone and get jailed for free lodging, food and shelter at changi. We also have a lot of very tall buildings.

[Guest Khartoi]

Solution --> go Thailand before 40yo --> change sex --> come back --> find rich old uncle --> buy him insurance --> play his dick every hour --> he dies of exhaustion --> u inherit millions to employ full time nurses to take care of u until u die.

[Guest Guest]

What’s so topical about a question that has been considered again and again by generations of bachelors, spinsters, childless widowers and widows? The answer is simple, financial planning and hired help.

[Steve5380]

20 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

What’s so topical about a question that has been considered again and again by generations of bachelors, spinsters, childless widowers and widows? The answer is simple, financial planning and hired help.

 

That's true.  But even having money,  it is nice to have the companionship of a partner and share a sense of self sufficiency.  Many seniors get depressed when they lose their independence and are subjected to the care (and often will) of strange caregivers.  I am not so far from diminishing capability, and my hope is that technology will become a big help to seniors:  self driving cars (this is a big plus),  intelligent appliances,  programs that take care of banking, investing,  and the already existence of places to buy everything online and have it delivered.  Adding to this a great variety of modern entertainment (maybe realistic robotic lovers, adaptive pornography?),  I can hope to remain self sufficient until my last breath.

[kjboy]

Even u have son or daughter, u can't 100% confirm they will take care of you.

So u keep your body healthy and be independent. Life is yours. You are the one to be responsible, not others.

Edited December 27, 2018 by kjboy

[Guest Old Age Me]

When old age comes, I hope I will have a small group of friends to go out with. I hope the younger generation will be open minded to my older ways and not detest me for my slow reaction or poor motor skills. I hope I still can bring happiness to others.

 

When old age comes, I hope I don't have to worry about my finances. But if I do, I hope there will be someone whom I can turn to.

[Guest Guest]

7 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

What’s so topical about a question that has been considered again and again by generations of bachelors, spinsters, childless widowers and widows? The answer is simple, financial planning and hired help.

Forgot, also keep working out mind and body to try and be in the fittest state one can be at any age.

[Guest InBangkok]

It is an unfortunate fact of life that no amount of planning can ensure a happy and healthy old age.

 

Example 1

A good friend of mine lived for about 20 years in Hong Kong. As health insurance premiums leapt up after 55, he decided he could no longer afford it. But he had been going to the gym regularly for many years. He decided that this would keep him healthy. He died of a stroke aged 64.

 

Example 2

Another friend had plenty of savings and lived in a nice house in the UK. He started losing his short-term memory. He was diagnosed with dementia at 62. This developed into Alzheimer's and he died after four years after his memory had slowly been erased. At least he had the benefit of the UK's National Health Service and his finances were not ruined.

 

I raise these examples only to illustrate that nothing we do can ensure we live to a ripe old age. If your country will not look after you when you have a chronic or terminal illness, then you have to ensure that you have a large amount of savings and a good medical insurance policy. One more thing to remember. When you take out a medical policy in your 20s or 30s, the premiums are low and affordable. So it is important that you check the insurer's future premiums. It is normal for premiums to increase gradually over the years, and medical insurance goes up by more than the normal rate of inflation. But at 55 you will usually be in for quite a big jump - and then another at 60, another at 65 and another at 70. I had a great worldwide policy which cost me around US$2,000. As expected it increased by a little more than inflation. Then I looked at future premiums. Had I stayed with that company, the premium when I reached 70 would have been around $15,000 - and that is before the regular annual increases over more than 15 years. So it could have been nearer $20,000. I knew I was overinsured, and so switched to a much cheaper policy that reduced the range of benefits but still suited my lifestyle. 

 

Some form of medical insurance is vital. Without it, not only might you end up financially ruined but your partner may find it very difficult to look after you.

 

 

[LeanMature]

The answer - Dr M. $

[zyjd]

being estranged from my family I have accepted the fact that I will most probably die alone. If I have enough money when I retire maybe I'll book myself into a retirement village, otherwise being alone isn't that bad too (if basic needs like food, water, and shelter can still be met).

 

I think I have learnt to accept the fact that death is inevitable, and try to focus on living a full life before it. If I die surrounded by friends, that's a bonus, if alone at home and no one finds my decomposing body till several weeks later then oh well - I'll be too dead to care anyway. Haha!

[fab]

When there's no expectation there's no disappointment.

[auscent]

Lol. Im prepared to go once last rites are settled - death of last parent. My nephews will be 20+ by then. 

 

Not joking. I always like Frodo in LOTR where once his last mission is done, he sails to the west. I need to make space for others.

[Guest So ya]

On 12/26/2018 at 7:05 PM, Guest Guest said:

Wat happen when a gay turn 80 ur old. Who have him to depend on.  My gay friend now trying to bribe his nephew  and niece hoping one day they can take care of him when he grow old.  U think it will happen. I suppose  the new generation have their own burden.They will just dump u at void deck or nursing home hoping the gov will look after u when u are sick. 

My imaginery friend will take care of me.  He is very handsome and good looking.  I speak to him when I am bored and I can sense that he will look after me, protect me and see to my well-beings.  So ya, I am not lonely unlike many of you.

[lonelyglobe]

20 hours ago, Pubic01 said:

I think by the time I’m aged, there be no more Hawker centres. Hawker culture sure gone by then. Tables .. all auto-disinfected by robots and intelligent-systems. They won’t need old folks to do such things in future. Carton boxes likely found in museums .. lol

Thats why never clean table after u eat, so the old ones still have a job....still can sell tissue paper but must be creative because there will be so much competition.

[lonelyglobe]

6 hours ago, zyjd said:

being estranged from my family I have accepted the fact that I will most probably die alone. If I have enough money when I retire maybe I'll book myself into a retirement village, otherwise being alone isn't that bad too (if basic needs like food, water, and shelter can still be met).

 

I think I have learnt to accept the fact that death is inevitable, and try to focus on living a full life before it. If I die surrounded by friends, that's a bonus, if alone at home and no one finds my decomposing body till several weeks later then oh well - I'll be too dead to care anyway. Haha!

U r not alone....suppose we estimate only 15% of gay population are attached, meaning a good 85% will be left alone to take care of ourself or check into a old folks home. Start looking out for regional affordable old folks home. If the doctor can estimate say if u still have 5 years the most, then plan your financial accordingly and get a young boy from the region to look after u and probably left behind some money for him.

[lonelyglobe]

20 hours ago, Guest TheEnd said:

All else fail can assault someone and get jailed for free lodging, food and shelter at changi. We also have a lot of very tall buildings.

Umm...similar idea but better to steal money, if successful good, not successful u get free lodging, food, medical care and lots of companions.

[fab]

Don't always think of taking.

 

Start giving.

[Guest Puppy Boy]

2 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

If the doctor can estimate say if u still have 5 years the most, then plan your financial accordingly and get a young boy from the region to look after u and probably left behind some money for him.

The young boy won't have 5 years to get the money.  He will put something into your food and within a day, he gets his money.   Best is to get a puppy

[Steve5380]

9 hours ago, zyjd said:

being estranged from my family I have accepted the fact that I will most probably die alone. If I have enough money when I retire maybe I'll book myself into a retirement village, otherwise being alone isn't that bad too (if basic needs like food, water, and shelter can still be met).

 

 

Anyway, family is not the best recourse for company and support in old age.  This "family" will be all younger people who have their own lives to care for.  As we age, there are fewer reasons to stay in a closet and it becomes easier to join the gay community.  At any time we are not the only old gays, and it should not be so difficult to find a companion with common interests and acceptable life style.  There are places that are friendly to retired LGBTs.  In the US many cities have larger populations of retired LGBTs.  I don't know about Singapore, but you could retire to a nearby country that is more gay friendly and has lower cost of living.

[Guest Dog’s Life]

1 hour ago, Guest Puppy Boy said:

The young boy won't have 5 years to get the money.  He will put something into your food and within a day, he gets his money.   Best is to get a puppy

 

Still have to take care of puppy, worse if you stroke out half alive half dead lying on the floor, your doggy can’t get help and will probably chew’s you up alive cos it’s hangry - balls first.

[Guest TheEnd]

3 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Umm...similar idea but better to steal money, if successful good, not successful u get free lodging, food, medical care and lots of companions.

 

Old oreidi hard to run leh, plus so many cctv in SG now, and so many kaypoh-camera-ready-to-shame-people vigilantes. And with companions maybe can get lucky with sex oso.

[Guest Fit Uncle]

On 12/26/2018 at 7:51 PM, Guest guest said:

your life expectancy is pre determined , not everyone will live to be 80 years and be healthy and spritely and good quality of life.

 

you may get sick and die before 40 years, 50 years ,60 or 70 years old.

 

or get killed by killer litter, or choke on fishball and die tomorrow,

 

dont think about 80s, just fuck and be happy, aim for the wildest orgasm, 

 

at least die with a smile and balls drained.

Typical fatalistic negativities of gays. 

Just exercise, eat well and your brain will reward you with delicious positive feelings of well being. These you can control, whatever you can't, don't sweat over them or let them control you instead.

加肌肉。

[Guest Guest]

On 12/27/2018 at 1:13 PM, LeanMature said:

The answer - Dr M. $

Agree Tun M is a great leader. Malaysians are much wiser than singaporeans. I am sure Tun will take care of the aged there.

[Guest Classic Music]

On 12/26/2018 at 9:47 PM, Ironrod said:

I think if u have been a kind and nice person throughout your life. All those good seeds will take fruition in your time of need. There is no need to bribe or worry.

 

Worrying does nothing.

 

船到桥头自然直

Sounds very ideal.  In reality and in the name of all practicality  is that the case?

[Pubic01]

On 12/28/2018 at 2:50 PM, Guest Guest said:

Agree Tun M is a great leader. Malaysians are much wiser than singaporeans. I am sure Tun will take care of the aged there.

Let’s be honest.. there’re both wise & silly folks in every single country. Tun is undoubtedly aged himself .. he is already 93. What makes you so sure that Tun will outlive everyone (and for that matter, be in absolute good health) to care for the other aged? Good public health care, benefits & policies aren’t free. These require strong reserves, economy, and very importantly, sound planning ahead of time. (Time, resourcefulness and stability are crucial traits, when building reserves and assets). Tun has enough problems to deal with already at hand. I doubt he can care much (or do much) for the aged given the current national predicaments. Just my views.

Edited December 29, 2018 by Pubic01